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[EXCLUSIVE] "Jason Gillespie and Gary Kirsten are two excellent coaches, Pakistan missed a bit of a trick": Geoff Lawson

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In this exclusive interview, former Pakistan head coach Geoff Lawson shares his expert insights on the state of Pakistan cricket, drawing from his experience as an international player, coach, and current New South Wales selector. He reflects on Pakistan's vast talent pool, the systemic challenges hindering its development, the crucial role of administration, and offers a frank comparison with the Australian system — and much more.

Key Revelations include:

* Pakistan's Talent Reality: "The natural talent has always been there in Pakistan… It's just how you continue to develop it." – Lawson emphasizes that while the country remains a goldmine of raw skill, the missing link is a consistent, long-term pathway to refine that potential into world-class performance.

* Systemic Critique: "They churn through players a little bit too quickly." – A blunt assessment of the impatience at the national level, where a lack of job security for players often leads to a "revolving door" selection policy that hinders individual growth.

* Coaching Carousel: "They're two excellent coaches… Pakistan missed a bit of a trick." – Addressing the swift exits of Gary Kirsten and Jason Gillespie, Lawson suggests that letting go of such high-caliber expertise so soon was a significant strategic error.

* The Australian Model: "We don't second-guess them. We give them the opportunity to express how good they are." – Explaining the selector's philosophy of backing players, Lawson highlights how trust and stability allow athletes to play with freedom rather than fear of being dropped.
* The Administration's Role: "I was very lucky… We had a great administration." – Drawing from his own tenure as Pakistan's coach, he underscores that on-field success is often a byproduct of stable, cricket-savvy leadership behind the scenes.

* On Shaheen Afridi: "He's a great character… he's generally got a smile on his face." – Praising the star pacer’s infectious attitude and professional development, Lawson views Shaheen as a vital figurehead for the future of Pakistan cricket.

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Gary specifically was a big miss tbh.... India did good under his coaching, but yeah, it is not like every team is going to adjust under him but PCB did mess things up fast.
 
Yeah I think that’s the main problem we churn through players too quickly with little job security. So either players get inconsistent sporadic chances which increases likelihood of failing. Or they try to simply survive in the team rather than playing with confidence and going for it.

Our domestic may not be perfect. But we have to utilise it or we have nothing. Players should work hard to excel in domestic in order to earn that international chance. But once they get international chances, they should have quite a long settled run. As well as opportunities to earn back a callback if they are dropped through domestic and working on their game.

If we simply just ignore domestic and do eye test, it just leads to us disregarding one player for the next one. And if cricketers fail in their international chances, they often think their career is over, they won’t get repicked no matter how well they perform in domestic.
 
Gillespie to be honest looked out of his depth and was more in awe of the star players. Playing 4 seamers at home against Bangladesh and being whitewashed at home against Bangladesh in test cricket was going to terminate most coaches positions
 
Gillespie to be honest looked out of his depth and was more in awe of the star players. Playing 4 seamers at home against Bangladesh and being whitewashed at home against Bangladesh in test cricket was going to terminate most coaches positions
Agree.
 
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