"F*** you, mate. We're going to beat ya," Shane Warne's response to Saleem Malik's bribe offer

[MenInG]

"F*** you, mate. We're going to beat ya," Shane Warne's response to Saleem Malik's bribe offer

Shane Warne's documentary coming up soon - should be interesting

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Australian cricket legend Shane Warne has revealed he was once offered $276,000 to deliberately bowl poorly when touring Pakistan - but he sensationally refused the bribe.

In Warne's new documentary, Shane, the champion leg-spinner, 52, recalled how the night before day five of a 1994 Test he was summoned to the room of Pakistan captain Saleem Malik.

The match was evenly poised in Karachi, with the hosts requiring 160 runs to win while Australia needed seven wickets on a turning pitch.

After arriving at Malik's hotel room, Warne sat down and was stunned to hear what the disgraced skipper had to say.

'He (Mailk) goes 'Well we can't lose... you don't understand what happens when we lose in Pakistan,' Warne said.

'Our houses will get burnt down, our family's houses will get burnt down'.

Warne then claims Malik offered himself and fellow Aussie spinner Tim May US$200,000 ($AUD276,000) to not take any wickets on day five.

'I don't really know what to say,' Warne said. 'I just sort of sat there, stunned. And then I go, 'F*** you, mate. We're going to beat ya'.'

Warne and Malik haven't spoken since, with the former golden boy of Pakistan cricket banned from the sport for life in 2000 due to match-fixing.

'When you talk about match-fixing now, people hope it doesn't go on,' Warne told news.com.au.

'Back in that time, 30 years ago, there was no talk about it. 'When he (Malik) offered me that, it was a bit like, 'What the hell?' I was blown away, I didn't know anything about it.

'It was a significant amount of money.'

At the time, Warne's annual cricket salary was between $25,000 and $30,000.

Soon after his bombshell meeting with Mailk, Warne then spoke with May, captain Mark Taylor and national coach Bob Simpson, who informed match referee John Reid.

Warne was enraged when Pakistan ended up winning the Test by one wicket thanks to a heroic stand between Inzamam-ul-Haq and No. 11 Mushtaq Ahmed.

The pair combined for an unbeaten 57-run partnership to steer Pakistan towards a remarkable one-wicket triumph.

At the post-game ceremony, Warne locked eyes with Malik, who 'sat there with this smug look on his face as if to say, you should have taken the cash.'

Post cricket has been kind to Warne, who was once engaged to actress Liz Hurley.

He is a commentator for Fox Sports, plays in poker tournaments across the world and even launched a highly successful alcohol gin label, SevenZeroEight.

Warne retired from Test cricket in 2007 with 708 wickets to his name and a reputation as one of the game's greatest ever players.

Shane is now screening for a limited time in Australian cinemas nationally, before being streamed on Amazon Prime Video from January 25.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Warne-opens-moment-offered-276-000-BRIBE.html

 

[Last Monetarist]

Funny thing is that if you see the highlights of that day's play on YouTube, there were some very questionable decisions by Mark Taylor on that last day which allowed Inzamam and Mushtaq to score those runs. Apart from Ian Healy's horrible missed stumping, there was a passage of play where Tim May was bowling at a number 11 without a slip in place even though Mushtaq was edging balls behind the wicket.

It's a good thing for some of those Australian cricketers that the series wasn't broadcast outside Pakistan.

 

[Sarwar89]

I think that was the last time Pakistan heroically honored and fought tooth and nail to win home test series. That was the end.

And our decline in Cricket started next year
Losing 1-2 to sri lanka at home under Raja.
1st home test series loss in 15 years.

Followed by 0-1 home test series losses against South Africa 1997, Australia 98, England 2000 and zimbabwe 1998 as well.

Our cricket team never recovered post 1994 onwards and coincidentally 1994 was the last time Pakistan won Major trophies in Hockey.
World cup + champions trophy.

 

[dildilpak]

Not that Warne can ever be confused with a saint, but no reason to doubt this tale - everybody & his grandmother knew what a corrupt guy Salim Malik was!

 

[Sarwar89]

I saw the match live in 1994,
It was Mark Taylor’s first series as captain. So obviously you cant expect him
To be accurate spot on all the times in tense situation as inexperienced captain.

 

[MenInG]

Funny thing is that if you see the highlights of that day's play on YouTube, there were some very questionable decisions by Mark Taylor on that last day which allowed Inzamam and Mushtaq to score those runs. Apart from Ian Healy's horrible missed stumping, there was a passage of play where Tim May was bowling at a number 11 without a slip in place even though Mushtaq was edging balls behind the wicket.

It's a good thing for some of those Australian cricketers that the series wasn't broadcast outside Pakistan.

I saw the match live in 1994,
It was Mark Taylor’s first series as captain. So obviously you cant expect him
To be accurate spot on all the times in tense situation as inexperienced captain.

No slip for Tim May against a number XI?

 

[Last Monetarist]

I saw the match live in 1994,
It was Mark Taylor’s first series as captain. So obviously you cant expect him
To be accurate spot on all the times in tense situation as inexperienced captain.

Mark Taylor was the best captain in the world and had extensive experience of leading New South Wales, even an amateur cricketer would think twice about not having a slip against a number XI batting under pressure on a turning wicket.

 

[Sarwar89]

No slip for Tim May against a number XI?

Mushtaq was actually defending very well, there was pressure of runs, initially when Mushtaq walked in there were 2 slips, Tubby took it off later on as ( he felt he needs to contain runs, obviously wrong decision).

 

[BreadPakoda]

Interesting. Wonder if the documentary also covers the time Warne and his mate M Waugh received bans for taking $5,000 and $4000 from a bookie to answer some “routine” questions.

 

[Robert]

That’s a lot of money offered to a young player feeling his way. Good for Warner for refusing, and I feel sad about Salim whom I always liked to watch bat.

 

[Varun]

The 1990s generation of the sub-continent was shady: Salim Malik, Azharuddin, Wasim Akram, Jadeja etc.

 

[Kaddy]

The 1990s generation of the sub-continent was shady: Salim Malik, Azharuddin, Wasim Akram, Jadeja etc.

Almost half of Pakistan team was involved in these activities and it wasn't limited to the sub continent players only.

 

[gazza619]

Ah some memories. I actually bunked school that day and went to the stadium to watch the game live. I had to leave at lunch break to ensure I reach home in good time so that my parents thought I was at school.

I still remember on the pre game nets that day Wasim & Waqar were bowling spin. I also remember Zahid Fazal was giving Mushtaq Ahmed some extra batting practice that day by giving throw downs. Most of the posters may not remember Zahid Fazal but there was a tiny bit of Zahid Fazal in the way in which Mushtaq batted as he used to try to copy him.

 

[Varun]

Soon after his bombshell meeting with Mailk, Warne then spoke with May, captain Mark Taylor and national coach Bob Simpson, who informed match referee John Reid.

What happened after this? The 1990s was the decade it was because nobody took any action when it was reported to them.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Well Saleem Malik got what he deserved.

Cricket was far from clean back then and there wasn't much scrutiny either. But Pakistan weren't the only side that had guys indulging in such activities. Warne isn't totally clean either.

 

[Markhor]

I think that was the last time Pakistan heroically honored and fought tooth and nail to win home test series. That was the end.

And our decline in Cricket started next year
Losing 1-2 to sri lanka at home under Raja.
1st home test series loss in 15 years.

Followed by 0-1 home test series losses against South Africa 1997, Australia 98, England 2000 and zimbabwe 1998 as well.

Our cricket team never recovered post 1994 onwards and coincidentally 1994 was the last time Pakistan won Major trophies in Hockey.
World cup + champions trophy.

Indeed, 1994 was the end of an era and our slide into mediocrity began thereafter.

Salim's behaviour was also shady during the Mandela Trophy a few months later. Despite batting second being more difficult in South Africa, especially under lights, Salim won the toss and fielded first in both finals.

There was an acriminous team meeting reported before the second final when the team supposedly agreed to bat first, while team manager Intikhab tried to get everyone to swear on the Quran they would not throw the match.

Salim dodged it by going out for the toss, and Pakistan lost the final convincingly...

 

[Mainul]

Funny thing is that if you see the highlights of that day's play on YouTube, there were some very questionable decisions by Mark Taylor on that last day which allowed Inzamam and Mushtaq to score those runs. Apart from Ian Healy's horrible missed stumping, there was a passage of play where Tim May was bowling at a number 11 without a slip in place even though Mushtaq was edging balls behind the wicket.

It's a good thing for some of those Australian cricketers that the series wasn't broadcast outside Pakistan.

I don't believe Warne or any Aussies. You are right. Their action on the field was suspicious. Selim Malik was the escapegoat but these Aussies should have been banned for life too

 

[Mainul]

I think that was the last time Pakistan heroically honored and fought tooth and nail to win home test series. That was the end.

And our decline in Cricket started next year
Losing 1-2 to sri lanka at home under Raja.
1st home test series loss in 15 years.

Followed by 0-1 home test series losses against South Africa 1997, Australia 98, England 2000 and zimbabwe 1998 as well.

Our cricket team never recovered post 1994 onwards and coincidentally 1994 was the last time Pakistan won Major trophies in Hockey.
World cup + champions trophy.

Pakista's biggest mistake, one Of the greatest mistake ever done was in Pakistani history was to take captaincy away from Salim Malik. He was one of the best captain, one of the best cricketing brain ever in Pakistan cricket history. And his performance as a batsman was awesome too when he was captain. Pakistan's performance got declined after Malik was axed as a captain. Then the captaincy was shared between some fixers.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Pakista's biggest mistake, one Of the greatest mistake ever done was in Pakistani history was to take captaincy away from Salim Malik. He was one of the best captain, one of the best cricketing brain ever in Pakistan cricket history. And his performance as a batsman was awesome too when he was captain. Pakistan's performance got declined after Malik was axed as a captain. Then the captaincy was shared between some fixers.

Mistake to take away captaincy from a fixer?

 

[Mainul]

Mistake to take away captaincy from a fixer?

He was axed as captain long before he was strongly alleged as a fixer. But what about those like Wasim, Waqar ? They were named in Abdul Qaium report but still was given captaincy though they were lot inferior as a captain to Malik .

 

[ElRaja]

He was axed as captain long before he was strongly alleged as a fixer. But what about those like Wasim, Waqar ? They were named in Abdul Qaium report but still was given captaincy though they were lot inferior as a captain to Malik .

why take away captaincy from a fixer and give it to an inferior fixer, lol, cant argue with the logic, which makes the situation of pak cricket in the 90s all the more laughable, or sad, depending on how you remember that period.

malik however, is pbly the most prolific fixer in paks history, from what ive heard.

 

[AAli98]

Pak players can barley pay there restaurant bills they look at each other’s faces who’s gonna pay.. where would poor Malik get $276,000 from that too in the mid 90s !

 

[Varun]

Pak players can barley pay there restaurant bills they look at each other’s faces who’s gonna pay.. where would poor Malik get $276,000 from that too in the mid 90s !

Not true. Indian and Pakistani cricketers were among the top 10% richest persons in their respective countries as of the 1990s. Television had taken over, and commercial sponsorship was beginning to happen now that these teams had performed well and won World Cups and test series etc.

Besides in this case, Salim Malik was just a middleman used to transfer funds from some underworld don I'm sure. The only surprising thing is that he was paying/cheating to win.

 

[silentkiller187]

Little did shane warne know his team mates had already been bought, always been murmurs about mark taylor in pakistan, as another poster mentioned tho surprise warne didnt recall the time him and his mate waugh actually accepted money was only a year or maybe less later.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

I think that was the last time Pakistan heroically honored and fought tooth and nail to win home test series. That was the end.

And our decline in Cricket started next year
Losing 1-2 to sri lanka at home under Raja.
1st home test series loss in 15 years.

Followed by 0-1 home test series losses against South Africa 1997, Australia 98, England 2000 and zimbabwe 1998 as well.

Our cricket team never recovered post 1994 onwards and coincidentally 1994 was the last time Pakistan won Major trophies in Hockey.
World cup + champions trophy.

Brutal.

In 90s and 00s we have had so many fixers in our team.

And in 10s Misbah came and we finally won against a #1 side.

Personally I like Babar and we had a spectacular T20I world cup so Insha'Allah 20s will be fixing free for team Pakistan.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

The 1990s generation of the sub-continent was shady: Salim Malik, Azharuddin, Wasim Akram, Jadeja etc.

Add Aussies / South Africans to the list as well.

 

[Markhor]

He was axed as captain long before he was strongly alleged as a fixer. But what about those like Wasim, Waqar ? They were named in Abdul Qaium report but still was given captaincy though they were lot inferior as a captain to Malik .

The fixing allegations against Salim came out in Feb 1995 while Pakistan toured Zimbabwe.

In the next Test series vs Sri Lanka, our current Chairman became captain and we lost our first home series since 1980.

Salim was one of the most tactically astute captains we had and had an impressive W/L record...when he wanted to win.

 

[Sarwar89]

Pakista's biggest mistake, one Of the greatest mistake ever done was in Pakistani history was to take captaincy away from Salim Malik. He was one of the best captain, one of the best cricketing brain ever in Pakistan cricket history. And his performance as a batsman was awesome too when he was captain. Pakistan's performance got declined after Malik was axed as a captain. Then the captaincy was shared between some fixers.

I am suprised nobody has mentioned here that under Salim Malik back in early part of 1994, Pakistan beat India in Australasia Cup final. A good tournament composed of 6 teams.

 

[Sarwar89]

The fixing allegations against Salim came out in Feb 1995 while Pakistan toured Zimbabwe.

In the next Test series vs Sri Lanka, our current Chairman became captain and we lost our first home series since 1980.

Salim was one of the most tactically astute captains we had and had an impressive W/L record...when he wanted to win.

After Salim
Malik, i till this day can not recall a tactically astute witty captain Pakistan produced.

Raja, Sohail, Akram, Moin, Waqar, Latif , inzamam did not do well, we lost world cups, champions trophies, home test series. Misbah was dull but he was trenches guy, gritty, so he got success in Tests at home atleast ( uae) and mixted record abroad but better than other lot i just mentioned. I will not judge current lot just yet. Probably current lot i ll judge post 2025 icc champions trophy.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Here’s how the convo probably went.

Salim Malik - “eh warne we give u 200k if you help us win”

Shane Warne - “Jeez, idk mate…I’d love to but I’m scared of getting caught”.

And, how the convo went in Shane Warner’s head.

Salim Malik - “eh warne we give u 200k if you help us win”

Shane Warne - “F*** NO MATE, I’ll knock you out, we’re gonna beat ya and smash ya”.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

If you believe this happened in the way that Shane Warne said then I would like to introduce you to my friend from Nigeria who is a very rich but needs some help to access the funds.

 

[Technics 1210]

I watched the documentary last night on Amazon Prime (rented it). Probably one of the best documentarys on cricket I have seen.

Yes remember the scene related to the OP too.

Funny thing was Pakistan won the game in the end through4 leg byes.

Shameful incident.

Still Shane is a doc worth watching. Superb!

 

[Monsee]

Interesting. Wonder if the documentary also covers the time Warne and his mate M Waugh received bans for taking $5,000 and $4000 from a bookie to answer some “routine” questions.

Which was conveniently never mentioned during this new hoopla (after supposedly Malik offered the money), swept under the carpet for good 20 some years...until some Aussie journalist sumbled upon it!

My Question to Warne is: Is $5000 more than $200,000...why did you decide to take the first and refuse the last one? (A bribe accepted is still a bribe no matter what)

Why should we believe his version of events when he is shaddy as hell based on all that and other stuff he has been involved in throughout his life?

NOTE: Not supporting Malik one bit, he was shady as hell as well!

 

[Concerned]

Does $276,000 in 1994 sound feasible?

Amir, Butt and Asif were happy with £150k nearly 16 years after.

 

[Monsee]

Does $276,000 in 1994 sound feasible?

Amir, Butt and Asif were happy with £150k nearly 16 years after.

Something doesn't add up there when he accepts 5K and not 200k...no one ever really questioned ACB why they didn't disclose that bribe taken by Warne and Waugh for so many years?

I would def not take the word (as truth) of a board/player who disclose some and then hides some info to make them look like the good guys!

 

[octavian]

I watched the documentary last night on Amazon Prime (rented it). Probably one of the best documentarys on cricket I have seen.

Yes remember the scene related to the OP too.

Funny thing was Pakistan won the game in the end through4 leg byes.

Shameful incident.

Still Shane is a doc worth watching. Superb!

Any mention of the incident where Warne and Mark Waugh accepted money to give inside information to bookies?

Malik and others and in Pakistan team were fixers but it happened everywhere.

Azharuddin, Jadeja, Cronje, Warne, Waugh are only the tip of the iceberg. Bob Woolmer's death is very very suspicious.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Won't believe anything coming out of Warne's mouth - someone who took money from an Indian bookie to divulge pitch details.


https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/sport/story/19981221-acb-breaks-silence-admits-shane-warne-and-mark-waugh-accepted-money-from-bookie-827637-1998-12-21

 

[moghul]

Warne has "revealed" this story million times already , its was an extremely shameful event and I don;t mind if he "reveals" it another million times.

 

[moghul]

Any mention of the incident where Warne and Mark Waugh accepted money to give inside information to bookies?

Malik and others and in Pakistan team were fixers but it happened everywhere.

Azharuddin, Jadeja, Cronje, Warne, Waugh are only the tip of the iceberg. Bob Woolmer's death is very very suspicious.

Warne was also banned by ICC for taking banned substance , so was not a saint either.

 

[Technics 1210]

Any mention of the incident where Warne and Mark Waugh accepted money to give inside information to bookies?

Malik and others and in Pakistan team were fixers but it happened everywhere.

Azharuddin, Jadeja, Cronje, Warne, Waugh are only the tip of the iceberg. Bob Woolmer's death is very very suspicious.

Yes. The doc mentioned Warne and Waugh and the 'weather' bookie incident.

Watch the doc first before making assumptions.

 

[Technics 1210]

Warne was also banned by ICC for taking banned substance , so was not a saint either.

The substance was removed from the banned list about 2 years later from when Warne was banned.

 

[Saj]

I don't think we will ever know the full facts behind what exactly was said and what happened.

Surely there is more to this than meets the eye.

 

[Saj]

The fixing allegations against Salim came out in Feb 1995 while Pakistan toured Zimbabwe.

In the next Test series vs Sri Lanka, our current Chairman became captain and we lost our first home series since 1980.

Salim was one of the most tactically astute captains we had and had an impressive W/L record...when he wanted to win.

And add to this, Malik was a brilliant batter and someone who played Warne with ease. In fact I don't recall many batters play Warne better than Salim Malik.

 

[Giannis]

Warne loves attention

 

[MenInG]

In the midst of delivering one of the greatest individual Ashes performances of all-time, in what is widely regarded as the rivalry’s best edition, Shane Warne was hurting.

“I would play cricket and go back to the hotel room and raid the mini bar. Just sit in my room by myself and just drink,” Warne revealed in new a new Amazon Prime documentary about his life, titled Shane.

“In my hotel room crying, on the floor. ‘**** you, d**khead’, you know? Just berating myself for some of the things I did.”

While Australia was shocked by England at the 2005 Ashes in the UK, losing 2-1, the series was Warne’s finest hour in Test cricket as he took a whopping 40 wickets at 19.92 in a losing cause.

Making Warne’s performance all the more remarkable was the weight of a broken marriage, and separation from his children, soon before the series following revelations of multiple extra-marital affairs.

Warne and wife Simone divorced in 2005, with the latter returning to Australia from the UK with their three young children Brooke, Jackson and Summer.

The greatest leg-spinner of all-time became the subject of cruel, personal Barmy Army chants all 2005 Ashes as his name was dragged through the mud by the British tabloids.

One song went: “Where‘s your missus gone? Far, far away.”

In the documentary, Warne said that outside of playing Test matches, he became reclusive on the tour and desperately missed his children.

“I think that was the lowest because it had nothing to do with anything else... the impact it had on my children, I couldn't get to see my children and they couldn’t get to see me and it was my fault,” Warne said in the documentary.

“To try and live with that at that time and to go out and play for your country in an Ashes series was sh*t. It was bloody hard.

“Playing in one of the greatest Ashes series of all time, talking to my kids, saying, ‘I miss you, daddy. I wish I was with you. Good luck at the cricket’. Then you just put the phone down and grab a vodka or whatever out of the fridge.”

Warne’s eldest child, Brooke, says in the documentary that Warne’s affairs being reported in the British media before the series was the first time that she had seen her father “in a bad light”.

Speaking to foxsports.com.au this week, Warne opened up on the experience of reliving the painful memories from his career.

Asked what the hardest aspect of the filming process was, he said it was “anything where I hurt my children”.

“That‘s the hardest thing to talk about because I have to live with that everyday,” Warne said. “That’s never easy to do.”

He added: “To rehash a lot of that stuff that was nearly 30 years ago, 20 years ago, wasn't easy to talk about.

“It's never easy to talk about, but I do. I’ve been honest my whole life. I give a pretty honest and brutal account over what happened over the years, too.”

Warne retired after the 2006-07 Ashes series, saying he wanted to be more involved in his children's lives and no longer be a “part-time father”.

The 52-year-old said he felt that — 15 years after his retirement, and now that his children are all adults — the time was right to be involved in the making on a documentary on his life.

“All my children have finished school, they're old enough, we’ve been through it together and chatted about lots of different stuff,” Warne told foxsports.com.au.

“They want to know a little bit more about my life and my journey because when I first started they weren’t born. My first daughter was born in ‘97 and I had already been playing for seven or eight seasons and already achieved some amazing things.

“I wish my children were this age now when I started so they could see and we could do it together.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricke...n/news-story/baa0516fc42538525a68bfacbafdccb2

 

[Savak]

Salim Malik was caught in a sting operation by the NOTW in 2000. He is guilty as sin. But he has been punished long enough.

 

[moghul]

The substance was removed from the banned list about 2 years later from when Warne was banned.

It was a diuretics which is still banmed, Yasir shah was banned for the same reason , as diuretics are taken to get rid of the banned drugs quickly from the system, to avoid getting detected .

 

[moghul]

In the midst of delivering one of the greatest individual Ashes performances of all-time, in what is widely regarded as the rivalry’s best edition, Shane Warne was hurting.

“I would play cricket and go back to the hotel room and raid the mini bar. Just sit in my room by myself and just drink,” Warne revealed in new a new Amazon Prime documentary about his life, titled Shane.

“In my hotel room crying, on the floor. ‘**** you, d**khead’, you know? Just berating myself for some of the things I did.”

While Australia was shocked by England at the 2005 Ashes in the UK, losing 2-1, the series was Warne’s finest hour in Test cricket as he took a whopping 40 wickets at 19.92 in a losing cause.

Making Warne’s performance all the more remarkable was the weight of a broken marriage, and separation from his children, soon before the series following revelations of multiple extra-marital affairs.

Warne and wife Simone divorced in 2005, with the latter returning to Australia from the UK with their three young children Brooke, Jackson and Summer.

The greatest leg-spinner of all-time became the subject of cruel, personal Barmy Army chants all 2005 Ashes as his name was dragged through the mud by the British tabloids.

One song went: “Where‘s your missus gone? Far, far away.”

In the documentary, Warne said that outside of playing Test matches, he became reclusive on the tour and desperately missed his children.

“I think that was the lowest because it had nothing to do with anything else... the impact it had on my children, I couldn't get to see my children and they couldn’t get to see me and it was my fault,” Warne said in the documentary.

“To try and live with that at that time and to go out and play for your country in an Ashes series was sh*t. It was bloody hard.

“Playing in one of the greatest Ashes series of all time, talking to my kids, saying, ‘I miss you, daddy. I wish I was with you. Good luck at the cricket’. Then you just put the phone down and grab a vodka or whatever out of the fridge.”

Warne’s eldest child, Brooke, says in the documentary that Warne’s affairs being reported in the British media before the series was the first time that she had seen her father “in a bad light”.

Speaking to foxsports.com.au this week, Warne opened up on the experience of reliving the painful memories from his career.

Asked what the hardest aspect of the filming process was, he said it was “anything where I hurt my children”.

“That‘s the hardest thing to talk about because I have to live with that everyday,” Warne said. “That’s never easy to do.”

He added: “To rehash a lot of that stuff that was nearly 30 years ago, 20 years ago, wasn't easy to talk about.

“It's never easy to talk about, but I do. I’ve been honest my whole life. I give a pretty honest and brutal account over what happened over the years, too.”

Warne retired after the 2006-07 Ashes series, saying he wanted to be more involved in his children's lives and no longer be a “part-time father”.

The 52-year-old said he felt that — 15 years after his retirement, and now that his children are all adults — the time was right to be involved in the making on a documentary on his life.

“All my children have finished school, they're old enough, we’ve been through it together and chatted about lots of different stuff,” Warne told foxsports.com.au.

“They want to know a little bit more about my life and my journey because when I first started they weren’t born. My first daughter was born in ‘97 and I had already been playing for seven or eight seasons and already achieved some amazing things.

“I wish my children were this age now when I started so they could see and we could do it together.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricke...n/news-story/baa0516fc42538525a68bfacbafdccb2

so Warne was a morally corrupt guy, cheating on his wife multiple times and committed many other "cheatings" including taking a banned substance but he would take a bribe from Saleem Malik , may be true but hard to believe.

But I miss those days when all time great cricketers like Warne, Tendulkar, Pontings ,Wasim , Waqar, Donald, Smith , Lara, Ambrose, Mcgrath, Kallis , Kumbe, Murli were all were playing for their respective countries at the same time , not like today.

 

[frenchcut]

Shane “pitch & weather information” Warne sticking the boot in and making himself out as one of the good guys? Give over

 

[Junaids]

There is an obvious problem here.

Pakistan won by their tenth wicket pair scoring 57 runs, while Shane Warne bowled rubbish, Ian Healy missed a simple stumping and Mark Taylor mysteriously stopped bowling Tim May and Glenn McGrath and just used Warne and Jo Angel instead.

The real question is this: did several key Australian players actually take the money to lose the match?

 

[Gilly]

There is an obvious problem here.

Pakistan won by their tenth wicket pair scoring 57 runs, while Shane Warne bowled rubbish, Ian Healy missed a simple stumping and Mark Taylor mysteriously stopped bowling Tim May and Glenn McGrath and just used Warne and Jo Angel instead.

The real question is this: did several key Australian players actually take the money to lose the match?

Who won player of the match?.

 

[Junaids]

No slip for Tim May against a number XI?

I will word what I say very, very carefully for obvious legal reasons.

When Mark Taylor took over, Australia started to lose quite a few Tests which weren’t broadcast in Australia. They even lost one Test to Nayan Mongia.

If you review the transcripts of the Qayyum Report and the reports of the secret ACB investigation which led to Warne and Mark Waugh being fined for taking money from a fixer that season, one thing is very clear.

Tim May was clean, undoubtedly.

But no one ever seems to have asked hard questions of Mark Taylor, Mark Waugh and Shane Warne.

And multiple actions by each of them in that Karachi run chase are so unusual that any independent observer would be suspicious.

 

[Gilly]

I will word what I say very, very carefully for obvious legal reasons.

When Mark Taylor took over, Australia started to lose quite a few Tests which weren’t broadcast in Australia. They even lost one Test to Nayan Mongia.

If you review the transcripts of the Qayyum Report and the reports of the secret ACB investigation which led to Warne and Mark Waugh being fined for taking money from a fixer that season, one thing is very clear.

Tim May was clean, undoubtedly.

But no one ever seems to have asked hard questions of Mark Taylor, Mark Waugh and Shane Warne.

And multiple actions by each of them in that Karachi run chase are so unusual that any independent observer would be suspicious.

But then you have to weigh that up against your lack of knowledge on this issue, little things you don't know or for your own reasons leave out. You know things like May and McGrath were both injured and could not bowl.

To the unrestrained delight of a crowd which steadily grew in number and chanted Allah-O-Akbar (God is great), they accomplished their goal in 8.1 overs, against an attack weakened by the withdrawal of McDermott, with an infected toe, and then by injuries to McGrath and May. In the end, Warne and Angel, in his second Test, were the only front-line bowlers still standing.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pakistan-v-australia-1994-95-153251

Other little things you seem to make up like Warne bowled rubbish when in fact he won player of the match in a losing team. To give you an idea here is what Inzi had to say about Warne's bowling, unless of course your saying that Inzi was telling lies.

Inzamam: Warne bowled really well throughout the match, especially on the last day, when he was alone.
https://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/390838/the-big-steal

So yeah we could take your view and say that Pakistan did not win the match and Australia let them win.

 

[Junaids]

But then you have to weigh that up against your lack of knowledge on this issue, little things you don't know or for your own reasons leave out. You know things like May and McGrath were both injured and could not bowl.



Other little things you seem to make up like Warne bowled rubbish when in fact he won player of the match in a losing team. To give you an idea here is what Inzi had to say about Warne's bowling, unless of course your saying that Inzi was telling lies.



So yeah we could take your view and say that Pakistan did not win the match and Australia let them win.

There are 35 minutes of Day 5 highlights on YouTube.

At the time, I followed the game through teletext and World Service and Radio Australia radio updates, and watched highlights on “Cover Point” videos.

But the video of 35 minutes of play is there to view on YouTube. You should have a look.

As for Inzamam, I would refer you to Justice Qayyum’s report. He was not found Not Guilty himself!

 

[gazza619]

Does $276,000 in 1994 sound feasible?

Amir, Butt and Asif were happy with £150k nearly 16 years after.

I am pretty sure Malik said Rs.276,000 (not dollars). Inflation has been high in Pakistan. Rs.276,000 as per my guesstimate was equal to $10k. That was quite a sum of money in 1994.. You could easily buy a decent size flat.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

The 1990s generation of the sub-continent was shady: Salim Malik, Azharuddin, Wasim Akram, Jadeja etc.

None as crooked as Salim Malik though.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

so Warne was a morally corrupt guy, cheating on his wife multiple times and committed many other "cheatings" including taking a banned substance but he would take a bribe from Saleem Malik , may be true but hard to believe.

But I miss those days when all time great cricketers like Warne, Tendulkar, Pontings ,Wasim , Waqar, Donald, Smith , Lara, Ambrose, Mcgrath, Kallis , Kumbe, Murli were all were playing for their respective countries at the same time , not like today.

There's a BIG difference between cheating on your wife and cheating on your country.

And the drugs he took were for temporary weight-loss, which he obviously didn't know contained banned substances otherwise he wouldn't have taken them.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

There is an obvious problem here.

Pakistan won by their tenth wicket pair scoring 57 runs, while Shane Warne bowled rubbish, Ian Healy missed a simple stumping and Mark Taylor mysteriously stopped bowling Tim May and Glenn McGrath and just used Warne and Jo Angel instead.

The real question is this: did several key Australian players actually take the money to lose the match?

I think you need to do a little more research mate before you start throwing around unproven accusations and whipping up conspiracy theories.

1. McGrath suffered a hamstring injury and could not bowl in the match.
2. May had a crick in his neck.
3. The wicket was producing significant turn in the last two days and Warne and May were always going to be the danger men on that wicket anyway, not McGrath or anyone else.
4. Warne took 8 wickets in the match, including 5 in the second innings and was the pick of the bowlers in both innings.
5. Hard as it may be for you to believe human beings are capable of making mistakes which is what Healy did. And its a miss he hasn't forgotten to this day if you ever hear him talking about it.

6. Levelling unproven match-fixing allegations at players when you aren't even aware of the entire facts is a classless thing to do and you should know better.

 

[asifp]

Ya he did not play take 200k, but happily took the 5-10k to provide pitch information. Seems reliable.

He was probably taking money till he was caught..

Him and Wasim A, got the too big to fail treatment

 

[Local.Dada]

Shane Warne is kind of a Shoaib Akthar type character. Has his vices and likes to party etc, says what he feels like

However when it comes to profession plays with all the intensity he has with a mindset to win at any cost.

Strange to see people attacking Warne and defending Malik.

To put in context, Saleem Malik was life banned by PCB of all boards for fixing. That’s how bad it was.

 

[ElRaja]

good documentary, enjoyable watch. some of the footage was a bit repetitive, like basit ali being nutmegged three or four times, lol, but warnies the greatest spinner ever, and as a fan of leg spin, you have to appreciate his art.

as for the whole fixing debate, pakistani fans need to accept that whilst players from other nations may have been involved in fixing, no where was it as endemic as Pakistan. players on all levels were involved, salim malik was without a doubt one of the most influential in the history of the game.

his cricketing ability and strategic nouse showed he was smarter than the average pakistani crickter, unfortunately he used that for nefarious purposes.

 

[MenInG]

Considered to by many to be the greatest leg-spinner of all time, Shane Warne has been one of the most popular and known faces in world cricket. Popularity also has its dark side and Warne has faced its brunt even after retirement. The former Australian cricketer opened up about the "lowest point" of his life in a candid conversation with Fox Cricket and also revealed how privacy is very rare for him due to constant attention from the paparazzi. Having gone through many controversies, Warne said that his divorce to Simone Callahan was one of the "difficult" moments in his career especially as it took place along with the 2005 Ashes series in England. He also stated that he had planned to spend the series with his family in England, including his children (Brooke, Jackson and Summer).

"Getting divorced was a difficult time in my life and for my children. And it was my fault, so I have to live with it for the rest of my life", he said.

"A week before the Ashes series to do that and then have to drag myself off the canvas to get out there and play against a quality England side. To have the Barmy Army for six hours a day, not just 10 minutes singing songs and sing 'where's your missus gone?'

"I'm sitting there worrying about my children that I was hoping I was going to spend three months of the Ashes series with. But because of my own doing, they had to turn around and find a flight.

"I was pretty devastated with that and that was the lowest point of my life. And then I had to go out and play an Ashes series," he added.

Warne is an all-time great of the game and is the second-highest wicket-taker in the history of Test cricket.

NDTV

 

[LongHorn]

And add to this, Malik was a brilliant batter and someone who played Warne with ease. In fact I don't recall many batters play Warne better than Salim Malik.

As Inzamam said Salim Malik would not play spinners, he would "loot" them

 

[Monsee]

Shane Warne is kind of a Shoaib Akthar type character. Has his vices and likes to party etc, says what he feels like

However when it comes to profession plays with all the intensity he has with a mindset to win at any cost.

Strange to see people attacking Warne and defending Malik.

To put in context, Saleem Malik was life banned by PCB of all boards for fixing. That’s how bad it was.

It helps to read through all and not just selective part of the thread and read up on this issue on your own as well...Malik said this at that time, as well it came out 20 some years later (courtesy an Aussie journalist who had some conscious unlike ACB, Warne etc.) i.e. Warne and Waugh had taken money from Indian bookies. According to mr. honest Warne it was only for pitch info and team composition lol and only for 5k. How many bookies will pay for that sort of minor info when they can probably bribe the pitch guy for much less in India?

The fact that ACB swept it under the carpet for 20 some years and it only came out by accident, def throws bad light on Warne and Waugh especially since Malik's offer happened right after their tour to India ended. Many to this day believe that Malik was tipped by those bookies that Warne can be bribed based on that 5k bribe they took in India.

Hopefully this will help open your eyes and make you realise most/all here are not taking Malik's side only but basically saying Warne was no angel as well!

 

[Savak]

If Shane Warne and Ian Healy decided to throw the match for free, then they should still be punished by the ICC

 

[Junaids]

If Shane Warne and Ian Healy decided to throw the match for free, then they should still be punished by the ICC

Warne has already been found guilty of taking money from a bookie the same month, but that Australian Cricket Board disciplinary panel did not know anything about the Karachi allegations and counter-allegations.

Nobody claims that some or all of Healy, Taylor and Warne threw the match for free.

The inference is that potentially one or all of them could have taken money and thrown the match.

None of them disclosed the corrupt approaches of Saleem Malik. Only Tim May did, and his report was effectively covered up by the Australian tour management.

At the end of the day, a 60 run last wicket partnership won Pakistan a Test they were on the verge of losing. In Australia and England, legal bookmakers were quoting 1000-1 on Pakistan to win. A £1,000 bet would have made you a millionaire.

It’s possible that all three Australians were innocent. But it’s strange that Saleem Malik’s corrupt approach was not reported, and it’s stranger that Warne suddenly went from bowling brilliantly to bowling pies outside offstump.

Stranger still, the bowler was found guilty of accepting money from an illegal bookmaker the same month.

And both batsmen - Inzamam-ul-Haq and Mushtaq Ahmed - were later convicted by Justice Qayyum of obstruction of justice offences in the 1994 Pakistan fixing case, and both were fined.

The events are weird enough. But that both last wicket partnership batsmen and the bowler were convicted of fixing offences (albeit obstruction of justice offences) is even stranger.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I watched the documentary yesterday. It was reasonably interesting, understandably one sides though with no real exploration of Warnes flaws.

They completely brushed the bookmaker incident under the carpet. In fact the documentary was constructed in such a way that it made you think that because Warne has rejected not just $200k but $200k each for both him and May, that we should believe him when he said he didn't know he was giving info to bookies.

 

[AAli98]

Seems like Mark Taylor’s not a fan

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Atherton: Were Sachin and Lara the two players who played Warne the best?

Mark Taylor: "Certainly Brian comes to mind but there is another guy, the Pakistan captain Saleem Malik, not always the most liked player in world cricket round that time - but Saleem played Warne particularly well on the 1994 tour of Pakistan where I was captain; I thought we played really good cricket but we lost the Test series by a 1-0 margin; They won the first Test by one wicket and we couldn't bowl them out in the other 2 Tests; Saleem made lots of runs in that series in fact I think he made over 500 runs in that series; This was one of the few series that I had a deep point fielder for Warne because Saleem read Warne's length so well and he cut him lot more than I had seen any other batter do to Warne as he picked up his length so quickly”

 

[MenInG]

Seems like Mark Taylor’s not a fan

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Atherton: Were Sachin and Lara the two players who played Warne the best?

Mark Taylor: "Certainly Brian comes to mind but there is another guy, the Pakistan captain Saleem Malik, not always the most liked player in world cricket round that time - but Saleem played Warne particularly well on the 1994 tour of Pakistan where I was captain; I thought we played really good cricket but we lost the Test series by a 1-0 margin; They won the first Test by one wicket and we couldn't bowl them out in the other 2 Tests; Saleem made lots of runs in that series in fact I think he made over 500 runs in that series; This was one of the few series that I had a deep point fielder for Warne because Saleem read Warne's length so well and he cut him lot more than I had seen any other batter do to Warne as he picked up his length so quickly”

Malik was a flawed genius.

 

[Saj]

Interesting comments from Taylor.

Malik developed a technique and approach against Warne which left the leggie clueless.

What a batter Malik was.

 

[TheSultan]

Salim Malik was phenomenal in that series - he was a great leader too.

Was poetic justice that Australia lost that series after the arrogant, self righteous and hypocritical comments from May and Warne.

 

[PakLFC]

Can't bribe someone who is not for sale. Saleem was another sellout who no one now remembers.

 

[TheSultan]

These allegations don’t really make any sense. Why would malik offer money for the opposition to bowl badly? To save face? Why? Any loss to Australia would not have been a disgrace. What would malik gain? If he was so shameless, why would he care how a loss would look.

Match fixing attempts don’t happen like that. And even if Malik wanted to do that, surely get some bookie or something to do it.

 

[Junaids]

Tubby Taylor’s point is well-made but there is still a huge problem.

1. Warne had already secretly been selling information to a matchfixer that month - but the Australian Cricket Board covered up his conviction.

2. Warne failed to report Saleem Malik’s attempted bribe. Tim May reported it, but Warne concealed it.

3. Warne was bowling as Pakistan put on 60 for the last wicket to win the First Test, and never threatened Saleem Malik in the next two Tests.

Saleem Malik is the last person alive who can tell us whether Shane Warne actually took the bribe. I suspect we will never find out the truth.

 

[Junaids]

These allegations don’t really make any sense. Why would malik offer money for the opposition to bowl badly? To save face? Why? Any loss to Australia would not have been a disgrace. What would malik gain? If he was so shameless, why would he care how a loss would look.

Match fixing attempts don’t happen like that. And even if Malik wanted to do that, surely get some bookie or something to do it.

This was 1994-95: Pakistan and Australia were jostling to replace the fading West Indies as the world’s Number 1 Test team. Pakistan hadn’t lost a home series for 14 years.

Saleem Malik’s captaincy was dependent upon him winning that series. Defeat to Australia was unthinkable!

 

[TheSultan]

This was 1994-95: Pakistan and Australia were jostling to replace the fading West Indies as the world’s Number 1 Test team. Pakistan hadn’t lost a home series for 14 years.

Saleem Malik’s captaincy was dependent upon him winning that series. Defeat to Australia was unthinkable!

Yes I’m aware of the race to No1, but I don’t personally think his captaincy wasn’t under immediate threat. They’d won in NZ under his captaincy and a loss to Aus should not have ended his captaincy especially with all the turmoil around. I don’t think the pcb had a choice after all the infighting and fight for captaincy the year before.

But I do agree with your main point. This whole episode was very strange and Warne and May’s allegations became a self fulling prophesy! We will never know what exactly happened.

Unfortunately they didn’t have live coverage of the series in the uk so I can’t really judge whether Warne bowled badly or malik played him really well. However, Malik was a great player of spin and at his best one of the best batsmen in the world so it’s perfectly feasible that he schooled Warne. Not only that, if there was something fishy about his performance I doubt Mark Taylor would bring this up in a conversation about the guys who played Warne the best - 28 years later. He could have easily batted away this question by athers by waxing lyrical about Lara and Tendulkar.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

There is an obvious problem here.

Pakistan won by their tenth wicket pair scoring 57 runs, while Shane Warne bowled rubbish, Ian Healy missed a simple stumping and Mark Taylor mysteriously stopped bowling Tim May and Glenn McGrath and just used Warne and Jo Angel instead.

The real question is this: did several key Australian players actually take the money to lose the match?

McGrath got injured. Ankle ir something.

 

[Saj]

Can't bribe someone who is not for sale. Saleem was another sellout who no one now remembers.

No he will always be remembered by many as one of Pakistan's batting greats.

For all of his issues, one should not overlook the fact that he was a wonderful and highly-skilled batter.

 

[Junaids]

McGrath got injured. Ankle ir something.

Things just look different the more you know.

At the time it seemed like Inzy and Mushy had performed a miracle, but we didn’t know that Warne had just been caught selling information to a notorious matchfixer.

It’s like the World Cup semi-final five years later. It seemed a bit weird for South Africa to knock themselves out with a needless self-inflicted run-out with 3 balls left to score one run.

But as soon as we learned that their skipper had been offering bribes in team meetings, it started not to look like a freak event at all.

 

[Junaids]

No he will always be remembered by many as one of Pakistan's batting greats.

For all of his issues, one should not overlook the fact that he was a wonderful and highly-skilled batter.

Definitely, but aside from the fixing he had some weird character flaws.

I remember Imran Khan disparaging him as a flat track bully after he failed to perform in the West Indies in 87-88.

But it was fascinating when Wasim Akram was appointed skipper for the next Caribbean tour in 92-93, with Pakistan ready to be crowned world Test champions, only for the selectors to drop Saleem Malik completely. And then they lost because they had failed to take Saleem Malik and Shoaib Mohammad!

I’d love to know what the selectors were thinking, and why!