Fact: Pakistan has the best senior players in the world

[Suleiman]

Misbah, Younis in tests
Shoaib Malik, Afridi, Hafeez, Kamran Akmal in LOIs and t20s

Especially all these guys played into or beyond their 40s. That too with the modern work loads which previous generations didn’t have. Need to give them a round of applause for this.

People say it’s because Pakistan doesn’t have young talent.

I say it’s because we have exceptional senior cricketers who are hungry to keep playing.

I wanted to see these seniors dropped after they got too old. But Hafeez, Shobby, Kami and Afridi are still doing it, they still have the Jazba.

Maybe we are now a country producing world class late bloomers instead of youngsta beauties.

 

[Audrey500]

What on earth is this thread. What’s next, Pakistan’s produced the best players to not retire gracefully.

They’re doing well because they play in a league full of mostly mediocre domestic level talent.

Stick them in the IPL, none would get picked, let alone have the honour to sit on the bench.

 

[Zaz]

Kamran akmal hafeez and the likes of malik are mediocre chokers

They arent players we should be celebrating at all

 

[Hawkeye]

Except Malik who is the epitome of failure and mediocrity, yes others were quite good during their time.

Right now only Hafeez is the real king.

Better than all the youngsters too.

 

[Kroll]

"The most" is more accurate.

 

[Rana]

Lol

Pakistan has the best uncles in the world.

 

[Rana]

Sehwag, Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly even now would be better than Imam ul Haq and co.

 

[Suleiman]

Sehwag, Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly even now would be better than Imam ul Haq and co.

But Sehwag and the others were fading out fast at 37. They were getting owned by Ashok Dinda and Shami type bowlers in IPL. Afridi at age 37+ smashed a ton in natwest t20 berry blast in England. Hafeez did it vs word class NZ t20 attack.

Even Tendu was finished as t20 player by 37.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Pakistan senior's XI will easily beat Rest of the world senior's XI

 

[gazza619]

Lets play a +40 WC.

 

[NishanKonar]

But Sehwag and the others were fading out fast at 37. They were getting owned by Ashok Dinda and Shami type bowlers in IPL. Afridi at age 37+ smashed a ton in natwest t20 berry blast in England. Hafeez did it vs word class NZ t20 attack.

Even Tendu was finished as t20 player by 37.

Sehwag at 36 smashed one of the best IPL tons ever against CSK

Dravid led Rajasthan Royals to semifianls at the age of 40

 

[Muhammad Saad]

No the upcoming players are trash making our TTFs look as world class.

 

[Local.Dada]

Op has a point. Also does Pakistan have the youngest coaching staff Younis,Misbah and Waqar who is officially 49.

 

[mon858]

It may be pointless but somehow it may make sense. Also add to that 2 to 3 years for standard desi age fudging. Only argument against us would be most other countries their players retire by this time so we can't be very sure had they continued how hood they may have been.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Seeing the same faces for 20 years and youngsters come and go. Looks like half of the domestic players are over 40

 

[wrongun]

How are the seniors who were part of a top 5 test outfit (probably) but never anywhere near a top 3 Test outfit (LOI about the same, for that matter) suddenly better now that they are retired?

Is Misbah & Younis now batter than Ponting & Tendulkar?
Did Akhtar suddenly get fit enough to play entire series? Did Asif get morals? Is Ajmal now as agood as Murali & Warne?

Weird thread.

 

[Giannis]

This is true, Pakistani people prefer to work hard and hustle even in their 40s whereas you got the English/Aussie cricketers who retire around 30 and suffer from injuries and mental health issues, they don't have the hunger to keep going. Most of these SENA cricketers would get laughed at in American sports, cause most American pro athletes play a lot more and have really long careers, I think this different sports culture is one of the perks of the revolutionary war.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Claimed: Pakistan best on the world in a stat that doesn't matter.

Like I used to tell my father. Academically, now that I'm in undergrad, I can absolutely smash those punk kids in 4th grade .....

 

[moghul]

Misbah, Younis in tests
Shoaib Malik, Afridi, Hafeez, Kamran Akmal in LOIs and t20s

Especially all these guys played into or beyond their 40s. That too with the modern work loads which previous generations didn’t have. Need to give them a round of applause for this.

People say it’s because Pakistan doesn’t have young talent.

I say it’s because we have exceptional senior cricketers who are hungry to keep playing.

I wanted to see these seniors dropped after they got too old. But Hafeez, Shobby, Kami and Afridi are still doing it, they still have the Jazba.

Maybe we are now a country producing world class late bloomers instead of youngsta beauties.

Don;t know in what state of mind this thread was initiated. This is list of the most selfish "seniors" in the history of cricket ( Misbah was the worst ) who stuck with the team like a leach with one mediocre performance after a long run of failure and on average played 5 years too long .

 

[Suleiman]

How are the seniors who were part of a top 5 test outfit (probably) but never anywhere near a top 3 Test outfit (LOI about the same, for that matter) suddenly better now that they are retired?

Is Misbah & Younis now batter than Ponting & Tendulkar?
Did Akhtar suddenly get fit enough to play entire series? Did Asif get morals? Is Ajmal now as agood as Murali & Warne?

Weird thread.

Yeah but Misbah and Younis at 40 would mop the floor with 40 y/o Ricky and Sachin. We should celebrate longevity. If you are able to tango with competition 10-20 years younger than you at age 40+, that is a major achievement and testament to fitness, talent and skill.

 

[Suleiman]

This is true, Pakistani people prefer to work hard and hustle even in their 40s whereas you got the English/Aussie cricketers who retire around 30 and suffer from injuries and mental health issues, they don't have the hunger to keep going. Most of these SENA cricketers would get laughed at in American sports, cause most American pro athletes play a lot more and have really long careers, I think this different sports culture is one of the perks of the revolutionary war.

Yep, agreed, aside from the mental health stuff.

Tom Brady and Shahid Afridi approved.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

I absolutely agree. Only in Pakistan I've seen players step up their game at the twilight of their careers. Younis,Misbah,Hafeez to name a few

 

[AamirWarraich]

Nice bait yaar. So many people fell for it.

 

[fasihulhaq94]

Ridiculous threads being posted day in and out here.

 

[Ab Fan]

Can't agree with the OP. If it was an Indian, I would have agreed though.

 

[Hyperion66]

But Sehwag and the others were fading out fast at 37. They were getting owned by Ashok Dinda and Shami type bowlers in IPL. Afridi at age 37+ smashed a ton in natwest t20 berry blast in England. Hafeez did it vs word class NZ t20 attack.

Even Tendu was finished as t20 player by 37.

What do you mean by Shami type bro? You wish you had a bowler of Shami's caliber.

 

[JattMaula]

What do you mean by Shami type bro? You wish you had a bowler of Shami's caliber.

Casual disrespect is outrageous.

 

[Mesozoic]

Lol

 

[BreadPakoda]

This is what happens when you back the seniors, show them respect, and ensure that their position in the team is safe. They flourish. I am sure Azhar bhai will have a purple patch too once he turns 40.

Other teams discard seniors and keep questioning their position in the team.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Time has come to back Azhar Ali, Fawad Alam, and Hafeez till they are 45.

 

[RyanRyan10]

This is what happens when you back the seniors, show them respect, and ensure that their position in the team is safe. They flourish. I am sure Azhar bhai will have a purple patch too once he turns 40.

Other teams discard seniors and keep questioning their position in the team.

Wish they had backed Asad Shafiq too

The best no.6 batsman in the history of the game deserved better treatment

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

I would say Hafeez is the best over 40 player in the world. Really insulting to mention him with Malik, Afridi, and Akmal. He has been in tremendous form.

 

[Heisenberg111]

How are the seniors who were part of a top 5 test outfit (probably) but never anywhere near a top 3 Test
outfit (LOI about the same, for that matter) suddenly better now that they are retired?

Is Misbah & Younis now batter than Ponting & Tendulkar?
Did Akhtar suddenly get fit enough to play entire series? Did Asif get morals? Is Ajmal now as agood as Murali & Warne?

Weird thread.

Well, Pakistan did become no.1 in Test Cricket in the Misbah, Younis era.

 

[Mamoon]

Our senior players are not as good as they appear to be. The problem is that our young players have no talent and they are nowhere near these senior players that our deluded fans abuse.

 

[Suleiman]

Iftikhar Ahmed, who is a respected senior, also performed vs. quality bowlers like Amir today.

Sorry for disrespecting you sir.

 

[Saj]

And also Pakistani senior players probably get the most chances compared to others around the world.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Does Pakistan ever produce good/fine players? Reading this forum, Pakistani cricketers are either the best in world or worst than Bdeshis.

They are the best of the worst

 

[hashimafzal]

Our seniors only appear better because they play the most games.

Give Tendulkar a run of games even at his current age he could still probably average 30.

Impressive? Yes.

Ideal? No.

 

[Junaids]

And yet they keep losing!

 

[RyanRyan10]

Wahab takes a 4fer

Hafeez 3.0 destroying every team

Malik is doing his bit

 

[Suleiman]

Our seniors only appear better because they play the most games.

Give Tendulkar a run of games even at his current age he could still probably average 30.

Impressive? Yes.

Ideal? No.

No he couldn’t. After Saeed Ajmal ended his ODI career in Asia cup 2012 he was never the same in LOIs despite a productive WC 2011.

Junaid Khan ended whatever was left of Sehwag and G Gambhir that they ran off to Twitter to talk bad about Pak rather than play cricket. Posting controversial tweets (Sachin too sadly, he’s losing fans, fast). This is post Aane do series. I don’t want to hear of India ever again in this thread.

Our seniors retired humbly from ODI/t20 and are now outperforming youngsters in t20 leagues. So who really won?