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South Africa captain Faf du Plessis has been charged for breaching Article 2.2.9 of the ICC Code of Conduct after television footage appeared to show him applying an artificial substance to the ball during the fourth day’s play in the second Test in Hobart, which concluded on Tuesday.

The charge relates to changing the condition of the ball in breach of Law 42.3 and has been laid by the ICC Chief Executive David Richardson who has exercised his right to do so according to Article 3.1.3 of the Code.

Du Plessis has pleaded not guilty to the charge and, as such, the matter will now be heard by Andy Pycroft of the Emirates Elite Panel of ICC Match Referees. Details of the hearing will be announced in due course.

The alleged incident happened on Tuesday morning when TV footage appeared to show du Plessis applying saliva and residue from a mint or sweet, an artificial substance, to the ball in an attempt to change its condition.

All level 2 breaches carry an imposition of a fine between 50 per cent to 100 per cent of the applicable match fee and/or up to two suspension points, and three or four demerit points.
 
I'm going to the Adelaide Test: I hope he isn't ruled out!
 
Isn't this a bit of a dodgy precedent? Are they going to start charging everyone who chews gum on the field and shines the ball given 100s of players are 'guilty' of this?
 
Junaids said:
I'm going to the Adelaide Test: I hope he isn't ruled out!
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What's so special about watching du Plessis? He averages in the late 30s in FC cricket and his career average is also sliding towards that normal.

In his own team, there are far better players to watch.
 
Varun said:
What's so special about watching du Plessis? He averages in the late 30s in FC cricket and his career average is also sliding towards that normal.

In his own team, there are far better players to watch.
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His captaincy?
 
The ICC's law states that an artificial substance cannot be used to shine the ball. He was charged under this law.

du Plessis, however used his saliva. His saliva may have had mint residue in it, but the underlying point is that ultimately, his saliva, a natural substance, was used.

The law under which he was charged does not define what an "artificial substance" is, and as far as I'm concerned, Faf used an artificially enhanced natural substance. He shouldn't have been charged seeing that the definition of an artificial substance is not specified.
 
soso_killer said:
Applying saliva is ball tempering?
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Applying saliva that contains sugary residue may be but I think it will hard to be consistent with this interpretation. How long after having a mint can one apply the saliva and what if someone has some mint/ confection before coming on the field? Will they test the players' saliva to detect residue?
 
Varun said:
What's so special about watching du Plessis? He averages in the late 30s in FC cricket and his career average is also sliding towards that normal.

In his own team, there are far better players to watch.
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His captaincy.

After watching Amla skipper them like a lost puppy, and De Villiers skipper them like a man with no understanding of strategy or psychology, FAF gets at least 50% more out of his unit.
 
Belawal2014 said:
Mitchell Johnson is crying on twitter :))
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Should be banned for 5 Tests and then 1 year if he does it again.

ICC needs to get serious about serial offenders.
 
He's quite obviously using the mint, right?

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Junaids said:
His captaincy.

After watching Amla skipper them like a lost puppy, and De Villiers skipper them like a man with no understanding of strategy or psychology, FAF gets at least 50% more out of his unit.
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yep leading from the front in many aspects.
 
samplepiece said:
Applying saliva that contains sugary residue may be but I think it will hard to be consistent with this interpretation. How long after having a mint can one apply the saliva and what if someone has some mint/ confection before coming on the field? Will they test the players' saliva to detect residue?
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What about chewing gum?
I've seen players using their saliva in such instances as well, why the discrepancy?
 
Isn't he the same guy who used his zip on his trouser's pocket to damage the ball against some team recently? I think it was vs Pakistan.
 
Should be banned for a couple of games, it isn't the first time.
 
CSA STATEMENT ON FAF DU PLESSIS CHARGE

Friday, 18 November 2016

CRICKET SOUTH AFRICA (CSA) is fully cognizant of the charge brought against its acting national captain, Mr. Faf du Plessis, by the International Cricket Council (ICC) in terms of article 2.2.9 of its Code of Conduct.

CSA will be providing the necessary support, including legal representation, to aid Mr du Plessis to defend the charge made against him.

“We have asked the ICC to consider the time needed for us to consult and appoint legal representation and make the necessary logistical arrangements when setting a date for the hearing,” commented CSA CEO Haroon Lorgat. “We are now waiting on the ICC to inform us of the date for the hearing.”

As the matter is subject to a hearing, CSA will make no further comment at this stage.
 
The South Africa team came together in a show of support for Faf du Plessis, who has been charged with ball tampering.
Hashim Amla said South Africa thought "ridiculous" allegations of ball tampering aimed at Faf du Plessis were a "joke" as the Proteas put on a united front.

Amla spoke to the media on Friday with his team-mates standing behind him before stand-in captain Du Plessis was charged by the ICC for "changing the condition of the ball in breach of Law 42.3."

Television footage appeared to show Du Plessis applying saliva from a mint or sweet to the ball on the fourth and final day of the tourists victory in Hobart, which gave them an unassailable 2-0 lead in the three-match Test series.
The 32-year-old will face an ICC hearing after pleading not guilty and former skipper Amla said the batsman has done nothing wrong.

He said: "The reason everybody is here is to stand together and show solidarity to what has been something that is really what we thought was actually a joke.

"It's not April, but the allegations against Faf was a farce, a ridiculous thing. As a team we are standing strong, we've done nothing. For us it's basically a joke, so our boys are here and we are standing strong.


"We've done nothing wrong, Faf has done nothing wrong. I chew bubble gum every time I'm fielding, so do you want me to brush my teeth after lunch every time I come out to the field?

"You've got to be logical about this, common sense surely has got to prevail. There was no malicious intent whatsoever."

He added: "To a lot of people it's sounding like sour sweets, maybe that we've played really good cricket and the timing of it is a bit weird too."

Du Plessis did not face the media, but retweeted several tweets relating to his charge.

One of which was from former Australia batsman Matthew Hayden, who wrote: "Ball tampering OMG please. What about this 'Watch the ball' the rest will look after itself!!!"

http://www.sportal.co.nz/cricket/ne...-done-nothing-wrong/iwlnbcu1s1dj127iim9o3ufig
 
He should get a ban. There is no place for putting saliva or any type of tampering with the ball.
 
Hasan123 said:
He should get a ban. There is no place for putting saliva or any type of tampering with the ball.
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You mean to tell me no one has ever applied saliva on a cricket ball?
Ban Faf for life then, how dare he use his own saliva.
 
ICC should be consistent then. Any player chewing gum using saliva should face the music. I have seen countless players with chewing gum using saliva to shine balls.
 
soso_killer said:
You mean to tell me no one has ever applied saliva on a cricket ball?
Ban Faf for life then, how dare he use his own saliva.
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I didn't say ban him for life.

There is no need to touch the ball with anything. Rubbing on trousers is fine but I don't understand why you need to use any substances on it. If icc think he has done wrong I'll go with them on this one.
 
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It has been done with other stuff. Why do you think bowlers have globs of sunscreen on their faces. One guy whose name I forgot used to put dollops of vaseline on his eye brows to "keep the sweat out".
English team eat jelly beans (boiled sweets) of all things that are especially sticky. Remember them dropping a bunch on the pitch against India that had Zaheer Khan all bent out of shape???
Here is Tresco's own confession about shining the ball. trescothick-we-cheated

Every team has a designated shiner. Fau has been caught twice. Once against us with the zipper and now this.
 
Amla: Allegation against Faf is ridiculous

Sydney - Proteas players have rallied behind beleaguered captain Faf du Plessis as he faces allegations of ball tampering after the second Test against Australia.

Du Plessis is subject to an International Cricket Council investigation, accused of shining the ball while having a sweet in his mouth during the match at Hobart which South Africa won by an innings an 81 runs to take an unassailable 2-0 lead in the three-Test series.

The full South African squad attended a news conference on Friday, standing behind top-order batsman Hashim Amla as he spoke on his captain's behalf.

"The reason everyone is here is to stand together, really, and to show solidarity," Amla said.

"We thought it was actually a joke. It's not April, but the allegation against Faf was a really ridiculous thing," Amla said. "As a team, we're standing strong, we've done nothing wrong."

The accusation against Du Plessis was that having the sweet in his mouth could produce a sticky saliva which, when applied to the ball, could affect its movement through the air.

"I chew bubble gum while I'm on the field - you want me to brush my teeth after lunch?" Amla said. "We're standing out on the field for two hours... there was no malicious intent whatsoever."

South Africa team officials then tried to shut down the news conference and engaged in testy exchanges with reporters. Amla continued to defend du Plessis.

"Is it proven or what? Because that's something that is really new to us," Amla said. "I've had sweets in my mouth, bubblegum in my mouth, butong, nuts. I'm not sure what the big deal is.

"To a lot of people, it's sounding more like sour sweets."

http://www.sport24.co.za/Cricket/Proteas/amla-allegation-against-faf-is-ridiculous-20161118
 
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If you ask me I think Faf is innocent. A lot of players chew gum and also mints from time to time.

There needs to be adequate proof that saliva altered by gum and mints really help swing the ball
 
Hasan123 said:
I didn't say ban him for life.

There is no need to touch the ball with anything. Rubbing on trousers is fine but I don't understand why you need to use any substances on it. If icc think he has done wrong I'll go with them on this one.
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Mate, players do that all the time.
Even use hair gels to try an shine the ball, is the ICC doing anything to stop players from moisturising their hair? I don't think so.
 
Now there is footage of Warner applying some lip-balm while on the field and after a couple of minutes he is 'shining' the ball... there is really nothing to this unless ICC is going to ban all substances, sweets etc. (which I reckon would be a bit over the top) on the field.

The way Faf was doing it just made it a tad obvious though. Players generally don't put their whole finger in their mouth in the deliberate manner he was doing it.
 
Nothing is changed no proper rules one day cops allow to go on the road another day its one way you get a ticket cause they hungry generally. Already been discussed if you haven't watched this 1994 tampering discussion i highly recommend to watch it full Sir Geoffrey 27:13 was gold too.

 
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Nothing wrong with this but the ICC needs to be clear on what is and isn't allowed. If what Faf did is legal, then everyone should be using mints to assist swing. If what he did is illegal, then no one should be using sweets, gum, mints, etc.
 
Has done it more than once, should be banned for life.

It's obvious now that SA use all kinds of ball tampering from zips to sweets to ensure they gain reverse movement with the ball.
 
November 2013

Du Plessis denied he was trying to cheat, writing "that's not the kind of person I am." However, he says "I'll be the first to admit that I was working it far too close to my zip."

Du Plessis was fined half his match fee after being caught on TV working the ball over the pocket zip, a punishment criticized by Pakistan officials as too lenient.
 
Of course he did it deliberately but it happens at every level of cricket.

I'm fine with using lollies and mints with your saliva.

Rubbing the lollie directly onto the ball would be a different matter
 
soso_killer said:
Mate, players do that all the time.
Even use hair gels to try an shine the ball, is the ICC doing anything to stop players from moisturising their hair? I don't think so.
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Faf has been caught before, if proven guilty he will only get a one match ban so you should be glad he's not being punished more harshly.
 
So glossy saliva IS the secret of performing overseas!
 
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Chrish said:
So glossy saliva IS the secret of performing overseas!
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Saliva mixed with sugar from sweets/lollies/candy keeps one side of the ball very smooth for reverse swing purposes, while the other side is thrown into the dirt (or scratched) to roughen it up.

I think Amla was incensed that the Aussie media is much less deferential than the South African one. Mind you, Australia are probably up there with India as the two countries who "work" the old ball the most currently.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Now there is footage of Warner applying some lip-balm while on the field and after a couple of minutes he is 'shining' the ball... there is really nothing to this unless ICC is going to ban all substances, sweets etc. (which I reckon would be a bit over the top) on the field.

The way Faf was doing it just made it a tad obvious though. Players generally don't put their whole finger in their mouth in the deliberate manner he was doing it.
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can you confirm this?
If so, what's the ICC doing about it?
 
Statement from Dr Mohammed Moosajee on Adelaide Airport incident


The Australian media and Channel 9 News in particular have been advised on numerous occasions over the past few days that Cricket South Africa and captain, Faf du Plessis, are not in a position to comment on the alleged ball tampering issue.

However, despite our best to intentions to co-operate with the Australian media, Channel 9 News’ behaviour has been disappointing. We have advised of our media protocol which has been blatantly ignored, both at the team’s hotel in Melbourne on Friday and Saturday and again at the airport in Adelaide today.

This is the third incident of a reporter aggressively harassing our players with blatant disrespect of the above-mentioned media protocol.

The ‘reporter’ at the airport disrespected us and continued to harass Faf for comment. The ‘reporter’ was also in the unusual position of being in the middle of the players’ walkway to the bus. He was advised to move three times, and did not adhere to this request. The ‘reporter’, who also had no official accreditation, then proceeded to lunge towards Faf with an unknown object causing a direct breach of security protocol. The reporter also shoved the team manager in the back.

Throughout the tour we have respected all our media obligations and treated media with the utmost respect. At the same time, we would like to see this respect reciprocated and will not accept such behaviour as displayed by the Channel 9 News reporter.
 
Wow South Africa not happy but reporters doing their job; same thing happens to all public personalities, why should Faf be immune to that?
 
MenInG said:
Wow South Africa not happy but reporters doing their job; same thing happens to all public personalities, why should Faf be immune to that?
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[MENTION=8]MIG[/MENTION] bhai I think there is a fine line being proactive and asking the tough questions with actual harassment which the reporter was doing by walking in the middle of the team and lunging up and down towards Faf, I've seen the footage and believe me it's not looking pretty for Channel 9.

There are security protocols in place as Faf is a celebrity and the security personnel in the right to separate him from the team.
 
MenInG said:
Wow South Africa not happy but reporters doing their job; same thing happens to all public personalities, why should Faf be immune to that?
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Maybe in Pakistan and Australia but where Faf comes from, reporters don't get up in the faces of players and shove team managers aside. The reporters were rightfully put in their place and the grin on Faf's face was hilarious.

Besides, this was nowhere close to what Pakistani players do to reporters invading their personal space.
 
Bilal7 said:
Maybe in Pakistan and Australia but where Faf comes from, reporters don't get up in the faces of players and shove team managers aside. The reporters were rightfully put in their place and the grin on Faf's face was hilarious.

Besides, this was nowhere close to what Pakistani players do to reporters invading their personal space.
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Also in USA UK France etc
 
The reporter should sue the CSA for the way the team security official man handled the journalist.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
[MENTION=8]MIG[/MENTION] bhai I think there is a fine line being proactive and asking the tough questions with actual harassment which the reporter was doing by walking in the middle of the team and lunging up and down towards Faf, I've seen the footage and believe me it's not looking pretty for Channel 9.

There are security protocols in place as Faf is a celebrity and the security personnel in the right to separate him from the team.
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oh please, it isn't as if the reporter was coming up armed against Faf. Before the reporter even went near the Protea's skipper, the security official kept pushing the reporter away.
 
Major said:
oh please, it isn't as if the reporter was coming up armed against Faf. Before the reporter even went near the Protea's skipper, the security official kept pushing the reporter away.
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The security personnel are well within their rights to make sure that THE CELEBRITY does not get involved in any unforeseen incident and him shoving that harassing reporter was just the guy doing his job !!

Read Amla's response on social media regarding the said incident and other media statements of folks who were around at the scene of the incident. No one is blaming the security personnel, Faf or anyone of the South Africans, while everyone is condemning the actions of the Channel 9 representative. It was clearly the fault of the reporter and that is why Channel 9 themselves are quite on the matter.

Had it been the other way around, Australia would've thrown a tantrum up until right now and would have probably involved ICC/BCCI/WACA and a dozen other cricketing bodies.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
The security personnel are well within their rights to make sure that THE CELEBRITY does not get involved in any unforeseen incident and him shoving that harassing reporter was just the guy doing his job !!

Read Amla's response on social media regarding the said incident and other media statements of folks who were around at the scene of the incident. No one is blaming the security personnel, Faf or anyone of the South Africans, while everyone is condemning the actions of the Channel 9 representative. It was clearly the fault of the reporter and that is why Channel 9 themselves are quite on the matter.

Had it been the other way around, Australia would've thrown a tantrum up until right now and would have probably involved ICC/BCCI/WACA and a dozen other cricketing bodies.
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Amla is acting like a fool, simple as that.

Faf is the guilty party here, and please don't use the argument of other way around.

The reporter did nothing wrong, infact he was pushed away by the security official which was wrong. A reporter is well in his rights to ask a question from someone. The reporter harassed no one, infact he was harassed.

and again, he was a journalist, don't think terrorists these days carry around with themselves a mic in hand
 
I suppose people have not seen famous celebrities being asked awkward questions on TV before.

Cricketers are nothing special.
 
MenInG said:
I suppose people have not seen famous celebrities being asked awkward questions on TV before.

Cricketers are nothing special.
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Do you think this criticism is here for asking tough questions on TV?
 
Buffet said:
Do you think this criticism is here for asking tough questions on TV?
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its for trying to embarrass him on TV. The SA security guy fell for it and Aus TV got what they wanted.

Smart move would have been to speak to the guy and say I have nothing to say as I am bound by protocols.
 
jeetu said:
Statement from Dr Mohammed Moosajee on Adelaide Airport incident


The Australian media and Channel 9 News in particular have been advised on numerous occasions over the past few days that Cricket South Africa and captain, Faf du Plessis, are not in a position to comment on the alleged ball tampering issue.

However, despite our best to intentions to co-operate with the Australian media, Channel 9 News’ behaviour has been disappointing. We have advised of our media protocol which has been blatantly ignored, both at the team’s hotel in Melbourne on Friday and Saturday and again at the airport in Adelaide today.

This is the third incident of a reporter aggressively harassing our players with blatant disrespect of the above-mentioned media protocol.

The ‘reporter’ at the airport disrespected us and continued to harass Faf for comment. The ‘reporter’ was also in the unusual position of being in the middle of the players’ walkway to the bus. He was advised to move three times, and did not adhere to this request. The ‘reporter’, who also had no official accreditation, then proceeded to lunge towards Faf with an unknown object causing a direct breach of security protocol. The reporter also shoved the team manager in the back.

Throughout the tour we have respected all our media obligations and treated media with the utmost respect. At the same time, we would like to see this respect reciprocated and will not accept such behaviour as displayed by the Channel 9 News reporter.
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Wow, that's really disgusting behavior from the Australian media.
Their weak and spineless team has lost 7 internationals in a row and 5 consecutive Test defeats, surely that should dominate the headlines.
But hey, let's talk saliva.

I just saw the footage, the reporter literally assaulted the team doctor. Really thuggish behavior. I'd personally lay charges
 
Thing is this guy is a serial offender. Got away way too easy in the UAE, where he was seriously giving it a rub on the zipper, ICC let him off easy and now he is giving the ball a nice peppermint pat down as well. Definitely needs to be given 1 match if not 2 match suspension. Nobody else is getting themselves into these ball issues.

Next time he will rub the candy on the ball and then say it was to make it sweeter.
 
Andy Pycroft of the Emirates Elite Panel of ICC Match Referees held a preliminary hearing on Monday and heard the submissions of the parties as regards when the hearing in relation to the charge laid against South Africa captain Faf du Plessis should take place.

Following the preliminary hearing, Mr Pycroft has determined that, in the interests of expediency and in order to protect the integrity of the Adelaide Test, the hearing will take place on Tuesday, 22 November 2016, at 15h30 pm (Adelaide time) at the Adelaide Oval.

Du Plessis has been charged for breaching Article 2.2.9 of the ICC Code of Conduct after television footage appeared to show him applying an artificial substance to the ball during the fourth day’s play in the second Test against Australia in Hobart.
 
MenInG said:
No - I mean live with it and dont act so surprised and hurt if it happens.
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The bottom line is this is deplorable, SA players and management don't have to live with anything.
This being a norm in the Western world doesn't make it ok.
 
He's lucky not to get a real punishment, this serial cheat should not be allowed to play cricket for 1-2 years, maybe then he'll learn.
 
Who wants a bet that Faf will get a trivial punishment, if any at all?

I am sorry Faf and team SA but some of us aren't stupid enough to fall for your excuses. Faf was clearly putting his fingers in his mouth, rubbing them against the mint and then rubbing them against the ball. Come on Amla, stop pretending in a ridiculous press conference that a bunch of international cricketers had absolutely no idea that applying an artificial substance to a ball could be wrong. Ask anyone with common sense and they'll tell you that much. So stop this rubbish of "oh, is that a tactic" and "oh, what's this ball tampering you speak of".

The SA tactic is to scream and shout and heap so much pressure on the ICC that they will effectively have to let Faf go with a petty little fine at most.
 
Just saw the footage for the first time.

I'm fine with using lollies to sweaten saliva - its been happening at every level cricket has been played for centuries.

We all know what happened there.

But man that was blatant. Faf broke the cardinal rule - no plausible deniability.
 
soso_killer said:
Wow, that's really disgusting behavior from the Australian media.
Their weak and spineless team has lost 7 internationals in a row and 5 consecutive Test defeats, surely that should dominate the headlines.
But hey, let's talk saliva.

I just saw the footage, the reporter literally assaulted the team doctor. Really thuggish behavior. I'd personally lay charges
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Interesting how all the South Africans and the South African team want to keep on bringing up the red herring that it is an Australian excuse for losing.

Guess Clarke hurt some feeelings when he pointed out that South Africa happen to get caught ball tampering a lot.

And that sledge was too personal and hurtful for the poor widdle Saffers - who happen to get caught ball tampering far more than everyone else.

The way you're acting, questing Faf is like shooting bambi and not questioning a bloke who deliberately had a pair of cricket whites made with zippers in the pockets and then used said zippers to tamper with a ball
 
Faf is a repeat offender and needs to be banned if the ICC wants to take ball tampering seriously.

The conduct of their team in the media since the video came out has been nothing short of thuggish and trying to make a lot of noise to sweep it under the carpet.
 
That sadly looked blatant but since Saffers are playing against Aussies who imo have never really played with "spirit of the game" nonsense guessing Faf will get more support from neutrals.But that was defn loly being applied on the ball.
 
Latest Update : Proteas captain Faf Du Plessis’ hearing with regards to alleged ball tampering is currently underway in Adelaide.
 
Basically any fine or ban is confirmation of guilt

So from a SA pov no other outcome other than total exoneration is needed
 
David Warner welcomes ball-tampering charges laid against Faf du Plessis

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricke...tampering-charges-laid-against-faf-du-plessis

Australian vice-captain David Warner has welcomed the International Cricket Council's decision to lay ball-tampering charges against South Africa skipper Faf du Plessis.

Du Plessis, who has pleaded not guilty, will front an ICC hearing on Tuesday in Adelaide (6pm NZT) in a bid to clear his name and play in the third test starting on Thursday.

The South Africans are furious their leader has been reported after footage emerged last week of du Plessis applying saliva to the ball with a lolly in his mouth.

Their indignation was evident on Monday when a journalist attempting to quiz du Plessis was manhandled by their head of security at Adelaide Airport.

While Cricket Australia have distanced themselves from the ball-tampering saga, Warner weighed into the issue on Tuesday.

"The rules are in place for a reason - if you're not going to use them why bother having them?" Warner said.

"That's the fortunate things these days. They've got their rules and they'll stand by these decisions. I think that's a good thing.

"We've all been on the back end of them from time to time. Now they're cracking down on it, with the points system, we as players know the guidelines now."

"If you're going to overstep that mark and you get fined be prepared to miss test matches as well."

Warner accepts his team has been comprehensively outplayed by the Proteas - who lead the three-test series 2-0 - but has not been impressed by their behaviour.

"I know from an Australian cricket perspective we hold our heads high. I'd be very disappointed if one of our team members did that and how they were reacting," Warner said.

Du Plessis can be fined 50 to 100 per cent of his match fee and/or handed two suspension points and four demerit points.

Two suspension points warrants a suspension of one test, as does four demerit points but the bans can be served concurrently.
 
So SA fans are squirming because Saint du Plessis got harassed. :))

He fully deserves this and ICC should grow some cojones and deal with this serial offender sternly. The fact that every team does it so it is not illegal is the weakest excuse anyone can come up with.

Yes everyone does it, but you either get away with it or you don't. He didn't.
 
Mamoon said:
So SA fans are squirming because Saint du Plessis got harassed. :))

He fully deserves this and ICC should grow some cojones and deal with this serial offender sternly. The fact that every team does it so it is not illegal is the weakest excuse anyone can come up with.

Yes everyone does it, but you either get away with it or you don't. He didn't.
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If every team does it, it makes Amla's confusion very odd.
 
Convict said:
If every team does it, it makes Amla's confusion very odd.
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It does, and the victim mentality that the SA players and fans have adopted in this case as well as delegating the blame to Australia and all this excuses talk is plain ridiculous.
 
Whether or not Faf is guilty (he probably is), doesn't excuse the Australian media behaviour.

It was Channel 9 who brought the "lolly footage" out. It was Channel 9's "reporter" who harassed the team.

"This is the third incident of a reporter aggressively harassing our players with blatant disrespect of the above-mentioned media protocol," said the statement.

"The 'reporter' at the airport disrespected us and continued to harass Faf for comment. The 'reporter' was also in the unusual position of being in the middle of the players' walkway to the bus."

"He was advised to move three times, and did not adhere to this request. The 'reporter', who also had no official accreditation, then proceeded to lunge towards Faf with an unknown object causing a direct breach of security protocol."

The fact that they continue with this behaviour is the problem.
 
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