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Faheem Ashraf vs Aamer Yamin - Who do we need?

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^ Which one of these do you think fits into our plans for the future e.g. 2019 World Cup better?
 
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Both are rlly good prospects. Rlly tough to say who's better. I wanna see both of them playing as much cricket as possible in the next 1-2 years so we can decide who is better by the time world cup is played.
 
Yamin is too old and too short.

Ashraf's bowling action is a complete joke.

Whatever the question is, they are not the answer.
 
Very difficult question. Ashraf has impressed so far in that warm up game against Bangladesh and v Sri Lanka. Yamin shouldn't be discarded. They should both be in the squads and I guess time will tell who is better. No reason why they can't play together though. Woakes and Stokes play together (they are much better than Ashraf and Yamin without a doubt but still play similar roles as them) so if conditions allow these two could both be in the 11; probably not in Asia though.
 
Based on current resources, both.
 
Neither! They are too short and too slow to be a backup bowler. Unless they are spectacular batting talents which I cannot comment on
 
fahim..reasons.1> he is lefty with the bat ..2 he is a hard hitter.4 he has good pace..5,,,he is young..
 
Have to use one for ODIs and another for T20Is
i would like to have fahim for ODI's and yamin for T20Is
 
Fahims hitting ability means he is a must for T20s. Yamin is good bat but more conventional so maybe if selected would need to bat up the order. The only people I can see him replace based on conditions is Malik or Hafeez. He is tho a better bowler than Fahim Ashraf. Fahim really needs to improve his bowling to stake a claim to the ODI team.
 
Hussain Talat. His batting is much better than both of them imo. Bowling needs work.
 
fahim ashraf as he can provide role of finisher as well as bowl 6 to 8 overs per match whereas aamer yaamin can be used as opener
 
Aamer Yamin vs Faheem Ashraf

4 Ducks In Last 6 T20i Matches For Faheem He Have Get Many Chances But Not Perform In Single Match As Hitting Batsman Averaged 8 Not Good Record In Domestic Than Other All Rounders Get Palced In Team For Long Time On His Fluke Innings Against Bangladesh Warm Up Match CT If He Is Playing As Bowler Than Replace Him With Good Bowler Amir , Junaid Or Irfan..

Pakistan Need Proper 6 Batsman Than Allrounder In 7,8 Number Who Are Good Like Abdul Razzaq Or Shahid Afridi, Shadab Is Good Batsman But Need Learn To Become A Good Hitter Otherwise Kamran Ghulam Is There.

Amer Yamin Is Perfect Player Need To Replace With Faheem A Good Timer Of Ball We Have Seen Played Against Zimbabwe And New Zealand But Why He Is Not Slected After Performing In Every Match Not See Him Failed In Single Match Also Decent Prospect For Test In Last Match Against New Zealand A Take 3 For 22 In 10 Overs...

Amer Yamin Career

3 ODI Runs : 95 Average 95.00 SR: 99
(FC Runs:1565 Averaged: 35 SR 71 Hundred3 Fifty 7 Bowling Avg:24 Wickets 117)
(LA Runs:805 Average : 25 SR:98 Bowling Avg:32 Wickets 70)

Faheem Batting Averaged 11 SR:120 In T20i 13 In ODI SR:74 Average:30 In Tests SR:60 Also Have Domestic Poor Reecords.
 
Faheem is a v v smart bowler..yesterday he had outfoxed Munroe only for Hafeez to drop the catch
 
Haha back then I wasn't too sure but now it's clear that Rana jee was the right investment.
 
Aamer Yamin was doing crazily good at the start of last season but his form has slipped away recently, so Faheem Ashraf is ahead.
 
Both should be in the starting line up.

7. Shadab
8. Faheem
9. yamin .

If there is some turn on offer , drop one of them for Imad .
 
He is an ordinary bowler but he has performed whenever he was given an opportunity unlike the golden boy Faheem Ashraf
 
Faheem has to get performing soon. If he doesn't perform until South Africa, get Yamin in for the Australia and England series'
 
I agree Fahim is becoming too comfortable with his spot in the team.

The more I see Faheem play, the more I think he is not suited to international cricket. Forget internationals, this guy hasn't even played a substantial knock in the PSL, apart from one 50 where his team had already pretty much lost.

People say a lot about Yamin, but in the little amount we've seen him, he can hit the ball well. Sure, his bowling is nowhere near Faheem's, but with Hafeez pretty much guaranteed to play from now, him and Yamin can share the 10 overs between them.
 
Yamin is a proper batsman while Faheem isnt. Faheem is on another level as a bowler though.
 
Yamin is a batsman who can bowl a bit. Faheem is a bowler who can bat a bit. Both are not good enough to be classed as all-rounders at this point of time. Team management believes they need a bowler who bats a bit, which is why Faheem plays.
 
Both are not that good although fahim is better than yamin. I think amad butt is better than these two.
 
Pakistan needs all-rounders who are better at batting.

Faheem is a glorified tail-ender and if Yamin is a better batsman, it is a no-brainer for me.

I don not care if Faheem is a better bowler - he is not special by any means, which is why it does not compensate for his useless batting.

I am losing patience with fake all-rounders like Faheem and Shadab. Their bowling is not great and they are fancy tail-enders - we will be better off by playing a specialist batsman instead of Faheem (who can be a part-time bowler) and a quality spinner instead of Shadab (who is not a complete mug with the bat).

I don’t know who can fill in the shoes for Faheem, and that is why I have to admit that Hafeez is indispensable under the current cimrcumstances and keeping the team combination in view.

As far as Shadab is concerned, I think someone like Gohar or perhaps Usama Mir will bring more value. Both are comfortably better spinners but the latter appears to be a tail-ender.

However, if we can replace Faheem with a batsman who can bowl, we can carry replace Shadab by a tail-ender but a better bowler.

Carrying both Faheem and Shadab weakens our already weak batting and lengthens our tail. In addition, having the legend Asif Ali play the Buttler role simply compounds the problem, and the Specialist Captain adds to our misery as well.

Our middle and lower-order is in complete shambles - it is an absolute circus. Our batting ends when we are 3-4 down.

Mickey’s obsession with all-rounders will eventually backfire. Such is our desperation with all-rounders at this point that anyone who can pick up a bat is labeled as one.

Fake all-rounders are luxury players and only strong batting lineups can carry them.
 
I have to agree.

Fake all-rounders everywhere.

From what I have seen, Yamin is not good enough with the bat either.

Another one of those who can hold a bat, yes, but pretend they can bat well. Like Faheem and Shadab.
 
i think amir yamin has to get a chance now as we are nearing a very important series in south africa both can be extremely handy in SA pitches as both of them are very capable of batting and good medium pacers
 
At this point, we don't need either of them. What we need is a genuine bowler who can take wickets. With Faheem, Yamin, Anwar Ali et al you are only hoping for a wicket. Not expecting a wicket.

Unfortunately, Pakistan has crossed the stage where our bowling used to win us matches in the ODI arena. Our bowling right now in ODIs is behind India, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand. Neither do we have match winning spinners nor do we have match winning fast bowlers. Hasan Ali is decent but has tapered off considerably since the CT17 win.

Pakistan desperately required a bowler. If we still look towards these fake all rounders like Shadab, Yamin, Faheem and Anwar Ali then we are not going to be progressing at all. Faheem and Yamin comes in at 7-8 to bat so if our top 6 batsmen are not doing the job 8 times out of 10 then you have a bigger problem on your hands than worrying about who's better at batting at the number 7 or number 8 position.
 
i think amir yamin has to get a chance now as we are nearing a very important series in south africa both can be extremely handy in SA pitches as both of them are very capable of batting and good medium pacers


Amer Yamin Career

3 ODI Runs : 95 Average 95.00 SR: 99

(FC Runs:1565 Averaged: 35 SR 71 Hundred3 Fifty 7 Bowling Avg:24 Wickets 117)

(LA Runs:805 Average : 25 SR:98 Bowling Avg:32 Wickets 70)

Amir Yameen Is Best Allrounder In Pakistan No One Match Him If He Given Run In Team Like Fake Allrounders Anwar Ali , Bilawal Bhatti , Sohail Tanvir And Faheem Ashraf
Hecomes One Of Top Icc Ranking All rounder Note It
 
even i believe amir yamin is better and he has played a crucial innings as well batting down at 7 or 8 against zimbabwe when we were in deep trouble and saved us from the embarassement

on the other hand faheem doesnt have a single notable innings and he is been with the team since 2 years
 
Domestic stats don't matter.

Will be similar to Faheem Shadab at international level.
 
Neither of them.should bring a batsman who can bowl a bit.That will be better idea.Fahim can only play t20i.
 
Good cameo by Yamin today. At the same time, good bowling by Faheem and his death bowling is really top notch.
 
Amir Yamin is a seriously underrated player. He is better bat than Fahim and his bowling looks improved too.
 
Yamin.
Faheem is only as good as a bowler/ Yamin's hitting ability is good. We already have many bowlers
 
Faheem is twice the bowler Amir is.

Amir is thrice the batsman Faheem is.

Take your pic.
 
We need a good hitter of the ball. So far faheem has been no better than a no. 10 with the bat in his international career. I am willing to see Yameen over Faheem.
 
Yamin should focus on becoming a proper batsman, with the ability to roll his arm over. He will do a better job at that, than that jaali "all-rounder" Hussain Talat.
 
I don't think Yamin is an all rounder. His bowling isn't harmful. His batting is dangerous.
 
We need an AR who can finish the innings well. Yamin can do they, Faheem cannot. That bring said, Yamin can only bowl 4-5 overs in an international game, but I'll take that since the AR needs to be able to finish the innings well.
 
I guess i will invest in Faheem atleast till WC now.

Yamin is clearly the better batsman but we have other batting allorounders like Saud Shakeel who are proper batsman and better than Yamin in batting. So unfortunately i dont see how Yamin can play a role.

Just make Faheem work on his batting for now.
 
We have actually seen to little of Yameen to make a good call. Though I am desperate and really fed up with Faheem and Shadab as our lower order hitters. Whike Shadab has delivered once in a while Faheem has been a waste.
 
I think in our T20 team we can fit Aamer Yamin

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail
4) Sarfaraz Ahmed
5) Umar Akmal
6) Shadab Khan
7) Aamer Yamin
8) Imad Wasim
9) Faheem Ashraf
10) Haris Rauf
11) Shaheen Shah Afridi

In my opinion we can win many matches with this team if we can somehow find an opener better than Fakhar aur Sharjeel comes back with a bang..
 
Fahim is a garbage batsman & Yamin is a garbage bowler. none of them is a reliable all-rounder
 
Fahim is a garbage batsman & Yamin is a garbage bowler. none of them is a reliable all-rounder

That's the problem. We are crying out for a seam bowling AR who can deliver at least 30/30 average with bat and ball. Abdul Razzaq was the last one.
 
Faheem is a decent bowler for domestic level and not a good batsman for any level. Never understood why he is labelled as an "allrounder". Amin is a good batman at domestic level and not a bowler for international level.
 
We are desperate for a medium pace all rounder. Faheem is the closest thing to that.

We could sacrifice him for full time bowler but our spin all rounders in Shadab and Imad are pretty avg with the bat.
 
The thing about Aamer Yamin is that he has a formidable power-hitting technique. When he hits the ball, it stays hit.
If had been given a sniff of the NT, he would have worked even more on his batting and improved his innings-building.
 
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