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Faheem Ashraf vs Mohammad Wasim Jr.: Who should Pakistan prefer?

I'm not a fan of either Faheem Ashraf or Mohammad Wasim jr but let me say something about Amir Jamal because you'd get the impression Richard Hadlee is sitting on the bench reading some of the hype here:

His List A economy rate is 6.88. In our last domestic 50 over competition - he went around the park with a bowling average of 61.42 at 8.11 an over !

None of these guys are particularly good. It also hurts our balance because without a quality seam bowling all-rounder - it's difficult playing a specialist spinner (unless you accept a long tail).
 
Cricket Warrior said:
well Faheem is not able to prove himself, he has now get several chances but still he hasn't grabbed any of them, so i think against SL match they should go for Muhammad Wasim or Usama Mir.
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Faheem is possibly the most talentless cricketer to have ever played limited overs cricket for Pak. Other one that comes to mind is Rafatullah mohmand.
 
Wasim jnr was trash again today, just a buffet bowler. Faheem isn't any better

Don't know why these fake all rounder / pie throwers are in the team
 
Amjid Javed said:
Wasim jnr was trash again today, just a buffet bowler. Faheem isn't any better

Don't know why these fake all rounder / pie throwers are in the team
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I think Faheem is a tad better. But neither should be in the squad. Wasim is a club cricket level I'm sure.
 
Both are mediocre and should be kept away from team unless they improve their bowling. One is a bowler who does not know how to bowl and second is a bowling allrounder who can not bowl.
 
They both were highly rated by Pakistani selectors and they brought them into the team every now and then, but their performance was nothing. Amir Jamal is an option to be looked at seriously.
 
DandyFellow said:
Both are mediocre and should be kept away from team unless they improve their bowling. One is a bowler who does not know how to bowl and second is a bowling allrounder who can not bowl.
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Wasim is a good option for t20 cricket but I don't think he's good enough to play ODI cricket at the moment. Faheem is a better option than him but again he seems to struggle at international level with his performance.
 
Faheem is definitely the better batsman despite of his horrible odi batting record, he has shown that he can bat in test matches.
Waseem is more of a slogger and even there he is a bit behind Naseem, I wont really count him as an allrounder.

Waseem is faster, more skilled than Faheem but he releases pressure a lot of times, Faheem is better at that.

In any scenario , Wasim Jnr should not play as a frontline bowler, Hassan Ali is better than him and has won Pakistan a tourney once upon a time.
 
Babar Azam doesn’t know the art of developing a fast bowling all rounder

Clear sign of limited vision
 
Faheem Ashraf would have been a better choice than Wasim for the World Cup. At least he can contribute with his batting and he's a much more capable bowler than Wasim Jr.
 
Bewal Express said:
Neither- 2 poor choices, neither international quality
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yes indeed but what are the available options we have in the pool right now?

It was better to go with this latha player Faheen Stokes Ashraf in place of Waseem Jr, atleast he can slog some later down the order. He is not the one who can bowl in death overs but yeah good enough to bowl with new ball.
 
What do u say guys! for this T20 World Cup whom should be selected as the fast bowling all-rounder?

I will prefer Wasim because he can hit aqually good as faheem does but he is also a better death bowler.
 
I like Mohammad Wasim Jr. but if he wants to be a useful all rounder for Pakistan he has to take another step up with his batting.

His bowling is solid, particularly his death bowling. He bowls with pace, he does need a bit more consistency though.
 
It still makes me chuckle how people claimed this guy was superior to Pandya.
 
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Faheem has been poor in this PSL. Wasim should be the number 1 choice because he has been neglected where he should have been playing instead. Just the batting factor needs a bit of improvement, rest is fine.
 
RidiculousMan said:
His best knock for Pakistan came even before his debut in that CT17 warm up game against Bangladesh.
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And he played for Pakistan for so long on the basis of just that game, the Warmup game. LOL. Wasim should be invested in now, he is doing better than faheem atm.
 
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Wasim is a better bowler but if we are comparing them as all rounders then both of them are poor.

Faheem has hit a couple of knocks in domestic with the bat that Wasim hasn't.

Wasim was presented as an all-rounder but his batting is less than Shaheen and Naseem.
 
Faheem' bowling is not at all effective but he can be a handy batsman in Asian conditions in test matches only

Wasim Jnr is a decent bowler but his batting is zero. Wasim should be tried only as a bowler as Pakistan can't rely only on Shaheen, Haris & Naseem
 
The issue is the PCB has not been able to develop promising players. Bilwal Bhatti , Abid Ali , Hamad Azam , etc could have been developed. If not great but at least solid batting or bowling all rounders.

If you want to develop players you have to play them in real games. For example bowl Saim / fakhar 3 - 5 games every game. Send Md Wasim / Fahim up the order at 4 - 6 in few games.

Unless you give them a go in real games , you cannot develop them in net
 
shamaan said:
Should have always been Wasim Jnr in the first place.
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not in favour of Wasim either because this guy is not a proper all rounder.. he can just smack few deliveries at the end of the inning but u cant realy rely on him to finish any game with the bat... we need a genuine all rounder which unfortunately Pakistan doesnt have any.
 
as a bowler wasim>>>>>>naseem,rouf and hasnain.
Cricket Warrior said:
not in favour of Wasim either because this guy is not a proper all rounder.. he can just smack few deliveries at the end of the inning but u cant realy rely on him to finish any game with the bat... we need a genuine all rounder which unfortunately Pakistan doesnt have any.
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Justcrazy said:
The issue is the PCB has not been able to develop promising players. Bilwal Bhatti , Abid Ali , Hamad Azam , etc could have been developed. If not great but at least solid batting or bowling all rounders.

If you want to develop players you have to play them in real games. For example bowl Saim / fakhar 3 - 5 games every game. Send Md Wasim / Fahim up the order at 4 - 6 in few games.

Unless you give them a go in real games , you cannot develop them in net
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Shadab started batting up the order in psl and everyone raised questions.
But imo shadab nawaz faheem shaheen abbas should always but in 3 4 5 position in some matches to better their skills as a batsman
 
Hyder said:
Shadab started batting up the order in psl and everyone raised questions.
But imo shadab nawaz faheem shaheen abbas should always but in 3 4 5 position in some matches to better their skills as a batsman
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But imo shadab nawaz faheem shaheen abbas should always but in 3 4 5 position

what? No 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Worst suggestion possible. All 5 are tail enders? Even if you're talking about PSL, it'll ruin any chance for young Pakistani players to develop even if they only develop incrementally in a low tier league.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
not in favour of Wasim either because this guy is not a proper all rounder.. he can just smack few deliveries at the end of the inning but u cant realy rely on him to finish any game with the bat... we need a genuine all rounder which unfortunately Pakistan doesnt have any.
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Exactly pakistan dosent have a genuine all rounder so if are to pick someone it has to be wasim atleast hes a good bowler and very good fielder.
 
Faheem is a genuine allrounder at PSL level. Wasim is a better international bowler and player, but I don’t think it’s a proper allrounder even at domestic/PSL level.

I think when Faheem has been internationals he’s been an absolute passenger. Not trusted to bowl full overs, and bats at 8. Not sure the point.

So yeah I’d take Wasim over him. Abbas Afridi too. And I think I’d have taken both of those over Hasnain and Faheem.

But we simply don’t have great allrounders. I think it has been extremely frustrating that from PSL the only fast bowling allrounder that I’ve seen do well consistently has been Faheem. And especially for a tournament, international performance is better and then PSL. But people quoting guys that do a bit in domestic, it’s not really high enough level to really take seriously yet, those guys need to be tested in internationals or PSL to make a proper judgment.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Waseem Jr was much better option than Faheem, who got selected by thin air magic
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actually example of waseem is similar like "andhon main kana raja" he is also a latha player but yeah if we talk about Lord Faheem so yeah Waseem Jr is a bradman lol
 
Hyder said:
Shadab started batting up the order in psl and everyone raised questions.
But imo shadab nawaz faheem shaheen abbas should always but in 3 4 5 position in some matches to better their skills as a batsman
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As a selector you need to see how you want shadab to be played. As a batting or bowling allrounder. And then take it from there.

pCB is worst as far as developing multi skills of players.
 
mominsaigol said:
But imo shadab nawaz faheem shaheen abbas should always but in 3 4 5 position

what? No 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Worst suggestion possible. All 5 are tail enders? Even if you're talking about PSL, it'll ruin any chance for young Pakistani players to develop even if they only develop incrementally in a low tier league.
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Ashwin opens in domestics so does willey and others. Domestics are a chance to polish their skills when they are in central contract already. You may disagree but thats my opinion
 
Wasim should have been preferred. He was a top bolwer in 2023 WC..
 
Hyder said:
No he is not better than rauf. Rauf often gets smacked but has contributed to our victories way more than others
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Rauf has got golden boy treatment by PCB and media even though he was horrible in 2021 WC, 2022 WC and 2023 WC, Asia cups. Yes, he performed well in last 2 ODI series (SA & AUS) in those conditions but am still not confident if he will perform in local conditions. On the other side Wasim Jnr never got consistent chances despite sitting on bench for many years. He played last 4 games in 2023 WC in which he performed better than others and after that he was dropped. In case of Wasim, management has adopted "Use & Throw" approach
 
Wasim Jr is actually a bowler whereas Faheem is a trundler, Wasim has wicket taking abilities while Faheem is your stop gap for couple of overs
 
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عاقب جاوید نے فہیم اشرف کی اسکواڈ میں شمولیت پر وضاحت دےدی

پاکستان کرکٹ ٹیم کے عبوری ہیڈ کوچ عاقب جاوید نے فہیم اشرف کو قومی اسکواڈ میں شامل کرنے کی وضاحت دیدی۔
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Aqib Javed explained the logic behind Faheem inclusion that he is a pace allrounder and that pitches in Pakistan are different to Aus & SA. The selection is based on making the right combination so Khusdil also comes in due to Saim' injury and that lone spinner is enough as we have allrounders.

So it's 3-3-3-1 from Aqib basically

--------------------Rizwan

Babar Saud Fakhar

Agha Khusdil Faheem

Rauf SSA Naseem
-----------------Abrar
 
Wasim had a fantastic World Cup but he had to be dropped later due to injury, Now he should have been the front-runner to make a comeback instead of Faheem...crazy choice to select Faheem out of nowhere.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Wasim had a fantastic World Cup but he had to be dropped later due to injury, Now he should have been the front-runner to make a comeback instead of Faheem...crazy choice to select Faheem out of nowhere.
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Yes, no question about that. Only thing Wasim lacks is a parchi.
 
The ideal sifarshi he is gets into Pakistan team and now sneaks into Quetta playing XI , but some posters will still find reason in it
 
What a dilemma - it's like asking do you want to be hit by a bus or hacked to death ?

It's been over a decade since Abdul Razzaq retired and we cannot produce one half-decent seam bowling AR.
 
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