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Following Pakistan’s performance vs India, what weaknesses need to be addressed?

Theo_14

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No excuses, Pakistan’s team were better on paper and momentum was on their side. However, reality is, we all got a reality check that Pakistan although heading to the right direction, still require a lot of improvement to be even condsidered as a threat for the upcoming World cup.

My main concerns are:

- Sarfraz our captain averaging 15 with the bat since 2007 CT.
- No intention to groom a back up wicket-keeper.
- Imam Ul Haq failing to deliver in a big match that really mattered.
- Mohammed Amir struggling ever since his comeback.
- No real spinner developed other than Shadab to support or provide competition.

What weaknesses do you think need to be addressed?
 
Take a look at all the wickets that fell today and you'll see that they weren't able to handle the pressure and got impatient most of the time.
 
Nothing, besides Imam-ul-haq. Bad day at the office. Imam is not an LOI player and should not be unfairly made into one.
 
they kept on saying that we will take it as just a game. I think it is a good learning experience for guys like shadab fahim fakhar and hasan ali to face some failure as well now
 
Well, they can forget about hypotheticals of Kohli missing
 
No excuses, Pakistan’s team were better on paper and momentum was on their side. However, reality is, we all got a reality check that Pakistan although heading to the right direction, still require a lot of improvement to be even condsidered as a threat for the upcoming World cup.

My main concerns are:

- Sarfraz our captain averaging 15 with the bat since 2007 CT.
- No intention to groom a back up wicket-keeper.
- Imam Ul Haq failing to deliver in a big match that really mattered.
- Mohammed Amir struggling ever since his comeback.
- No real spinner developed other than Shadab to support or provide competition.

What weaknesses do you think need to be addressed?

Mohammed amir hasn’t bowled yet? Your title says following this match?

It’s obvious the poor shot selection plus the extra pressure they have taken on. Our middle order is not strong enough. Safraz needs to come in at 6 and we need another 2 specialist batsmen.
 
The problem with the Pakistani team is that they just don't play consistently enough against the big boys.

Playing against low level minnows gives a false sense of security and leads to bad investments in soft minnow bashing players
 
Mohammed amir hasn’t bowled yet? Your title says following this match?

Yes but in general it would be relevant to mention general concerns. Amir has been very inconsistent regardless of how he does today & that’s a fact.
 
Bobs
FZ
Haris
Sarfraz
Asif Ali
Faheem
Shadab
Bilal Asif
Gohar
Amir
Hasan
 
Fakhr
Shaan
Babar
Malik
Harris
Sarfraz
Shadhab
Faheem
Amir
Hasan
Usman

can we fly in a spinner like Mohammad Nawaz?
 
Haris needs to come in looks like it. And in general need more solid batters in top 4. I don't think Malik is good enough to bat against pace in the top 4, I'd even prefer Sarfraz over him.

I know Sarfraz isn't doing great but think he'll come good eventually. No.5 has worked for him he averages over 50 there. So keep playing him there.

I think while Faheem did well comparatively, still by the time he was in, Pakistan was on the ropes. He felt like part of the tail. And he batted like one with under 50 SR. With our weaker batting line up, we need a 7 who can bat, and hence Faheem if he's in the team, needs to bat at 7 and make it his own. Otherwise he's just being carried with no role.

I'd personally play Haris in the top 4, make Malik bat 6 or 7 (and hence Asif Ali bats 6 or 7 depending on where Malik bats). Keep Sarfraz at 5. Drop Faheem for now. Tempted to drop Imam too, but not quite sure what I expect from Masood. I know his domestic numbers are fantastic, but from what I saw in the test arena I'm not filled with hope. Hopefully with Haris and Babar both in the top 4, there will be enough a platform for the weaker technique batsmen to cash in.
 
Just a bad day guys.. I think having a day like this in the tournament is better sooner than later
 
Bobs
FZ
Haris
Sarfraz
Asif Ali
Faheem
Shadab
Bilal Asif
Gohar
Amir
Hasan

The batting is thin. Playing hitters/allrounders from #5 all the way to #9 is never the right alternative, unless you have the quality of allrounders that England possess.
 
Misjudged the wickets actually....it was a slow wicket and difficult tomhit your shots ....250 would have been great here but they probably were trying to go for 300 and that's where they lost the plot !
 
The batting is thin. Playing hitters/allrounders from #5 all the way to #9 is never the right alternative, unless you have the quality of allrounders that England possess.

You don’t need to bat slow but grind it out.

And better to have all-rounders who can offer you 20-25 runs than a middle-order batsman who scores > 50.
 
Pakistan basically have 1 proper batsman - babar azam.
Malik is useful in these conditions and particularly against india.
Rest are hacks.
 
Its always the batting who is the culprit most of our case!!!! Our batsmen fail even again Prasad. So nothing surprise. Quality of our batting is way too low.
 
babar azam is too slow for modern ODI.

Saved PCT from a sure shot loss today, but yes he is not MODERN DAY batsman although he is doing his role perfectly calming Pakistani batsmen's nerves.

He and Fakhar Zaman have really changed the way PCT does things.
 
Saved PCT from a sure shot loss today, but yes he is not MODERN DAY batsman although he is doing his role perfectly calming Pakistani batsmen's nerves.

He and Fakhar Zaman have really changed the way PCT does things.

He can save from embarrassing defeats or he can consolidate on foundation laid by others but he doesn't look like the type of batsman whose presence will threaten the opposition. Fakhar is opposite. But both can't bat together. I don't see any type of synchronization that can be made.
 
they just have to take personal responsibility

Imam aside I dont think this is a bad squad, though i do wish zafar was here, but bowling isnt the issue

Sarfraz needs to sort himself out
 
He can save from embarrassing defeats or he can consolidate on foundation laid by others but he doesn't look like the type of batsman whose presence will threaten the opposition. Fakhar is opposite. But both can't bat together. I don't see any type of synchronization that can be made.

They don't have to, Sehwag and Dravid played in the same team and it was good.

PCT is lucky they found these two, they are a bowling strong team they jus need these kind of batsmens who play like this.

I only think Sarfaraz batting is a big issue!
 
Open with sarfraz
Injure imam in training so we can call in mukhtar ahmed as an injury replacement
Drop faheem and bring in nawaz
Replace shinwari with Junaid
 
Well for starters drop Imam if he has a poor tournament, he bats way too slow and puts pressure on the other batsmen, he is basically a left handed Azhar Ali. Pak should open with Babar and Fakhar, Harris at 3 and Saud Shakeel at 4. Malik should either play at 6 or not play at all because he isn’t good enough against the top teams. Hussain Talat should be in the squad fighting for the number 6 slot with Malk, Hafeez, Asif Ali. In Asia play with an extra spinner in Zafar Gohar or Raza Hasan.
 
Sarfaraz should not be batting at number 5 - he is not a batsman who has the skills to bat in that position.

The problem is that if you play with a lot of all-rounders, when you lose early wickets you are more often than not going to struggle.
 
Wow! Some pakistan are really blind. Its a bad day? So last time we played a non minnow was when we played new zealand and we lost 5-0 was that a bad week?

Beating likes of zimbabwe and hong kong and to many fans get carried away.

Indias bowlers bowl with discapline and the pressure caused out batsmen to bottle it. Usual issues of playing to many dot balls. 47 in the 1st 10 its pathetic, you cant let bowlers settle into rythme, rotate strike for god sake, add to that plsyers trying to plsy forceful shots at wrong part of inns and using no game intelligence. Pakistan will have to improve alot to compete in next years world cip with such a long format to be played.
 
No excuses, Pakistan’s team were better on paper and momentum was on their side. However, reality is, we all got a reality check that Pakistan although heading to the right direction, still require a lot of improvement to be even condsidered as a threat for the upcoming World cup.

My main concerns are:

- Sarfraz our captain averaging 15 with the bat since 2007 CT.
- No intention to groom a back up wicket-keeper.
- Imam Ul Haq failing to deliver in a big match that really mattered.
- Mohammed Amir struggling ever since his comeback.
- No real spinner developed other than Shadab to support or provide competition.

What weaknesses do you think need to be addressed?

Number 1.4.6 batting positions are a huge question mark

Imam,Malik and Asif Ali might need to be replaced and we have lots of odis coming up that will help us shape our team before the WC
 
There is quiet a few weaknesses.

Amir for a start is a major weakness if your strike bowler isn't doing nothing for last 10 games then you will have serious issues. Drop amir bring in Shaheen.

Shenwari doesnt really suit these pitches either drop him for a spinner.

Spinning slow uae tracks and we have only one specialist spinner whose great idea was that? Bring in nawaz don't have a choice he's he only spinner in sqaud barring shadab.

Drop Asif as sloggers are not required on these pitches and bring in Harris we need batman who can stay on the crease and play low risk shots.

Safraz needs a good hiding for his poor batting attitude what kind of example are you setting for other batsman to follow. He has thrown his wicket away far too many times like this and can't keep hiding behind his captaincy.

Have to play sensibly with the bat just like India today and Hong Kong openerd showed rotate the strike wait for bad balls once bowlers tire in this heat runs will flow. Only Babar and shenwari got out to decent balls the rest out to mindless slogs.
 
Sarfaraz
Imam
Mallik to be kicked out

Bring a wicket keeper batsman who can open the innings with fakhar.

1. Fakhar (C)
2. 2nd opener (Wk)
3. Babar
4. Harris
5. Talat
6. Asif ali
7. Shadab
8. Zafar
9. Hasan Ali
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Usman shinwari
 
What weakness? This new and improved Pakistan team should go back to playing matches against Zimbabwe, Scotland, West Indies and Sri Lanka to remind us how good they are.
 
I've been saying this ever since the Pak squad was announced. You guys messed up with going with only 1 spinner.

If Shadab is not fit for the next match against Afg, you guys might just have another "bad day in the office" coming up.
 
They are a better side than what we saw today, but a level below the very best.

Sarfraz Ahmed needs to focus more on his batting than yelling.

Why on earth is Haris not in this team? His bowling alone should be enough and you need a batsman like him in these conditions.

Mohammad Aamir is also a big concern.
 
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