India (271/5) defeat New Zealand (225) by 46 runs in final T20I to win series 4-1

[RedwoodOriginal]

Ishan Kishan ensured that its light out for Sanju Samson. Saved his best for last.

 

[sweep_shot]

Debatable. What’s not debatable is that both teams will do better than Bangladesh in the coming T20 World Cup. Hehe

Let's stick to topic. Topic is India vs New Zealand.

Let's acknowledge NZ's superiority over India in ODI and Test. Let's also acknowledge Bumrah and Axar should be tested.

 

[globetrotter]

All those catches taken by Indian players were actually sixes..... Jay shah slowed down ball speed by remote control control

 

[BreadPakoda]

Sopt fixed? But who is gonna check?

Justice Qayyum?


But seriously, I know it seems unbelievable but even the best in the biz can get tonked once in a while.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Mitchel should bat higher up? I think NZ have all the ingredients, just need to make some tweaks.

 

[CricVet]

Justice Qayyum?


But seriously, I know it seems unbelievable but even the best in the biz can get tonked once in a while.

I know you lack cricketing IQ...I knoooww. But Why Pandya did not stop the boundary? There is no niggle, so don't hide behind it.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Debatable. What’s not debatable is that both teams will do better than Bangladesh in the coming T20 World Cup. Hehe

The only debatable thing here is your ability to debate. You keep dragging in off-topic stuff to soothe the pain, lol.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

You cannot be consistent with stand and swing approach in India. Also he clearly has struggles against fast and short balls. He looked out of place.

This is a poor excuse. He may have a couple of weaknesses but that's pretty much every player in this format.

He's far better than you are giving him credit for.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Justice Qayyum?


But seriously, I know it seems unbelievable but even the best in the biz can get tonked once in a while.

INdiia blasted every team like this whenever GIll was not part of this set up lol

 

[jnaveen1980]

This is a poor excuse. He may have a couple of weaknesses but that's pretty much every player in this format.

He's far better than you are giving him credit for.

India bowled poorly. Someone with zero feet movement shouldn't be getting away like this.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

You cannot be consistent with stand and swing approach in India. Also he clearly has struggles against fast and short balls. He looked out of place.

I don't think he struggles against the short ball. He plays for Perth Scorchers i.e. he plays atleast half his BBL matches every season at Perth, which is probably one of the most steep bounce pitches in the world. And he had some very good returns for them this season, especially at Perth. On top of that he is in-form. He just blasted a ton a couple of weeks ago against Melbourne Renegades

@Nikhil_cric

 

[Nikhil_cric]

India bowled poorly. Someone with zero feet movement shouldn't be getting away like this.

There are plenty of batsmen with minimal footwork in this format.

 

[jnaveen1980]

It is going to be a comprehensive win.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I don't think he struggles against the short ball. He plays for Perth Scorchers i.e. he plays half his BBL matches every season at Perth, which is probably one of the most steep bounce pitches in the world. And he had some very good returns for them this season. Just blasted a ton a few weeks ago.

@Nikhil_cric

Yeah. Even against Pakistan , 2 years ago, Rauf was bowling quick and often short and he had no problems against that.

 

[BreadPakoda]

India’s batting vs. Pakistan’s spin bowling is going to be a good contest in the World Cup.

 

[jnaveen1980]

wow First 2 overs 0 for 40. 5 for 10 in the next 1.5 overs.

 

[BreadPakoda]

wow First 2 overs 0 for 40. 5 for 10 in the next 1.5 overs.

Good comeback. This is what JAMT20s should be all about. Win/loss doesn’t matter as much as your players getting tested. Can they show up during a crisis? Can they make a come back? Same with Dube in the last game.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Bumrah is gone. We need to find other death bowlers now

 

[globetrotter]

The only debatable thing here is your ability to debate. You keep dragging in off-topic stuff to soothe the pain, lol.

Viru how many time you are saying this? Match harne ka time aaya... bhag jaa

 

[jnaveen1980]

But for isan kishan's poor keeping india would have won already.

 

[sweep_shot]

NZ have done very well.

In my book, they won the T20 series because they were depleted and they experimented throughout the series.

They have already beaten India in Test and ODI. So, that part is undisputed.

Overall, NZ are better than India currently.

 

[CricVet]

good bowling chucker

 

[sweep_shot]

good bowling chucker

Bumrah's figure today: 4-0-58-0.

Bumrah's personal motto: If you are not chucking, you are not trying.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Will Darryl mitchell home town will celebrate him with garland for him hitting bumrah for back to back sixes. It is the 2nd time ever anyone has done against Bumrah. May be declare a holiday at Canterbury.

 

[globetrotter]

If Bangladesh is not boycotted this WC ... It could be NZ-Ban final..... BCB missed the bus

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

lol at Sodhi trying to make up for the damage he did with the ball by scoring some quick runs with the bat

 

[globetrotter]

Great series win 4-1 to India ... congratulations team India... Nz also we'll played ..esp. Finn allen

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

If Bangladesh is not boycotted this WC ... It could be NZ-Ban final..... BCB missed the bus

Your obsession with Bangladesh continues.

 

[jnaveen1980]

lol at Sodhi trying to make up for the damage he did with the ball by scoring some quick runs with the bat

NZ is overall a very good side. They are extremely familiar with Indian conditions compared to other SENA teams. May be SA is an exception. But NZers are very much part of IPL success along with West Indian beasts. I expect them to do far far better than what they did here. It is a very well balanaced side. India literally had to shock them into submission rather than through clinical approach.

 

[saimayubera]

India’s batting vs. Pakistan’s spin bowling is going to be a good contest in the World Cup.

Lol no. That was settled in the Asia Cup.

Plus Pak batsmen were destroyed thrice by Indian spinners.

 

[saimayubera]

This is the difference between India and other sides.

Other teams have monsters too - Salt, Allen, Head etc.

India's entire lineup is monsters inc.

Also Indian bowling may get smashed in PP but they always come back in middle overs.

Remember Asia Cup final.

 

[jnaveen1980]

This is the difference between India and other sides.

Other teams have monsters too - Salt, Allen, Head etc.

India's entire lineup is monsters inc.

Also Indian bowling may get smashed in PP but they always come back in middle overs.

Remember Asia Cup final.

Many many teams have won half session, half day against Australia they always lose in the end. Because game is not T10. You ahve to go all the way. This is something similar to that.

 

[saimayubera]

NZ is overall a very good side. They are extremely familiar with Indian conditions compared to other SENA teams. May be SA is an exception. But NZers are very much part of IPL success along with West Indian beasts. I expect them to do far far better than what they did here. It is a very well balanaced side. India literally had to shock them into submission rather than through clinical approach.

NZ SA Eng Aus (first string) are all good T20 teams.

Its just that this is a generational Indian team which is making them look lacklustre.

I don't think the full strength India team has lost a match since last 2-3 years. Only matches they have lost are with key players missing or rested and playing weird configurations instead of the 5 + 3 + 3.

 

[saimayubera]

Many many teams have won half session, half day against Australia they always lose in the end. Because game is not T10. You ahve to go all the way. This is something similar to that.

Pak won both PPs in AC final but result was reasonably comfortable win.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Bumrah would be feeling like Nawaz Sharif today,....Mujay kyun Mara...

 

[saimayubera]

Bumrah would be feeling like Nawaz Sharif today,....Mujay kyun Mara...

And he won ... yet again.

Keep celebrating these wins like Farhan lol.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pak won both PPs in AC final but result was reasonably comfortable win.

Yup. You have to win critical moments of the game rather than fixed moment.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

And he won ... yet again.

Keep celebrating these wins like Farhan lol.

Lol for guys like you to portray that simple comment as celebration

 

[BreadPakoda]

Lol no. That was settled in the Asia Cup.

Plus Pak batsmen were destroyed thrice by Indian spinners.

Their bowlers are in better form strengthened by that dart thrower. Also SL wickets are the worst.

 

[saimayubera]

Their bowlers are in better form strengthened by that dart thrower. Also SL wickets are the worst.

"Form" against B/C teams and minnows.

Plus they will also bat against Kuldeep/Varun/Axar.

 

[BDfanforever]

Good practice game for both teams. However, I don't like these 250-300 scores in T20. Even in ODI we don't see such scores sometimes.

 

[sweep_shot]

Good practice game for both teams. However, I don't like these 250-300 scores in T20. Even in ODI we don't see such scores sometimes.

250-300 in T20 is a farce.

I prefer 150-160 games for T20.

 

[globetrotter]

Your obsession with Bangladesh continues.

Really Bangladesh team is a good team, they were ready to play in India, but BCB dragged the matter with ICC too far offcourse on the backing of Pakistan. Remember Bangladeshi shooter participating in tournament in India and they don't have security concerns

 

[BDfanforever]

Let's stick to topic. Topic is India vs New Zealand.

Let's acknowledge NZ's superiority over India in ODI and Test. Let's also acknowledge Bumrah and Axar should be tested.

Even if Axar passes the test, I would like to know why isnt throwing. I've always noted his action seems super dodgy even more so than Bumrah.

 

[sweep_shot]

Even if Axar passes the test, I would like to know why isnt throwing. I've always noted his action seems super dodgy even more so than Bumrah.

If they were from another country, I think they could've been reported by the umpires.

But, since they are Indians, they get free passes.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Even if Axar passes the test, I would like to know why isnt throwing. I've always noted his action seems super dodgy even more so than Bumrah.

You clearly have no eye for what a bowling action is and isn't

 

[jnaveen1980]

Comprehensive win. India has 100% record of 200 plus total wins recently . 15th time they are posting 200 since 2024. Won every single match.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Really Bangladesh team is a good team, they were ready to play in India, but BCB dragged the matter with ICC too far offcourse on the backing of Pakistan. Remember Bangladeshi shooter participating in tournament in India and they don't have security concerns

You are still obsessed with Bangladesh.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Good practice game for both teams. However, I don't like these 250-300 scores in T20. Even in ODI we don't see such scores sometimes.

Not every team scores these runs.Only team that has good hitters can do this. SA, NZ, India, Australia .

 

[jnaveen1980]

Series was entertaining. NZ is battle hardened now. Other teams will suffer from it.

 

[sweep_shot]

Not every team scores these runs.Only team that has good hitters can do this. SA, NZ, India, Australia .

Many teams can cross 200.

West Indies and England can also do this. So can Pakistan and SL. Even BD crossed 200 a few times.

 

[Devadwal]

@Nikhil_cric all talk of chasing tean advantage but here all three matches have been won by batting first.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Wow. Thumping knock from Kishan. Didn't think he was that type of batsman. Surya coming into form too ahead of the world cup.

Good stuff from India. Brutal cricket.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Good practice game for both teams. However, I don't like these 250-300 scores in T20. Even in ODI we don't see such scores sometimes.

I'm the same. Prefer a balanced match.

But still the guys who can hit like this deserve immense credit. Can't take anything away from them.

 

[BDfanforever]

Not every team scores these runs.Only team that has good hitters can do this. SA, NZ, India, Australia .

I think full strength WI team with Pooran, Hetmeyer, Rovman Powel, and others can probably crack 300 on a good day.

 

[topspin]

Top teams like India are blitzing 271 against NZ and then you have a brain dead Misbah loyalist like @Raja Ishtiaq ask "who will be our anchor, if not Babar".

 

[Nikhil_cric]

@Nikhil_cric all talk of chasing tean advantage but here all three matches have been won by batting first.

In Thiruvananthapuram?

I don't think any chasing side has scored more than 230 in a T20I anywhere in India

 

[Devadwal]

In Thiruvananthapuram?

I don't think any chasing side has scored more than 230 in a T20I anywhere in India

I'm talking about this series, india won two T20 by batting first and NZ won only T20 by batting 1st as well.

Team can chase up to 210 but not more than 220+ Even on flat pitches.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I think full strength WI team with Pooran, Hetmeyer, Rovman Powel, and others can probably crack 300 on a good day.

Good day rarely come because they don't know how to rotate strike rate. They build dot balls try to go harder and implode. They are team of all or nothing. They had guys like Samuels, Simmons who could stabillize if needed.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Top teams like India are blitzing 271 against NZ and then you have a brain dead Misbah loyalist like @Raja Ishtiaq ask "who will be our anchor, if not Babar".

And those talks of getting to a “respectable total”.

 

[saimayubera]

Many teams can cross 200.

West Indies and England can also do this. So can Pakistan and SL. Even BD crossed 200 a few times.

Not against SENAI A teams.

 

[sweep_shot]

And those talks of getting to a “respectable total”.

Why not replace bowlers with bowling machines if you want the par score to be 271?

 

[saimayubera]

Why not replace bowlers with bowling machines if you want the par score to be 271?

271 is not par score as NZ's inning showed. It was Indian batting that made 271.

 

[jnaveen1980]

271 is not par score as NZ's inning showed. It was Indian batting that made 271.

India took the foot of the gas. Also Kishan's keeping was so poor. Otherwise they would not have crossed 175

 

[BreadPakoda]

Why not replace bowlers with bowling machines if you want the par score to be 271?

Nah. I usually prefer games with 180ish. But if you’re presented with a belter, go all out. Don’t aim for respectable totals like 140-150. That’s what I detest and that’s what players like Babar, Rizwan, Rahul, Dhawan etc. try to get. And the entire Bangla team, which is why I don’t want to see them in T20s.

 

[sweep_shot]

Nah. I usually prefer games with 180ish. But if you’re presented with a belter, go all out. Don’t aim for respectable totals like 140-150. That’s what I detest.

I see. Fair enough.

I personally like 150-160 pitches. Something for the bowlers too.

 

[saimayubera]

India took the foot of the gas. Also Kishan's keeping was so poor. Otherwise they would not have crossed 175

With Tilak in, would have been 290.

 

[sweep_shot]

India took the foot of the gas. Also Kishan's keeping was so poor. Otherwise they would not have crossed 175

Did Indian players call you on the phone and tell you that?

NZ are capable of crossing 200 even if India don't take "foot off the gas".

 

[jnaveen1980]

With Tilak in, would have been 290.

On the same pitch if you have players like KL Rahul we would not have crossed 200.

 

[sweep_shot]

On the same pitch if you have players like KL Rahul we would not have crossed 200.

Rahul has achieved much more than the current T20 hacks who only do well in T20 and against depleted sides.

 

[saimayubera]

Rahul has achieved much more than the current T20 hacks who only do well in T20 and against depleted sides.

Defeated full strength Asian lodus in AC

 

[BreadPakoda]

With Tilak in, would have been 290.

Not necessarily. Hardik would have potentially faced fewer balls so you never know.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I'm talking about this series, india won two T20 by batting first and NZ won only T20 by batting 1st as well.

Team can chase up to 210 but not more than 220+ Even on flat pitches.

Highest successful T20I chase in India is 230 by England against SA.

Our highest is only 211 though

 

[jnaveen1980]

Highest successful T20I chase in India is 230 by England against SA.

Our highest is only 211 though

No team has beaten India once they cross 200 in the last 2 years or so. 15 wins in a row with 200 plus runs

 

[topspin]

And those talks of getting to a “respectable total”.

Exactly, these loyalistd with their Misbah/Babar/Rizwan fetish have no shame.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

My way or the HIGHWAY....

 

[sweep_shot]

My way or the HIGHWAY....
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Serbia and Bulgaria made it to the list. Nice.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

NZ is overall a very good side. They are extremely familiar with Indian conditions compared to other SENA teams. May be SA is an exception. But NZers are very much part of IPL success along with West Indian beasts. I expect them to do far far better than what they did here. It is a very well balanaced side. India literally had to shock them into submission rather than through clinical approach.

I agree. I wouldn't read too much into this series. India has dominated every team, especially at home. Tournament is ultimately decided in the knockouts and at that point of the tournament every team feels the pressure. But I really hope NZ don't think about playing Sodhi too much. One of the most halwa bowlers in the world

 

[saimayubera]

NZ have done very well.

In my book, they won the T20 series because they were depleted and they experimented throughout the series.

They have already beaten India in Test and ODI. So, that part is undisputed.

Overall, NZ are better than India currently.

India literally didn't have AC Final MoM and no 3 ranked T20 batsman throughout the series.

No 1 ranked Varun skipped some games as did 24 semi MoM Axar.

NZ were closer to full strength than India.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India literally didn't have AC Final MoM and no 3 ranked T20 batsman throughout the series.

No 1 ranked Varun skipped some games as did 24 semi MoM Axar.

NZ were closer to full strength than India.

Don't entertain him. Just block him . You won't see any of his posts. You can peacefully post. There is zero point in engaging a conversation with a cricket illiterate.