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Tevez, Oscar, Hulk, and Pelle are amongst the top 10 highest paid footballers in the world now.
Oscar is reportedly going to make more than Messi, Ronaldo and Bale.
Oscar is reportedly going to make more than Messi, Ronaldo and Bale.
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China's luxurious spending is going to be beneficial for all footballers in the sense that clubs will be under pressure to raise their wages, in order to ensure their players don't get tempted by an irresistible offer from a Chinese club. 
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China is pulling some IPL cheese! 
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It's growing , need to make sure the league is competitive and try produce local talent. Playing and training with top stars will only help up and coming Chinese talent.
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China football chiefs cut club quotas for foreign players
A timely decision from the Chinese FA.
A timely decision from the Chinese FA.
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Oscar will be the Ozil of China.
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You can watch it on Sky, definitely will watch Oscar's debut.
Source; http://www.skysports.com/football/n...gue-club-shanghai-sipg-key-questions-answered
Source; http://www.skysports.com/football/n...gue-club-shanghai-sipg-key-questions-answered
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Come on Rooney, you know it makes sense!
No, it doesn't.
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Tevez on £600K a week, that's a lovely little retirement for Rooney. Could basically buy the whole of Merseyside after two years.
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He's obviously won't leave until he breaks Sir Bobby Charlton's record.
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Tevez's move has been confirmed. Chinese football continues to prosper. 
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Chinese club offered Real Madrid £256M for Ronaldo and £87M a year wages for Ronaldo!
Crazy money.
Crazy money.
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Kinda sad to think of some of the historic clubs in the lower leagues like Coventry who could have all their financial woes ended with about a week of Tevez's salary being let go to the wall while such disgusting amounts of money get thrown about like confetti.
Tevez's move has been confirmed. Chinese football continues to prosper.
Over £600K per week.
Have a feeling this could go pear-shaped.
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Chinese clubs seem to be growing money on trees, they can break they're transfer records whenever they want at this point.
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imagine if titus bramble was in is prime, what would his wage be
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Where the hell do they get this money?
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Lol Alex Witsel has reportedly turned down Juventus' offer to go to Shanghai.
Unbelievable,such a highly rated player.
Unbelievable,such a highly rated player.
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The guy has always thought about money first, there is a reason why he plays for Zenit and not for a world class team. Not surprised.
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Why Chinese clubs are breaking transfer records – and why players are wise to go
The world started to pay serious attention to the Chinese Super League during last January’s transfer window. Chinese clubs spent huge amounts of money as they tried to lure world-class footballers to the country, with the most notable spending coming from Guangzhou Evergrande, who signed Jackson Martínez from Atlético Madrid for £32m, and Jiangsu Suning, who paid Chelsea £20m for Ramires. The deals hit the headlines across the globe, and Shanghai SIPG’s £52m acquisition of Oscar from Chelsea and Carlos Tevez’s £71m move to Shanghai Shenhua, suggest the big spending will continue this year.
Although many people, including Chelsea boss Antonio Conte, claim that Chinese wealth is a danger to clubs around the world, the large figures are partially caused by market imperfections that have arisen due to the rule that Chinese clubs must limit the number of international players in their squads. This, coupled with the lack of world-class Chinese players, drives up the price of the best homegrown players; for instance Zhang Lu, a 29-year-old goalkeeper with just two caps for China, moved clubs for £8m last year. The high cost of top Chinese talent means it makes economic sense for clubs to spend large sums on top foreign players such as Oscar and Tevez. Indeed, given the inflated prices of Chinese players, Oscar’s price tag may be closer to his real value.
The Chinese government’s ambition to become a footballing superpower is another reason why clubs are so keen to splash the cash. The companies who own the 16 clubs in the Chinese Super League see investment as a way to gain favour with the government. Although China’s plan to become the world’s best footballing nation has many flaws, it is attracting a large number of fans to the game and, while the country may not produce the “Chinese Messi” the government wants, the large-scale investment in academies will improve the base level of Chinese football in the future, as well as the nation’s interest in the game.
The chance to make lucrative connections with the government, along with the restricted Chinese transfer market explain why clubs are willing to pursue foreign superstars. However, many people outside of Asia, especially in the English press, do not understand why top players are willing to move to China in their prime, often still seeing leagues outside of Europe as essentially retirement leagues. These players are deemed greedy and unambitious, descriptions they seldom deserve.
Footballers may dream of winning the Champions League with a storied European club but, essentially, football is football. Oscar will still be doing his dream job: he is still training through the week and then playing for 90 minutes, albeit on the other side of the world. I doubt there are many people who, if offered four times their current salary to do the same job wouldn’t be tempted to move to China for a few years, especially if their careers are as short and fragile as that of a professional footballer.
As for a lack of ambition, Oscar has the chance to go from benchwarmer at Chelsea to potentially the biggest star on an entire continent. If anything, staying at Chelsea and sitting on the touchlines would be showing a lack of aspiration and adventure.
Critics also claim that moving away from Europe damages a player’s career prospects. The quality of football in China is still a long way behind the top European leagues but moving to the Far East is not quite the career-destroying move many people make it out to be. First of all, there are plenty of players who have moved to a “retirement league” before returning to Europe and continue their careers successfully. People assumed Jermain Defoe would finish his career in Major League Soccer when he moved to Toronto FC in 2014. They thought the lower quality of football across the Atlantic would lead to Defoe losing his edge but his goals effectively kept Sunderland in the Premier League last season and a return to the England squad has been suggested.
Even Nicolas Anelka and Didier Drogba, whose spells at Shanghai Shenhua were reported in the English media as being disastrous, both returned to the Premier League after playing in China, with Drogba returning to Chelsea and Anelka joining West Brom.
With scouting systems and media now global businesses, it is possible to keep track of players’ careers from the other side of the world, so a move to China doesn’t mean players will drop off the radar. In fact, the influx of expensive imports and big-name managers have given the Chinese Super League more international attention than ever before.
Moving to Asia can put players in the shop window. Hulk, who will play alongside his Brazil team-mate Oscar at Shanghai SIPG, made his big break in Japan, where he played for Kawazaki Frontale, Tokyo Verdy and Consadole Sapporo. He scored 70 goals in 104 appearances in the J League and his goalscoring attracted the interest of FC Porto, where his impressive form led to a call-up for Brazil.
Edu had a reasonably prolific spell for German club Vfl Bochum towards the start of his career, but when he moved from Mainz 05 to South Korean side Suwon Bluewings in 2007, it may have looked like his time in Europe was over. However, after a successful spell at Suwon – where he helped them become Korean champions – he returned to Germany and ended up playing for Schalke 04 in the Champions League, scoring twice against Inter in the quarter-finals and playing against Manchester United in the semi-finals. He is now back in South Korea with Jeonbuk Motors, the current Asian champions.
Often players move from Brazil to Asia not due to footballing ambition (or greed for that matter; wages in Korea and Japan are similar to what a player would earn back in Brazil and are far lower than what players earn in the Premier League) but because of third-party ownership agreements, or deals with players’ agents. However, if players perform well in Asia, they will attract interest from other parts of the world.
Playing outside of Europe might dent English players’ chances of representing their national team – although David Beckham did earn international caps while at LA Galaxy, even before his loan spells in Italy – but Brazil are perfectly willing to call up their stars who play in China. Paulinho, who swapped Tottenham Hotspur for Guangzhou Evergrande in 2015, and Renato Augusto, who moved to Beijing Guoan last year, both played in Brazil’s 2-0 win over Peru in November.
Asian football still has a long way to go before it can match Europe’s top leagues for quality – the rule limiting foreigners prevents the leagues from just buying their way to the top – but standards are steadily improving every year. Asia’s leagues are slowly becoming more attractive for sponsors, viewing figures are slowly increasing and scouting networks are becoming truly international. China may not become the footballing superpower that its government craves, but Asian countries are not a graveyard for footballers’ careers.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...china-chinese-super-league-oscar-carlos-tevez
The world started to pay serious attention to the Chinese Super League during last January’s transfer window. Chinese clubs spent huge amounts of money as they tried to lure world-class footballers to the country, with the most notable spending coming from Guangzhou Evergrande, who signed Jackson Martínez from Atlético Madrid for £32m, and Jiangsu Suning, who paid Chelsea £20m for Ramires. The deals hit the headlines across the globe, and Shanghai SIPG’s £52m acquisition of Oscar from Chelsea and Carlos Tevez’s £71m move to Shanghai Shenhua, suggest the big spending will continue this year.
Although many people, including Chelsea boss Antonio Conte, claim that Chinese wealth is a danger to clubs around the world, the large figures are partially caused by market imperfections that have arisen due to the rule that Chinese clubs must limit the number of international players in their squads. This, coupled with the lack of world-class Chinese players, drives up the price of the best homegrown players; for instance Zhang Lu, a 29-year-old goalkeeper with just two caps for China, moved clubs for £8m last year. The high cost of top Chinese talent means it makes economic sense for clubs to spend large sums on top foreign players such as Oscar and Tevez. Indeed, given the inflated prices of Chinese players, Oscar’s price tag may be closer to his real value.
The Chinese government’s ambition to become a footballing superpower is another reason why clubs are so keen to splash the cash. The companies who own the 16 clubs in the Chinese Super League see investment as a way to gain favour with the government. Although China’s plan to become the world’s best footballing nation has many flaws, it is attracting a large number of fans to the game and, while the country may not produce the “Chinese Messi” the government wants, the large-scale investment in academies will improve the base level of Chinese football in the future, as well as the nation’s interest in the game.
The chance to make lucrative connections with the government, along with the restricted Chinese transfer market explain why clubs are willing to pursue foreign superstars. However, many people outside of Asia, especially in the English press, do not understand why top players are willing to move to China in their prime, often still seeing leagues outside of Europe as essentially retirement leagues. These players are deemed greedy and unambitious, descriptions they seldom deserve.
Footballers may dream of winning the Champions League with a storied European club but, essentially, football is football. Oscar will still be doing his dream job: he is still training through the week and then playing for 90 minutes, albeit on the other side of the world. I doubt there are many people who, if offered four times their current salary to do the same job wouldn’t be tempted to move to China for a few years, especially if their careers are as short and fragile as that of a professional footballer.
As for a lack of ambition, Oscar has the chance to go from benchwarmer at Chelsea to potentially the biggest star on an entire continent. If anything, staying at Chelsea and sitting on the touchlines would be showing a lack of aspiration and adventure.
Critics also claim that moving away from Europe damages a player’s career prospects. The quality of football in China is still a long way behind the top European leagues but moving to the Far East is not quite the career-destroying move many people make it out to be. First of all, there are plenty of players who have moved to a “retirement league” before returning to Europe and continue their careers successfully. People assumed Jermain Defoe would finish his career in Major League Soccer when he moved to Toronto FC in 2014. They thought the lower quality of football across the Atlantic would lead to Defoe losing his edge but his goals effectively kept Sunderland in the Premier League last season and a return to the England squad has been suggested.
Even Nicolas Anelka and Didier Drogba, whose spells at Shanghai Shenhua were reported in the English media as being disastrous, both returned to the Premier League after playing in China, with Drogba returning to Chelsea and Anelka joining West Brom.
With scouting systems and media now global businesses, it is possible to keep track of players’ careers from the other side of the world, so a move to China doesn’t mean players will drop off the radar. In fact, the influx of expensive imports and big-name managers have given the Chinese Super League more international attention than ever before.
Moving to Asia can put players in the shop window. Hulk, who will play alongside his Brazil team-mate Oscar at Shanghai SIPG, made his big break in Japan, where he played for Kawazaki Frontale, Tokyo Verdy and Consadole Sapporo. He scored 70 goals in 104 appearances in the J League and his goalscoring attracted the interest of FC Porto, where his impressive form led to a call-up for Brazil.
Edu had a reasonably prolific spell for German club Vfl Bochum towards the start of his career, but when he moved from Mainz 05 to South Korean side Suwon Bluewings in 2007, it may have looked like his time in Europe was over. However, after a successful spell at Suwon – where he helped them become Korean champions – he returned to Germany and ended up playing for Schalke 04 in the Champions League, scoring twice against Inter in the quarter-finals and playing against Manchester United in the semi-finals. He is now back in South Korea with Jeonbuk Motors, the current Asian champions.
Often players move from Brazil to Asia not due to footballing ambition (or greed for that matter; wages in Korea and Japan are similar to what a player would earn back in Brazil and are far lower than what players earn in the Premier League) but because of third-party ownership agreements, or deals with players’ agents. However, if players perform well in Asia, they will attract interest from other parts of the world.
Playing outside of Europe might dent English players’ chances of representing their national team – although David Beckham did earn international caps while at LA Galaxy, even before his loan spells in Italy – but Brazil are perfectly willing to call up their stars who play in China. Paulinho, who swapped Tottenham Hotspur for Guangzhou Evergrande in 2015, and Renato Augusto, who moved to Beijing Guoan last year, both played in Brazil’s 2-0 win over Peru in November.
Asian football still has a long way to go before it can match Europe’s top leagues for quality – the rule limiting foreigners prevents the leagues from just buying their way to the top – but standards are steadily improving every year. Asia’s leagues are slowly becoming more attractive for sponsors, viewing figures are slowly increasing and scouting networks are becoming truly international. China may not become the footballing superpower that its government craves, but Asian countries are not a graveyard for footballers’ careers.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...china-chinese-super-league-oscar-carlos-tevez
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Diego Costa dropped by Chelsea after row over huge offer from China
Diego Costa has been dropped from the Chelsea squad for Saturday’s Premier League fixture at Leicester City, after a row that involves a massive offer made to him from a club in the Chinese Super League.
The volatile striker has also clashed with one of the Chelsea fitness coaches over an injury that he feels he has been carrying, and he did not travel to Leicester with his team-mates on Friday. Costa has not trained fully this week and the manager, Antonio Conte, has become involved in the argument.
It is the situation involving the Chinese club that has led to the greater consternation at Stamford Bridge. Costa, in common with an increasing number of A-List Premier League players, has been the subject of an eye-watering offer from China and there is the fear at Chelsea that his advisers could be using it to lever him away.
Costa has recovered his best form this season and his goals have been instrumental in the club’s surge to the top of the table.
The hierarchy have taken a dim view of the situation regarding China and, amid fears that the 28-year-old’s head might have been turned, they have pledged to hold him to his contract, which expires in 2019.
Conte said at his press conference on Friday afternoon that he had at least one decision to take in terms of his selection for the Leicester game. “I have to check a couple of situations and then decide,” he said. “I don’t want to say exactly what and give an advantage to our opponent.”
He was also asked, in relation to Dimitri Payet going on strike at West Ham United, whether he had experienced any issues about players refusing to play for him. “It’s very difficult to talk and above all for me, it’s very difficult for me to talk about another player,” Conte replied. “For my club, for my players, we solve our problem if there are problems. This is important.”
Conte has just been named as the Premier League’s manager of the month for the third month in succession – a record – on the back of his team’s 13-match winning streak but after their defeat at Tottenham Hotspur on the Wednesday before last, he has been consumed with bouncing back. He could have done without this latest headache involving Costa.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/13/diego-costa-dropped-chelsea-row-china
Diego Costa has been dropped from the Chelsea squad for Saturday’s Premier League fixture at Leicester City, after a row that involves a massive offer made to him from a club in the Chinese Super League.
The volatile striker has also clashed with one of the Chelsea fitness coaches over an injury that he feels he has been carrying, and he did not travel to Leicester with his team-mates on Friday. Costa has not trained fully this week and the manager, Antonio Conte, has become involved in the argument.
It is the situation involving the Chinese club that has led to the greater consternation at Stamford Bridge. Costa, in common with an increasing number of A-List Premier League players, has been the subject of an eye-watering offer from China and there is the fear at Chelsea that his advisers could be using it to lever him away.
Costa has recovered his best form this season and his goals have been instrumental in the club’s surge to the top of the table.
The hierarchy have taken a dim view of the situation regarding China and, amid fears that the 28-year-old’s head might have been turned, they have pledged to hold him to his contract, which expires in 2019.
Conte said at his press conference on Friday afternoon that he had at least one decision to take in terms of his selection for the Leicester game. “I have to check a couple of situations and then decide,” he said. “I don’t want to say exactly what and give an advantage to our opponent.”
He was also asked, in relation to Dimitri Payet going on strike at West Ham United, whether he had experienced any issues about players refusing to play for him. “It’s very difficult to talk and above all for me, it’s very difficult for me to talk about another player,” Conte replied. “For my club, for my players, we solve our problem if there are problems. This is important.”
Conte has just been named as the Premier League’s manager of the month for the third month in succession – a record – on the back of his team’s 13-match winning streak but after their defeat at Tottenham Hotspur on the Wednesday before last, he has been consumed with bouncing back. He could have done without this latest headache involving Costa.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/13/diego-costa-dropped-chelsea-row-china
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Costa going to China would be the leagues biggest coup.
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£80m offer and £30m in wages, do China just pull their money out of the ground? I seriously hope this isn't Payet 2.0 and the fitness problem with the coach is the only reason why he isn't playing.
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Sky are saying Costa agent is China, there is something in this story but doubt Chelsea will sell in this window. Doubt Costa will be a Chelsea player by the time his current contract expires
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As long as Wenger is healthy and enjoying the job he'll stay, Ozils contract isnt a factor. He stayed when David Dein left so I think he'll survive if a player left.
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I think it was Ozil wanting reassurances on Wenger's future before signing a new contract.
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Yes but Wengers leaving doesn't mean he will leave. He just wants to know who will be the manager next season like most players would want to know. The media have twisted the story to get hits and clicks.
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Yeah you're probably right, I believe Roman told the Chelsea players early that Conte would be their next manager.
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Interesting.
Ps conte was one of my choices to replace Wenger
He probably could have done more with Arsenal, them being in the Champions League so they wouldn't get rejected by the likes of Koulibaly,Sule,Romagnoli etc.
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He would have done well at Arsenal, he is good tactically would have been interesting to see how he would have used our squad. He definitely wouldn't have stuck with this 4-3-2-1 that Wenger loves.
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His 3-4-3 and 3-5-2 doesn't include a CAM, so I wonder what would've happen to Ozil.
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Yaya Toure rejects staggering £22m-a-year Chinese Super League offer to stay with Manchester City
Yaya Toure has turned down a money-spinning offer to move to China.
The midfielder is out of contract in the summer and was widely expected to leave Manchester City.
Toure was exiled at the start of the season after comments made by his agent towards Pep Guardiola.
However, he has been brought back into the fold by Pep Guardiola in recent weeks and could complete a staggering U-turn by signing a new deal.
Toure is said to have snubbed a £430,000-a-week offer from China to stay at the Etihad, at least until the end of the season, reports the Manchester Evening News.
Toure is hoping to sit down with the Blues at the end of the season to discuss his future – after muzzling his mouthy agent Dmitri Seluk.
He rebuffed offers from China after being exiled by Guardiola and those offers have increased.
But with his family settled in Cheshire, Toure has expressed no interest in a move that could have netted him a cool £22million a year, double his current wage.
Guardiola had also been unhappy that the player was overweight when he returned for pre-season training.
But with the row settled, Toure is back in the fold and is now a first team regular after Ilkay Gundogan was ruled out for the season through injury.
Seluk, a frequent voice in the media, has also gone quiet, with friends of Toure claiming the player has finally gagged him – and that opens up the possibility of another deal in the summer, when his current contract expires.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/yaya-toure-rejects-staggering-430000-9639675
Yaya Toure has turned down a money-spinning offer to move to China.
The midfielder is out of contract in the summer and was widely expected to leave Manchester City.
Toure was exiled at the start of the season after comments made by his agent towards Pep Guardiola.
However, he has been brought back into the fold by Pep Guardiola in recent weeks and could complete a staggering U-turn by signing a new deal.
Toure is said to have snubbed a £430,000-a-week offer from China to stay at the Etihad, at least until the end of the season, reports the Manchester Evening News.
Toure is hoping to sit down with the Blues at the end of the season to discuss his future – after muzzling his mouthy agent Dmitri Seluk.
He rebuffed offers from China after being exiled by Guardiola and those offers have increased.
But with his family settled in Cheshire, Toure has expressed no interest in a move that could have netted him a cool £22million a year, double his current wage.
Guardiola had also been unhappy that the player was overweight when he returned for pre-season training.
But with the row settled, Toure is back in the fold and is now a first team regular after Ilkay Gundogan was ruled out for the season through injury.
Seluk, a frequent voice in the media, has also gone quiet, with friends of Toure claiming the player has finally gagged him – and that opens up the possibility of another deal in the summer, when his current contract expires.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/yaya-toure-rejects-staggering-430000-9639675
Chinese Govt. is pouring money in their soccer from a long term vision. Also, I believe a major part of this money is illegal income that's been legalized through football clubs. They are basically trying to create a MLB/NBA like football league which will replace EPL & La Liga as world's premium soccer league. More or less, CSL has a 90%+ sell-out crowd in their large stadiums, hence popularity of football is well established. Now, Gianni Infantino is trying his best to increase WC teams to 48 - if required, they'll take it to 64 until China makes it to WC.
Only problem for China is that compared to top football nations, their domestic players are much inferior in terms of skill & physicality. If they can raise it to even average Latin or European level, they'll have enough squad players from that 1.4bn population base.
Biggest looser from this Chinese invasion is obviously EPL, which is basically now a mercenary league with Sky money. Foreign players are coming for obnoxious amount of money, while English homegrown hoofballers are charging premium for their home grown status. Almost every top club in EPL are sugar dads toy, hence loyalty to the club is least in EPL. I won't be surprised if EPL goes down below German, French & Italian league (It's actually already below Spain & may be at per with Germany) within couple of seasons, because just like China, to a lesser extent, there is not much top class domestic talent - it's totally dependent on imports.
Besides, football transfer power now has gone out of clubs or players - now the agents are the most powerful people in football market. A player like Radamel Falco was sold as a property to his agent when he was 23, since then it's his agents' wish where he plays, at what wage (the agent gets a % of that wage) & more & more young players are going into this model to ensure their future. Gradually, more than talent, players will be valued on their agents' power. China has started to buyout these agents, managers - what we have seen with Big Sam is just the start.
Only problem for China is that compared to top football nations, their domestic players are much inferior in terms of skill & physicality. If they can raise it to even average Latin or European level, they'll have enough squad players from that 1.4bn population base.
Biggest looser from this Chinese invasion is obviously EPL, which is basically now a mercenary league with Sky money. Foreign players are coming for obnoxious amount of money, while English homegrown hoofballers are charging premium for their home grown status. Almost every top club in EPL are sugar dads toy, hence loyalty to the club is least in EPL. I won't be surprised if EPL goes down below German, French & Italian league (It's actually already below Spain & may be at per with Germany) within couple of seasons, because just like China, to a lesser extent, there is not much top class domestic talent - it's totally dependent on imports.
Besides, football transfer power now has gone out of clubs or players - now the agents are the most powerful people in football market. A player like Radamel Falco was sold as a property to his agent when he was 23, since then it's his agents' wish where he plays, at what wage (the agent gets a % of that wage) & more & more young players are going into this model to ensure their future. Gradually, more than talent, players will be valued on their agents' power. China has started to buyout these agents, managers - what we have seen with Big Sam is just the start.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Shanghai Shenhua coach insists he won't select £650,000-a-week Carlos Tevez until he loses weight <a href="https://t.co/R3Ad36pOYF">https://t.co/R3Ad36pOYF</a></p>— MailOnline Sport (@MailSport) <a href="https://twitter.com/MailSport/status/907887843942518784">September 13, 2017</a></blockquote>
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