For those criticizing the crowd for the PSL final - try to be realistic...

[msb314]

For those who were fed the hype machine - yes it it great to watch a game in Pakistan and see some international players play at Gaddafi but it is not enough to persuade the masses to flock to watch a cricket game.

The crowd was not loud enough or energetic because at the end of the day - it was essentially a T20 game between two franchises who play and train in Dubai/Abu Dhabi and were only formed last year. Yes it sounds harsh but it is the truth.

Brand loyalty takes many, many years to develop. Great teams that you see like the Chicago Cubs, New York Yankees, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Toronto Maple Leads have been formed and playing for pretty much atleast a century now. Our PSL obviously does not have that longevity.

Only longevity develops memories, era's of great teams, accomplishments, trophies and a sense of identity which these franchise teams will lack for atleast a decade.

Hence, the crowd is justified for not buying the hype as they have no emotional attachment to either team in that sense.

Even if we compare to the Zimbabwe series in 2015 - it was our national team playing who ultimately are the pinnacle for cricketing competition on our country. Even they have longevity having been playing for more then 60 years now and fans sense a feeling of national identity which associating with our national team regardless of format.

If the PSL final is to be played in Pakistan again next year - they crowd attendance and atmosphere will be the same for several years until these teams have fully matured.

 

[MRSN]

Also the camera work was low quality..there was hardly any exposure to the crowd...I think it was a bigger factor as well..most people in the crowd would love to be seen on the big screen.

 

[the Great Khan]

Huh. .what we're you watching..it was full house the crowd was amazing..for a domestic game..can somebody plz delete this whiny thread..

 

[msb314]

Also the camera work was low quality..there was hardly any exposure to the crowd...I think it was a bigger factor as well..most people in the crowd would love to be seen on the big screen.

Camera or no camera - I will not be excited or passionate about a game in which two teams that I do not care about are playing...

 

[msb314]

Huh. .what we're you watching..it was full house the crowd was amazing..for a domestic game..can somebody plz delete this whiny thread..

Please watch the game again - the crowds were dull and only were excited when sixes were being hit.

 

[moghul]

Some people are born to criticize, they do it for living.

I loved and enjoyed everything about the final game today. Being a Lahori myself, I could not be happier.

 

[msb314]

Some people are born to criticize, they do it for living.

I loved and enjoyed everything about the final game today. Being a Lahori myself, I could not be happier.

PSL enthusiasts would have enjoyed but most casual fans would not associate themselves with either team.

 

[hafizexpress]

Was the crowd actually that dull? They were constantly chanting different names. Besides the big one Sammy, I think I even heard Ervine. Did anyone else?

 

[Ravian]

I been to qazzafi in 80s and early 90s few times, one dayers and test both, this was the most non responsive
crowd i have seen in Lahore. There used to be in lahore plenty of families even single women
from colleges etc every match .... today didnt see it, mostly adult males.(lot of Pashtoons though).
Even if yu go back to Zinbabwey series crowd was more lively full of urban families with their kids.

Anybody notice national anthem, nobody sung it loud usually gatherings in lahore do! Lahorees were either
priced out or they sold their tickets in black just to avoid all security stuff.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Pathetic thread. Request to mods to delete this misguiding and untrue thread. The stadium was jam packed and absolutely fill to the boundaries. I'm telling you this because I was there. Not only is this thread lame because it is purely lies, but also because the OP presents very weird logics, 'were only celebrating when sixes were being hit'. Dude, cricket is not a 90 minute game. Sure, yeah, it's T20 but still a very long game. If fans start celebrating every ball bowled abs every single taken then please arrange for a lot of stamina enhancing drugs because I don't think even the best of sportsmen can do that. Please delete Mods.

 

[Saj]

I thought the crowd were superb.

Vibrant, supported both teams and were a credit to Pakistan.

 

[msb314]

Pathetic thread. Request to mods to delete this misguiding and untrue thread. The stadium was jam packed and absolutely fill to the boundaries. I'm telling you this because I was there. Not only is this thread lame because it is purely lies, but also because the OP presents very weird logics, 'were only celebrating when sixes were being hit'. Dude, cricket is not a 90 minute game. Sure, yeah, it's T20 but still a very long game. If fans start celebrating every ball bowled abs every single taken then please arrange for a lot of stamina enhancing drugs because I don't think even the best of sportsmen can do that. Please delete Mods.

The crows was dull and nonenergetic.

Nothing like the atmosphere during the Zimbabwe series in 2015 - and the reasons why are given above in the OP.

 

[msb314]

I thought the crowd were superb.

Vibrant, supported both teams and were a credit to Pakistan.

It seemed dull to me. Was expecting more from the crowds given the hype that the PSL final was provided and the amazing turnout in the 2015 Zimbabwe series.

But in hindsight - it makes sense since it was a game between two T20 franchises that are based in Dubai and were formed only 1 year ago.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

The coverage was third class. Had it been the original company that was covering PSL, the TV audience would have experienced it much better.

It was the same during the Zimbabwe series. People at the ground had a completely different view to the TV audience.

 

[syed abbas]

Even if PSL becomes more successful than IPL in terms of quality and star-players,some people will find excuses to crictise.Some will criticise positively and some will criticise to appease the INDIANS here on the forum.It is better to ignore these type of people.And PSl final in Lahore is the best thing to happen for both our country and cricket.

 

[tahir_dj]

dont worry they are the same people who were pulling their hairs out when it was decided the final would be in Lahore. And and then they were mourning that production company has left PSL.

you will find negative people all the time.

PCB have pulled off an historic event it wasnt just PSL final . it was to defeat the odds

 

[msb314]

The coverage was third class. Had it been the original company that was covering PSL, the TV audience would have experienced it much better.

It was the same during the Zimbabwe series. People at the ground had a completely different view to the TV audience.

The political chants were cringeworthy and was a big turn off for me at that stage.

 

[msb314]

Even if PSL becomes more successful than IPL in terms of quality and star-players,some people will find excuses to crictise.Some will criticise positively and some will criticise to appease the INDIANS here on the forum.It is better to ignore these type of people.And PSl final in Lahore is the best thing to happen for both our country and cricket.

dont worry they are the same people who were pulling their hairs out when it was decided the final would be in Lahore. And and then they were mourning that production company has left PSL.

you will find negative people all the time.

PCB have pulled off an historic event it wasnt just PSL final . it was to defeat the odds

Yes - hosting the PSL final in Lahore was a big accomplishment given our domestic issues and lack of international cricket in Pakistan for several years but casual fans will not be invested in newly formed T20 franchises that are based in Dubai. After several years they may be (IPL is beginning to enter that maturity stage but even they had several teams suspended and defunct which severely harms brand loyalty) but PSl is not at that stage yet.

PSL does not substitute for the passion and jazba that casual fans feel for the national team.

 

[Dubawi]

I been to qazzafi in 80s and early 90s few times, one dayers and test both, this was the most non responsive
crowd i have seen in Lahore. There used to be in lahore plenty of families even single women
from colleges etc every match .... today didnt see it, mostly adult males.(lot of Pashtoons though).
Even if yu go back to Zinbabwey series crowd was more lively full of urban families with their kids.

Anybody notice national anthem, nobody sung it loud usually gatherings in lahore do! Lahorees were either
priced out or they sold their tickets in black just to avoid all security stuff.

I guess the production unit is to be blamed here. The crowd was very vibrant, energetic and colorful you will notice it in coming days when twitter pics start to come through.

The production unit did not engage the crowd as much as they should have, so due to lack of coverage the viewers believe the crowd was dull. But my friends from the stadium tell me it was the complete opposite.

 

[Gayle_Force]

The crows was dull and nonenergetic.

Nothing like the atmosphere during the Zimbabwe series in 2015 - and the reasons why are given above in the OP.

This was a club match happening in Lahore, that too between Peshawar and Quetta. You can't really expect the audience to be passionately involved can you? Lets be honest most of the support shown towards either side was purely artificial as neither Pakistan nor Lahore Qalandars were playing. Furthermore, the quality of cricket played was quite poor and one team was significantly better than the other, which was specially evident in the second half of the game.

I think the support showed towards cricket was quite adequate and I still maintain that having this match in Lahore did not have much benefit to Pakistan cricket. Having it in UAE with two full strength teams and a better pitch would have provided a much higher quality of game.

 

[moghul]

I been to qazzafi in 80s and early 90s few times, one dayers and test both, this was the most non responsive
crowd i have seen in Lahore. There used to be in lahore plenty of families even single women
from colleges etc every match .... today didnt see it, mostly adult males.(lot of Pashtoons though).
Even if yu go back to Zinbabwey series crowd was more lively full of urban families with their kids.

Anybody notice national anthem, nobody sung it loud usually gatherings in lahore do! Lahorees were either
priced out or they sold their tickets in black just to avoid all security stuff.

Every stadium and crowd follow some history and tradition belongs to that stadium and team. When I was going to watch matches in GS as a child and then as teen ager with my older brothers, cousins and uncles, in 70s and 80s, we knew what to expect inside the stadium and what kind of atmosphere would be there. There was a tradition set up for decades. Now ask the new generation,when was the last time they watched an international cricket natch there. How many have seen players like Imran, Majid, Gavaskar, Dev, Hadlee, Lyod, Zageer Abbas, Tendulakr, Miandad, Richard, Marshal, Holding, Lillee and so many playing and entertaining the crowd live in front of their eyes.

You can;t compare Lahore's crowd today, with Lords, MCG, Eden Garden and other big cricketing center today. With losing international cricket we not only have lost opportunity for young player to be exposed to quality players we have also lost the crowd which once made watching a cricket match at GS the most enjoyable experience for any cricket fan.

So please , instead of moaning, talk positive and give Pakistan cricket and its followers and Lahori crowd some time, things will get better, I'm sure.

 

[msb314]

This was a club match happening in Lahore, that too between Peshawar and Quetta. You can't really expect the audience to be passionately involved can you? Lets be honest most of the support shown towards either side was purely artificial as neither Pakistan nor Lahore Qalandars were playing. Furthermore, the quality of cricket played was quite poor and one team was significantly better than the other, which was specially evident in the second half of the game.

I think the support showed towards cricket was quite adequate and I still maintain that having this match in Lahore did not have much benefit to Pakistan cricket. Having it in UAE with two full strength teams and a better pitch would have provided a much higher quality of game.

Exactly my point - even if Qalandar's were playing - the fans would still not be passionately involved as they as based in Dubai and only existed for a year.

PSL needs to exist for atleast a decade and be played in Pakistan for the fans to become emotionally invested in their teams.

 

[syed abbas]

Yes - hosting the PSL final in Lahore was a big accomplishment given our domestic issues and lack of international cricket in Pakistan for several years but casual fans will not be invested in newly formed T20 franchises that are based in Dubai. After several years they may be (IPL is beginning to enter that maturity stage but even they had several teams suspended and defunct which severely harms brand loyalty) but PSl is not at that stage yet.

PSL does not substitute for the passion and jazba that casual fans feel for the national team.

It is obvious that one will be more enthusiastic and passionate for the national team than a T20 franchise.But it is unfortunate some people had opposed to holding of PSL final in Lahore so that Sethi and PML-N cannot claim the credit.Now the same group is complaining about the production quality and many other things.Today was a great day for our country and cricket,It is time to set aside our political differences and give PCB and PML-N the credit they deserve.

 

[msb314]

It is obvious that one will be more enthusiastic and passionate for the national team than a T20 franchise.But it is unfortunate some people had opposed to holding of PSL final in Lahore so that Sethi and PML-N cannot claim the credit.Now the same group is complaining about the production quality and many other things.Today was a great day for our country and cricket,It is time to set aside our political differences and give PCB and PML-N the credit they deserve.

Yes Sethi did a great job of making the PSL final happen in Lahore and is no doubt a major achievement for us. Still a long way before international cricket can return to Pakistan but it is a step in the right direction.

 

[Yossarian]

The crowd was not loud enough or energetic because at the end of the day - it was essentially a T20 game between two franchises who play and train in Dubai/Abu Dhabi and were only formed last year. Yes it sounds harsh but it is the truth.

Brand loyalty takes many, many years to develop. Great teams that you see like the Chicago Cubs, New York Yankees, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Toronto Maple Leads have been formed and playing for pretty much atleast a century now. Our PSL obviously does not have that longevity.

Only longevity develops memories, era's of great teams, accomplishments, trophies and a sense of identity which these franchise teams will lack for atleast a decade.

Just to add:

Whilst the Pakistani players will start being associated with particular teams, the same will not be the case with the likes of Gayle and co, where they will go from league to league, and play in the T20 leagues in Pakistan, India, Australia, South Africa, Bangladesh, West Indies and England - all in the same year before starting the cycle all over again the following year.

Sure, it brings a certain novelty value at the beginning, but in the long term it doesn't do much for brand loyalty with such frequent changes.

With the likes of Messi, Ronaldo and others, you can at least say that they play for Barcelona, RM etc, with fans of those clubs buying shirts and other merchandise with those players names on them, that is until such time they get transferred to another club.

Ronaldo will be remembered for/associated with playing for Man Utd and Real Madrid, but how many remember him also playing for Sporting Lisbon before ManU bought him? Or Beckham with Man Utd, but how many remember him also playing for Preston North End, Milan and PSG?

But when the likes of Gayle, Pieterson, Pollard can be playing in quick succession for anything up to seven different T20 franchises alone, along with other domestic teams, each and every calendar year, apart from the deluded, how many will buy shirts and other club merchandise with their names on it - and hence help to build brand loyalty of those clubs?

 

[Mamoon]

Yes the crowd was so great that half of the people left before the presentation ceremony.

 

[Yossarian]

Yes the crowd was so great that half of the people left before the presentation ceremony.

Sure it wasn't just the fans of the losing team, plus perhaps the neutrals? If so, that's the norm. Very rarely does one see the fans of the losing team remain in order to see the trophy presented to the winning team followed by the celebrations by the fans and players of the winning team.

 

[Bewal Express]

One of the things that people forget is how far the crowd is from the action at the Gaddafi. I know why they do it, but it kills the atmosphere. I also thought the wicket for a T20 game was very poor,with too much low bounce. People came to 6's but there were too many dot balls.

 

[Gayle_Force]

Yes the crowd was so great that half of the people left before the presentation ceremony.

Cant blame the crowd there, It is quite a hassle to exit a packed stadium even in the west. Can only imagine how it would be like in a high security environment.

 

[KingKhanWC]

One of the things that people forget is how far the crowd is from the action at the Gaddafi. I know why they do it, but it kills the atmosphere. I also thought the wicket for a T20 game was very poor,with too much low bounce. People came to 6's but there were too many dot balls.

This makes a massive difference.

Is there anyone on here who was at the stadium? I would love to read a detailed report of how the crowd responded, the security arrangements etc.

 

[msb314]

Just to add:

Whilst the Pakistani players will start being associated with particular teams, the same will not be the case with the likes of Gayle and co, where they will go from league to league, and play in the T20 leagues in Pakistan, India, Australia, South Africa, Bangladesh, West Indies and England - all in the same year before starting the cycle all over again the following year.

Sure, it brings a certain novelty value at the beginning, but in the long term it doesn't do much for brand loyalty with such frequent changes.

With the likes of Messi, Ronaldo and others, you can at least say that they play for Barcelona, RM etc, with fans of those clubs buying shirts and other merchandise with those players names on them, that is until such time they get transferred to another club.

Ronaldo will be remembered for/associated with playing for Man Utd and Real Madrid, but how many remember him also playing for Sporting Lisbon before ManU bought him? Or Beckham with Man Utd, but how many remember him also playing for Preston North End, Milan and PSG?

But when the likes of Gayle, Pieterson, Pollard can be playing in quick succession for anything up to seven different T20 franchises alone, along with other domestic teams, each and every calendar year, apart from the deluded, how many will buy shirts and other club merchandise with their names on it - and hence help to build brand loyalty of those clubs?

Great points!

That's why the franchise model for T20 cricket does not work very well in terms of brand loyalty. There are simply far too many teams and leagues for players to play in throughout the season as opposed to NBA/NHL/MLB/NFL/EPL/La Liga etc.

It may work in the long run when fans can identify with local teams and players who have been with the franchise for many years but not in the infancy stages. IPL is beginning to reap its benefits now but even they would have been demoralized by the suspension of CSK/Royals and the abandonment of the Kerala Tuskers and Deccan - events that KILL brand loyalty and fan support.

 

[the Great Khan]

Camera or no camera - I will not be excited or passionate about a game in which two teams that I do not care about are playing...

You sir will never be satisfied..please leave your moaning for the street corner..

 

[the Great Khan]

What a disaster..time to scrap Pakistan cricket altogether..hopefully then some moaners will be satisfied.

 

[Ravian]

My contention was crowd doesnt looks like a lahoree crowd, perhaps significant nos were Pashtoons and they
usually dont come with their families. That might have affected the atmosphere unlike
Zimbabwe tour which had mostly Lahoreee crowd with their families.

 

[the Great Khan]

Horrible crowd..I mean we needed some football hooligans to help..all these pathans just spoilt the atmosphere

 

[ExplicitAI]

People are forgetting that the main purpose of the PSL final is to bring cricket back in our country. The crowd was a bit dull at the beginning but started to liven up a bit after, I heard chants of Sarfy and Zalmi if I'm not mistaken. The crowd was electric here and the game itself was fantastic and exciting.

 

[todfod 11]

It was great crowd I believe.. The match was boring due the pitch I believe.. Lightning could have been better.. But It was all its just the start.. May nxt Psl have few matches In pakistan. May b if lahore would have been in final the atmosphere would have been different.

 

[Red Devil]

Can we all just stop whining just be happy that cricket returned in Pakistan?

 

[msb314]

You sir will never be satisfied..please leave your moaning for the street corner..

Satisfied at what?

I merely gave an explanation as to why the crowd was not great today. The PSL team are still in their infancy stages and hence many casual fans do not associate with them.

Anyhow - holding the PSL final in Lahore was a great achievement and a step in the right direction in helping international cricket return to Pakistan.

 

[Couch Cricketer]

Satisfied at what?

I merely gave an explanation as to why the crowd was not great today. The PSL team are still in their infancy stages and hence many casual fans do not associate with them.

Anyhow - holding the PSL final in Lahore was a great achievement and a step in the right direction in helping international cricket return to Pakistan.

Lahore was not playing had Lahore been playing I think the crowd and its support would be different. Most were there to watch cricket but didn't have the same attachment they would have had to the Lahore team.

 

[msb314]

Lahore was not playing had Lahore been playing I think the crowd and its support would be different. Most were there to watch cricket but didn't have the same attachment they would have had to the Lahore team.

I doubt it - even if Qalandar's reached the final - the crowd support would have been the same considering they play/train in the UAE and were only formed one year ago.

Emotion attachment to Qalandar's (or any local team) will only arise once the PSL shifts to Pakistan and the league gets established after a few years. It will also help establish regional rivalries e.g. Lahore Qalandar's vs. Karachi Lions should be a big one!

 

[Couch Cricketer]

I doubt it - even if Qalandar's reached the final - the crowd support would have been the same considering they play/train in the UAE and were only formed one year ago.

Emotion attachment to Qalandar's (or any local team) will only arise once the PSL shifts to Pakistan and the league gets established after a few years. It will also help establish regional rivalries e.g. Lahore Qalandar's vs. Karachi Lions should be a big one!

The emotional attachment is with the other half of the name Lahore not Qalanders. It does not matter when the team was established people do have an attachment with their city. People have different teams they like but the attachment to their own city is different. The same match between Peshawar and Quetta would have had a different atmosphere if held in one of their own city's.

 

[London_Lahori]

I'd blame the coverage for that tbh, poor coverage from the broadcaster with not enough microphones around the ground.

 

[Smbhayi]

I'd blame the coverage for that tbh, poor coverage from the broadcaster with not enough microphones around the ground.

as [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] said yesterday it may bcoz of political chants which force broadcasters lowers external volume!

 

[London_Lahori]

as [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] said yesterday it may bcoz of political chants which force broadcasters lowers external volume!

Sad! Wanted to hear the crowd.

 

[bilalmasaud]

All factors aside the QG foreigner refusing terrible pitch and the initial pcb speeches i found the match and the crowd was excellent! i would have loved to be there wasn't but all my friends that were have not stopped singing about it so don't know perhaps expectations need to be checked ... overall great work and great entertainment

 

[ExpressPacer]

The crows was dull and nonenergetic.

Nothing like the atmosphere during the Zimbabwe series in 2015 - and the reasons why are given above in the OP.

I was there both times. BOTH times and let me assure you, the crowd in each game was superb. Some people just feel good criticism everything.

 

[Braveheart]

The crowd at the World cup final in 1996 at Lahore was even duller.
The crowd consisted mainly of 'VIP's' and their boring families who did not seem to have an interest in the game.
We had a slightly similar situation for the PSL final yesterday, where the novelty factor was at play and genuine Cricket lovers were not present.

 

[the Great Khan]

I was there both times. BOTH times and let me assure you, the crowd in each game was superb. Some people just feel good criticism everything.

thanks for that. Most on here are going by their somewhat misguided perception of tv pictures. From what I saw that was a good crowd. glad its been verified by someone who was there.

 

[msb314]

I was there both times. BOTH times and let me assure you, the crowd in each game was superb. Some people just feel good criticism everything.

okay if you say so - it did not seem that way on TV though.

 

[MMHS]

Another reason is the absence of noise makers, because of the ticket price.

Let me explain - despite having most fanatic supporter base - Manchester United, Barcelona, Liverpool & Olympic Marseilles has much, much lower ticket price compared to their bitter rivals of similar status. Not that they can't fill the ground with high priced tickets (may be not 100%, but 95% lgate will be sold even if ticket price is increased by say 10%), neither Manchester, Liverpool or Barcelona are London or Paris or Madrid.

But, this cheaper ticket is what brings young people in the ground who makes the sound. It's impossible to match the experience of an Anfield or Old Traford night at Emirates (their fans are perfect for their Manager) or Stamford Bridge (their fans are perfect for their owner). MU can make more gate money by increasing ticket price & an average 65k attendance instead of sold out 78k, almost every match; but those last 10-15k are the least earning people (mostly young) who creates the environment. Opposite is Ittehad - one of the most expansive tickets around & they are happy with 25k gate, because slashing ticket price doesn't give Mansoor the price elasticity (money can buy player or coach, but can't love, history, status, emotional attachment .... are priceless).

Now, PSL's final ticket was mostly out of reach for the students or working class young people who would make the party. Not necessarily those who attended the match were disengaged or not interested in the match or don't understand the cricket or those are Misbah's acquaintances in a cricket match (in terms of age) but you just can't think of a young man earning 6 digit per month with a 4G smartphone at hand to shout, dance, carry banners, posters, funky dresses & do crazy staff in a stadium - even if he might Misbah junior's classmate ...

Crowd was fine - they came in numbers under all sorts of security measures & threats, at that price. Make ticket price affordable, same number of crowd would have blown the roof of the pavilion.

 

[Slog]

Another reason is the absence of noise makers, because of the ticket price.

Let me explain - despite having most fanatic supporter base - Manchester United, Barcelona, Liverpool & Olympic Marseilles has much, much lower ticket price compared to their bitter rivals of similar status. Not that they can't fill the ground with high priced tickets (may be not 100%, but 95% lgate will be sold even if ticket price is increased by say 10%), neither Manchester, Liverpool or Barcelona are London or Paris or Madrid.

But, this cheaper ticket is what brings young people in the ground who makes the sound. It's impossible to match the experience of an Anfield or Old Traford night at Emirates (their fans are perfect for their Manager) or Stamford Bridge (their fans are perfect for their owner). MU can make more gate money by increasing ticket price & an average 65k attendance instead of sold out 78k, almost every match; but those last 10-15k are the least earning people (mostly young) who creates the environment. Opposite is Ittehad - one of the most expansive tickets around & they are happy with 25k gate, because slashing ticket price doesn't give Mansoor the price elasticity (money can buy player or coach, but can't love, history, status, emotional attachment .... are priceless).

Now, PSL's final ticket was mostly out of reach for the students or working class young people who would make the party. Not necessarily those who attended the match were disengaged or not interested in the match or don't understand the cricket or those are Misbah's acquaintances in a cricket match (in terms of age) but you just can't think of a young man earning 6 digit per month with a 4G smartphone at hand to shout, dance, carry banners, posters, funky dresses & do crazy staff in a stadium - even if he might Misbah junior's classmate ...

Crowd was fine - they came in numbers under all sorts of security measures & threats, at that price. Make ticket price affordable, same number of crowd would have blown the roof of the pavilion.

Some of the tickets were going for PKR 10,000+

Even Pak India matches in 2000s were nowhere remotely close to that even after adjusting for inflation

The young and energetic crowd who are passionate supporters and would make noise was mostly priced out.

Secondly there were embarrassing chants for Sethi sb so broadcaster somewhat muted the crowd noise.

 

[Slog]

What a disaster..time to scrap Pakistan cricket altogether..hopefully then some moaners will be satisfied.

you have a very short fuse ive seen lol. why?

 

[ExpressPacer]

okay if you say so - it did not seem that way on TV though.

I guess I overreacted after seeing all these posts against the PSL final. Thanks for giving my opinion some weight. The crowd was terrific. But maybe you're right, I can't say too much about the coverage given PTV's standards.