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"For us its just a game of cricket that has to played in the right way" : Virat Kohli

You just admitted your lot are a bunch of kittens in terms of mental strength and don’t have the cojones to play well in an ICC final/semi-final.

I have seen many Indians downplaying their team over the past few days, but to just blast your team like this is just brutal.


Nothing wrong in admitting the truth.

How else can you explain us thrashing every team in the bilaterals/group stages but then losing to the same ones in knock out stages every time? And the manner of those defeats, where the team just implodes in 30 minutes... It's pretty clear that these lot have build up a gargantuan mental block when it comes to ICC knockouts.
 
Nothing wrong in admitting the truth.

How else can you explain us thrashing every team in the bilaterals/group stages but then losing to the same ones in knock out stages every time? And the manner of those defeats, where the team just implodes in 30 minutes... It's pretty clear that these lot have build up a gargantuan mental block when it comes to ICC knockouts.
Fair enough.
 
Nothing wrong in admitting the truth.

How else can you explain us thrashing every team in the bilaterals/group stages but then losing to the same ones in knock out stages every time? And the manner of those defeats, where the team just implodes in 30 minutes... It's pretty clear that these lot have build up a gargantuan mental block when it comes to ICC knockouts.

Look at the ICC tournament knockout matches that we lost post CT '13 and let's apply your own criteria. We faced SL in world T20 2014 final, we did not face them at an earlier stage, CWC 2015 semifinal - We played Australia for the first time and we got knocked out, World T20 2016 -- we got knocked out playing WI for the first time, CWC 2019 - We got knocked out by NZ who we didnt play in the group stage.

Only in CT '17 did we choke and lose the plot against a team we dominated in the group stages. We didnt have a plan or the bowlers to stop the likes of Fakhar and we were brutally exposed .
 
For the first part: Again, players know that the reaction at most will last a week and will die down then. They'll stay with the team for many years to come and in fact might occupy very important positions in the circuit later. So, yeah, I think you are over-estimating the impact of a defeat vs India.

Not really. You did the old 'strawman' thing where you assumed that I meant careers will end after defeat to India, which I never did. But never mind.. :91:

For the second part: Now that is just poor math. You claimed that Pakistan has an 85% chance that they'll lose even if they bring their A-game. But now you are saying that if they both bring their A-game, Pak would 4/5 times? Do you not see how those are two different comparisons? You pulled that number out of thin air and have no facts to back it up.


It's a subjective thing. There's no fixed measure that we can use to determine whether a team is playing to it's full potential (A-game) or not so it's futile to ask for "facts". But it's not that hard to understand the logic behind my statement..

The core of this Indian team (Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli, Bhuvi, Shami, Ashwin, Jadeja etc) have won 9 out of the 11 games played against Pakistan. Winning probability - 82%

The core of this Pakistan team (Fakhar, Babar, Malik, Hasan, Shadab, Imad etc) have lost 4 out of the 5 games they've played against India. Losing probability - 80%.

So not really out of thin air.
 
Look at the ICC tournament knockout matches that we lost post CT '13 and let's apply your own criteria. We faced SL in world T20 2014 final, we did not face them at an earlier stage, CWC 2015 semifinal - We played Australia for the first time and we got knocked out, World T20 2016 -- we got knocked out playing WI for the first time, CWC 2019 - We got knocked out by NZ who we didnt play in the group stage.

Only in CT '17 did we choke and lose the plot against a team we dominated in the group stages. We didnt have a plan or the bowlers to stop the likes of Fakhar and we were brutally exposed .


I clearly said bilateral/group stages. Not both.

Can you tell me how many T20 bilateral series' we lost against Sri Lanka or West Indies before 2014 and 2016 respectively? Yes, a big fat zero.

2015 wasn't a choke as we lost to a much better team.

2021 wtc final was the biggest of all (yes even bigger than CT final). All we needed to do was bat an extra hour on a sunny morning and we couldn't even do that.
 
India won CT in 2013.

I know you love to whine and want others to believe at things which ain't reality. But didn't know that you were so ignorant lmao.

Whats wrong with you? its almost end of 2021 so that would make it 9 years? Your comments show desperation for hiding the fact India has not won nearly as much as they should have.
 
It is not that hard to understand.

Indian players have far more talent and skill than Pakistani players. So if the Indian players play well, Pakistan has no chance of winning the match even if our players play well.

For Pakistan to beat teams like India and England, simply playing well will not suffice. We also need teams like India and England to play well below their capability.

In other words, if both Pakistani and Indian players are in good form, India will win 10/10 times because their players are far better.

Again your comments make no sense usually if one team has a higher skill set that usually mean they are more consistent however if on the day both teams have a good day then the result usually hinge on small details / factors and if one bowler / batsman have a bingo day Amir CT style that usually mean game over for the other team.
 
I agree with this. Indians love cricket. Pakistanis have more discerning tastes in sports.

That's why Pakistan is diversifying in terms of sports followed. Increasing no of Pakistani sportspersons from non-cricketing sports are able go professional.

Thank you for still caring about cricket Pakhs. People like you are keeping cricket alive outside India.

I had CT17 final tickets but did not go knowing it was India v Pakistan final. Decided my Sunday would be better spent going on an adventure with friends. But its not about one person cricket fans in Pakistan do not care as much as they used to do in 80s/90s and going to cricket matches is now non-existent.

No doubt lack of quality international cricket at home has a lot to do with it but whatever the reason this is the reality.

Its also a well known fact that in countries like England, Australia, NZ, WI and SA cricket is not a popular sport.

So yeah again people should not get picky outside India which type of cricket / match they care about just be thankful they care about it at all.
 
Again your comments make no sense usually if one team has a higher skill set that usually mean they are more consistent however if on the day both teams have a good day then the result usually hinge on small details / factors and if one bowler / batsman have a bingo day Amir CT style that usually mean game over for the other team.

Not really ! Let me indulge a little.

If car is racing with bicycle,
Even if you put lance armstrong on the bike,
The bike can only win -
If the car driver has forgot to put gas
Or if there is earthquake in middle of race, and they have to carry their respective vehicles on back
Or if a car driver goes nuts

Things like that you see
 
I had CT17 final tickets but did not go knowing it was India v Pakistan final. Decided my Sunday would be better spent going on an adventure with friends. But its not about one person cricket fans in Pakistan do not care as much as they used to do in 80s/90s and going to cricket matches is now non-existent.

No doubt lack of quality international cricket at home has a lot to do with it but whatever the reason this is the reality.

Its also a well known fact that in countries like England, Australia, NZ, WI and SA cricket is not a popular sport.

So yeah again people should not get picky outside India which type of cricket / match they care about just be thankful they care about it at all.
I am always grateful for casual cricket fans. They may not get all the cricketing nitty-gritty but they are still valuable members of our family. Normies keep sport vibrant.
 
Not really ! Let me indulge a little.

If car is racing with bicycle,
Even if you put lance armstrong on the bike,
The bike can only win -
If the car driver has forgot to put gas
Or if there is earthquake in middle of race, and they have to carry their respective vehicles on back
Or if a car driver goes nuts

Things like that you see

This is the most dumb comparison I have ever read not even worth replying.
 
I am always grateful for casual cricket fans. They may not get all the cricketing nitty-gritty but they are still valuable members of our family. Normies keep sport vibrant.

Good! Cricket is mostly played in the subcontinent where its undisputed number 1 sport the only place actually. India has taken it rightful place as cricketing power house by default. Bangladesh and Pakistan are the other two countries who should be striving behind India as the next two in line but both have been struggling for different reasons.

Pakistan is struggling to keep its population interested in cricket due to many reason mainly not being able to bring quality cricket at home and Bangladesh is struggling to find its first truly great team to give them that break through.
 
I clearly said bilateral/group stages. Not both.

Can you tell me how many T20 bilateral series' we lost against Sri Lanka or West Indies before 2014 and 2016 respectively? Yes, a big fat zero.

2015 wasn't a choke as we lost to a much better team.

2021 wtc final was the biggest of all (yes even bigger than CT final). All we needed to do was bat an extra hour on a sunny morning and we couldn't even do that.

Bilateral T20's dont mean much because a side like West Indies only got their best 15 for major ICC tournaments whereas the rest if the time they are busy fighting with their own board or playing other leagues etc.

Those days, bilateral T20 series were not even regular. India did not play against SL in the 2014 World T20 cycle
 
Whats wrong with you? its almost end of 2021 so that would make it 9 years? Your comments show desperation for hiding the fact India has not won nearly as much as they should have.

I am pretty sure that you were not aware of our 2013 CT victory. Because you do make a lot of posts where u expose your lack of knowledge. I corrected you. Instead of accepting your mistake, you started whining again like a sore loser you are. At least know the facts before making posts else you will keep getting embarrassed here.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">People: Big match on Sunday. You're nervous, right?<br><br>Me: <a href="https://t.co/HXDWeKrYFR">pic.twitter.com/HXDWeKrYFR</a></p>— Virat Kohli (@imVkohli) <a href="https://twitter.com/imVkohli/status/1451073181251375112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">People: Big match on Sunday. You're nervous, right?<br><br>Me: <a href="https://t.co/HXDWeKrYFR">pic.twitter.com/HXDWeKrYFR</a></p>— Virat Kohli (@imVkohli) <a href="https://twitter.com/imVkohli/status/1451073181251375112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Every person milking the hype for rupees.

And our kaptaan is shameless enough to promote his third class lifestyle brand using the pregame hype
 
Every person milking the hype for rupees.

And our kaptaan is shameless enough to promote his third class lifestyle brand using the pregame hype
Fully agree with this.

Utter shamelessness from Kohli to promote his own brand. Are there any parallels of this instance when an active cricketer (captain of a national team, no less) promoted his own brand like this?
 
Fully agree with this.

Utter shamelessness from Kohli to promote his own brand. Are there any parallels of this instance when an active cricketer (captain of a national team, no less) promoted his own brand like this?

Our Kaptaan is a trailblazer. Nobody in Indian sports history has sunk as low as him for money.(not counting fixing)
 
Kohli’s friends are pestering him for tickets but Indian fans here say it’s just another game for them :)))

I am sure Indian fans are revved up for this contest. The thing about being present on the ground to watch India/Pak match is you get to say "I was there" for generations to come.
 
I am sure Indian fans are revved up for this contest. The thing about being present on the ground to watch India/Pak match is you get to say "I was there" for generations to come.

Yep

I was there when Pakistan played India at Edgebaston for the first group game of the CT.

I don’t ever want to tell anyone that this was the only India v Pakistan match I witnessed live…
 
Virat Kohli has said that pitches will be better in the T20 World Cup than they were in IPL as this is an ICC tournament and that he doesn't see many high scoring matches at Sharjah, expects better pitches at Dubai and Abu Dhabi.
 
T20 World Cup: Virat Kohli Wary Of Game-Changers In Pakistan Team, Says Will Have To Bring Our 'A' GameIndia vs Pakistan: Virat Kohli, speaking a day ahead of the marquee clash, said that Pakistan have many game-changers in their team and India will need to bring their "A game" to get the better of them.

India take on Pakistan in a much-awaited T20 World Cup Super 12 clash in Dubai on Sunday. This will be the first match for both teams in the ongoing T20 World Cup in Oman and the UAE. And while India are unbeaten in five T20 World Cup matches against Pakistan, India captain Virat Kohli is not taking things lightly. The Indian skipper, speaking a day ahead of the marquee clash, said that Pakistan have many game-changers in their team and India will need to bring their "A game" to come out on top.

"Pakistan are strong, you have to play your best cricket against them every time. They have players who are game-changers. We definitely have to bring our A game against Pakistan," Kohli said in the pre-match virtual press conference.

Going into the match, India are still sweating on star all-rounder Hardik Pandya's fitness. The 28-year-old played for the Mumbai Indians in the recently-concluded Indian Premier League (IPL) as a batting specialist, not even bowling a single over in the UAE leg.

Hardik's current inability to bowl has raised many questions about his place in the playing XI.

Speaking about Hardik, Virat Kohli said he is "getting better in terms of being prepared to bowl".

"We have spoken about our combinations but not going to reveal them right now. We are confident in terms of execution."

"I feel Hardik presently is getting better in terms of being prepared to bowl two overs for us. Till the time he starts bowling, we have created a few options for ourselves. What he offers at number 6 as a batter, we can't create something like that overnight," said the Indian captain.

India and Pakistan have clashed five time previously in T20 World Cups with the former winning all the matches.

India will be looking to make it in six in a row and put down an early marker in the tournament.

https://sports.ndtv.com/icc-t20-wor...am-says-will-have-to-bring-our-a-game-2585213
 
Transcript of Virat Kohli presser today:

Q. Can you just give us a sense about the sort of stuff that is being tried out with regard to combination over the last week or so, and if you can give us an idea about whether you have chosen the 11?

VIRAT KOHLI: Yeah, we have spoken about our combinations, obviously. I'm not going to reveal them right now, but we have put in place a very balanced team, and something that we feel covers all bases properly. And we are pretty confident in terms of execution, as well, because the guys have been playing a lot of T20 cricket recently in the IPL and everyone is playing well, so that is a very positive thing for the team.

Now it's purely down to execution out there in the middle, which everyone as I said is confident to do so and professional enough to understand their roles, and role clarity is something that we have addressed already. We feel very, very prepared.

Q. You surprised everyone with the decision to quit captaincy after the T20 World Cup; you gave a statement on Twitter, but if you could just tell us what prompted you to take such a decision and announce it before the World Cup.

VIRAT KOHLI: I've already explained myself a lot. I don't think I need to harp on that anymore.

Our focus is to play well in this World Cup and do what we need to do as a team. The rest, I mean, people are trying to dig something that doesn't exist, and I'm not someone who's ever going to give order to that. I explained myself very honestly and openly, and if people feel there's more to it or there's something that's not been told, I feel pretty bad for them because that's certainly not the case.

Q. As you have always maintained that for the team it's just another game of cricket, but outside the hysteria it creates, sometimes does it get difficult to completely switch off from the atmosphere?

VIRAT KOHLI: No, it does not. I mean, and it's a very situational thing because we are in a situation where we are in charge over what we need to do on the team, and we understand for that to happen, we need to be in the most balanced place possible. We feel pressure playing any kind of game, and it's also a thing to understand that as professional cricketers, you eventually start thinking about the situation that you're going to be in as batsmen and bowlers, or batters and bowlers, I should say, and it's very important for us to keep focused on that because a game like this, there's such unnecessary stuff from a professional point of view happening on the outside there. It's fine. It's fine, as long as that stays outside our controlled environment and we just focus on what we need to do as cricketers.

Hence I always maintain that for me it's never been different to any other game of cricket that we play. Yes, the atmosphere in the stadium is different, and our mindset is no different, our preparations are no different, and our approach to the game is also certainly no different.

Q. Rohit in the last warmup game, he said that hopefully Hardik Pandya will be good enough to bowl a few overs by the time the tournament starts. Just wanted to check if he's able to bowl now. And secondly, if he doesn't, does that go against him when it comes to selection, the playing 11? And B, how much will toss be a factor considering in the second half of the evening matches the dew comes into play?

VIRAT KOHLI: Well, honestly I feel that Hardik presently with his physical condition is getting better in terms of being prepared to bowl at least two overs for us at a certain stage in this tournament, and we believe, we strongly think that we can make the most of the opportunity that we have at hand until the time he starts bowling. We have considered a couple other options to chip in for an over or two. So we are not bothered about that at all.

What he brings at that No. 6 spot is something that you just can't create overnight, and hence I was always in favour of backing him in Australia as a backer purely, and we saw what he did in the T20 series and how he can take the game away from the opposition when he's in full flow.

These things from a discussion point of view seem very interesting that if he doesn't bowl will he be left out, but we understand the value he brings to the team as the No. 6 batter, and in world cricket if you look around, there are specialists who do that job, and it's very important to have that guy, especially in T20 cricket, who can play and impact innings of that stage. Even when the chips are down, he's someone who can play a long innings playing in that way.

For us that is way more valuable than forcing him to do something that he's not ready for at the moment, but he's motivated and he's very keen to start giving us a couple of overs, and when that happens, obviously the balance becomes even better, but we are pretty confident how we are heading into the start of this tournament.

Q. Over the years we've seen that whenever it's an India-Pakistan contest, it's generally the Pakistan bowlers versus the Indian batsmen. But this time around, obviously the Indian team itself has some of the best bowlers in the business. As a captain, how confident are you going into the game when you have a bowling lineup like that?

VIRAT KOHLI: We try and go into any game with absolute preparation, understanding of our plans, what we need to do against the opposition, and as long as we do that, we go in confident against any team in the world anywhere.

So for me to say that now we have great bowlers and we didn't have great bowlers before, I mean, we have won in T20 World Cups every time we have played them, so if it was only a case of our bowling being weak, then we probably shouldn't have won those games.

So I don't think on those lines. For me what matters is how the individuals are playing at that particular time, and what I can say is that all the people in the team are playing their roles to perfection, are executing their plans really, really well, and that gives us a lot of confidence heading into this tournament.

Q. You have seen the 30-odd matches played in the IPL and seen the quality of the pitches at all three venues. You are going to play many of your matches in Dubai and one in Abu Dhabi. Do you think within the last 10 days much work would have gone on the pitch, and will there be a significant change in the quality of the pitches?

VIRAT KOHLI: I believe so. Looking at the IPL finals, I believe that the quality of pitches definitely is going to be far better in this T20 World Cup. Also it being an ICC tournament, we know that the standard of pitches has to be maintained to a certain degree which is consistent across all venues, and I understand that to protect the pitches for a tournament like the World Cup, there had to be some kind of compromising done with the playing conditions when we played the IPL. We all understood that, and the wicket in the IPL finals was very, very good.

I think someone asked me about the dew factor, as well, and whether the toss was going to be important. I think the dew factor is becoming prominent as we head into this time of the year in Dubai, and that is also going to help the pitches play much better. I presume Abu Dhabi and Dubai are probably going to be the best pitches out of all the venues, and Sharjah more or less will stay true to its true nature, which is slow and low. I don't see many high scoring unless dew becomes such a massive factor there, as well, but yeah, wickets will be much better in this tournament.
 
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