Foreign powers helping the opposition in Pakistan right now

[Savak]

India obviously PML N and Nawaz Sharif for obvious reasons

Afghanistan will naturally follow India's dictats against Pakistan

Saudi Arabia unhappy with PTI and IK looking to get closer to Turkey and Malaysia will want PML N back in power

Any other countries with vested interests in Pakistani politics?

 

[MenInG]

Nothing new in this - India would love to see back of Imran Khan.

 

[Star_Coffee]

Nothing new in this - India would love to see back of Imran Khan.

A PM Pakistan desperately needed not only against domestic threats in the form of inadequate corrupt politicians but also against the foreign threats, his aggressiveness against the false narrative, mostly spread by India, has helped to neutralize that narrative.

 

[Loralai]

We really need to move beyond this conspiracy mindset where we think other countries are busy spending all their time and money trying to bring us down. Our history shows that we have been responsible for our own failings, whether in East Pakistan, KP/FATA, Balochistan or during the wars we have fought over Kashmir.

 

[Bewal Express]

You know you have the right person to take you forward when you look at who hates you. So far IK has not played this card well. If I was him, I would show Ind newspaper headlines and tell the people who they are supporting at every opportunity.

 

[Mesozoic]

Nothing new in this - India would love to see back of Imran Khan.

Not really though.

Everone here knows where the buck stops when it comes to Pakistan's foreign/India policy.

Not much of a difference if it's Imran or Zardari or Misbah.

 

[Bewal Express]

We really need to move beyond this conspiracy mindset where we think other countries are busy spending all their time and money trying to bring us down. Our history shows that we have been responsible for our own failings, whether in East Pakistan, KP/FATA, Balochistan or during the wars we have fought over Kashmir.

No let's not. Let's tell the truth about what they are doing. PK is on the FATF grey list, but just as much, if not more laundering is done by Ind and Britain. These crooks are putties in the hands of people that hate PK. BTW you ignored my question on Naqeeb on every post, why are you posting if you are too scared to debate.

 

[Syed1]

This just shows that IK is the right person for Pakistan. May he rule for 15 years.


Third straight month with a current account surplus!

 

[Nadeemp]

The army controls the policy regarding india. Makes no difference if its Imran, Zardari or Nawaz.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Same arguments are made by BJP followers for Modi.

Foreign powers and funding behind Congress.

Liberals hate Modi as he wears his religion on his sleeve.

Look Pakistan hates Modi, so he must be doing something right.

With so much toxic opposition, Modi keeps putting all that effort selflessly to build India.


The IK camp and Modi camp are sooo identical that its hilarious.

 

[JaDed]

Lol welcome to the “blame it on neighbor for ur issue” -syndrome.

I remember a user here saying with 100% belief that Pakistan will never win against India in cricket till Nawaz is the premier and lol then CT 2017 happened.

 

[Bewal Express]

The army controls the policy regarding india. Makes no difference if its Imran, Zardari or Nawaz.

The PK army and IK are both right. Modi has turned Ind into a fascist state. Are they wrong?

 

[Star_Coffee]

Same arguments are made by BJP followers for Modi.

Foreign powers and funding behind Congress.

Liberals hate Modi as he wears his religion on his sleeve.

Look Pakistan hates Modi, so he must be doing something right.

With so much toxic opposition, Modi keeps putting all that effort selflessly to build India.


The IK camp and Modi camp is sooo identical its hilarious.

No! nothing to expand on it since you haven't said anything substantial.

 

[Star_Coffee]

The army controls the policy regarding india. Makes no difference if its Imran, Zardari or Nawaz.

It definitely does, IK has narrated and neutralized false narrative spread by India.

Regarding foreign policy pertaining to India, it has always been about Kashmir and will continue to be.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

You forgot to add Israel and CIA and NATO to your OP List of Pakistan Haters.

 

[BreadPakoda]

No! nothing to expand on it since you haven't said anything substantial.

I'm not saying that IK and Modi are the same. And I'm sure both have some positives and some flaws. But their camps are made of an insecure bunch to the point that any criticism of their revered leader leads to a state of paranoia. This is a purely outsider view of someone having no liking for either of these two politicians.

 

[Star_Coffee]

I'm not saying that IK and Modi are the same. And I'm sure both have some positives and some flaws. But their camps are made of an insecure bunch to the point that any criticism of their revered leader leads to a state of paranoia. This is a purely outsider view of someone having no liking for either of these two politicians.

Nothing insecure about IK and Pakistani narrative, it was India PM who said he would do everything in his power to isolate Pakistan, it is India media which is continuously trying to feed false information about Pakistan, It is Indian government and Army which needed millions of troops in Kashmir, It was Indian PM right before elections who sent Indian Jets into Pakistani territories despite no evidence of Pakistani involvement (still waiting on the evidence) which turned out to be a huge embarrassment to India on every forum.

Pakistani PM and Pakistani are just highlighting that fact, I can't understand the equivalence.

 

[Syed1]

The army controls the policy regarding india. Makes no difference if its Imran, Zardari or Nawaz.

Before IK, when was our foreign policy this aggressive against India?


Heck Nawaz Sharif didn't even speak about Kulbhushan Yadav at the UN. His government did not even have a foreign minister.


The notion that the army sets the foreign policy is Indian fake propaganda. They definitely have a seat on the table. That is the case in every country, even the one whose flag you are proudly are flying.

 

[Mesozoic]

Same arguments are made by BJP followers for Modi.

Foreign powers and funding behind Congress.

Liberals hate Modi as he wears his religion on his sleeve.

Look Pakistan hates Modi, so he must be doing something right.

With so much toxic opposition, Modi keeps putting all that effort selflessly to build India.


The IK camp and Modi camp are sooo identical that its hilarious.

So true.

 

[JaDed]

Before IK, when was our foreign policy this aggressive against India?

1999 Loc, 1984-1993 grouping OIC against India..Khalistani , Kashmiri movements etc etc.

 

[Star_Coffee]

1999 Loc, 1984-1993 grouping OIC against India..Khalistani , Kashmiri movements etc etc.

Dates which came after Kashmir and 1971

 

[Bewal Express]

Same arguments are made by BJP followers for Modi.

Foreign powers and funding behind Congress.

Liberals hate Modi as he wears his religion on his sleeve.

Look Pakistan hates Modi, so he must be doing something right.

With so much toxic opposition, Modi keeps putting all that effort selflessly to build India.


The IK camp and Modi camp are sooo identical that its hilarious.

I know you are desperate but IK is nothing like the fascist Modi.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

I know you are desperate but IK is nothing like the fascist Modi.

Until Imran Khan not bring religious references to his rule and bans blasphemy law, he has nothing against Modi.

Both are tools. One wants Ram Rajya and other wants Madina Riyasat.

 

[Syed1]

I know you are desperate but IK is nothing like the fascist Modi.

LOL at the Indians trying to equate IK with Nazi-lite Modi.

 

[BreadPakoda]

I know you are desperate but IK is nothing like the fascist Modi.

You're probably one of the most insecure supporters but otherwise a very good poster.

Thankfully you're respectful to other posters. Otherwise any criticism of IK attracts noora, choor, choor ka beta etc taunts.

 

[JaDed]

Dates which came after Kashmir and 1971

Erm ok? which came after 1947,1965 lol.. I’m not arguing why Pak was aggressive I’m saying they have been aggressive before

 

[Star_Coffee]

Erm ok? which came after 1947,1965 lol.. I’m not arguing why Pak was aggressive I’m saying they have been aggressive before

Events of 1947 came to existence because Muslims of India realized and understood how they'd be treated in Hindu majority India.

1965 came after 1947

 

[JaDed]

Events of 1947 came to existence because Muslims of India realized and understood how they'd be treated in Hindu majority India.

1965 came after 1947

Ok boss way to miss the point second time.

 

[Star_Coffee]

Until Imran Khan not bring religious references to his rule and bans blasphemy law, he has nothing against Modi.

Both are tools. One wants Ram Rajya and other wants Madina Riyasat.

IK didn't vote for the Law nor able to end it at this juncture.

But IK isn't actively promoting hate speech against minorities nor supporting the change of names of Muslims sound names and cities, rather his government taken an initiative to promote religious tourism.

 

[Bigboii]

Even though this thread is hilarious and shows our siege mentality

but Its better to stay out cause I have to shows respect to supreme leader, lord and savior Imran Jon Khan which I just cant do so lets keep on lurking and look at the stand up comedy that's happening on this thread... peace out

 

[Star_Coffee]

Ok boss way to miss the point second time.

No Pakistan isn't an aggressor, it has always been India, example would be millions of troops in Kashmir and their role in separating East Pakistan.

 

[Star_Coffee]

Even though this thread is hilarious and shows our siege mentality

but Its better to stay out cause I have to shows respect to supreme leader, lord and savior Imran Jon Khan which I just cant do so lets keep on lurking and look at the stand up comedy that's happening on this thread... peace out

probably not as hilarious as cheesy pizza theory.

 

[Itachi]

Events of 1947 came to existence because Muslims of India realized and understood how they'd be treated in Hindu majority India.

1965 came after 1947

.... And that theory got vaporized when India remained united where as East Pakistan got broke off. Religion can not hold a country together.

Muslims can exploit Muslims too.

 

[Varun]

India is the obvious enemy of Pakistan, but the OP's question was:

Any other countries with vested interests in Pakistani politics?

My answers: USA, Israel, Iran, Bangladesh.

 

[Bewal Express]

You're probably one of the most insecure supporters but otherwise a very good poster.

Thankfully you're respectful to other posters. Otherwise any criticism of IK attracts noora, choor, choor ka beta etc taunts.

I am from a Kashmiri background,both sides of my family were from Kashmir, I still have my late mums cousins live there, so when you compare the fascism of Modi with tolerance of IK, don't be surprised. I want good relations between the 2, I want both Ind and PK to Spend less on defence on more on social welfare and as I have advocated on here, independence from both should be an option for Kashmiris, but we can't pretend that Modi and IK are equal, they are not.

 

[Bewal Express]

.... And that theory got vaporized when India remained united where as East Pakistan got broke off. Religion can not hold a country together.

Muslims can exploit Muslims too.

If the Tamils and other Southern States weren't Hindus, Ind wouldn't even be a country.

 

[Giannis]

We really need to move beyond this conspiracy mindset where we think other countries are busy spending all their time and money trying to bring us down. Our history shows that we have been responsible for our own failings, whether in East Pakistan, KP/FATA, Balochistan or during the wars we have fought over Kashmir.

The irony, that your people love to theorize about Pakistan's establishment being involved in everything yet when other people theorize the same about foreign powers then you resort to gaslighting. You fail to realize your own hypocrisy.

 

[Giannis]

.... And that theory got vaporized when India remained united where as East Pakistan got broke off. Religion can not hold a country together.

Muslims can exploit Muslims too.

Well Indians claim Hinduism and Hindu mythology holds india together, I believe the BJP-types have oft repeated to be an Indian is to be a Hindu.

 

[BreadPakoda]

I am from a Kashmiri background,both sides of my family were from Kashmir, I still have my late mums cousins live there, so when you compare the fascism of Modi with tolerance of IK, don't be surprised. I want good relations between the 2, I want both Ind and PK to Spend less on defence on more on social welfare and as I have advocated on here, independence from both should be an option for Kashmiris, but we can't pretend that Modi and IK are equal, they are not.

Read post 16. I didn't equate them.

 

[Savak]

Am reading that Saudi Arabia voted against removing Pakistan from the FATF Grey list?

 

[saeedhk]

^ Yes. According to reports, KSA voted against Pakistan regarding FATF.

 

[Waseem]

We really need to move beyond this conspiracy mindset where we think other countries are busy spending all their time and money trying to bring us down. Our history shows that we have been responsible for our own failings, whether in East Pakistan, KP/FATA, Balochistan or during the wars we have fought over Kashmir.

Yeah we must ignore Indians spreading "civil war" rumours, Modi spending half of his life trying to isolate Pakistan & using Afghans to spread terrorism. Close our eyes, nothing is happening in the world around us.

 

[Itachi]

If the Tamils and other Southern States weren't Hindus, Ind wouldn't even be a country.

That's where your mistake was. Countries don't unite on the basis of religion. It doesn't matter whether it is Islam or Hinduism or Christianity. Religion doesn't have the power to keep people together for longer amount of time period. Example being east and west Pakistan.

 

[Itachi]

Well Indians claim Hinduism and Hindu mythology holds india together, I believe the BJP-types have oft repeated to be an Indian is to be a Hindu.

I never claimed. I always maintained a stand that religion is too weak to keep people together. So quoting me for this is irrelevant here.

 

[Varun]

If the Tamils and other Southern States weren't Hindus, Ind wouldn't even be a country.

Bangladesh 'hahas' this post.