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Check out the video. There is apparently a new fad going on that promotes gender-neutral family. This is one of the most bizarre videos I have seen in my life. I thought I would share it here.

I personally think this is unfair for the children and these "parents" need psychiatric evaluations.

Discuss.
 
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Look at this.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. This is like straight from South Park.
 
I came to know about non binary only after I watched Billions, good show Taylor Mason real life and the character both were non binary gender neutral, their life their choice.
 
I came to know about non binary only after I watched Billions, good show Taylor Mason real life and the character both were non binary gender neutral, their life their choice.

Adults can do whatever. But, why are they brainwashing the kids? This is not good.
 
Adults can do whatever. But, why are they brainwashing the kids? This is not good.

Similar to religion.I do agree parents should allow kids to grow up and not brainwash them but who decides whats brainwashing? hopefully not teaching them hate and not breaking any laws that should be enough..
 
Religion follows the same trend. I don't know why you are objecting to this?

They follow an ideology and then incorporating it in their children. How religion is different than this?
 
Gender is not an ideology it is a fact.

The world has gone utterly mad.

Everything is relative.

In common ideology, gender is determined by sex organs.

In their ideology, gender is independent of sex organs.

Facts are itself relative to what you are setting standards from.
 
Adults can do whatever. But, why are they brainwashing the kids? This is not good.

You cannot brainwash sexuality. The child will grow up and be attracted to girls or boys or both or neither.

It’s simply not my business.
 
Its strange to somebody like me but there is far greater problems in the world. Good luck to them.
 
Gender is not an ideology it is a fact.

The world has gone utterly mad.

Chromosomes are a fact. Biological sex is a fact.

Gender is a social construct. What if a boy child wants to wear a dress instead of trousers? Or plays with dolls instead of football? Do you force him to wear trousers and play football? In which case are you not constructing his gender for him?
 
I have decided I am half my age because I'm referencing the time it takes for Mars to orbit the Sun [almost twice the time], after all, time is relative.

I demand a new option on all official forms giving me the choice to decide how old I am.
 
So the hypocrites that are always bashing Islam left right centre are here to defend this. It's amazing how these social justice warriors defend this but bash religion (especially islam) any opportunity they get. Hypocrites of the highest order. It's a trend I see alot on pp threads. Same people bash religion and as they say magical creature in sky but when comes to defending this LGBTQ rights. Oh it's their life they can choose to do whatever they want they are not harming anyone.
 
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So the hypocrites that are always bashing Islam left right centre are here to defend this. It's amazing how these social justice warriors defend this but bash religion (especially islam) any opportunity they get. Hypocrites of the highest order. It's a trend I see alot on pp threads. Same people bash religion and as they say magical creature in sky but when comes to defending this LGBTQ rights. Oh it's their life they can choose to do whatever they want they are not harming anyone.

The people who are defending it are non-Muslims to be fair. Robert is a Brit and it's considered ok here publicly, although privately many people still don't like it.

The other two are Indians, and maybe they want to see gender neutral society take shape in India. I am always there to support them if that is their vision for their country.
 
You cannot brainwash sexuality. The child will grow up and be attracted to girls or boys or both or neither.

It’s simply not my business.

This is not about attraction though. These folks believe they have no genders. It is like me claiming I am an elephant (even though clearly I am a human being).

I think we need to cure these people instead of encouraging their madness.
 
The people who are defending it are non-Muslims to be fair. Robert is a Brit and it's considered ok here publicly, although privately many people still don't like it.

The other two are Indians, and maybe they want to see gender neutral society take shape in India. I am always there to support them if that is their vision for their country.

Nope. I see gender neutrality as rediculous as religion. From my perspective, I reject both.

But issue comes when someone accepts one concept but not the other which is the actual hypocrisy. That's where justification of gender neutrality comes.

Since both follow same principles, either accept both or reject both.
 
Nope. I see gender neutrality as rediculous as religion. From my perspective, I reject both.

But issue comes when someone accepts one concept but not the other which is the actual hypocrisy. That's where justification of gender neutrality comes.

Since both follow same principles, either accept both or reject both.

So you are unable to discuss gender neutrality without discussing religion as a whataboutism? Can't you discuss each topic on it's own merit?
 
So you are unable to discuss gender neutrality without discussing religion as a whataboutism? Can't you discuss each topic on it's own merit?

No entity is an "isolated entity" in human scoiety. When you talk about something, you talk about it with respect to another subject.

This a qupte from OP.

I personally think this is unfair for the children and these "parents" need psychiatric evaluations.

Why psychiatric evaluation of the parents were brought upon in the first place? Shouldn't we just discuss about gender neutrality without requiring to force those parents to have psychiatric evaluation?

If we indeed agree to force those parents to psychiatric evaluation for their ideology, why not send all those people who believe in the same ideology?

Every entity is related to each other. If i am talking about einstein theory of relativity, I'll have to drag Newton and others with it because you explain an "X" subject with a reference from "Y" subject. You can't discuss an "X" subject right from the zero (which could have been possible had it was the first entity that was created at the big bang but sadly, gender neutrality is not one of those).
 
No entity is an "isolated entity" in human scoiety. When you talk about something, you talk about it with respect to another subject.

This a qupte from OP.



Why psychiatric evaluation of the parents were brought upon in the first place? Shouldn't we just discuss about gender neutrality without requiring to force those parents to have psychiatric evaluation?

If we indeed agree to force those parents to psychiatric evaluation for their ideology, why not send all those people who believe in the same ideology?

Every entity is related to each other. If i am talking about einstein theory of relativity, I'll have to drag Newton and others with it because you explain an "X" subject with a reference from "Y" subject. You can't discuss an "X" subject right from the zero (which could have been possible had it was the first entity that was created at the big bang but sadly, gender neutrality is not one of those).

Fine, then why don't you tell us why western countries are wrong to continue down the path of gender neutral families from an Indian perspective?
 
You are either a man or a woman. You can't be anything else.

A person's gender is determined at birth. If someone has male organ, he is a male. If not, she is a female.

There are apparently 100 genders now which is ridiculous. Here is the list:

Abimegender: a gender that is profound, deep, and infinite; meant to resemble when one mirror is reflecting into another mirror creating an infinite paradox

Adamasgender: a gender which refuses to be categorized

Aerogender: a gender that is influenced by your surroundings

Aesthetigender: a gender that is derived from an aesthetic; also known as videgender

Affectugender: a gender that is affected by mood swings

Agender: the feeling of no gender/absence of gender or neutral gender

Agenderflux: Being agender and having fluctuating feelings of masculinity of femininity, but NOT male or female

Alexigender: a gender that is fluid between more than one gender but the individual cannot tell what those genders are

Aliusgender: a gender which is removed from common gender descriptors and guidelines

Amaregender: a gender that changes depending on who you’re in love with

Ambigender: defined as having the feeling of two genders simultaneously without fluctuation; meant to reflect the concept of being ambidextrous, only with gender

Ambonec: identifying as both man and woman, yet neither at the same time

Amicagender: a gender that changes depending on which friend you’re with

Androgyne: sometimes used in the case of “androgynous presentation”; describes the feeling of being a mix of both masculine and feminine (and sometimes neutral) gender qualities

Anesigender: feeling like a certain gender yet being more comfortable identifying with another

Angenital: a desire to be without primary sexual characteristics, without necessarily being genderless; one may be both angenital and identify as any other gender alongside

Anogender: a gender that fades in and out but always comes back to the same feeling

Anongender: a gender that is unknown to both yourself and others

Antegender: a protean gender which has the potential to be anything, but is formless and motionless, and therefore, does not manifest as any particular gender

Anxiegender: a gender that is affected by anxiety

Apagender: a feeling of apathy towards ones gender which leads to them not looking any further into it

Apconsugender: a gender where you know what it isn’t, but not what it is; the gender is hiding itself from you

Astergender: a gender that feels bright and celestial

Astralgender: a gender that feels connected to space

Autigender: a gender that can only be understood in the context of being autistic. Meant for autistic people only.

Autogender: a gender experience that is deeply personal to oneself

Axigender: when a person experiences two genders that sit on opposite ends of an axis; one being agender and the other being any other gender; these genders are experienced one at a time with no overlapping and with very short transition time.

Bigender: the feeling of having two genders either at the same time or separately; usually used to describe feeling “traditionally male” and “traditionally female”, but does not have to

Biogender: a gender that feels connected to nature in some way

Blurgender: the feeling of having more than one gender that are somehow blurred together to the point of not being able to distinguish or identify individual genders; synonymous with genderfuzz

Boyflux: when one feels mostly or all male most of the time but experience fluctuating intensity of male identity

Burstgender: and gender that comes in intense bursts of feeling and quickly fades back to the original state

Caelgender: a gender which shares qualities with outer space or has the aesthetic of space, stars, nebulas, etc.

Cassgender: the feeling of gender is unimportant to you

Cassflux: when the level of indifference towards your gender fluctuates

Cavusgender: for people with depression; when you feel one gender when not depressed and another when depressed

Cendgender: when your gender changes between one and its opposite

Ceterofluid: when you are ceterogender and your feelings fluctuate between masculine, feminine, and neutral

Ceterogender: a nonbinary gender with specific masculine, feminine, or neutral feelings

Cisgender: the feeling of being the gender you were assigned at birth, all the time (assigned (fe)male/feeling (fe)male)

Cloudgender: a gender that cannot be fully realized or seen clearly due to depersonalization/derealization disorder

Collgender: the feeling of having too many genders simultaneously to describe each one

Colorgender: a gender associated with one or more colors and the feelings, hues, emotions, and/or objects associated with that color; may be used like pinkgender, bluegender, yellowgender

Commogender: when you know you aren’t cisgender, but you settled with your assigned gender for the time being

Condigender: a gender that is only felt during certain circumstances

Deliciagender: from the Latin word delicia meaning “favorite”, meaning the feeling of having more than one simultaneous gender yet preferring one that fits better

Demifluid: the feeling your gender being fluid throughout all the demigenders; the feeling of having multiple genders, some static and some fluid

Demiflux: the feeling of having multiple genders, some static and some fluctuating

Demigender: a gender that is partially one gender and partially another

Domgender: having more than one gender yet one being more dominant than the others

Demi-vapor (term coined by @cotton-blossom-jellyfish): Continuously drifting to other genders, feeling spiritually transcendental when doing so while having a clear -slightly blurred- inner visual of your genders, transitions, and positive emotions. Tied to Demi-Smoke.

Demi-smoke (term coined by @cotton-blossom-jellyfish): A transcendental, spiritual gender roughly drifting to other genders that are unable to be foreseen and understood, shrouded in darkness within your inner visual. Elevating through mystery. Caused by a lack of inner interpretation and dark emotional states. Tied to Demi-Vapor.

Duragender: from the Latin word dura meaning “long-lasting”, meaning a subcategory of multigender in which one gender is more identifiable, long lasting, and prominent than the other genders

Egogender: a gender that is so personal to your experience that it can only be described as “you”

Epicene: sometimes used synonymously with the adjective “androgynous”; the feeling either having or not displaying characteristics of both or either binary gender; sometimes used to describe feminine male identifying individuals

Espigender: a gender that is related to being a spirit or exists on a higher or extradimensional plane

Exgender: the outright refusal to accept or identify in, on, or around the gender spectrum

Existigender: a gender that only exists or feels present when thought about or when a conscious effort is made to notice it

Female: one of two binary genders where one feels fully and completely female; can and is used in conjunction with other gender labels and identities

Femfluid: having fluctuating or fluid gender feelings that are limited to feminine genders

Femgender: a nonbinary gender which is feminine in nature

Fluidflux: the feeling of being fluid between two or more genders that also fluctuate in intensity; a combination of genderfluid and genderflux

Gemigender: having two opposite genders that work together, being fluid and flux together

Genderblank: a gender that can only be described as a blank space; when gender is called into question, all that comes to mind is a blank space

Genderflow: a gender that is fluid between infinite feelings

Genderfluid: the feeling of fluidity within your gender identity; feeling a different gender as time passes or as situations change; not restricted to any number of genders

Genderflux: the feeling of your gender fluctuating in intensity; like genderfluid but between one gender and agender

Genderfuzz: coined by lolzmelmel; the feeling of having more than one gender that are somehow blurred together to the point of not being able to distinguish or identify individual genders; synonymous with blurgender

Gender Neutral: the feeling of having a neutral gender, whether somewhere in between masculine and feminine or a third gender that is separate from the binary; often paired with neutrois

Genderpunk: a gender identity that actively resists gender norms

Genderqueer: originally used as an umbrella term for nonbinary individuals; may be used as an identity; describes a nonbinary gender regardless of whether the individual is masculine or feminine leaning

Genderwitched: a gender in which one is intrigued or entranced by the idea of a particular gender, but is not certain that they are actually feeling it

Girlflux: when one feels mostly or all female most of the time but experiences fluctuating intensities of female identity

Glassgender: a gender that is very sensitive and fragile

Glimragender: a faintly shining, wavering gender

Greygender: having a gender that is mostly outside of the binary but is weak and can barely be felt

Gyragender: having multiple genders but understanding none of them

Healgender: a gender that once realized, brings lots of peace, clarity, security, and creativity to the individual’s mind

Heliogender: a gender that is warm and burning

Hemigender: a gender that is half one gender and half something else; one or both halves may be identifiable genders

Horogender: a gender that changes over time with the core feeling remaining the same

Hydrogender: a gender which shares qualities with water

Imperigender: a fluid gender that can be controlled by the individual

Intergender: the feeling of gender falling somewhere on the spectrum between masculine and feminine. Meant for intersex people only

Juxera: a feminine gender similar to girl, but on a separate plane and off to itself

Libragender: a gender that feels agender but has a strong connection to another gender

Male: one of two binary genders where one feels fully and completely male; can and is used in conjunction with other gender labels and identities

Magigender: a gender that is mostly gender and the rest is something else

Mascfluid: A gender that is fluid in nature, and restricted only to masculine genders

Mascgender: a non-binary gender which is masculine in nature.

Maverique: taken from the word maverick; the feeling of having a gender that is separate from masculinity, femininity, and neutrality, but is not agender; a form of third gender

Mirrorgender: a gender that changes to fit the people around you

Molligender: a gender that is soft, subtle, and subdued

Multigender: the feeling of having more than one simultaneous or fluctuating gender; simultaneous with multigenderand omnigender

Nanogender: feeling a small part of one gender with the rest being something else

Neutrois: the feeling of having a neutral gender; sometimes a lack of gender that leads to feeling neutral

Nonbinary: originally an umbrella term for any gender outside the binary of cisgenders; may be used as an individual identity; occasionally used alongside of genderqueer

Omnigender: the feeling of having more than one simultaneous or fluctuating gender; simultaneous with multigenderand polygender

Oneirogender: coined by anonymous, “being agender, but having recurring fantasies or daydreams of being a certain gender without the dysphoria or desire to actually be that gender day-to-day”

Pangender: the feeling of having every gender; this is considered problematic by some communities and thus has been used as the concept of relating in some way to all genders as opposed to containing every gender identity; only applies to genders within one’s own culture

Paragender: the feeling very near one gender and partially something else which keeps you from feeling fully that gender

Perigender: identifying with a gender but not as a gender

Polygender: the feeling of having more than one simultaneous or fluctuating gender; simultaneous with multigenderand omnigender

Proxvir: a masculine gender similar to boy, but on a separate plane and off to itself

Quoigender: feeling as if the concept of gender is inapplicable or nonsensical to one’s self

Subgender: mostly agender with a bit of another gender

Surgender: having a gender that is 100% one gender but with more of another gender added on top of that

Systemgender: a gender that is the sum of all the genders within a multiple or median system

Tragender: a gender that stretches over the whole spectrum of genders

Transgender: any gender identity that transcends or does not align with your assigned gender or society’s idea of gender; the feeling of being any gender that does not match your assigned gender

Transneutral: A term used to describe transgender people who were assigned male or female at birth, but identify with neutral gendered feelings to a greater extent than with femininity or masculinity. It is used the same way as “transfeminine” or “transmasculine”, but for neutral feelings. It can be used to describe gendered feelings, or as a gender itself.

Trigender: the feeling of having three simultaneous or fluctuating genders

Vapogender: a gender that sort of feels like smoke; can be seen on a shallow level but once you go deeper, it disappears and you are left with no gender and only tiny wisps of what you thought it was

Venngender: when two genders overlap creating an entirely new gender; like a venn diagram

Verangender: a gender that seems to shift/change the moment it is identified

Vibragender: a gender that is usually one stable gender but will occasionally changes or fluctuate before stabilizing again

Vocigender: a gender that is weak or hollow.

Source: https://genderfluidsupport.tumblr.com/gender.
 
Fine, then why don't you tell us why western countries are wrong to continue down the path of gender neutral families from an Indian perspective?

Gender is social construct and I believe it should stay the way it is.

As i said, Everything is defined with respect to taking another entity as standard. For centuries, gender was defined based upon genital organs of an individual.

I come from a medical field and this gender neutrality becomes meaningless in that field. While you will write gender neutrality in every other application, but while filling up a medical form, you will write the gender based upon genital organ which violates their gender neutrality ideology. When there's such a big conflict where you will change your standard like that, then it loses the gravity in my point.
 
Gender is social construct and I believe it should stay the way it is.

As i said, Everything is defined with respect to taking another entity as standard. For centuries, gender was defined based upon genital organs of an individual.

I come from a medical field and this gender neutrality becomes meaningless in that field. While you will write gender neutrality in every other application, but while filling up a medical form, you will write the gender based upon genital organ which violates their gender neutrality ideology. When there's such a big conflict where you will change your standard like that, then it loses the gravity in my point.

You could have just wrote that in your first post and no one would have had an issue with it. Instead you wanted to focus on religion of OP...which again would be fine if you were prepared to say your own opinion from an Indian POV. Which you still didn't do by the way, but that's ok.
 
You could have just wrote that in your first post and no one would have had an issue with it. Instead you wanted to focus on religion of OP...which again would be fine if you were prepared to say your own opinion from an Indian POV. Which you still didn't do by the way, but that's ok.

Whats "Indian POV"? If you can define that point of view, I'll surely give mine.
 
Gender is social construct and I believe it should stay the way it is.

Disagree.

It is universally agreed upon who is a male and who is a female. It is not a social construct; it is something that is natural and biological.
 
Disagree.

It is universally agreed upon who is a male and who is a female. It is not a social construct; it is something that is natural and biological.

genital organs are biological. Gender is a social construct that used to be based upon genital organs. Once you change the criteria, gender changes but since genital organs remain same, "sex" is unchanged.
 
It's their wish, just like parents can teach their children any religion. To try and stop this is a very slippery slope that could lead to governments suppressing the rights of parents to educate their children
 
genital organs are biological. Gender is a social construct that used to be based upon genital organs. Once you change the criteria, gender changes but since genital organs remain same, "sex" is unchanged.

Well, if you go to most countries and say you are non-binary or one of the hundred genders, you would probably get sent to a mental hospital (and rightly so).

Gender studies is comical.
 
What a bunch of nonsense. Let a child be a child instead of confusing them with such nonsense.
 
Well, if you go to most countries and say you are non-binary or one of the hundred genders, you would probably get sent to a mental hospital (and rightly so).

Gender studies is comical.

whilst i myself don't agree with gender neutrality, your logic doesn't hold any gravity either.

Once, if you stated that the earth revolves round the sun, you would have been hanged let alone sending to mental asylum. But where are we now?
 
Unsurprisingly, the Mullahs on this forum are enraged by this as it doesn't fit the 2x2 box their holy book has drawn for them to understand the world. I do agree that bringing children into the equation is tricky, but the most important ingredient in nurturing a child is love and if parents (regardless of gender) can provide that, they are 80% there in raising a healthy child.

The irony of the Mullahs here looking out for children, yet ignoring the brainwashing and fear mongering that is part of every child's experience growing up in a religious household is laughable. That religious brainwashing breeds bigoted, hate-filled and intolerant menaces to modern society, many of whom are present in this thread.
 
Unsurprisingly, the Mullahs on this forum are enraged by this as it doesn't fit the 2x2 box their holy book has drawn for them to understand the world. I do agree that bringing children into the equation is tricky, but the most important ingredient in nurturing a child is love and if parents (regardless of gender) can provide that, they are 80% there in raising a healthy child.

The irony of the Mullahs here looking out for children, yet ignoring the brainwashing and fear mongering that is part of every child's experience growing up in a religious household is laughable. That religious brainwashing breeds bigoted, hate-filled and intolerant menaces to modern society, many of whom are present in this thread.

You don't have to be a Mullah to see the absurdity in gender neutrality.

Piers Morgan is definitely not a Mullah and he is a harsh critic of it. I bet most people (Muslims and non-Muslims) find it ridiculous.

If I call myself a horse, it doesn't mean I have become a horse. I think this is a clinical delusion and it should be cured using medicine/therapy.
 
Unsurprisingly, the Mullahs on this forum are enraged by this as it doesn't fit the 2x2 box their holy book has drawn for them to understand the world. I do agree that bringing children into the equation is tricky, but the most important ingredient in nurturing a child is love and if parents (regardless of gender) can provide that, they are 80% there in raising a healthy child.

The irony of the Mullahs here looking out for children, yet ignoring the brainwashing and fear mongering that is part of every child's experience growing up in a religious household is laughable. That religious brainwashing breeds bigoted, hate-filled and intolerant menaces to modern society, many of whom are present in this thread.

Look if you want to call posters on this thread Mullahs, I have no problem with it, but then I would ask for Mods to allow me to refer to posters I don't agree with as Kiddie Fiddlers as they like to fiddle with kids minds.
 
Insanity should not be confused with freedom of choice.

A man who “feels” like a woman deserves help and treatment, not facilitation of his insanity and delusion.

The west is going too far with freedom of choice.
 
A POV that you would be happy for your country to stand behind.

How will 1.3 Billion have same POV? Am sure the right wing ruling govn right now will completely not agree with me on gender neutrality.

Are you saying you will make an Indian PoV based on two Indian users here?
 
Look if you want to call posters on this thread Mullahs, I have no problem with it, but then I would ask for Mods to allow me to refer to posters I don't agree with as Kiddie Fiddlers as they like to fiddle with kids minds.

“Kiddie fiddlers “ we can use that for multiple things, good one.
 

This person considers herself as "gender fluid". It means she considers herself as a man or a woman depending on her mood.

I am speechless.
 

This person considers herself as "gender fluid". It means she considers herself as a man or a woman depending on her mood.

I am speechless.
Yo who the hell is this dude 😂 😂 wth is going on
 
Yo who the hell is this dude �� �� wth is going on

Free-spirited Tabitha Downs-King goes to bed each night not *knowing whether she will wake up a man or a woman.

That’s because she is “gender fluid” – meaning some days she identifies as *female and other days she is male.

Tabitha, born a girl, loves makeup, *patterned tights and heels.

But on the days she feels male, she dons her man-clothes, complete with padded-crotched trousers, and steps out as Tate.

Dressed as Tate, she draws shocked glances from passersbys and is regularly berated for using men’s toilets.

Tabitha, 20, even claims being gender fluid is the reason she’s been unable to get a job. She said: “Each morning, it takes me a few minutes to grasp whether I am Tabitha or Tate.

“It really depends on how I am feeling, and I can switch from one gender to the other throughout the course of the day.

“Some might find this hard to *understand but why should a person be defined by what is between their legs?

“I’m not going to pretend it is easy *being both a man and a woman because I face discrimination every day from those who don’t understand the idea that *gender isn’t fixed.

“I’ve been passed over for hundreds of jobs and I’ve even been beaten up but it’s made me a stronger person and I’ll never change who I am.”

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-spend-half-week-woman-11100853.
 
How will 1.3 Billion have same POV? Am sure the right wing ruling govn right now will completely not agree with me on gender neutrality.

Are you saying you will make an Indian PoV based on two Indian users here?

No, I am saying if you are going to criticise a person based on his religion, then you should at least be prepared to say this is what I believe in for my country. It is still a personal view, but you are then giving it some social context same as you are giving for OP.
 
There are actual issues in the world. I’m not sensitive enough to be troubled by this. Watch people now use stuff like this as an excuse to support fascists
 
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Look at this.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. This is like straight from South Park.

i've this kind of stuff so much that i'm not even surprised anymore.
This type of stuff is popping up in the west because they have nothing else to do.

you're very unlikely to see this kind of stuff in the SC as there are more important problems there
 
whilst i myself don't agree with gender neutrality, your logic doesn't hold any gravity either.

Once, if you stated that the earth revolves round the sun, you would have been hanged let alone sending to mental asylum. But where are we now?

There are only two genders.

You're either a male or a female.

Nothing in between.
 
Left wing nonsense. The same left that most of you vote for.

Most muslims vote for the lesser of the two evils
you actually think we agree with this homosexuality stuff that the labour party promotes?
obviously not.

But as the conversatives don't view muslims very favourably, we vote for labour as they don't see us like that.

what "we" vote for in our homeland is considered the right wing too. same concept as the UK but the muslim version
 
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Imagine going to airport and airport folks trying to screen you.

If there are hundreds of genders, it can become a logistical nightmare in terms of security.
 
Why are you bringing Quran here? This is not a religious thread.

You don't need Quran to know there are two genders (male and female).

Because for Muslims, Islam is an ideology (not only a religion) which is interlinked with every aspect of life. So I am trying to understand what Quran says about gender differentiation.

Are you stating that quran has no relevance to the thread?
 
Because for Muslims, Islam is an ideology (not only a religion) which is interlinked with every aspect of life. So I am trying to understand what Quran says about gender differentiation.

Are you stating that quran has no relevance to the thread?

It is obvious Quran only talks about two genders. Something ridiculous like gender neutrality was not even a thing 50 years ago.

Only a mental patient would think there are more than two genders.

Again, this is not a religious thread. I doubt any religion supports this crap.
 
It is obvious Quran only talks about two genders. Something ridiculous like gender neutrality was not even a thing 50 years ago.

Only a mental patient would think there are more than two genders.

Again, this is not a religious thread. I doubt any religion supports this crap.

Do you believe Islam is only a religion or a way of life which puts directives in every aspect of life including basic subjects such as sex, gender etc?
 
It is obvious Quran only talks about two genders. Something ridiculous like gender neutrality was not even a thing 50 years ago.

Only a mental patient would think there are more than two genders.

Again, this is not a religious thread. I doubt any religion supports this crap.

So you don't accept transgenders as humans? the one's who are genuinely born with a medical issue because the religion doesn't accept them?
 
So you don't accept transgenders as humans? the one's who are genuinely born with a medical issue because the religion doesn't accept them?

Pakistan is one of the few countries who actually accept transgenders for who they are.
Muslims accept that transgenders have been born that way.

So what r u on about?
 
Do you believe Islam is only a religion or a way of life which puts directives in every aspect of life including basic subjects such as sex, gender etc?
You looked at that gender fluid freak is there an explanation for it leave religion just look at him and as a human being would you be ok with him (like would you hire him or give him a gender fluid passport)
 
Pakistan is one of the few countries who actually accept transgenders for who they are.
Muslims accept that transgenders have been born that way.

So what r u on about?
I have honestly never heard people having any problems with transgender except for in West (sure there is discrimination but there is no religious reason it's more of the way societies for so many years have ran around the globe)
 
I have honestly never heard people having any problems with transgender except for in West (sure there is discrimination but there is no religious reason it's more of the way societies for so many years have ran around the globe)

Just look at the video. Listen to the countries he’s calling out and look at the guy’s reply.

In the west, transgenders are seen as freaks who pretend to be the opposite sex but in Pakistan, they are just seen as people who were born in this way. Obviously there is discrimination against them but at least pakistanis accept them.
Look at the comments under the “first transgender news anchor of Pakistan” video. Nearly all were supporting the anchor.
 
How many have you actually read in to or researched this topic.

Lots of blanket view, no substance.

The definition of ignorance.
 
How many have you actually read in to or researched this topic.

Lots of blanket view, no substance.

The definition of ignorance.

Exactly. But what else can be expected from the “anti sjw” crowd. These guys have an agenda that stems from their bigotry.
 
Pakistan is one of the few countries who actually accept transgenders for who they are.
Muslims accept that transgenders have been born that way.

So what r u on about?

Did you see the post I was responding to? The poster was saying that the religious book only has 2 genders in it. So I asked him his views on transgenders.

If Pakistan is going out of it's way regardless of what is mentioned in religion and treating these people with compassion, then that is something that deserves praise.
 
How many have you actually read in to or researched this topic.

Lots of blanket view, no substance.

The definition of ignorance.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand how many genders there are.

Don't tell me you are also "gender fluid".
 
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand how many genders there are.

Don't tell me you are also "gender fluid".

I think as someone mentioned above there is Sex that is Male/Female/Trans and Gender is more social norms like for example let us say eg; Men have to work and women have to cook and raise children or women cannot do certain things or man cannot do certain things.

That seems to be more of the literal definition .

Usually I think in SC we think both Sex and gender are same that is where the confusion is but based on below I agree, there shouldn't be any discrimination or hypocrisy on what a man can do and what a woman cannot.



gen·der

/ˈjendər/






noun

noun: gender; plural noun: genders




1.


either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female
 
Well I don't know if as a parent we tell our daughter that she is not less than boys and can pursue athletics etc and tell our sons that it is ok to learn how to cook or be self sufficient by learning basic household chores I don't see anything wrong with that if that is what Gender neutrality means.
 
Why’re you bringing the Quran into this?

Because the thought process of a muslim is guided by Quran in any aspect of life. All the people who condemning it, are also principle abiding Muslims as stated in other threads. So I am trying to understand where does Quran stands on it. Because if Quran doesn't agree with the title, then all the judgements are meaningless because as a Muslim, you are going against your own principles.
 
On topic though these new age terms are so confusing and stupid. If my understanding of gender neutrality means men and women are equal and there is no set rule what they should be doing that is basic common sense and humanity.
 
Because the thought process of a muslim is guided by Quran in any aspect of life. All the people who condemning it, are also principle abiding Muslims as stated in other threads. So I am trying to understand where does Quran stands on it. Because if Quran doesn't agree with the title, then all the judgements are meaningless because as a Muslim, you are going against your own principles.

The other addition I’d make is that they haven’t even studied Islam let alone gender fluidity.
 
LOL at all these "woke" people.... all their woke-ness will go to take a dump when their own son comes upto them and says dad I want to be a girl
 
LOL at all these "woke" people.... all their woke-ness will go to take a dump when their own son comes upto them and says dad I want to be a girl

If my son does this in Bangladesh, he would go to mental hospital.

If my son does this in Canada, he would be kicked out of home.
 
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