Gender neutral family - what is this nonsense?

[sweep_shot]

The other addition I’d make is that they haven’t even studied Islam let alone gender fluidity.

So, you (an atheist) know more about Islam than those who are practicing? Sounds legit.

You seem like you believe in more than 2 genders. What is your gender? Is it biogender?

 

[miandadrules]

If my son does this in Bangladesh, he would go to mental hospital.

If my son does this in Canada, he would be kicked out of home.

What a horrible thing to do.

 

[miandadrules]

So, you (an atheist) know more about Islam than those who are practicing? Sounds legit.

You seem like you believe in more than 2 genders. What is your gender? Is it biogender?

I know more about Islam than you.

More than happy to put my knowledge against you.

What does my gender have to do with anything. Are you trying suggest that one can only defend a position if they have vested interest? Disgusting .

 

[sweep_shot]

I know more about Islam than you.

More than happy to put my knowledge against you.

What does my gender have to do with anything. Are you trying suggest that one can only defend a position if they have vested interest? Disgusting .

I don't claim to know everything and it is quite possible that you know more than me. But, if you really knew the faith well, you probably wouldn't have been an atheist.

The way you are defending gender neutrals and gender fluids, it seems like you are one of them.

 

[JaDed]

I don't claim to know everything and it is quite possible that you know more than me. But, if you really knew the faith well, you probably wouldn't have been an atheist.

The way you are defending gender neutrals and gender fluids, it seems like you are one of them.

Got to say am amused you triggered lol. You clearly are offended at this and unable to come up with a coherent response.

How is it on the other side when brainwashing is other way round? I’m sure these are ver few people for you to be that bothered about.

 

[miandadrules]

I don't claim to know everything and it is quite possible that you know more than me. But, if you really knew the faith well, you probably wouldn't have been an atheist.

The way you are defending gender neutrals and gender fluids, it seems like you are one of them.

Keep your ignorance to yourself.

 

[sweep_shot]

Got to say am amused you triggered lol. You clearly are offended at this and unable to come up with a coherent response.

How is it on the other side when brainwashing is other way round? I’m sure these are ver few people for you to be that bothered about.

He didn't offend me. What he said was subjective and it didn't bother me.

I just didn't want to waste my time writing a big response as he is quite stubborn.

 

[JaDed]

He didn't offend me. What he said was subjective and it didn't bother me.

I just didn't want to waste my time writing a big response as he is quite stubborn.

Well he gives reasons and sources, He corrected my misconceptions as well before.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Keep your ignorance to yourself.

You always find a way to fight with someone.
In EVERY SINGLE thread.

If you're gonna get aggressive towards everyone just because they don't agree with you then keep your opinion to yourself as you clearly can't respect others'

 

[Ronaldo7]

Got to say am amused you triggered lol. You clearly are offended at this and unable to come up with a coherent response.

How is it on the other side when brainwashing is other way round? I’m sure these are ver few people for you to be that bothered about.

In what world does that type of response show he's triggered?
It was a calm and well composed response.

Unlike yours, where you're resorting to a "haha you're triggered" "haha you're offended" type response.

 

[Ronaldo7]

People here are actually defending this gender fluidity b-s.

Now i understand why most people hate liberals and feminists

Next thing you know, someone will come out and say "i identify myself as an alien" lol

oh wait... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cffyclpEo2s

 

[miandadrules]

You always find a way to fight with someone.
In EVERY SINGLE thread.

If you're gonna get aggressive towards everyone just because they don't agree with you then keep your opinion to yourself as you clearly can't respect others'

What do you object to what I said. More than happy to clear up your confusion.

I think I’ll express my opinions unabashed.

Feel free to counter points with valid evidence. So, you can exhibit that you’ve reached your understanding through research and study, rather than parroting prejudicial views that you’ve been indoctrinated with.

What analysis have you done to reach your conclusions. Now that would be a good point to start a discussion.

Let’s see how you fair.

 

[troodon]

Far left is as dangerous as far right. I am all in favor of gays and bi-sexual equal rights and they should be accepted.

But if you tell me that your gender depends on your mood or what side of the bed you wake up on, it becomes dangerous.

I am also okay with trans sexuals as long as they do not insist on using gender based rest rooms and demand paying gender based sports. It is not fair on men or women when you have to compete with trans sexuals who will have a clear advantage.

 

[miandadrules]

Far left is as dangerous as far right. I am all in favor of gays and bi-sexual equal rights and they should be accepted.

But if you tell me that your gender depends on your mood or what side of the bed you wake up on, it becomes dangerous.

I am also okay with trans sexuals as long as they do not insist on using gender based rest rooms and demand paying gender based sports. It is not fair on men or women when you have to compete with trans sexuals who will have a clear advantage.

Do you have any cases where high levels female athletes have been dominated by trans athletes?

 

[troodon]

Do you have any cases where high levels female athletes have been dominated by trans athletes?

I remember reading female wrestlers were dominated by trans female. That trans woman was bigger with big muscles and was also quicker.
I am on my mobile now and I will try to find the link for it tomorrow. It’s late night here for me.

IMO once a person passes puberty, body under goes so many changes. If some one decides to change gender after puberty, they can never be a real woman. I worked with a 50 year old man who became woman. The guy still had a deep voice with wide shoulders and no way that person will be considered a real woman.

 

[sweep_shot]

This is a man who thinks he is an alien with no gender.

How can anyone behave like this is beyond me. To make things worse, some women actually like this guy.

 

[Itachi]

What do you object to what I said. More than happy to clear up your confusion.

I think I’ll express my opinions unabashed.

Feel free to counter points with valid evidence. So, you can exhibit that you’ve reached your understanding through research and study, rather than parroting prejudicial views that you’ve been indoctrinated with.

What analysis have you done to reach your conclusions. Now that would be a good point to start a discussion.

Let’s see how you fair.

Incase of my pov, I feel gender neutrality and others don't bring much to the table as they follow the same dogma which they are trying to break from.

I won't have issue if an adult follows this understanding different dimension of social construction and hence who is able to differentiate between sex and gender.

But kids aren't. These parents are imposing their views on the kids same as parents impose religion. What I will propose is, let them identify by their sex which is determined by sexual organs. And then, when they understand the differentiation, give them a platform to express their gender.

But most parents are following right after birth. That's where my disagreement comes.

 

[JaDed]

In what world does that type of response show he's triggered?
It was a calm and well composed response.

Unlike yours, where you're resorting to a "haha you're triggered" "haha you're offended" type response.

Fr someone who comes with responses about a.. being burnt those are big words.

He couldn’t give one proper response to the questions posed but again don’t expect you to see it so go play along with your trolling and have fun.

 

[sweep_shot]

Fr someone who comes with responses about a.. being burnt those are big words.

He couldn’t give one proper response to the questions posed but again don’t expect you to see it so go play along with your trolling and have fun.

Which question did I not answer?

There was no real question here. Also, I don't answer radical liberals. It is a waste of time.

 

[miandadrules]

I remember reading female wrestlers were dominated by trans female. That trans woman was bigger with big muscles and was also quicker.
I am on my mobile now and I will try to find the link for it tomorrow. It’s late night here for me.

IMO once a person passes puberty, body under goes so many changes. If some one decides to change gender after puberty, they can never be a real woman. I worked with a 50 year old man who became woman. The guy still had a deep voice with wide shoulders and no way that person will be considered a real woman.

I’d appreciate it if you can get those cases. The reason I ask is because when I read in to it, at the pro levels there weren’t any cases.

The ones being publicised were in over-age (I.e. over 50s etc...).

Also, athlete’s would have to go hormone therapy and would require their levels be in line with other female athletes. Though, their skeletal structure doesn’t change and gives them an unfair advantage.

I haven’t reach a conclusion on their participation against other genders, simply because I need to do more research, especially in combat sports where ones health is at risk. We need to have open and honest discussion based on facts rather than our personal likes and dislikes.

 

[Itachi]

I don't claim to know everything and it is quite possible that you know more than me. But, if you really knew the faith well, you probably wouldn't have been an atheist.

The way you are defending gender neutrals and gender fluids, it seems like you are one of them.

"if you don't agree with me, you are one of them."

This is how so many clashes are happening around world. You know who used these terms in world War 2?

 

[sweep_shot]

"if you don't agree with me, you are one of them."

This is how so many clashes are happening around world. You know who used these terms in world War 2?

Hitler?

You surely can't compare me to Hitler just because I dislike freaks.

 

[miandadrules]

Hitler?

You surely can't compare me to Hitler just because I dislike freaks.

They’re human beings.

 

[miandadrules]

Incase of my pov, I feel gender neutrality and others don't bring much to the table as they follow the same dogma which they are trying to break from.

I won't have issue if an adult follows this understanding different dimension of social construction and hence who is able to differentiate between sex and gender.

But kids aren't. These parents are imposing their views on the kids same as parents impose religion. What I will propose is, let them identify by their sex which is determined by sexual organs. And then, when they understand the differentiation, give them a platform to express their gender.

But most parents are following right after birth. That's where my disagreement comes.

I wasn’t defending the participants of the video. I’ve not watched the video. As soon as I opened the thread all I saw vile prejudice.

I’m against any sort of indoctrination. Let’s call it what it is. It is severe psychological abuse, over decades in the case of religion. Under any other guise there would be mass outrage. But in the case of religion the abused become the abuser. It’s a self maintaining system. A virus of the mind.

 

[miandadrules]

Hitler?

You surely can't compare me to Hitler just because I dislike freaks.

How one can just label millions of human beings as freaks and no one pulls you up in it shows the sad state of our society.

Let’s be clear when you say freak you mean they are less than. There can be no other reason for you to use such a word.

 

[sweep_shot]

How one can just label millions of human beings as freaks and no one pulls you up in it shows the sad state of our society.

Let’s be clear when you say freak you mean they are less than. There can be no other reason for you to use such a word.

There is nothing wrong in using that word to describe them. Here's the definition of freak: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/freak.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

There is nothing wrong in using that word to describe them. Here's the definition of freak: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/freak.

Just to be clear. If you went to a public place and saw a special child would you consider them a freak?

 

[sweep_shot]

Just to be clear. If you went to a public place and saw a special child would you consider them a freak?

Absolutely not.

I was taking a dig at gender-neutrals and anyone who believes there are 100 genders.

 

[Itachi]

Hitler?

You surely can't compare me to Hitler just because I dislike freaks.

Nope. The soviets. The bolsheviks.

 

[Bigboii]

Nope. The soviets. The bolsheviks.

What if your daughter or son is gender fluid?
How would you react would you support that decision

 

[sweep_shot]

Nope. The soviets. The bolsheviks.

What's your point?

Soviets were the good guys during WW2. Hitler actually started to lose due to them (Operation Barbarossa).

I am glad that Vladimir Putin and Russians don't tolerate this nonsense.

Well done, Mr. Putin.

 

[miandadrules]

What if your daughter or son is gender fluid?
How would you react would you support that decision

Yes.

 

[Itachi]

What's your point?

Soviets were the good guys during WW2. Hitler actually started to lose due to them (Operation Barbarossa).

Stalin was angel. I've heard enough. Thats why people atleast read into details about any subject before coming up with conclusions.

For above subject, read Nikita khruschev. The next premiere after Stalin. And how he had to reform the system.

You need to do more research before judging.

 

[Itachi]

What if your daughter or son is gender fluid?
How would you react would you support that decision

If they are adults, I will let them.

If they are kids, I will encourage them to read more materials before making up the mind.

 

[miandadrules]

If they are adults, I will let them.

If they are kids, I will encourage them to read more materials before making up the mind.

He thinks that isn’t supporting but indoctrinating.

I think you need to appreciate this point. Otherwise you’ll be talking on two completely different levels.

 

[sweep_shot]

Stalin was angel. I've heard enough. Thats why people atleast read into details about any subject before coming up with conclusions.

For above subject, read Nikita khruschev. The next premiere after Stalin. And how he had to reform the system.

You need to do more research before judging.

I think you misunderstood my post. I wasn't condoning Stalin or communists. I am against them also.

I simply applauded how Russians never tolerate any LGBT agenda. They remain firm in their stance.

 

[liam26]

Mentally sick confused people that need to be rejected. West has made enormous scientific progress but has also given rise to degeneracy which they are now trying to spread all around the World under the guise of human rights. We should embrace the best values of their system and reject the worst imo.

 

[Technics 1210]

You got to hand it to the haters of Islam. Can't defend the OP so they resort to criticising religion; it's because deep down they too realise just how pathetic and nonsensical gender neutrality really is.

 

[miandadrules]

Mentally sick confused people that need to be rejected. West has made enormous scientific progress but has also given rise to degeneracy which they are now trying to spread all around the World under the guise of human rights. We should embrace the best values of their system and reject the worst imo.

Yes!

Lets continue to target the most vulnerable members of society!

Nobody has the right to tell us we can’t!

 

[shah_1]

[MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] needs to share some information of why it is alright for people to think like this?

I simply can’t understand this thinking of gender neutrality. Please enlighten me on this so I can have a different perspective.

 

[miandadrules]

[MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] needs to share some information of why it is alright for people to think like this?

I simply can’t understand this thinking of gender neutrality. Please enlighten me on this so I can have a different perspective.

Sure.

What do you understand of it?

What is your understanding of gender and of sex? What are your definitions.

We’ll go through this step by step and it will take as long as is takes.

 

[shah_1]

Sure.

What do you understand of it?

What is your understanding of gender and of sex? What are your definitions.

We’ll go through this step by step and it will take as long as is takes.

Genitalia and genetic differences tells you about gender? You are either male or female. I understand we shouldn’t stereotype roles of the gender and how society perceives them based on pre conceived notion how male or female suppose to be in a society. Both should be equal in terms of opportunities given to them but they are genetically different.

How can an individual man think that he feel like a woman?

 

[Kashmirilion]

Anti Islam bigots on here in full force. Trying to compare this gender issue to Islam. Obviously islam makes these people so insecure.

 

[miandadrules]

Genitalia and genetic differences tells you about gender? You are either male or female. I understand we shouldn’t stereotype roles of the gender and how society perceives them based on pre conceived notion how male or female suppose to be in a society. Both should be equal in terms of opportunities given to them but they are genetically different.

How can an individual man think that he feel like a woman?

Male and female are sex.

Man and woman are gender.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You got to hand it to the haters of Islam. Can't defend the OP so they resort to criticising religion; it's because deep down they too realise just how pathetic and nonsensical gender neutrality really is.

I don't know, maybe they are looking for direction. Itachi was reluctant to talk about Indian viewpoint because he says there isn't any fixed viewpoint. Now he's asking what Quran says about it so maybe he is looking for guidance and light on this troublesome issue.

 

[Local.Dada]

You got to hand it to the haters of Islam. Can't defend the OP so they resort to criticising religion; it's because deep down they too realise just how pathetic and nonsensical gender neutrality really is.

So do you believe a man should never do household chores or a women shouldn't say run a business or play sports?

 

[1ManArmy]

So do you believe a man should never do household chores or a women shouldn't say run a business or play sports?

If feminists, like yourself, really want neutrality, why don’t women play sports WITH men?

Let me see...

Is it because the Australian women’s team lost 7-0 to a bunch of 15 year olds?

https://m.huffingtonpost.com.au/201...newcastle-jets-under-15-boys-team_a_21383895/

During conflicts, you can’t just choose women as soldiers just for the sake of it. Only choose the woman if she’s done better than her male counterpart (very unlikely). Women are better off helping as medics or helpers as that is still equally as important as the fighting itself.
Why would you want to choose a weaker soldier over a stronger one just because you want to show that all “genders are equal”

Women should do activities which call for minimal physical strength. So they should work, have a business etc.
They can even play sports with their own gender but when they start asking for equal pay for the sports they play then that becomes a problem.

 

[Technics 1210]

So do you believe a man should never do household chores or a women shouldn't say run a business or play sports?

What are you going to say next? A man should breastfeed?

Do you even understand what Gender neutrality means?

 

[1ManArmy]

if feminists, like yourself, really want neutrality, why don’t women play sports with men?

Let me see...

Is it because the australian women’s team lost 7-0 to a bunch of 15 year olds?

https://m.huffingtonpost.com.au/201...newcastle-jets-under-15-boys-team_a_21383895/

during conflicts, you can’t just choose women as soldiers just for the sake of it. Only choose the woman if she’s done better than her male counterpart (very unlikely). Women are better off helping as medics or helpers as that is still equally as important as the fighting itself.
Why would you want to choose a weaker soldier over a stronger one just because you want to show that all “genders are equal”

women should do activities which call for minimal physical strength. So they should work, have a business etc.
They can even play sports with their own gender but when they start asking for equal pay for the sports they play then that becomes a problem.

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[Technics 1210]

I don't know, maybe they are looking for direction. Itachi was reluctant to talk about Indian viewpoint because he says there isn't any fixed viewpoint. Now he's asking what Quran says about it so maybe he is looking for guidance and light on this troublesome issue.

He [or 'it' given the theme of gender neutrality] is a fraud. Moans about changing the topic of the thread but does exactly the same when his [it's] motive, ignorance, and hypocrisy are exposed. He [it] tries too hard to be smart.

Like gender neutrality, his kind seek attention.

 

[Local.Dada]

What are you going to say next? A man should breastfeed?

Do you even understand what Gender neutrality means?

I must admit I originally did not. However from what I understood as per the definition of the word "gender" which is different from Sex of a person is that gender reflects social understanding of the responsibilities for male and female.

Breastfeeding again you are referring to private parts which determines the sex of the human.

So yeah if Gender neutrality refers to man and woman having equal place in society and not bogged down by what the general social norms dictate that would just be common sense and doesn't require fancy words like gender neutrality.

Of course a man is not capable of breast feeding however he is more than capable of looking after his kids if the wife is away due to work or if she is sick or if any such scenarios arise. It is no excuse if the man says that it is not his job to look after the day to day needs of his children so what is wrong in that?

I am curious to know now what you understand by Gender neutrality?

 

[Local.Dada]

If feminists, like yourself, really want neutrality, why donÂ’t women play sports WITH men?

Let me see...

Is it because the Australian womenÂ’s team lost 7-0 to a bunch of 15 year olds?

https://m.huffingtonpost.com.au/201...newcastle-jets-under-15-boys-team_a_21383895/

During conflicts, you canÂ’t just choose women as soldiers just for the sake of it. Only choose the woman if sheÂ’s done better than her male counterpart (very unlikely). Women are better off helping as medics or helpers as that is still equally as important as the fighting itself.
Why would you want to choose a weaker soldier over a stronger one just because you want to show that all “genders are equal”

Women should do activities which call for minimal physical strength. So they should work, have a business etc.
They can even play sports with their own gender but when they start asking for equal pay for the sports they play then that becomes a problem.

Try standing all day in a kitchen or try to do the household chores or run after kids the whole day that a woman does in a village or a society that is dictated by rules of social standing and comeback to me if you think that requires no physical strain compared to working in front of a computer all day.

 

[Technics 1210]

Breastfeeding again you are referring to private parts which determines the sex of the human.

Don't run away. Man up.

You were harping on about men doing women's jobs and vice versa, so I put to you should men start breastfeeding? What's that? Oh men do not have the appropriate sexual organs?

Good, know you understand why Gender equality is a joke. Run along and troll else where.

 

[Local.Dada]

Don't run away. Man up.

You were harping on about men doing women's jobs and vice versa, so I put to you should men start breastfeeding? What's that? Oh men do not have the appropriate sexual organs?

Good, know you understand why Gender equality is a joke. Run along and troll else where.

Here let me make things easy for you

Google the definition of 'Sex" and 'Gender". They are 2 different things. I would say be cautious when you search for the first word because this thing called the internet may throw up results that may offend your 800 AD middle Arabia sensibilities. I am talking about that little box called "sex' that you fill in most forms.

A person's sex be it male/female/trans is determined on how they are born biologically

Gender means what is the norm set by society.

This is my last attempt at explanation. I know you were probably proud of coming up with the breast feeding argument, that has nothing to do with gender, it has everything to do with the sex of the person.

 

[miandadrules]

Don't run away. Man up.

You were harping on about men doing women's jobs and vice versa, so I put to you should men start breastfeeding? What's that? Oh men do not have the appropriate sexual organs?

Good, know you understand why Gender equality is a joke. Run along and troll else where.

Breast feeding is related to sex. Only a female can breastfeed.

Feeding a child milk has traditionally been the role of the woman. Be it breast or bottle.

Not all women can or do breastfeed

 

[Technics 1210]

Here let me make things easy for you

Google the definition of 'Sex" and 'Gender". They are 2 different things. I would say be cautious when you search for the first word because this thing called the internet may throw up results that may offend your 800 AD middle Arabia sensibilities. I am talking about that little box called "sex' that you fill in most forms.

A person's sex be it male/female/trans is determined on how they are born biologically

Gender means what is the norm set by society.

This is my last attempt at explanation. I know you were probably proud of coming up with the breast feeding argument, that has nothing to do with gender, it has everything to do with the sex of the person.

Flummoxed.

 

[sweep_shot]

Hungary has banned gender studies completely in their country. Well done.

This major (gender studies) messes up minds of people and turns them into abnormal people.

 

[miandadrules]

Hungary has banned gender studies completely in their country. Well done.

This major (gender studies) messes up minds of people and turns them into abnormal people.

What was your cause?

 

[sweep_shot]

What was your cause?

I am neither a radical liberal nor a gender studies major.

 

[troodon]

I remember reading female wrestlers were dominated by trans female. That trans woman was bigger with big muscles and was also quicker.
I am on my mobile now and I will try to find the link for it tomorrow. It’s late night here for me.

IMO once a person passes puberty, body under goes so many changes. If some one decides to change gender after puberty, they can never be a real woman. I worked with a 50 year old man who became woman. The guy still had a deep voice with wide shoulders and no way that person will be considered a real woman.

Here is the link.

https://nypost.com/2013/05/25/watch...ns-mma-fight-for-first-time-since-coming-out/

The Trans MMA fighter was physically bigger and more muscular than the real woman. Even if the advantage is only minimal, it still is not fair on real female athletes.

I have nothing against Trans people, but when they want to be treated like real man or women in all aspects of life, it becomes very complicated. Too many eyebrows will be raised and too many controversies will come up.

 

[miandadrules]

Here is the link.

https://nypost.com/2013/05/25/watch...ns-mma-fight-for-first-time-since-coming-out/

The Trans MMA fighter was physically bigger and more muscular than the real woman. Even if the advantage is only minimal, it still is not fair on real female athletes.

I have nothing against Trans people, but when they want to be treated like real man or women in all aspects of life, it becomes very complicated. Too many eyebrows will be raised and too many controversies will come up.

Before I comment, would you say this is one of the strongest arguments you can put forward for non-participation?

 

[1ManArmy]

Try standing all day in a kitchen or try to do the household chores or run after kids the whole day that a woman does in a village or a society that is dictated by rules of social standing and comeback to me if you think that requires no physical strain compared to working in front of a computer all day.

A cliché comment.

Working in an office from 9am to 5pm is a lot more physically demanding than working at home where you can do your chores for an hour and then watch a bollywood movie for 3. Imagine thinking sitting in front of a computer for 8 hours straight is easy.

Feminists always try to compare working at home with working in an office. There is no comparison.
Office work is a lot more physically demanding.

Also, you nitpicked one of my comments but haven’t responded to my comments about women’s sports and women soldiers. Look at that too.

 

[miandadrules]

Here is the link.

https://nypost.com/2013/05/25/watch...ns-mma-fight-for-first-time-since-coming-out/

The Trans MMA fighter was physically bigger and more muscular than the real woman. Even if the advantage is only minimal, it still is not fair on real female athletes.

I have nothing against Trans people, but when they want to be treated like real man or women in all aspects of life, it becomes very complicated. Too many eyebrows will be raised and too many controversies will come up.

What do you mean by REAL man and woman?

 

[Itachi]

He [or 'it' given the theme of gender neutrality] is a fraud. Moans about changing the topic of the thread but does exactly the same when his [it's] motive, ignorance, and hypocrisy are exposed. He [it] tries too hard to be smart.

Like gender neutrality, his kind seek attention.

I don't understand what you are talking about. I am against gender neutrality as I've said earlier.

You are complaining about me supporting something while you also support the same.

 

[troodon]

What do you mean by REAL man and woman?

Born with XX or XY chromosomes and crossed puberty age.

 

[miandadrules]

Born with XX or XY chromosomes and crossed puberty age.

That’s Male and Female.

 

[troodon]

Before I comment, would you say this is one of the strongest arguments you can put forward for non-participation?

This is what I could come up with at the moment. I have also mentioned Trans Females who are physically bigger than your average female. It will be unfair on natural born women who underwent puberty to compete with a bigger Trans Females.

I can be wrong with my assessment of the situation. Do you have any scientific proof that there is no advantage for Trans Athletes?

 

[troodon]

That’s Male and Female.

Precisely. But if they decide to become a Women at a later age, the advantage will definitely be there.

 

[miandadrules]

This is what I could come up with at the moment. I have also mentioned Trans Females who are physically bigger than your average female. It will be unfair on natural born women who underwent puberty to compete with a bigger Trans Females.

I can be wrong with my assessment of the situation. Do you have any scientific proof that there is no advantage for Trans Athletes?

Well, this argument is put forward frequently against Trans individuals.

So if it is at the forefront of issues concerning the acceptance of trans people, you would think it is quite prevalent in sport. If the best example of the raid of women’s sport is an 35 year old MMA fighter with a record of 3-1, who got stopped in the very next fight after the one you posted. That too in the 6th or so level of professional MMA. Because unfortunately even if you lose your penis, you still need talent.

The participation of trans athletes is talked up as this huge issue and major threat, yet there are no significant cases.


Issues the use of public toilets should be discussed.

This idea of the bionic trans athlete coming to destroy women’s sport is the scare tactic used by those with a right wing agenda.

 

[miandadrules]

Precisely. But if they decide to become a Women at a later age, the advantage will definitely be there.

Skeletally but also they will undergo hormone therapy which will reduce some advantages.

It’s not as if a full blown Male is competing. I feel this is a scare tactic.

But like I said we need an honest and open
Discussion based on the facts.

For me switching the classification of combat sports to Male and female rather than men’s and women’s would be logical where there is a threat to ones health.

 

[Itachi]

This is what I could come up with at the moment. I have also mentioned Trans Females who are physically bigger than your average female. It will be unfair on natural born women who underwent puberty to compete with a bigger Trans Females.

I can be wrong with my assessment of the situation. Do you have any scientific proof that there is no advantage for Trans Athletes?

There is advantage of trans athletes. What I believe is, the differentiation should stop taking sex as the standard rather opt for weight or built structure.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He [or 'it' given the theme of gender neutrality] is a fraud. Moans about changing the topic of the thread but does exactly the same when his [it's] motive, ignorance, and hypocrisy are exposed. He [it] tries too hard to be smart.

Like gender neutrality, his kind seek attention.

I don't know, he seemed very determined to bring it back to Islamic viewpoint while reluctant to discuss Indian take on it, so I assumed he might be thinking about becoming a Muslim.

 

[troodon]

Well, this argument is put forward frequently against Trans individuals.

So if it is at the forefront of issues concerning the acceptance of trans people, you would think it is quite prevalent in sport. If the best example of the raid of women’s sport is an 35 year old MMA fighter with a record of 3-1, who got stopped in the very next fight after the one you posted. That too in the 6th or so level of professional MMA. Because unfortunately even if you lose your penis, you still need talent.

The participation of trans athletes is talked up as this huge issue and major threat, yet there are no significant cases.


Issues the use of public toilets should be discussed.

This idea of the bionic trans athlete coming to destroy women’s sport is the scare tactic used by those with a right wing agenda.

I am not 100% convinced too. But from the Trans People that I have met in real life, I feel that they are definitely stronger than your average female.

I guess a lot of it also depends on how much they have transformed or how long they have been in the process. It goes to percentages then.

 

[Technics 1210]

I don't know, he seemed very determined to bring it back to Islamic viewpoint while reluctant to discuss Indian take on it, so I assumed he might be thinking about becoming a Muslim.

The Indian take on this topic would be worse than the Indian take on women. It's clear how Hinduism *reveres* women. Sati is a good example. Personally I don't think Indians have a leg to stand on as far as this topic goes. Forget gender equality, there's no social equality in India; caste system and all!

Expecting Indians to understand Gender equality is like asking McDonalds to look after your cow.

 

[miandadrules]

I am not 100% convinced too. But from the Trans People that I have met in real life, I feel that they are definitely stronger than your average female.

I guess a lot of it also depends on how much they have transformed or how long they have been in the process. It goes to percentages then.

The people you see in everyday life are not going to subjected to the type of testing professional athletes are.

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=149383]Ronaldo7[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Look at this.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. This is like straight from South Park.

End times brother

Seriously this is messing up childrens minds. People who are comparing this with religion are making a foolish comparison. Kids can grow up and change their view on faith, they can convert or leave. Kids who have been subjected this will find it difficult to move on if they grow up to realise it's nonsense.

Morgan made the crucial point, these parents think they are being good to the children but it's more about themselves. They are forcing kids to accept this, no 7 year old will have a clue and wont care.

Besides it's not practical, good luck to them filling out an application form.

 

[Itachi]

People who are comparing this with religion are making a foolish comparison. Kids can grow up and change their view on faith, they can convert or leave. Kids who have been subjected this will find it difficult to move on if they grow up to realise it's nonsense.

So.... are you implying religion is easier to leave than gender neutrality?

 

[KingKhanWC]

So.... are you implying religion is easier to leave than gender neutrality?

Of course, there are posters on this thread who have not only left their religion but have started a crusade against it without any issues. Millions yearly, worldwide change faith, convert or leave.

Any examples of kids who have been bought up like this but once reacing adulthood have come out to call it nonsense or change their views or even change their labels which were set for them?

 

[Robert]

So the hypocrites that are always bashing Islam left right centre are here to defend this. It's amazing how these social justice warriors defend this but bash religion (especially islam) any opportunity they get. Hypocrites of the highest order. It's a trend I see alot on pp threads. Same people bash religion and as they say magical creature in sky but when comes to defending this LGBTQ rights. Oh it's their life they can choose to do whatever they want they are not harming anyone.

That aimed at me?

I don’t bash religion as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone. People can believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster or any gods they choose, as long as they don’t oppress anyone or blow them up.

I don’t bash LGBT folk, as long as they don’t harm anyone.

So no hypocrisy

 

[Bigboii]

I am not going to be stupid and say this is right because I have a video which explains why this gay, lesbian,gender fluid thing is just wrong and weird
https://youtu.be/T4EMNdofqgY
Anyone is free to make their choice tho and but I hate governments trying to impose laws to control this situation who is gov to do anything as long as it's not hurting anyone