Government decides to ban the broadcast of IPL matches in Pakistan

[Kroll]

Seems a bit petty to me, last thing I want to see is the authorities acting like kids from junior school who didn't get their way. Besides, it should be left to the public if they wish to watch or not. Hope the Pak govt. don't start acting at the immature level of the Reich across the border.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Considering how much you are posting here shows how badly this has effected you. Awwwww don't cry poor baby

First it was IPL and now your PSL. I have seen some fans here in India who watch both these Pyajama Leagues with the same passion. There is a reason DSports who was trying to act patriotic after Pulwama attack couldn't resist and start showing your PSL again just so our enthusiastic Pyjama League fans like Canford and Joshilay can watch it.

With 100s of IPL matches just before the world cup our chances for the world cup are not looking good. Someone important will be injured just before the world cup because of this cr@PL.

 

[Syed1]

First it was IPL and now your PSL. I have seen some fans here in India who watch both these Pyajama Leagues with the same passion. There is a reason DSports who was trying to act patriotic after Pulwama attack couldn't resist and start showing your PSL again just so our enthusiastic Pyjama League fans like Canford and Joshilay can watch it.

With 100s of IPL matches just before the world cup our chances for the world cup are not looking good. Someone important will be injured just before the world cup because of this cr@PL.

It would be unfortunate if one of India's main players gets injured during IPL. Should have postponed this year's IPL because of elections and WC.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

It would be unfortunate if one of India's main players gets injured during IPL. Should have postponed this year's IPL because of elections and WC.

What is the gurantee that Pak players wont get injured playing internationals before WC?

 

[Savak]

These talks about about this having no effect on India is just cheap. It doesn't matter, you do things based on principal and self respect. Given the garbage that has come out from India in this episode, not a single cent must go to the country of India from the country of Pakistan.

 

[Syed1]

What is the gurantee that Pak players wont get injured playing internationals before WC?

First you need to stop with the chest thumping...


There are 8 or 9 teams in IPL, that means every team (and hence main players) play atleast 16-17 games.

 

[Smbhayi]

Not really. Noone watched IPL before. Why on earth would they now.

[MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION] said multiple times he watches IPL.. thinks he isn't Pakistani then..

 

[Syed1]

[MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION] said multiple times he watches IPL.. thinks he isn't Pakistani then..

He lives in UK and was born and raised there. Also even if he was a Pakistani living in Pakistan it does not prove that Pakistanis watch IPL. Had that been the case the viewing rights wouldn't have gone unsold.

 

[Savak]

Even if you enjoy the IPL or bollywood movies, watch it for free. Make sure you don't pay for it

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

[MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION] said multiple times he watches IPL.. thinks he isn't Pakistani then..

He has a big heart.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

What is the gurantee that Pak players wont get injured playing internationals before WC?

Comparing a player getting injured while playing international cricket to a player getting injured while playing Pyjama League is quite funny. It's like comparing an army guy fighting for his country to a local hawaldaar fighting with a tapori.

 

[Darkrai]

Generally i agree politics and sports should not mix, however India has taken things too far. They banned our players and artists, and they say their goal is the destruction of Pakistan and Pakistan cricket. They even requested ICC to throw Pakistan out of the world cup. They tell the world to not have relations with Pakistan; they want the world to have a negative perspective on Pakistan.

Even so, Pakistan talked about improving relations with India. The more Pakistan talks about peace the more aggression is shown by India.

I don't understand, knowing everything, how people have complains about this move.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

First you need to stop with the chest thumping...


There are 8 or 9 teams in IPL, that means every team (and hence main players) play atleast 16-17 games.

First of all stop getting hyper in every post and try to reply politely, else dont quote me. A player can get injured anytime/anywhere....even during net practice. So this logic that players can get injured only if they play IPL before world cup is a bogus logic. Getting injury is in no ones hand and IPL should not stop fearing injuries just bcoz there is world cup to follow. We all saw Prithvi Shaw got injured in a practice game before Aust test series.

 

[ar2020]

Lol banning IPL in Pak wont have any impact on the daddy league at all. Players like ABDV and Russell pulled out of PSL to stay fit for IPL shows where this league stands and how important it is for top players. So IPL will remain the biggest cricket carnival and an epitome of highest level of cricket. Its just that Pak fans will miss it this year unfortunately. But then again, their players are missing it for XI years...so fans can sacrifice it for a year.

You hit the nail on the head: it's a carnival. If I wanted to watch fake cricket I would watch Hong Kong sixes.

Happy it's banned.

 

[Zhasan]

These talks about about this having no effect on India is just cheap. It doesn't matter, you do things based on principal and self respect. Given the garbage that has come out from India in this episode, not a single cent must go to the country of India from the country of Pakistan.

I am surprised that wasn't a given from the get go. While Indians have been boycotting Pakistan and Pakistani products from time immemorial, Pakistanis on the other hand have been too acquiescent and brainwashed by Indian cultural onslaught that they still can't do without watching Indian entertainment. Hopefully this latest episode has finally opened the collective eyes of Pakistani populace to the nefarious anti-Pakistan conduct of Indians on all levels.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I don't watch IPL but then I don't watch even PSL.

I feel these pyjama leagues are good for the players to earn money, but they are not what cricket is about.

Why not have a 5 over and 10 over league then, with batsmen trying to bash every ball out of the park. Remind you of a game which has 9 innings and every ball has to be hit out of the park or tried to?

The only 20 over I tolerate is the World Cup and I honestly would like it to be the only major T20 tournament all over the world after a gap of 2-4 years.

Back on topic, people in Pakistan watch IPL and there are some who don't, but Pakistani viewership is not the be and all for a league's success.

 

[Syed1]

I don't watch IPL but then I don't watch even PSL.

I feel these pyjama leagues are good for the players to earn money, but they are not what cricket is about.

Why not have a 5 over and 10 over league then, with batsmen trying to bash every ball out of the park. Remind you of a game which has 9 innings and every ball has to be hit out of the park or tried to?

The only 20 over I tolerate is the World Cup and I honestly would like it to be the only major T20 tournament all over the world after a gap of 2-4 years.

Back on topic, people in Pakistan watch IPL and there are some who don't, but Pakistani viewership is not the be and all for a league's success.

So you claim to not watch IPL or PSL, but know that people in Pak watch the IPL. Your story isn't lining up doc.

 

[Rana]

Very happy with this. No point of watching entertainment meaning cricket and Bollywood from a country whose entertainment providers want to disrespect the 220 Million good people of the country over a few dozens that have spoiled its image.

 

[Asif321]

Seems India won’t be telecasting Pak vs Aus

 

[Rana]

Seems India won’t be telecasting Pak vs Aus

I dont think its that simple..

 

[Greenstorm]

I am surprised that wasn't a given from the get go. While Indians have been boycotting Pakistan and Pakistani products from time immemorial, Pakistanis on the other hand have been too acquiescent and brainwashed by Indian cultural onslaught that they still can't do without watching Indian entertainment. Hopefully this latest episode has finally opened the collective eyes of Pakistani populace to the nefarious anti-Pakistan conduct of Indians on all levels.

Incidents of last few weeks have been very helpful in this regard. Pakistanis are finally becoming aware of the true intentions of India.

 

[Asif321]

I dont think its that simple..

No promos no scheduling shown on any Sony channel

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

No promos no scheduling shown on any Sony channel

Sony Six will broadcast it in India.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

So you claim to not watch IPL or PSL, but know that people in Pak watch the IPL. Your story isn't lining up doc.

You misunderstood me.

People in Pakistan probably watch PSL to a fanatical extent, with sparse viewership for IPL.

This makes sense, as there is nothing for Pakistanis to watch IPL for except the cricket.

My point was, since the people watching IPL in Pakistan are probably way to scarce, it hardly makes a difference if the government doesn't broadcast the league by prohibition notice.

IPL will continue to thrive as the main league for India and PSL for Pakistan.

If you however, are suggesting, that NO ONE in Pakistan watches IPL, that seems quite unlikely.

 

[Rana]

Its high time that India learns that it cannot boycott ties with a country for 10 years only to play them if they must in an ICC event, then try to isolate it and even go to the extent of trying to have it banned and thrown out of ICC. Very good decision by Pak government and as pointed out by other posters, ban bollywood cinema also. Lets see how these Screen super heroes like it when their movies are being distributed regularly in the video piracy market in the 220 million audience.

 

[Pakpak]

[MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION] said multiple times he watches IPL.. thinks he isn't Pakistani then..

There is not a single Pakistani I know in Pakistan who watches it. This thread should tell you as much. Even the people who I knew used to be into Bollywood now never watch it.

 

[unemployedgm]

The IPL's greatest weakness is that it isn't a competition that offers the most competition. With Pakistanis Officially Banned in the IPL, the best players are simply not playing against each other so it waters down the competition.

I disagree with banning the competition because it gives heed to the childish actions from across the border. Let it be!!!

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There is not a single Pakistani I know in Pakistan who watches it. This thread should tell you as much. Even the people who I knew used to be into Bollywood now never watch it.

I live in England and have a Sky package which means I get to watch the IPL for free...but I've still never watched a single match.

That's not to say it is a bad competition, it might be fantastic, but since there are no Pakistani players in it, I have no stake in it.

Personally I believe there should be Pakistani players in the IPL, and Indian players in the PSL, it would improve both competitions. That said, if India is insistent on banning Pakistan from everything, can't really expect Pakistan not to respond likewise.

 

[Bilal7]

The reactionary politics suck. It gives away all the moral ground. So much for not mixing politics with sports.

Do you guys realize that they discriminate against Pakistani cricketers every season? This should be a permanent ban until they give up their discriminatory practices and other countries should follow suit. The PCB should start sending letters of their own.

 

[Bilal7]

First of all stop getting hyper in every post and try to reply politely, else dont quote me. A player can get injured anytime/anywhere....even during net practice. So this logic that players can get injured only if they play IPL before world cup is a bogus logic. Getting injury is in no ones hand and IPL should not stop fearing injuries just bcoz there is world cup to follow. We all saw Prithvi Shaw got injured in a practice game before Aust test series.

Well, anyone with a brain knows that playing domestic T20 matches before a 50-overs World Cup is a high-risk, no-reward strategy. That is why the ECB and CA want all their players back by the start of April and why Kohli has told the Indian players to ensure that they do not get burned out by playing every game.

Playing 50-overs matches before the WC is very helpful with getting everyone in form.

 

[Zhasan]

Do you guys realize that they discriminate against Pakistani cricketers every season? This should be a permanent ban until they give up their discriminatory practices and other countries should follow suit. The PCB should start sending letters of their own.

Yes, India banning Pakistani players in IPL is the modern day equivalent of South African of yore refusing to play against black teams/players. And the world cricket community especially ICC has been complicit in this modern day apartheid against Pakistani players.

Pakistan's retaliation has been a long time coming.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Well, anyone with a brain knows that playing domestic T20 matches before a 50-overs World Cup is a high-risk, no-reward strategy. That is why the ECB and CA want all their players back by the start of April and why Kohli has told the Indian players to ensure that they do not get burned out by playing every game.

Playing 50-overs matches before the WC is very helpful with getting everyone in form.

India won the CT 2013 by playing 5 days after IPL. So IPL serves no reward and only playing 50 over international cricket before world cup is beneficial is all myth. Pak is playing an ODI series in Eng just before the world cup in Eng. We will see how far they go.

 

[Majid Khan]

The bottom line - if Pakistani players are openly discriminated against from participating in IPL, then why should it be allowed to be broadcast in Pakistan? Forget bans by authorities, it should be boycotted at an individual level.

Not sure what others think, but how can Pakistanis accept any entertainment from IPL or Bollywood where they openly ban and humiliate by kicking out your players and artists from participating, that’s even if you disregard the venom and hatred directed against Pakistan by not just politicians but even their most popular celebrities as we have seen recently...

 

[Pak Warrior]

I dont watch IPL so I could care less if banned or not, I dont support the IPL because they have banned our players. This is something I have done for long time and it's my personal choice.

I know there are few cricket crazy fans that watch everything and this ban wont stop them from watching online, my cousin watches this because of betting and money making scheme. No love or interest for the IPL or anything, just business. I always try to follow the Golden Rule, do unto others as you would want them to do to you....until they give you reason not to. With the recent revelation of India Anti-Pak sentiments and war hysteria, I dont think any Pakistani should support their movies and songs, IPL. Keep in mind that we have tried to extend the olive branch to them, they have spit in our face and beat the war drums in return. Have some pride in your own people, country, cricket, and movies/songs. Get away from their influence.

 

[leg-side-flick]

Sony Six will broadcast it in India.

Big hearts

 

[Mamoon]

The fact that PCB is responsible for Pakistani players getting snubbed by the IPL seems to be lost on quite a few.

You have to feel sorry for our players who have missed out on millions thanks to the stunt that the PCB pulled off in 2009, a stunt that backfired spectacularly.

For those who are unaware of the series of events, I will provide a summary.

As a retaliation to India accusing Pakistan of orchestrating Mumbai attacks, PCB decided to retaliate by blocking Pakistani players from participating in IPL 2.

Pakistani players were integral members of the franchises in IPL 1, and it was quite a blow for their management who had to hurrily find their replacements.

The PCB thought that by preventing our players from participating in the IPL, they will be able to sabotage the tournament. However, their delusions backfired and IPL grew bigger and bigger each year.

As a result of PCB’s bravado, the franchises lost faith in Pakistani players because they could simply no longer trust the PCB.

If they could prevent their players from participating in IPL 2 due to political reasons, they could do the same in the future.

A year later, PCB was in a better mood and decided to allow its players to play in the IPL, but this time, they completely ignored the Pakistani players and caused PCB tremendous humiliation.

At some point, Pakistani players would have been banned anyway. However, PCB’s arrogance and hot-headedness escalated the situation.

Had they not reacted in IPL 2, our players would have played at least 3-4 seasons of IPL which is a lot of money. In fact, someone like Amir may not have been tempted by the prospects of spot-fixing had he played in IPL 2010.

Pakistani fans who are whining about IPL discriminating against Pakistan should understand that this discrimination is a self-created problem.

The blame for our players missing out on IPL is entirely on PCB’s head. Yes IPL reacted very strongly, but Pakistani players cannot walk in and out of the IPL based on PCB’s mood.

Our players do not deserve to be snubbed because it isn’t their problem, but PCB fully deserves to have its players banned by IPL.

 

[Suleiman]

The fact that PCB is responsible for Pakistani players getting snubbed by the IPL seems to be lost on quite a few.

You have to feel sorry for our players who have missed out on millions thanks to the stunt that the PCB pulled off in 2009, a stunt that backfired spectacularly.

For those who are unaware of the series of events, I will provide a summary.

As a retaliation to India accusing Pakistan of orchestrating Mumbai attacks, PCB decided to retaliate by blocking Pakistani players from participating in IPL 2.

Pakistani players were integral members of the franchises in IPL 1, and it was quite a blow for their management who had to hurrily find their replacements.

The PCB thought that by preventing our players from participating in the IPL, they will be able to sabotage the tournament. However, their delusions backfired and IPL grew bigger and bigger each year.

As a result of PCB’s bravado, the franchises lost faith in Pakistani players because they could simply no longer trust the PCB.

If they could prevent their players from participating in IPL 2 due to political reasons, they could do the same in the future.

A year later, PCB was in a better mood and decided to allow its players to play in the IPL, but this time, they completely ignored the Pakistani players and caused PCB tremendous humiliation.

At some point, Pakistani players would have been banned anyway. However, PCB’s arrogance and hot-headedness escalated the situation.

Had they not reacted in IPL 2, our players would have played at least 3-4 seasons of IPL which is a lot of money. In fact, someone like Amir may not have been tempted by the prospects of spot-fixing had he played in IPL 2010.

Pakistani fans who are whining about IPL discriminating against Pakistan should understand that this discrimination is a self-created problem.

The blame for our players missing out on IPL is entirely on PCB’s head. Yes IPL reacted very strongly, but Pakistani players cannot walk in and out of the IPL based on PCB’s mood.

Our players do not deserve to be snubbed because it isn’t their problem, but PCB fully deserves to have its players banned by IPL.

You speak the truth, but some people will still manage to get personal with you.

It's easy to look away from the truth and blame it on xyz rather than face the facts which might be uncomfortable to do at times.

 

[PakLFC]

Couldn't give a toss coz I never watched it anyway no matter where I am. Here's hoping all top Indian boys especially Kohli and Bumrah get badly injured. If India does not show the PSL there is no reason for Pak to air the IPL. Ban Indian flights over our airspace, ban Bollywood and now the IPL it is time to pay India back with the same coin.

 

[Tiger96]

Couldn't give a toss coz I never watched it anyway no matter where I am. Here's hoping all top Indian boys especially Kohli and Bumrah get badly injured. If India does not show the PSL there is no reason for Pak to air the IPL. Ban Indian flights over our airspace, ban Bollywood and now the IPL it is time to pay India back with the same coin.

Lol @ banning Bollywood. A day could arrive when Indians get bored out of Bollywood but Pakistani qoum can never survive without Bollywood.

Pakistanis are the most Bollywood obsessed people in the World.

 

[gazza619]

Some people are in perpetual denial, but the majority are sensible enough to realise that the PSL is nothing more than speck of dust compared to the IPL, and if the players are given a choice between the two leagues, none of them will opt to play in the PSL.

However, the decision to block coverage in Pakistan is not an attempt to derail IPL. We are not capable of hurting the IPL even if we want to.

We already tried it in 2009 when we blocked our players from participating because the Indian government blamed us for Mumbai attacks, but that misadventure backfired spectacularly and we have learned our lesson.

Can you kindly do not use the term ‘we’

99.9% of Pakistanis do not agree to your anti national sentiments. So better to just say ‘Pakistanis’ when referring to Pakistan

 

[Rana]

The fact that PCB is responsible for Pakistani players getting snubbed by the IPL seems to be lost on quite a few.

You have to feel sorry for our players who have missed out on millions thanks to the stunt that the PCB pulled off in 2009, a stunt that backfired spectacularly.

For those who are unaware of the series of events, I will provide a summary.

As a retaliation to India accusing Pakistan of orchestrating Mumbai attacks, PCB decided to retaliate by blocking Pakistani players from participating in IPL 2.

Pakistani players were integral members of the franchises in IPL 1, and it was quite a blow for their management who had to hurrily find their replacements.

The PCB thought that by preventing our players from participating in the IPL, they will be able to sabotage the tournament. However, their delusions backfired and IPL grew bigger and bigger each year.

As a result of PCB’s bravado, the franchises lost faith in Pakistani players because they could simply no longer trust the PCB.

If they could prevent their players from participating in IPL 2 due to political reasons, they could do the same in the future.

A year later, PCB was in a better mood and decided to allow its players to play in the IPL, but this time, they completely ignored the Pakistani players and caused PCB tremendous humiliation.

At some point, Pakistani players would have been banned anyway. However, PCB’s arrogance and hot-headedness escalated the situation.

Had they not reacted in IPL 2, our players would have played at least 3-4 seasons of IPL which is a lot of money. In fact, someone like Amir may not have been tempted by the prospects of spot-fixing had he played in IPL 2010.

Pakistani fans who are whining about IPL discriminating against Pakistan should understand that this discrimination is a self-created problem.

The blame for our players missing out on IPL is entirely on PCB’s head. Yes IPL reacted very strongly, but Pakistani players cannot walk in and out of the IPL based on PCB’s mood.

Our players do not deserve to be snubbed because it isn’t their problem, but PCB fully deserves to have its players banned by IPL.

I read your posts with the K3G sad theme going on in my head. You have posted this argument time and time again. Feel sorry for our players missing out on Millions? God is the true provider and every soul shall get what it is truly entitled to. Alhamdolillah, our top class players earn enough around the world even if they miss out on fat IPL pay cheques.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Some people are in perpetual denial, but the majority are sensible enough to realise that the PSL is nothing more than speck of dust compared to the IPL, and if the players are given a choice between the two leagues, none of them will opt to play in the PSL.

However, the decision to block coverage in Pakistan is not an attempt to derail IPL. We are not capable of hurting the IPL even if we want to.

We already tried it in 2009 when we blocked our players from participating because the Indian government blamed us for Mumbai attacks, but that misadventure backfired spectacularly and we have learned our lesson.

What is this obsession with the IPL? Why can't you let PSL be its own thing? The IPL is a behemoth and there is no need or reason to compete with it. The primary goals of the league should be unearthing talent, entertainment for the masses and putting young players in pressure situations that bring the best out of them. We all know PSL is nothing more than a speck of dust compared to the IPL but I don't care and I fail to see why it even matters.

 

[PakLFC]

Lol @ banning Bollywood. A day could arrive when Indians get bored out of Bollywood but Pakistani qoum can never survive without Bollywood.

Pakistanis are the most Bollywood obsessed people in the World.

Yes many Pakistanis are Bolly obsessed however that will not end the ban. Lets face it both Pakistan and India only really have Bollywood and Cricket as a form of entertainment. Both just make up the numbers in other mainstream Sports. Our own Lollywood needs at least another ten years to get anywhere , currently nothing worthwhile is being produced. I stopped watching Bollywood about ten years back.

 

[Pak Warrior]

I read your posts with the K3G sad theme going on in my head. You have posted this argument time and time again. Feel sorry for our players missing out on Millions? God is the true provider and every soul shall get what it is truly entitled to. Alhamdolillah, our top class players earn enough around the world even if they miss out on fat IPL pay cheques.

Well said brother, I know mamoon is a doctor but I think he needs meds for his anti-pak thinking. He even said himself that eventually our players would have banned anyway but PCB arrogance escalated situation. If they are going to ban us anyway then what does it matter?

Did PCB or any cricketer carry out attacks on India? Did our actors and singers do any attacks on India? It is the innocent people from our end that are always being black listed and banned by Indians, they always try to defame entire nation for actions of few. Money generated by cricketers, actors, and singers doesnt fund terrorism. Isolation and hate mongering creates more hate and gives breeding ground to terrorists. Had people not been banned they would have more people to people contact and see that most Pakistani are good people, and condemn terror just like the Indians are and do.

 

[Balthazar]

Good. Well it hardly matters as an Indian, but this is a good news.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

The fact that PCB is responsible for Pakistani players getting snubbed by the IPL seems to be lost on quite a few.

You have to feel sorry for our players who have missed out on millions thanks to the stunt that the PCB pulled off in 2009, a stunt that backfired spectacularly.

For those who are unaware of the series of events, I will provide a summary.

As a retaliation to India accusing Pakistan of orchestrating Mumbai attacks, PCB decided to retaliate by blocking Pakistani players from participating in IPL 2.

Pakistani players were integral members of the franchises in IPL 1, and it was quite a blow for their management who had to hurrily find their replacements.

The PCB thought that by preventing our players from participating in the IPL, they will be able to sabotage the tournament. However, their delusions backfired and IPL grew bigger and bigger each year.

As a result of PCB’s bravado, the franchises lost faith in Pakistani players because they could simply no longer trust the PCB.

If they could prevent their players from participating in IPL 2 due to political reasons, they could do the same in the future.

A year later, PCB was in a better mood and decided to allow its players to play in the IPL, but this time, they completely ignored the Pakistani players and caused PCB tremendous humiliation.

At some point, Pakistani players would have been banned anyway. However, PCB’s arrogance and hot-headedness escalated the situation.

Had they not reacted in IPL 2, our players would have played at least 3-4 seasons of IPL which is a lot of money. In fact, someone like Amir may not have been tempted by the prospects of spot-fixing had he played in IPL 2010.

Pakistani fans who are whining about IPL discriminating against Pakistan should understand that this discrimination is a self-created problem.

The blame for our players missing out on IPL is entirely on PCB’s head. Yes IPL reacted very strongly, but Pakistani players cannot walk in and out of the IPL based on PCB’s mood.

Our players do not deserve to be snubbed because it isn’t their problem, but PCB fully deserves to have its players banned by IPL.

I agree that PCB is responsible for Pakistani players being banned in IPL for the stunt that they pulled in IPL 2. However even if they had not done that, after Modi was elected Pakistanis would have been banned. Also its not just cricketers who are banned, it includes actors, musicians, poets, etc. So its understandable if India is boycotting Pakistan, then Pakistan would boycott India. And while Pakistan boycotting IPL, or Bollywood wont hurt those industries even 1%, it lets the people of Pakistan maintain some self respect, in the sense that if you dont want anything to do with us, then fine we also wont have anything to do with you.

 

[Hasan123]

[MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION] said multiple times he watches IPL.. thinks he isn't Pakistani then..

I do watch the IPL but this year it is going to be extremely difficult as there are no rights for UK broadcasters. I don’t think I will be watching it too much this year due to this.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Chaudhry is right... taking away 5-10 million in viewership is a lot and the way IMG Reliance pulled the plug on the PSL was just outrageous.

If BCCI cared about Pakistani viewership then they would try to get Pakistani players, No?

 

[Hitman]

The fact that PCB is responsible for Pakistani players getting snubbed by the IPL seems to be lost on quite a few.

You have to feel sorry for our players who have missed out on millions thanks to the stunt that the PCB pulled off in 2009, a stunt that backfired spectacularly.

For those who are unaware of the series of events, I will provide a summary.

As a retaliation to India accusing Pakistan of orchestrating Mumbai attacks, PCB decided to retaliate by blocking Pakistani players from participating in IPL 2.

Pakistani players were integral members of the franchises in IPL 1, and it was quite a blow for their management who had to hurrily find their replacements.

The PCB thought that by preventing our players from participating in the IPL, they will be able to sabotage the tournament. However, their delusions backfired and IPL grew bigger and bigger each year.

As a result of PCB’s bravado, the franchises lost faith in Pakistani players because they could simply no longer trust the PCB.

If they could prevent their players from participating in IPL 2 due to political reasons, they could do the same in the future.

A year later, PCB was in a better mood and decided to allow its players to play in the IPL, but this time, they completely ignored the Pakistani players and caused PCB tremendous humiliation.

At some point, Pakistani players would have been banned anyway. However, PCB’s arrogance and hot-headedness escalated the situation.

Had they not reacted in IPL 2, our players would have played at least 3-4 seasons of IPL which is a lot of money. In fact, someone like Amir may not have been tempted by the prospects of spot-fixing had he played in IPL 2010.

Pakistani fans who are whining about IPL discriminating against Pakistan should understand that this discrimination is a self-created problem.

The blame for our players missing out on IPL is entirely on PCB’s head. Yes IPL reacted very strongly, but Pakistani players cannot walk in and out of the IPL based on PCB’s mood.

Our players do not deserve to be snubbed because it isn’t their problem, but PCB fully deserves to have its players banned by IPL.

PCB banned their players in the 2009 edition of IPL not because of the Mumbai attacks but because India refused to tour Pakistan in Jan of 2009 (due to security reasons), as was scheduled.

 

[Asif321]

India giving it back by not telecasting Pakistan Australia series

 

[IMMY69]

If BCCI cared about Pakistani viewership then they would try to get Pakistani players, No?

Maybe they were happy with the viewership they already had?
Maybe they don’t care? Maybe they’ll only feel the affect once the ban kicks in or maybe they won’t?
In the grand scheme of things the only thing that matters is that IPL is banned in Pakistan....

 

[cricketjoshila]

Maybe they were happy with the viewership they already had?
Maybe they don’t care? Maybe they’ll only feel the affect once the ban kicks in or maybe they won’t?
In the grand scheme of things the only thing that matters is that IPL is banned in Pakistan....

May be the scheme isnt grand at all. Thats why bcci doesnot care.

 

[Mamoon]

I read your posts with the K3G sad theme going on in my head. You have posted this argument time and time again. Feel sorry for our players missing out on Millions? God is the true provider and every soul shall get what it is truly entitled to. Alhamdolillah, our top class players earn enough around the world even if they miss out on fat IPL pay cheques.

What line of thinking is this? Yes Allah Almighty is the provider, but does that mean that we should not criticize the PCB for their foolhardiness?

Or perhaps you don’t have a job and aren’t looking for one either, because “Alhamdolillah He is the provider and He will provide for you” while you sit at home and do nothing?

 

[Mamoon]

I agree that PCB is responsible for Pakistani players being banned in IPL for the stunt that they pulled in IPL 2. However even if they had not done that, after Modi was elected Pakistanis would have been banned. Also its not just cricketers who are banned, it includes actors, musicians, poets, etc. So its understandable if India is boycotting Pakistan, then Pakistan would boycott India. And while Pakistan boycotting IPL, or Bollywood wont hurt those industries even 1%, it lets the people of Pakistan maintain some self respect, in the sense that if you dont want anything to do with us, then fine we also wont have anything to do with you.

True, but Modi was elected in 2014 while we managed to isolate our players in 2009. Several of our players missed out on at least 3-4 editions of IPL.

 

[Mamoon]

What is this obsession with the IPL? Why can't you let PSL be its own thing? The IPL is a behemoth and there is no need or reason to compete with it. The primary goals of the league should be unearthing talent, entertainment for the masses and putting young players in pressure situations that bring the best out of them. We all know PSL is nothing more than a speck of dust compared to the IPL but I don't care and I fail to see why it even matters.

I believe that most of the obsession has been the other way round. The number of people who try to make the PSL look better than the IPL (due to inferiority complex) with foolish justifications are significantly greater than the number of people who belittle PSL.

 

[Rana]

What line of thinking is this? Yes Allah Almighty is the provider, but does that mean that we should not criticize the PCB for their foolhardiness?

Or perhaps you don’t have a job and aren’t looking for one either, because “Alhamdolillah He is the provider and He will provide for you” while you sit at home and do nothing?

I stand by my line of thinking, I do not feel any pity for Pakistani players missing out on money because they will not die starving the way you put it across in the first place. Stick to the topic and talk about Pakistani players, they don't sit home idol waiting for handouts or payouts to come through. They still travel and break their back to earn enough.

Missing out on IPL cash is and was not the end of the day, so stop making it sound as if our players are below the poverty line for not getting it.

 

[Mamoon]

I stand by my line of thinking, I do not feel any pity for Pakistani players missing out on money because they will not die starving the way you put it across in the first place. Stick to the topic and talk about Pakistani players, they don't sit home idol waiting for handouts or payouts to come through. They still travel and break their back to earn enough.

Missing out on IPL cash is and was not the end of the day, so stop making it sound as if our players are below the poverty line for not getting it.

Our players are not below the poverty line and earn huge money to live comfortable lives in Pakistan. However, had PCB not acted like fools and showed their short-sightedness, our players would have earned a lot more.

Using religion and fate as a justification for PCB’s mistake is not the answer. If that is so, you can defend anything because that how Allah SWT intended it to happen.

You can defend the spot-fixing trio as well because it was written in their destiny. How far are you willing to go with this logic?

The bottom-line is, our players missed out on a lot of money because of the arrogance of PCB. That is all.

 

[Savak]

Our players are not below the poverty line and earn huge money to live comfortable lives in Pakistan. However, had PCB not acted like fools and showed their short-sightedness, our players would have earned a lot more.

Using religion and fate as a justification for PCB’s mistake is not the answer. If that is so, you can defend anything because that how Allah SWT intended it to happen.

You can defend the spot-fixing trio as well because it was written in their destiny. How far are you willing to go with this logic?

The bottom-line is, our players missed out on a lot of money because of the arrogance of PCB. That is all.

The PCB may have been following dictats from the Govt of Pakistan.

 

[Rana]

Our players are not below the poverty line and earn huge money to live comfortable lives in Pakistan. However, had PCB not acted like fools and showed their short-sightedness, our players would have earned a lot more.

Using religion and fate as a justification for PCB’s mistake is not the answer. If that is so, you can defend anything because that how Allah SWT intended it to happen.

You can defend the spot-fixing trio as well because it was written in their destiny. How far are you willing to go with this logic?

The bottom-line is, our players missed out on a lot of money because of the arrogance of PCB. That is all.

Do you even understand my logic? Im not even arguing from the 'Destiny' point of you, Im simply arguing from the perspective that we should be thankful for what he have been provided for and not cry over what could have been. I am sure the likes of Umar Akmal are thankful for the many opportunities they have been provided for across the globe as compared to what you think they should have got. Thats my point of view. Read the posts, all of it before you draw a conclusion.

PCB and short sightedness, what do you have to say about the MOU deceit and the attempt to oust PCB in the current world cup? It all seems fair and logical now does it not?

 

[IMMY69]

May be the scheme isnt grand at all. Thats why bcci doesnot care.

The Indian government may not care but some Indians do and that is a fact.
You yourself are example of that.. clearly you have a great interest in Pakistan...

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I believe that most of the obsession has been the other way round. The number of people who try to make the PSL look better than the IPL (due to inferiority complex) with foolish justifications are significantly greater than the number of people who belittle PSL.

Such people are clearly deluded.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The Indian government may not care but some Indians do and that is a fact.
You yourself are example of that.. clearly you have a great interest in Pakistan...

I will watch any cricket thats on tv. But there are very few crazies like me.

 

[Mamoon]

Do you even understand my logic? Im not even arguing from the 'Destiny' point of you, Im simply arguing from the perspective that we should be thankful for what he have been provided for and not cry over what could have been. I am sure the likes of Umar Akmal are thankful for the many opportunities they have been provided for across the globe as compared to what you think they should have got. Thats my point of view. Read the posts, all of it before you draw a conclusion.

PCB and short sightedness, what do you have to say about the MOU deceit and the attempt to oust PCB in the current world cup? It all seems fair and logical now does it not?

MOU deceit? There was no deciet - we misinterpreted the exchange as a binding contract, and that is why we lost the case and had to pay them millions to cover their legal costs.

As far as BCCI attempting to oust Pakistan from the World Cup is concerned, even the most ardent anti-Pakistani personnel in BCCI knew that it was never going to happen. However, it doesn’t justify what they did.

As far as the statement that we should be thankful for what we have and not lament what we missed on, well that is easy for you to say because you are not a cricketer and your career is not only 15 years long at best.

Say you were a cricketer. Would you not regret the fact that you missed out on a league that pays far more more than your cricket board and other leagues, and also has the best players in the world at its disposal, all because of the foolishness of your board?

If you are honest with yourself, you will only have one answer.

 

[Mamoon]

The PCB may have been following dictats from the Govt of Pakistan.

Possibly, but nevertheless, it was our short-sightedness that cost the players. We should have known that if we are going to pull out our players, it is highly unlikely that they would welcome our players in the future with open arms.

As a result, at a time of the year where the likes of Umar and Shehzad were sitting at home or playing a team of IPL rejects, they could have been playing high quality T20 cricket against packed crowds in pressure situations.

Not to mention the opportunity of playing alongside elite players in their prime.

 

[gani999]

Has any ban on anything ever worked in Pakistan, or even in India for that matter?

Pakistanis who want to watch the IPL will find a way, ban or no ban.

Weren't Bollywood moves banned in Pakistan at some point? It had zilch effect. Pakistani Bollywood fans managed to watch their favourite movies. The only people who benefited from the ban were movie pirates.

 

[tijnar]

Being an Indian, I watched psl highlight s and I will only watch ipl highlight on YouTube and hotstar. So, do whatever you want.

 

[Stewie]

I think these T20 leagues ran on a novelty factor and its running out.

You see the same faces, same style of cricket whether it is BBL, CPL, Bangladesh League, IPL or PSL. Its over saturated in my opinion and unless it is your own country’s domestic league, you wouldn’t keep track of all the leagues and teams and maintain your interest.

In due time, we will see the interest trends shift completely back to international cricket. Yes cricketers make more money playing in these leagues but most people don’t have time to watch all these dime a dozen T20 tourneys and will simply wait for international cricket like World Cups and such and their country’s big ticket bilateral series.

At least thats how I feel..

 

[Syed1]

I will tune into watch if on PP I hear someone is playing an absolute blinder other than that I usually never watch it or actively seek it out. It's a good league but just not my cup of tea.

 

[Mahee]

Great decision by Pakistan government

 

[a_tahir]

I will tune into watch if on PP I hear someone is playing an absolute blinder other than that I usually never watch it or actively seek it out. It's a good league but just not my cup of tea.

Same. I just have no connection with it.

 

[Rana]

MOU deceit? There was no deciet - we misinterpreted the exchange as a binding contract, and that is why we lost the case and had to pay them millions to cover their legal costs.

As far as BCCI attempting to oust Pakistan from the World Cup is concerned, even the most ardent anti-Pakistani personnel in BCCI knew that it was never going to happen. However, it doesn’t justify what they did.

As far as the statement that we should be thankful for what we have and not lament what we missed on, well that is easy for you to say because you are not a cricketer and your career is not only 15 years long at best.

Say you were a cricketer. Would you not regret the fact that you missed out on a league that pays far more more than your cricket board and other leagues, and also has the best players in the world at its disposal, all because of the foolishness of your board?

If you are honest with yourself, you will only have one answer.

There was no deciet, ive heard it all now!

Back to the topic about the Players missing out in their short careers of 15 years, lets examine who missed out in this period.

Afridi
Razzaq
Akhtar
- - - - -
Umar Akmal
Umar Gul possibly
Ajmal for quite a bit
Shoaib Malik
- - - - -
Imad Wasim
Babar Azam
Fakhar Zaman maybe?

You cannot list loads of players who would have actually been picked as top draw overseas picks. So its not like these super rich boys (Barring Razzaq and Gul maybe) have pretty much lost out on the opportunity to make savings for the future. Afridi and Akhtar are doing superbly well. Umar and Babar are well on their way to have net worths over a million dollars if not more even at this stage.

Unless you have proof besides this im happy and waiting to hear it from you. But dont pull out facts from the back of your mind.

 

[Mamoon]

There was no deciet, ive heard it all now!

Back to the topic about the Players missing out in their short careers of 15 years, lets examine who missed out in this period.

Afridi
Razzaq
Akhtar
- - - - -
Umar Akmal
Umar Gul possibly
Ajmal for quite a bit
Shoaib Malik
- - - - -
Imad Wasim
Babar Azam
Fakhar Zaman maybe?

You cannot list loads of players who would have actually been picked as top draw overseas picks. So its not like these super rich boys (Barring Razzaq and Gul maybe) have pretty much lost out on the opportunity to make savings for the future. Afridi and Akhtar are doing superbly well. Umar and Babar are well on their way to have net worths over a million dollars if not more even at this stage.

Unless you have proof besides this im happy and waiting to hear it from you. But dont pull out facts from the back of your mind.

You just listed a dozen players and then you question that I cannot list loads of players. It is not just about top draw picks - for e.g., in the 2010 auction, fringe players were sold for over USD 100,000, which is huge, huge money for a young Pakistani player like Umar who was a far bigger draw than some of these players at that time.

The likes of Afridi, Malik etc. would have bagged far and beyond that amount at that time. Yes they are super rich anyway, but they would have been mega rich had they played a few seasons of IPL.

Why is that hard to understand? Who wouldn’t want to earn more money legally? Would our players not want to double their net worths?

The likes of Babar, Fakhar and Imad are not the best examples because I believe Pakistani players would have been snubbed post 2014 anyway, and besides, IPL franchises have become increasingly ruthless with their selections in recent years, and have not been shy of ignoring big name players.

However, during IPL’s formative years, several Pakistani players would have been big draws. Someone like Tanvir would have played for at least two more seasons based on his performance in the inaugural season alone.

The notion that there is nothing wrong with the fact that our players missed out on IPL money because they are rich anyway is one of the most ridiculous arguments I have heard.

 

[Rana]

You just listed a dozen players and then you question that I cannot list loads of players. It is not just about top draw picks - for e.g., in the 2010 auction, fringe players were sold for over USD 100,000, which is huge, huge money for a young Pakistani player like Umar who was a far bigger draw than some of these players at that time.

The likes of Afridi, Malik etc. would have bagged far and beyond that amount at that time. Yes they are super rich anyway, but they would have been mega rich had they played a few seasons of IPL.

Why is that hard to understand? Who wouldn’t want to earn more money legally? Would our players not want to double their net worths?

The likes of Babar, Fakhar and Imad are not the best examples because I believe Pakistani players would have been snubbed post 2014 anyway, and besides, IPL franchises have become increasingly ruthless with their selections in recent years, and have not been shy of ignoring big name players.

However, during IPL’s formative years, several Pakistani players would have been big draws. Someone like Tanvir would have played for at least two more seasons based on his performance in the inaugural season alone.

The notion that there is nothing wrong with the fact that our players missed out on IPL money because they are rich anyway is one of the most ridiculous arguments I have heard.

No it is not, why are you hurting when the players themselves are not showing signs of hurt??

"Yes they are super rich anyway, but they would have been mega rich had they played a few seasons of IPL."

Do you just argue just for the sake of arguing? Ive asked you simply to back your claim about how Pakistanis have missed out big time and fallen far behind the rest of the world's elite players with facts, and if that is the case are those Pakistani players starving or crying about it? Until you have some realistic facts and figures to back your claim I would suggest that you stop acting like you are truly hurt for their financial loss.

 

[Mamoon]

No it is not, why are you hurting when the players themselves are not showing signs of hurt??

"Yes they are super rich anyway, but they would have been mega rich had they played a few seasons of IPL."

Do you just argue just for the sake of arguing? Ive asked you simply to back your claim about how Pakistanis have missed out big time and fallen far behind the rest of the world's elite players with facts, and if that is the case are those Pakistani players starving or crying about it? Until you have some realistic facts and figures to back your claim I would suggest that you stop acting like you are truly hurt for their financial loss.

Remind why for years, our players (before the advent of PSL) publicly voiced their displeasure at being unable to play in the IPL? Were they upset that they didn't get to enjoy Indian food? Or do they simply love spending time in India?

Has it occurred to you that perhaps it had something to do with the fact that they were missing out on a lot of money?

Facts and figures?

Have you cared to compare how much our players earn from international cricket compared to their counterparts in India, Australia and England? They earn peanuts, even when we consider the relatively lower cost of living in Pakistan. Are these not facts for you?

As I have repeatedly stated, it is not about starving. It is about the fact that our players have missed out on a lot of money by not playing in the IPL. Just because the likes of Afridi and Malik are millionaires doesn't mean that they wouldn't have liked to double their net worths.

As far as "crying" is concerned, yes our players did cry over missing out on IPL before the PSL era. Every year you would get a statement from some player of ours on how they would like to play in the IPL. You have been longer on PP than I have - surely you would remember our fans criticising our players for being obsessed with IPL.

I am not acting like I am hurt for their financial loss. Frankly speaking, I don't care about their financial status and I wouldn't care even if some of them end up bankrupt. I am simply stating a fact that PCB's foolhardiness cost our players at least 2-3 seasons of IPL which is a lot of money. I am not sure why this is a problem for you and what is there to argue about.

 

[DRsohail]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is right PCB managment made fool out of themsleves.

 

[Technics 1210]

Fantastic news. Government should concentrate on quality, not quantity.

 

[Zhasan]

I will tune into watch if on PP I hear someone is playing an absolute blinder other than that I usually never watch it or actively seek it out. It's a good league but just not my cup of tea.

I would never take any batting performance, no matter how extraordinary, serious or give it an ounce of credit, for being played in India. Pitches used in LOIs' in India are the flattest in the world and grounds are not the biggest either.

 

[Technics 1210]

It is many things, but most importantly, it is the tournament that brought PSL into existence.

Ridiculous logic. You might as well claim the ECB brought the IPL into existence given ECB were responsible for the T20 format.

 

[Sachin136]

I would never take any batting performance, no matter how extraordinary, serious or give it an ounce of credit, for being played in India. Pitches used in LOIs' in India are the flattest in the world and grounds are not the biggest either.

SA and England have worse ODI pitches. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Bilal7]

It does not matter what happened in 2009. The ICC is presently discriminating against Pakistani cricketers, which is why any talk of "not mixing politics with sports" is rubbish.

Pakistani players are not up for auction. That is not the decision of the franchises, that is the decision of the BCCI. You cannot force someone to hire you but when you are not allowed to even apply for a job, that is structural discrimination.