Govt sends domestic violence bill to Council of Islamic Ideology

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Adviser to the Prime Minister on Parliamentary Affairs Babar Awan has written a letter to National Speaker Asad Qaiser, seeking a review of the Domestic Violence (Prevention and Protection) Bill, 2021, by the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) — a constitutional body that advises the legislature on whether or not a certain law is repugnant to the injunctions of Islam.

In the letter dated July 5, 2021, Awan has pointed out that the bill, initially passed by the National Assembly (NA) in April this year, was referred back to the Lower House of Parliament after the Senate suggested amendments to the proposed law.

The letter further states that concerns have been raised "regarding various definitions and other contents of the bill."


It adds: "Most importantly it is being highlighted that the bill contravenes the Islamic [injunctions] and way of life as enshrined in responsibility of the state in Article 31 of the Constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan".

Citing Article 230 (1) (b) of the Constitution, the letter says it "empowers the Islamic Council (CII) to advise a House, a Provincial Assembly, a President or a Governor on any question referred to it as to whether proposed law is or is not repugnant to the [injunctions] of Islam".

Moreover, under Article 230 (1) (a), the body can make recommendations to parliament regarding ways and means to encourage Muslims in Pakistan to lead their lives, individually and collectively, in accordance with the principles of Islam, Awan has stated in the letter.

On these grounds, he wrote, it is advisable that the bill be referred to the CII.

Passage of the bill

The Domestic Violence (Prevention and Protection) Bill, 2021, was initially moved in the NA by Human Rights Minister Shireen Mazari on April 19, 2021, and was passed by the Lower House the same day.

Through this act, a legal and institutional framework had been proposed for the territorial jurisdiction of Islamabad to ensure that victims of domestic violence were provided legal protection and relief and the perpetrators of this offence were punished, Mazari had said.

The bill was then referred to the Senate, where the opposition had defeated the government by one vote to block the immediate passage of the proposed law, insisting that the bill be referred to the relevant standing committee for further deliberation.

At the time, PPP's Yousuf Raza Gilani, the leader of opposition in the Senate, had argued that while the bill was an important legislation that had taken months to be cleared from the NA, it needed to be referred to the standing committee.

A voice vote was then suggested to decide on the matter and when the opposition had defeated the government by 35-34, the Senate chairperson had directed the then yet-to-be-formed committee to present its report to the House on the matter two days after its formation.

Senate committee report

The Senate Committee on Human Rights had later submitted the report on June 18, mentioning that the bill aimed to "establish an effective system for the protection, relief and rehabilitation of women, children, elders and other vulnerable persons against domestic violence in the territorial jurisdiction of Islamabad Capital Territory".

According to the report, the law will empower courts to grant interim orders, protection custody and residence orders and award monetary relief to victims at the expense of respondents, and lead to the establishment of a protection committee to assist aggrieved persons and process their applications in court.

The report, however, had proposed multiple amendments to the draft as well, following which the bill was again referred to the NA.

'Disappearing into a black hole'

Last month, the opposition in the Senate had raised alarm over the bill, along with other key human rights legislatures, disappearing into a black hole to emerge in the form of government bills.

“A wrong practice is going on for quite some time which is a disincentive for members of the Senate who work hard on the bills with the civil society and their colleagues,” PPP parliamentary leader Senator Sherry Rehman had said while raising the issue in the house.

She had regretted that instead of using parliamentary committees for scrutinising and reviewing bills, countless progressive bills had just vanished from parliamentary agendas under the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) government.

“It is shocking how my Bill, ‘Domestic Violence (Prevention and Protection) Bill, 2020’, has been silently omitted from the agenda," Rehman had added.

CII's earlier ruling on domestic violence

In 2016, the CII had proposed a bill that allowed a husband to "lightly" beat his wife "if needed" and prohibited mixing of the genders in schools, hospitals and offices.

That proposal had come under fire by rights activists.

Farzana Bari, human rights activist and academic at Quaid-i-Azam University, had termed the proposed bill unconstitutional.

“Allowing a husband to beat his wife, in any way, is against Pakistan’s Constitution and the international laws and treaties that Pakistan has signed and is bound by. This Council is a burden on the Pakistani taxpayer and bringing a bad name to Muslims throughout the world,” she had said, warning that the bill “will take Pakistan further into ignorance.”

Source: https://www.google.com.hk/amp/s/www.dawn.com/news/amp/1633531
 
As I had expected, Imran has buckled and has decided to send the recently-passed bill to the CII.

For the past two days, social media users, journalists and clerics has been expressing anger over a bill that prohibited husbands from striking their wives. Yes. You heard it right. They have argued not beating women is against our culture.

Ansar Abbasi said that this bill would tear families apart because wives would report their husbands for domestic violence. Clerics has said the same as well as the average Pakistan. A twitter trend with the hastag # We_reject _domestic_violence bill has been trending for two days.
 
What is wrong? As I have said before, this country is the most misogynist place on the planet.


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Very vocal against atrocities in Kashmir and Palestine but turns into a Cat while dealing with any unrest led by Mullahs ( TLP ) or this women's issue in his own country. ��

Considering how concerned he is about other issues outside his jurisdiction, one would think he's PM of Kashmir or Palestine and not Pakistan.
 
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Domestic violence should not be endorsed by religion. Clerics power should be curtailed, it's not the 7th century any more.
 
Per the Article the opposition is the one who rejected this bill. Second this bill was created by PTI. PTI creates a bill for to protect women from domestic violence, the opposition rejects it, and PTI is to blame? Really?

The Domestic Violence (Prevention and Protection) Bill, 2021, was initially moved in the NA by Human Rights Minister Shireen Mazari on April 19, 2021, and was passed by the Lower House the same day.

Through this act, a legal and institutional framework had been proposed for the territorial jurisdiction of Islamabad to ensure that victims of domestic violence were provided legal protection and relief and the perpetrators of this offense were punished, Mazari had said.

The bill was then referred to the Senate, where the opposition had defeated the government by one vote to block the immediate passage of the proposed law, insisting that the bill be referred to the relevant standing committee for further deliberation.
 
Per the Article the opposition is the one who rejected this bill. Second this bill was created by PTI. PTI creates a bill for to protect women from domestic violence, the opposition rejects it, and PTI is to blame? Really?

That is old news. The bill was recently passed with the help of the PPP, especially Sherry Rehman who strongly favoured the bill.
 
Funny how not a single IK fan enters these topics, the man has gone down so many levels he makes zadari look good.
 
JUI-F to lead religious parties in forming strategy against domestic violence bill

  • Fazl says domestic violence bill against teachings of Islam, Quran and Constitution.
  • Warns of religious parties' protests against govt's move to "secularise country through such bills".
  • The bill outlaws physically aggressive acts like hitting, kicking, slapping, and throwing objects as well as emotionally abusive acts like threats, emotional and economic abuse.

Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam Fazl (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman is not pleased with the domestic violence and Waqf properties bills, which are both under consideration in the Parliament. He says the bills are against the teachings of Islam, Holy Quran and the Constitution.

The Domestic Violence (Protection and Prevention) Bill 2020, which seeks to prevent domestic abuse against women, children, the elderly and vulnerable persons, was presented in the National Assembly last month.

Fazl said that the JUI-F will hold a meeting of all religious parties to come up with a strategy against the bills. The JUI-F chief was holding a news conference at the Karachi residence of Shah Owais Noorani, the chief of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Pakistan where he revealed that a committee comprising lawyers and scholars had been formed against the bills.

The Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM) warned that religious parties across the country will take to the streets to oppose “the government’s move to secularise the country through such bills”.

He clarified that religious parties stand against domestic violence, but said that the domestic violence bill "is aimed at destroying family life and promoting Western culture and values rather than Islamic ones.”

The JUI-F chief urged people to unite against those who wanted to impose the culture of the West in Pakistan, alleging that the bill seeks to destroy the dignity of women.

'We know the politics of the PPP well'

Fazl spoke about the PDM's upcoming meeting on August 11, saying that the heads of all political parties of the alliance will meet in Islamabad to come up with a joint strategy against the government.

He clarified that the PPP will not be invited to the meeting, adding that it left the alliance due to its politics. "They should reconsider their policy. We know the politics of the PPP well."

The PDM president rejected the government's electoral reforms, including the use of electronic voting machines, saying that such measures brought about a government that had itself formed as a result of 'rigging' and it was not acceptable.

He also described the government's move to hold local government elections as a 'sham'.

Afghanistan turmoil

Fazl shared his thoughts on the ongoing conflict in Afghanistan, with three key provincial capitals falling to the Taliban in as many days. He said that it was a positive development that the Taliban were willing to initiate negotiations.

However, he expressed his disappointment that Pakistan had not been invited to discuss the situation in the Security Council meeting. Fazl mocked the government, saying that the US president was not willing to consider Pakistan as a stakeholder in the Afghanistan situation as well.

“President Joe Biden is not ready to talk to the fake prime minister of the country and is reluctant to trust Pakistan.”

Provisions of the domestic violence bill

As per the contents of the domestic violence bill, domestic abuse, which includes physically aggressive acts like hitting, kicking, slapping, and throwing objects as well as emotionally abusive acts like threats, emotional and economic abuse, have been outlawed.

The bill aims to establish an effective system of protection, relief and rehabilitation of women, children, elders and other vulnerable persons against domestic violence in the territorial jurisdiction of Islamabad Capital Territory. It will provide relief to victims of domestic violence who are in a domestic relationship and are related to each other by consanguinity, marriage and kinship etc.

The bill also empowers courts to grant interim orders, protective custody and residence orders as well as award monetary relief to victims of violence at the expense of the respondent.

The bill also envisages the creation of a Protection Committee to assist the aggrieved person and process his/her application in court. The Ministry of Human Rights arranged a number of consultations with the relevant stakeholders and also obtained a no-objection certificate from the Ministry of Interior, being the relevant ministry, to deal with issues of violence.

A few days later, Adviser to the Prime Minister on Parliamentary Affairs Babar Awan wrote a letter to National Assembly Speaker Asad Qaiser, seeking a review of the domestic violence bill by the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII).

In his letter, Awan pointed out that the Senate had urged amendments to the bill and how certain definitions and contents of the bill had raised concerns.

"Most importantly it is being highlighted that the bill contravenes the Islamic [injunctions] and way of life as enshrined in responsibility of the state in Article 31 of the Constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan," read the letter.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/364264-jui-f-to-lead-religious-parties-in-forming-strategy-against-domestic-violence-bill
 
If the culture or family values of a nation stand on violence,then we need to throw such hideous cultural practices in the bin!

All these clerics are missing whenever a woman is killed for marrying a man of choice, or when a woman is attacked with acid for refusing marriage or when a woman is raped. Why don’t these clerics take to streets then? All these bloodthirsty monsters come alive when it comes to women empowerment and stopping injustice against women.

Well, given Imran’s track record, I am very sure he would suspend the bill because he is too afraid of the right-wing.
 
If the culture or family values of a nation stand on violence,then we need to throw such hideous cultural practices in the bin!

All these clerics are missing whenever a woman is killed for marrying a man of choice, or when a woman is attacked with acid for refusing marriage or when a woman is raped. Why don’t these clerics take to streets then? All these bloodthirsty monsters come alive when it comes to women empowerment and stopping injustice against women.

Well, given Imran’s track record, I am very sure he would suspend the bill because he is too afraid of the right-wing.

Has nothing to do with Imran Khan.

Read post #1 and then I will edit out your post
 
Has nothing to do with Imran Khan.

Read post #1 and then I will edit out your post

It has. Because Imran Khan referred it to the CII. So, PM Imran is indeed very much involved in this bill. Also, I mentioned Imran Khan because he has always surrendered whenever the right wing gave him the heat. Be it Atif Mian, the TLP, Mufti Muneeb etc.

Despite the ever-increasing violence against women, Imran Khan is showing no urgency in passing legislation related to protection of women. As the head of the country, the bucks stops at the PM.
 
PM Khan has once again surrendered to the clerics. He should hand over the affairs of the country to the rightwing.

‘Anti-domestic violence bill is against Islam; I will not enact it,’. PM Imran Khan.
 
What is wrong? As I have said before, this country is the most misogynist place on the planet.


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Whats wrong?

#4 - so if you are not happy in your marriage, and you hint at divorce, that's domestic violence?

also in Islam second marriage is allowed, and it cant take place without permission of the women per Pakistani law, so why is it domestic violence if the man mentions it?

# 5 - we are going to send people to jail over this? So if someone tells their wife I saw your sister flirting with this guy, thats domestic violence? that deserves jail?

# 2 - Deals with insults. You want to send people to jail over insults?

And what exactly counts as an insult? Its vague. For example What if you tell your wife that her cooking sucks, or she look fat, is that worthy of sentencing someone to jail?

# 3 - impossible to prove, will result in a he said she said scenario.

# 9 - most women in Pakistan live with their in laws. So now the man can go to jail for this, if he does not provide a separate home?
 
Whats wrong?

#4 - so if you are not happy in your marriage, and you hint at divorce, that's domestic violence?

also in Islam second marriage is allowed, and it cant take place without permission of the women per Pakistani law, so why is it domestic violence if the man mentions it?

# 5 - we are going to send people to jail over this? So if someone tells their wife I saw your sister flirting with this guy, thats domestic violence? that deserves jail?

# 2 - Deals with insults. You want to send people to jail over insults?

And what exactly counts as an insult? Its vague. For example What if you tell your wife that her cooking sucks, or she look fat, is that worthy of sentencing someone to jail?

# 3 - impossible to prove, will result in a he said she said scenario.

# 9 - most women in Pakistan live with their in laws. So now the man can go to jail for this, if he does not provide a separate home?

I can tell you have never lived in Pakistan because you do not know the dynamics of our society.

4. Men and in-laws in Pakistan threaten women with divorce if they give birth to a baby girl. Hundreds of women are killed and tens of thousands are divorces because husbands link marriage with male offspring. A family in Lahore burned their DiL to death for giving birth to a baby girl. This is a routine occurrence.

5. That is to counter honor killings and forced marriages.

2. That is to counter demeaning treatment of wife by husbands and in-laws.Psychological abuse such as threatening violence if the wife does not cook for the whole extended family and wash the clothes of the husband’s brother’s kids.

3. Threatening to kill someone is an offence in most countries. Nothing out of the ordinary.

9. Husbands force their wives to ‘entertain’ their friends and some force them into prostitution. Two weeks back, a man killed his wife after she refused to have sexual relations with the husband’s friends.

Like I have said before, you have never lived in Pakistan so you do not know the kind of savagery and barbarity women in this country face!
 
4. Men and in-laws in Pakistan threaten women with divorce if they give birth to a baby girl. Hundreds of women are killed and tens of thousands are divorces because husbands link marriage with male offspring. A family in Lahore burned their DiL to death for giving birth to a baby girl. This is a routine occurrence.

5. That is to counter honor killings and forced marriages.

2. That is to counter demeaning treatment of wife by husbands and in-laws.Psychological abuse such as threatening violence if the wife does not cook for the whole extended family and wash the clothes of the husband’s brother’s kids.

3. Threatening to kill someone is an offence in most countries. Nothing out of the ordinary.

People have the right to divorce for any reason. Divorce is allowed in Islam.

And there are already laws against murder and honor killings specifically. Why is there a need for a new law. Will the people committing these crimes stop because of this new law?

And as far as psycological abuse, I will give you that one. If their is no law on the books for that, then they should add it. However men can face psycological abuse as well. Its sexist if the law only protects women.

9. Husbands force their wives to ‘entertain’ their friends and some force them into prostitution. Two weeks back, a man killed his wife after she refused to have sexual relations with the husband’s friends.

Their are laws against rape. And that section in most situations will be applied to living with inlaws, not this extreme example when the husband lets his wife get raped.

Like I have said before, you have never lived in Pakistan so you do not know the kind of savagery and barbarity women in this country face!

This is besides the point, but if you must know I was born in Pakistan and lived there until I was 9. I have many relatives there, most of whom live in the upper middle class. I know exactly how much privilege the liberal type women who drafted these laws have. They should treat their maids better before lecturing others.
 
People have the right to divorce for any reason. Divorce is allowed in Islam.

And there are already laws against murder and honor killings specifically. Why is there a need for a new law. Will the people committing these crimes stop because of this new law?

And as far as psycological abuse, I will give you that one. If their is no law on the books for that, then they should add it. However men can face psycological abuse as well. Its sexist if the law only protects women.



Their are laws against rape. And that section in most situations will be applied to living with inlaws, not this extreme example when the husband lets his wife get raped.



This is besides the point, but if you must know I was born in Pakistan and lived there until I was 9. I have many relatives there, most of whom live in the upper middle class. I know exactly how much privilege the liberal type women who drafted these laws have. They should treat their maids better before lecturing others.

Like I have have said before, husbands threaten their wife with divorce if they give birth to a baby girl which is unjust. Why do you think this practice is fine?

These new laws are drafted to stop the kind of environment in homes that would result in honor killings and forced marriages.

The laws are not sexist because they included all genders who reside in a family; the law does not apply to females only.


What is the link between liberal women and this bill? Liberal means somebody who believes in equal rights for all. What is wrong in being a liberal?
 
The Council of Islamic Ideology has deemed the Supreme Court’s recent decision to grant the first wife the right to dissolve her marriage in the event of her husband’s second marriage without permission as contrary to Sharia law

On October 23, the Supreme Court ruled that the first wife could terminate the marriage contract if her husband undertakes a second marriage without her consent. A three-member SC bench led by Justice Mansoor Ali Shah had announced the decision in an 18-page decision.

In light of this context, CII Chairman Raghib Naeemi has responded to the Supreme Court’s decision, expressing concerns regarding its alignment with Islamic principles.

Chairman Naeemi stated that Sharia law imposes no restrictions on a man taking multiple wives.

According to the Constitution, he added that no law can contradict the Quran and Sunnah.

While expressing respect for the Supreme Court’s ruling, Naeemi asserted the council’s right to provide a religious perspective on the matter, stating that the recent Supreme Court decision aligns with the “land of law” but contradicts Sharia principles.

He announced that the CII will include a discussion of the SC’s ruling in its upcoming meeting agenda.

Source: Aaj News
 
pakistan walks a strange tight rope between cultural religioustity and outright indifference to individual accountability, the vast majority i would hazard are more than happy living with a laissez faire approach to religion, but are would not explicitly say so, for fear of social ostracisation, or outright fear of persecution. this contradiction is at the heart of the weakening of the social contract in the country.
 
The Council of Islamic Ideology has deemed the Supreme Court’s recent decision to grant the first wife the right to dissolve her marriage in the event of her husband’s second marriage without permission as contrary to Sharia law

On October 23, the Supreme Court ruled that the first wife could terminate the marriage contract if her husband undertakes a second marriage without her consent. A three-member SC bench led by Justice Mansoor Ali Shah had announced the decision in an 18-page decision.

In light of this context, CII Chairman Raghib Naeemi has responded to the Supreme Court’s decision, expressing concerns regarding its alignment with Islamic principles.

Chairman Naeemi stated that Sharia law imposes no restrictions on a man taking multiple wives.

According to the Constitution, he added that no law can contradict the Quran and Sunnah.

While expressing respect for the Supreme Court’s ruling, Naeemi asserted the council’s right to provide a religious perspective on the matter, stating that the recent Supreme Court decision aligns with the “land of law” but contradicts Sharia principles.

He announced that the CII will include a discussion of the SC’s ruling in its upcoming meeting agenda.

Source: Aaj News
Dr Muhammad Raghib Hussain Naeemi was appointed as Chairman of the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) in May 2024. Three points can be made in relation to his appointment. But, first, a little bit of context.

Dr Muhammad Raghib Hussain Naeemi’s grandfather was Mufti Muhammad Hussain Naeemi, who had served on the CII in 1977 and 1986. He had founded the Jamia Naeemia in Lahore, which has become one of most prominent of the Barelvi madrasas in Pakistan.

Mufti Muhammad Hussain Naeemi son - and Dr Muhammad Raghib Hussain Naeemi father was Dr Muhammad Sarfraz Naeemi. He became the senior alim and principal at Jamia Naeemia and was head of the wafaq of Barelvi madrasas (Tanzeem-ul Madaris Ahl-i-Sunnat Pakistan). He also received a LLB and PhD from the University of Punjab and had studied at Al-Azhar in Cairo. He was seen as a quite ‘progressive’ alim. He offered strong support to the Pakistan military in the fight against Tehreek-e-Taliban (TTP). He was killed in a suicide bombing in 2009 for which the TTP claimed responsibility.

Dr Muhammad Raghib Hussain Naeemi is Vice-Chancellor of Jamia Naeemi. He studied at Government College Lahore, and earned master’s degree in Arabic and PhD in Islamic Studies from Punjab University. He too, has “stressed dealing with everyday affairs with moderation and sincerity.” (https://www.pu.edu.pk/home/section/press/14961)

The first point is: the rise of what the German academic, Sarah Holz, called the “mazhabi scholar.” In her book on the CII (Governance of Islam in Pakistan) she points that a trend that began in the 1970s has intensified since the 1990s; namely that the membership of the CII has generally shifted away from western educated scholars - who had limited or no madrasa education - to mazhabi scholars who had a “mix of dini madaris and university education; often PhD in Arabic or Islamic Studies primarily from domestic universities or abroad from Muslim-majority countries.” Both Dr Muhammad Sarfraz Naeemi and Dr Muhammad Raghib Hussain Naeemi reflect this trend.

It also fits with the wider comment that the scholar Muhammad Qasim Zaman made in his brilliant book, Islam in Pakistan:

Where most religious scholars of the late nineteenth and the early twentieth centuries had been entirely lacking in any formal exposure to Western learning…it is not unusual for leading figures among the contemporary `ulama to have had some schooling in the Western sciences. Indeed, some of their success in reaching broader audiences rests precisely on an ability to demonstrate a familiarity with modern forms of knowledge, including the English language. It is no exaggeration to say that the contemporary `ulama have done better at acquiring Western learning, and at benefiting from so doing, than the modernists have in developing a credible grounding in the Islamic tradition and in enhancing the religious credentials.

The second point relates to the thread that @FearlessRoar made on family dynasties in politics (https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...-is-a-long-standing-issue-in-pakistan.315756/). The influence and positions of these scholars at the Jamia Naeemi points to wider importance of dynastic practice in Pakistan. It is part of cultural life in Pakistan, where sons often follow in the footsteps of their fathers and is not restricted to political life. Here 'inherited' capital seems to matter.

Linked to this, the third point relates to the importance of connections and social and cultural capital. The Dawn reported on the appointment of Dr Muhammad Raghib Hussain Naeemi that: “At the same time Allama Naeemi is a supporter of PML-N and his spouse Nabeera Raghib Naeemi, was a PML-N MPA in Punjab Assembly on reserved seat in 2018.” (https://www.dawn.com/news/1834893) I am certainly not saying his appointment was not deserved but clearly the eminence of the family history and their contributions to Pakistani society along with political connections with the PML-N is likely to have had some influence in the decision making process. This said the appointment process to the CII is so opaque, it is hard to know for sure what considerations are made.
 
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