Great players who didn't play in an ICC tournament final - Let alone win it!

[Slog]

All the great Saffers:

Kallis, Smith, Donald, Pollock, AB De Villiers, Steyn, Boucher etc etc

Waqar Younis (he missed both 1992 and 1999)

who are the others?

 

[Slog]

Actually come to think of it. Donald, Pollock, Kallis and Boucher from above list did play in 98 CT Final

so AB, Smith, Steyn are there

 

[starbuck]

VVS Laxman and Justin Langer

 

[msb314]

1) Mohammad Azharuddin
2) Courtney Walsh
3) Curtley Ambrose
4) Mohammad Yousuf
5) VVS Laxman
6) Zaheer Abbas
7) Greg Chappell
8) Majid Khan
9) Stephen Fleming
10) Andy Flower

 

[msb314]

Also Anil Kumble!

Did not play in the 2003 WC final.

 

[ToeCrusher2]

Shoaib Akhtar?

Edit: He played the 99 final, my bad

 

[despondent_artist]

Umm Brian Charles Lara...

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

Umm Brian Charles Lara...

Played 98 icc knockout championship final

 

[Dead Ball]

Lara/Ambrose/Hadlee/ABDV/Steyn.

 

[Slog]

Played 98 icc knockout championship final

also 2004 CT final

 

[JaDed]

1) Mohammad Azharuddin
2) Courtney Walsh
3) Curtley Ambrose
4) Mohammad Yousuf
5) VVS Laxman
6) Zaheer Abbas
7) Greg Chappell
8) Majid Khan
9) Stephen Fleming
10) Andy Flower

+Hadlee,Crowe.

 

[JaDed]

Guessing its the Windies,Kiwis player of 90s.

 

[Dead Ball]

Played 98 icc knockout championship final

Oh yes.

Lara failed, scoring just 11. Kallis owned the final taking a 5 fer and scoring 40 odd iirc.

 

[JaDed]

[MENTION=137804]msb314[/MENTION] Fleming 2000 champ trophy and Greg Chapell 1975 final

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

1) Mohammad Azharuddin
2) Courtney Walsh
3) Curtley Ambrose
4) Mohammad Yousuf
5) VVS Laxman
6) Zaheer Abbas
7) Greg Chappell
8) Majid Khan
9) Stephen Fleming
10) Andy Flower

I think Fleming played 2000 final , I will add waqar to the list , great odi bowler to never play any icc final.

 

[Stewie]

Yousaf played the 99 final, didn't he?

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

[MENTION=17315]Stewie[/MENTION] I think he didn't play 99 final

 

[TahirFan]

This thread is a bit ironic because PP posters only regard cricketers as great if they win an ICC knockout tournament

So how can Kallis, Smith, Donald, Pollock, AB De Villiers, Steyn, Boucher be regarded as great if they did not even play in an ICC tournament

 

[pakistani pride]

Yousaf played the 99 final, didn't he?

I think he didnt. The senior salim uncle palyed that game i guess.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

This thread is a bit ironic because PP posters only regard cricketers as great if they win an ICC knockout tournament

So how can Kallis, Smith, Donald, Pollock, AB De Villiers, Steyn, Boucher be regarded as great if they did not even play in an ICC tournament

They all are test atg and Donald , ABD, Pollock are odi atg also. Boucher is neither.

 

[KyoOne]

I think he didnt. The senior salim uncle palyed that game i guess.

It was shocking how Yousuf was dropped after just 4 games. He was the highest averaging Pakistani in that tournament, despite coming late in order (no 6), scoring 161 runs in four innings, averaging 53.66.

His only failure came when he was runned out after a mix-up with Inzi.

Wasim did a lot of suspicious stuff in that tournament. Not least winning the toss on green pitch and batting first

 

[msb314]

[MENTION=137804]msb314[/MENTION] Fleming 2000 champ trophy and Greg Chapell 1975 final

okay thanks!

 

[ZyzzBrah]

Umar Akmal

 

[Pak_lover6]

Bradman

 

[hamaadqureshi819]

VVS Laxman and Justin Langer

the thread speaks about great odi players. Laxman, at best, was a below average odi player

 

[MMHS]

Mohammad Hafeez.

 

[thehub]

SA won 98 champion trophy finals. Isn't it? So kallis and Donald has played the finals and won.

 

[SandyB]

the thread speaks about great odi players. Laxman, at best, was a below average odi player

Agree. Laxman was mediocre. Kumble was way more deserving.

 

[Zeshan547]

Mohammad Hafeez.

Your love for National treasure has no bounds, Or you got carried away a little here.

 

[MMHS]

Your love for National treasure has no bounds, Or you got carried away a little here.

May be both, but I can explain.

For best part of a decade this guy MoHa, in PAK team -

1. Had been only player to be automatic choice in all 3 formats
2. Only guy who has opened with bat & ball
3. Only guy who has been picked on triple skills - either with bat or ball & for a good period both
4. Among few players who had Category A contract for almost a decade
5. Fields at 1st slip in Test, extra cover in LOs - 2 most prestigious fielding spots in a game of cricket
6. Had been Captain of a WC team
7. Among few players, who could choose his batting spot
8. Only player in the game, who had been called for chucking, took his time for reassessment & did that on his own comfort and has make a successful come back in the team with a remodeled action on his reputation, more than anything else (you can check stats).

Now, as I mentioned many times - PAK is a former World Champion in both shorter formats, was World's No. 1 Test team & still holds a positive W/L in Test, ODI & T20. And, this guy is given the legend status by such a country with 70 years of glorious cricket past - he must have to be one of the greats of the game.

You can't blame me, if PAK lowers their standard in this regard - this guy is given the status what SRL did to Sanath or India to Kapil ......... I am just stating the obvious. If PAK is a great cricket nation, MoHa has to be one of the greats of the game, who didn't ever play in an ICC final.

He has the chance to rewrite history though in less than 24 hours time.

 

[Slog]

It was shocking how Yousuf was dropped after just 4 games. He was the highest averaging Pakistani in that tournament, despite coming late in order (no 6), scoring 161 runs in four innings, averaging 53.66.

His only failure came when he was runned out after a mix-up with Inzi.

Wasim did a lot of suspicious stuff in that tournament. Not least winning the toss on green pitch and batting first

Yousuf was injured, not dropped

 

[msb314]

Mohammad Hafeez.

Even before the CT final - National Treasure played in the 2007 world T20 final

 

[zacattakk]

It was shocking how Yousuf was dropped after just 4 games. He was the highest averaging Pakistani in that tournament, despite coming late in order (no 6), scoring 161 runs in four innings, averaging 53.66.

His only failure came when he was runned out after a mix-up with Inzi.

Wasim did a lot of suspicious stuff in that tournament. Not least winning the toss on green pitch and batting first

What are you talking about, Yousaf was injured a few games in, hence he didn't feature in the tournament after that.

 

[MMHS]

Even before the CT final - National Treasure played in the 2007 world T20 final

My apologizes to the great - now I can recall. Those days, he was a tail-ender who could bowl a bit, hence couldn't recall. Either way, he is out of a list that has Zaheer Abbas, Abdul Qadir, Majid Khan, Waquar, MoYo & Saeed Ajmal - only from PAK.

 

[PakLFC]

Richard Hadlee and Martin Crowe I believe. Abdul Qadir who was a great I believe also did not play a major ICC final.

 

[Justcrazy]

Has to be mostly Saffers.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Also Anil Kumble!

Did not play in the 2003 WC final.

I think Kumble played ICC Champions trophy final in 2002 against Sri Lanka.

 

[msb314]

My apologizes to the great - now I can recall. Those days, he was a tail-ender who could bowl a bit, hence couldn't recall. Either way, he is out of a list that has Zaheer Abbas, Abdul Qadir, Majid Khan, Waquar, MoYo & Saeed Ajmal - only from PAK.

Also Saeed Ajmal played in the 2009 World T20 final that we won - he even bowled out all his overs as SL were restricted to 138/6.

 

[PakLFC]

Clive Rice. A very good all rounder who never got to play much if any international Cricket for South Africa. He was one of the best all rounders of the golden 1970's and 1980's era. Clive would have been spoken in the same category as Imran, Kapil, Botham and Hadlee had he been an international.

 

[MMHS]

Also Saeed Ajmal played in the 2009 World T20 final that we won - he even bowled out all his overs as SL were restricted to 138/6.

2nd mistake - can't recall much of that T20 final.

 

[msb314]

2nd mistake - can't recall much of that T20 final.

No worries - even I struggle to remember T20 matches and who played what in that format.

ODI World Cup and CT are still the premier events IMO.

 

[waleed88]

Umm Brian Charles Lara...

Wasnt he captain of WI in 2004 CT

 

[htariq25]

Imran farhat, Ahmed shehzad, umar akmal, kamran akmal, rafatullah mohmand, faisal iqbal

 

[hadi123]

Imran farhat, Ahmed shehzad, umar akmal, kamran akmal, rafatullah mohmand, faisal iqbal

Kamran Akmal has played in a World T20 final. 2009 and we actually won that final

 

[CanadianG00se]

Imran farhat, Ahmed shehzad, umar akmal, kamran akmal, rafatullah mohmand, faisal iqbal

Wasn't Kamran part of World t20 2009 winning team?

 

[msb314]

Kamran Akmal has played in a World T20 final. 2009 and we actually won that final

Wasn't Kamran part of World t20 2009 winning team?

Yes and Kammy also played in the 2007 World T20 final (at no. 3)

 

[pakistani pride]

It was shocking how Yousuf was dropped after just 4 games. He was the highest averaging Pakistani in that tournament, despite coming late in order (no 6), scoring 161 runs in four innings, averaging 53.66.

His only failure came when he was runned out after a mix-up with Inzi.

Wasim did a lot of suspicious stuff in that tournament. Not least winning the toss on green pitch and batting first

Indeed. Was very harsh on moyo to be dropped.

 

[Major]

Zimbabwean greats

 

[htariq25]

Wasn't Kamran part of World t20 2009 winning team?

Oops my bad