Haris Rauf should be fast tracked to the limited overs team

[ethan hunt]

Don't know why he isn't talked about enough.
Think he has immense upside in limited overs cricket and can easily increase his pace even further as he is fairly new to the hard bowl circuit.
He has a beautiful outswinger with the new ball and naturally reverses the old one with a very good yorker.
Should have debuted vs Australia and ideally should be around the squad. discuss.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good pace and impressive bowling from Haris Rauf who took 2-48 today for Balochistan versus Punjab <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanCup?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakistanCup</a> <a href="https://t.co/PpvTqKpGp3">pic.twitter.com/PpvTqKpGp3</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1113138909859471361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[TalentSpotterPk]

I hope he has a good Pakistan Cup. A fivefer is needed.


He has potential.


If he is amongst top 2-3 pacers of Pakistan Cup than he should be part of 18 member squad.


Pakistan will carry 2-3 extra players for World Cup.

 

[ethan hunt]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good pace and impressive bowling from Haris Rauf who took 2-48 today for Balochistan versus Punjab <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanCup?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakistanCup</a> <a href="https://t.co/PpvTqKpGp3">pic.twitter.com/PpvTqKpGp3</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1113138909859471361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Very impressive. That yorker was very sharp.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Still feel it's early for him.

But he provides something we lack: death bowling and good yorkers. It's why we lost the series against Aus.

Ideally I would have him play more FC games first, but beggars can't be choosers. With Amir, Junaid not at their best Pak has some serious issues.

 

[Hasan123]

I would take him over Shinwari and Wahab.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

It was stupid not to select him.

 

[aloo paratha]

He, and Zafar Gohar sat at home while 'new players' like Abbas and Yasir Shah were bowling for us... Our management is really dumb.

 

[gazza619]

I really like this guy. Just out of interest, can he bat a bit?

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Lovely spell. I remember someone said he is like Wahab. Lol he is no way like Wahab. I have never seen Wahab getting outswing with the new ball and this guy is bowling proper conventional swing. Good pace too.

 

[Titan24]

Even in PSL he looked more prepared for international cricket than Hasnain is at the moment.

Good seam position which helps him swing the new bowl with decent control, can push the pace close to the 150 kph, can reverse swing the bowl and can bowl one of the best yorkers around even taking into account international pacers.

What else you need in a fast bowler, maybe Inzi and Mickey can answer that.

 

[The Yorker]

Rauf is a much better prospect than Husnain and it was very poor selection policy to leave him out. He has an outside chance of getting to the world cup. He needs to have blindlingly great performance to make it now.

 

[hadi123]

He faded away at the end of PSL tbh, but if he has an amazing Pakistan Cup then maybe

 

[Titan24]

He faded away at the end of PSL tbh, but if he has an amazing Pakistan Cup then maybe

Yes he didnt took 4fers or 3fers towards the end but still his economy and death bowling was right up there. LQ not going through didnt help his chances to impress further.

 

[Markhor]

Nice to see a Pakistani pacer actually swing the new white ball.

 

[Syed1]

Nice to see a Pakistani pacer actually swing the new white ball.

Also nice to see Inzi ignore Rauf despite looking like the superior bowler but picks Hasnain instead who is VERY raw and doesn't have a clue how to pick a wicket in ODI cricket since he has not played any one-dayers.



At first I thought Inzi was just dumb and incompetent, but now I think he is full on corrupt as well.



Won't see you calling him out though.

 

[Mirpur express]

Not ready for international cricket yet.

 

[hadi123]

Yes he didnt took 4fers or 3fers towards the end but still his economy and death bowling was right up there. LQ not going through didnt help his chances to impress further.

IIRC he bottled it in that tight game vs PZ

 

[iPakistani]

IIRC he bottled it in that tight game vs PZ

But so did Shaheen in one of the games he went 0-62 or something and he's the leader of the Pakistan attack at the world cup. Haris Rauf should really be tried, he looks better than the young Hasnain.

 

[Markhor]

Also nice to see Inzi ignore Rauf despite looking like the superior bowler but picks Hasnain instead who is VERY raw and doesn't have a clue how to pick a wicket in ODI cricket since he has not played any one-dayers.



At first I thought Inzi was just dumb and incompetent, but now I think he is full on corrupt as well.



Won't see you calling him out though.

Don't want either to be selected. As I've said before, youngsters should not be fast-tracked from a few PSL performances but pay their dues in domestic cricket.

 

[hadi123]

But so did Shaheen in one of the games he went 0-62 or something and he's the leader of the Pakistan attack at the world cup. Haris Rauf should really be tried, he looks better than the young Hasnain.

Yes but Shaheen is established in the Pakistan team. Haris Rauf is a newbie looking to stake his claim as a wildcard selection for Pakistan in the biggest cricket tournament in the world. Performances like that really are a no-no if the odds are stacked that much against your favour.

 

[mak36]

Also nice to see Inzi ignore Rauf despite looking like the superior bowler but picks Hasnain instead who is VERY raw and doesn't have a clue how to pick a wicket in ODI cricket since he has not played any one-dayers.



At first I thought Inzi was just dumb and incompetent, but now I think he is full on corrupt as well.



Won't see you calling him out though.

So you have gone from criticising Inzi for "only selecting TTFs" to criticising him for selecting new players.

p.s. this was Rauf's List A debut too.

 

[mak36]

As I wrote in his thread he exposed the domestic kings for what they are, that too in his List A debut!

 

[sshakir411]

They had one pick for a total noob... and that was Hasnain. Right or wrong, it is what it is. Rauf should not lose hope.. he will make it to the national squad soon. Should focus on all the games he can get under his belt right now.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Shouldnt dismiss Hasnain just like that to praise Haris. I though hassu was pretty good too and is a quick learner.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

I love Haris with the new ball. Pace and swing! Havent seen him much with the old ball.

 

[Mueez]

We need to carry on after WC and replace Shinwari and Amir with Hasnain and Rauf.

This will be the way forward.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I liked the look of Rauf and Hasnain, just a pity they didn't get more exposure before now. The WC has probably come to early for them, not sure either are ready for the heat of a world cup competition.

 

[Bewal Express]

This world cup is a year or two early for all 3 young fast bowlers-obviously Afridi is the closest but Hasnain and Haris just need a little more experience. Although Their competitors like Amir and Shinwari are either past it or just not good enough.

 

[shokz1408]

I feel he will be in the squad for the first series following the world cup, in the T20 format.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

This world cup is a year or two early for all 3 young fast bowlers-obviously Afridi is the closest but Hasnain and Haris just need a little more experience. Although Their competitors like Amir and Shinwari are either past it or just not good enough.

None of the alternatives are. I would go for Wahab personally if we are looking for an out and out pace option. He's flawed as well, but he has experience, and can still bowl super fast. I don't think we need a bunch of players who all bowl the same pace unless they are producing consistently good results.

 

[moghul]

Not at all ready for big league , need to play and prove himself in couple of FC season. Some speedy deliveries in PSL is no criterion to be selected in national team.

 

[saeed5646]

Not at all ready for big league , need to play and prove himself in couple of FC season. Some speedy deliveries in PSL is no criterion to be selected in national team.

the irony of this post is you have not watch his recent two match performances that too 50 over touranment name as pakistan cup where every bowler is giving away more than 70 in 10 overs

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

the irony of this post is you have not watch his recent two match performances that too 50 over touranment name as pakistan cup where every bowler is giving away more than 70 in 10 overs

Do you think that it is a coincidence that many of the players who somewhat underperformed in the PSL are now showing superb form? Might it be because the Pakistan Cup doesn't have the overseas stars which makes the PSL a tougher place to perform?

 

[saeed5646]

Do you think that it is a coincidence that many of the players who somewhat underperformed in the PSL are now showing superb form? Might it be because the Pakistan Cup doesn't have the overseas stars which makes the PSL a tougher place to perform?

To put in simple words some of them are HTB and don.t have mental capacity to bear the international cricket pressure.
Secondly in the pakistan cup there is hardly any plan for players weakness and push them out of comfort zone .Psl have high quality standards where just like international cricket every player weakness is exploited. This is were Pakistan cup is lagging behind

 

[Sher Khan]

Do you think Haris Rauf is more “ready” for international cricket than Mohammad Hasnain?

I personally think Haris Rauf is more skilled and ready for international cricket than hasnain. As we saw, during the Pakistan Cup where all bowlers struggled finding any lateral movement. Rauf was bowling big booming outswingers. We also saw him vary his length across his spells. Which is a good sign as he is not a one trick pony relying on yorkers.

Hasnain on the other hand seems like a work in progress. Fair enough, he is seven years younger than Rauf. But his deliveries are all over the place, and he is yet to find control and accuracy to go alongside his pace. To me, he doesn’t have that deadly factor that rauf has.

Did the Pakistan team management mess up, and select the wrong guy???

 

[ethan hunt]

He certainly should have over the likes of Musa and Irfan.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Definitely more than Hasnain but not sure if he's ready fully for international cricket.

 

[ethan hunt]

What a wonderful spell the other day.
Just saw some highlights.
The only bowler who has swung the new ball .
The most pleasing thing though was the pace he was bowling at.
Happy that he has completely recovered, never seen him bowl as quick and ive seen him touch 152 kph.

 

[naseem]

Definitely over Hasnain.....
Hasnain have pace and have seen him to square up the batsmen but still very raw

 

[shamaan]

Rauf showing that he can bowl with the new ball love is passion

 

[Firebat]

Haris Rauf finishing with 3/26 from his 4 overs in Northern's win over CP.

 

[Abdullah719]

Really good spell with the new ball again so far (a recurring theme).

 

[ataullah]

Seriously enjoyed his bowling. For me he's our best bowler with Shaheen right now. Naseem, Musa, Hasnain and the rest are a tier below. Things could change offcourse

 

[ethan hunt]

He deserves an extended run with the new ball for the national limited over side .

He can run through sides with the pace and attacking lines he bowls .

His new ball skills are much better than his death skills , must bowl with the new ball.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Really good spell with the new ball again so far (a recurring theme).

Come on, he is another Wahab, isn't he?
Like wahab also used to bowl well with the new ball, didnt he? Oops, maybe he didnt.

Who cares, our resident doom and gloom propaganda machine told us that he has got a terrible mentality and is going to disappear into oblivion very soon.
That outswing you see with the new ball, and the attacking wicket taking mindset are all your fantasies.

 

[MenInG]

Really good spell with the new ball again so far (a recurring theme).

Has taken 4/24 in 4 overs, bowling master class

 

[Titan24]

Ended with 4/24 in his 4 overs which includes one maiden at the beginning. Needs to ball more yorkers which are his strength at the end.

 

[Bewal Express]

Looking at how poor our ODI team is, a Strike bowler knocking out the oppositions top order would help massively

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

He could have very easily taken, 5, 6 wickets today. Two plumb LBW's were not given in his favour.

He is a potent strike bowler, with all the wicket taking skills, and has an ultra aggressive mindset.

We haven't had such a bowler for a while; apart from Shaheen, as most of the bowlers in the recent past are content with playing a defensive mindset.

 

[MenInG]

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Speaking in a PCB video

 

[Forum363]

Surprising, I never thought he would be a good new ball bowler. Having watched him previously, I thought he would go down the Umar Gul route of being a Yorker / death overs specialist.

Any videos of his spell today?

 

[Abdullah719]

Surprising, I never thought he would be a good new ball bowler. Having watched him previously, I thought he would go down the Umar Gul route of being a Yorker / death overs specialist.

Any videos of his spell today?

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[Thunderbolt14]

Haris Rauf - our next new ball bowler. Will partner Shaheen within the first 10 overs, and also at the death, for a long time.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

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Bro, dont get excited. This spell is just a fantasy. It only exists in our minds. Haris rauf is another Wahab and is going to disappear in 6 years. #mamoongems

 

[Markhor]

Rauf was swinging the new ball in the 2018 Pakistan Cup when most seamers were getting hit in very friendly batting conditions. So his new ball prowess isn't a surprise, I hope he gets a chance with it for Pakistan.

Unfortunately we waste the new ball because of this defensive UAE ploy of using Imad's darts in the Powerplay instead.

I hope he develops a smoother run up because it's like he's hobbling to the crease in his slippers.

 

[shamaan]

Rauf is bowling really well with the new ball I love his aggression

 

[saabir]

He is a very god new ball bowler. He is at Par with Shaheen. Pakistan need to find and developed 2 more bowlers. Naseem shah and Musa Khan are yet not ready. Hasnain is also not ready and is more of a Mohd Sami Type of bowler. Till then Pakistan have to content with Amir and Wahab.

 

[shamaan]

He is a very god new ball bowler. He is at Par with Shaheen. Pakistan need to find and developed 2 more bowlers. Naseem shah and Musa Khan are yet not ready. Hasnain is also not ready and is more of a Mohd Sami Type of bowler. Till then Pakistan have to content with Amir and Wahab.

Akif javed is one to look out for

 

[QalandarFan]

This is what happens when you fast track guys and they start thinking there better than they are. Not even bowling well in the PSL anymore...

 

[QalandarFan]

He is a very god new ball bowler. He is at Par with Shaheen. Pakistan need to find and developed 2 more bowlers. Naseem shah and Musa Khan are yet not ready. Hasnain is also not ready and is more of a Mohd Sami Type of bowler. Till then Pakistan have to content with Amir and Wahab.

Just stop, at par with Shaheen? My goodness what are you talking about?

 

[ahmadharis1]

Terrible bowler, pace is there at times but no brain at all. And is it just me or does it look like his action is a bit suspect, bit of elbow in there

 

[Mamoon]

The usual delusional suspects overhyped him as usual. He was never good enough and never will be.

Now they will blame Waqar/Misbah/anyone under the sun and also say that he only started bowling with a hard ball 3 days ago.

The next step would be to finally swallow the bitter pill and accept the fact that he is garbage.

This how his career will go from here. He will play about 10 T20Is and 12 ODIs before vanishing into thin air.

This is what happens when you pick people from the streets and overhype them like no tomorrow.

 

[RickyG]

Haris Rauf is a flash in the pan. He's in his late 20s and already at the peak of his prowess. He bowls quick and skids it but it's dead straight. He has no natural swing and can't consistently bowl yorkers. A one trick pony whose only objective is to hurry the batsman which has been found out.

I don't know how this guy is ahead in the pecking order compared to Mohammad Hasnain and many others. Even Dilbar Hussain is better than him. I suppose having the right friends definitely helps. I will say if he was from Hyderabad there would be no hype surrounding him.

 

[Titan24]

Needs to work on his yorkers, has been struggling to bowl them in recent times. Pace alone is not gonna bother modern day batsmen, it has to be backed by right lengths which he is lacking at the death which was supposed to be his strength when he came into the scene.

 

[QalandarFan]

The usual delusional suspects overhyped him as usual. He was never good enough and never will be.

Now they will blame Waqar/Misbah/anyone under the sun and also say that he only started bowling with a hard ball 3 days ago.

The next step would be to finally swallow the bitter pill and accept the fact that he is garbage.

This how his career will go from here. He will play about 10 T20Is and 12 ODIs before vanishing into thin air.

This is what happens when you pick people from the streets and overhype them like no tomorrow.

Exactly, not only is he a terrible bowler but he's got a horrible attitude as well. Can't wait for him to be dumped from the side. It's not like he's young either listed at 27 he's probably already 30+ just drop him now.

 

[TeymurBlake]

He needs to work on his variations. Did not bowl well whatsoever at the death.

 

[Mamoon]

Bro, dont get excited. This spell is just a fantasy. It only exists in our minds. Haris rauf is another Wahab and is going to disappear in 6 years. #mamoongems

6 years? More like 6 months.

 

[Rana]

Happens when you are a genuine 150 kmh bowler and if your radar is slightly off.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

No natural swing, no variations, no bowling iq.
Just bowling 150kph ball after ball isn't going to fetch you much success after the novelty factor wanes off.

 

[QalandarFan]

No natural swing, no variations, no bowling iq.
Just bowling 150kph ball after ball isn't going to fetch you much success after the novelty factor wanes off.

Also acts like he's got the resume of Waqar Younis after taking a wicket, like please, I'd rather have that kid from Multan Sultans Mohammad Ilyas in the team. He's younger got a higher upside and bowled well at the death under pressure today.

 

[Mamoon]

Exactly, not only is he a terrible bowler but he's got a horrible attitude as well. Can't wait for him to be dumped from the side. It's not like he's young either listed at 27 he's probably already 30+ just drop him now.

How can anyone honestly believe that Amir does not deserve to be selected ahead of him.

You want to drop Amir? Fine. However, then pick someone better to watch. You can’t serve me garbage like Rauf and then expect that I will agree that he deserves selection more than Amir.

He could easily go for 50+ on those tiny NZ boundaries if Guptill and co. get hold of him.

At least Amir will use his brain and be economical even if he is wicket-less.

 

[QalandarFan]

I would take him over Shinwari and Wahab.

It was stupid not to select him.

He could have very easily taken, 5, 6 wickets today. Two plumb LBW's were not given in his favour.

He is a potent strike bowler, with all the wicket taking skills, and has an ultra aggressive mindset.

We haven't had such a bowler for a while; apart from Shaheen, as most of the bowlers in the recent past are content with playing a defensive mindset.

And I don't want such a bowler representing Pakistan )

Wahab is a much much much much better bowler than this guy.

 

[Mamoon]

He is basically a street cricketer.

You go go any city/village in the country and you will find plenty of tape ball bowlers like him who are very quick.

However, there is a world of difference between bowling fast and have the skill-set and the mindset to perform in proper, professional cricket.

He is extremely lucky to be playing at this platform.

 

[Hasan123]

And I don't want such a bowler representing Pakistan )

Wahab is a much much much much better bowler than this guy.

Wahab has done well in the last 2 years. At the point he wasn't doing well. But now of course I would take Wahab.

 

[Darkrai]

Rauf and youngsters haven't impressed.

At the moment, it seems likely that Pakistan will play a pace attack of Shaheen, Amir, and Wahab in the world cup.

 

[QalandarFan]

How can anyone honestly believe that Amir does not deserve to be selected ahead of him.

You want to drop Amir? Fine. However, then pick someone better to watch. You can’t serve me garbage like Rauf and then expect that I will agree that he deserves selection more than Amir.

He could easily go for 50+ on those tiny NZ boundaries if Guptill and co. get hold of him.

At least Amir will use his brain and be economical even if he is wicket-less.

I really hope he does, heck I wouldn't be surprised if he breaks some records and goes for 60+

For all the hype about this guys yorkers he can't hit one when it matters and Amir when the pressure was on today hit 8 in a row. It's ridiculous to think that selectors actually believe a tape ball cricketer who just finished the ODI series against Zimbabwe with an average of 88 is better than Amir just because he can crank it up to 150.

Amir and Shaheen are the two best LOI bowlers we have and it's time Misbah and the rest of the PCB realize that, but if Rauf is given a couple T20I's in New Zealand Guptil and company will end this guys career.

The hype brigade is something else a couple of good games in leagues and he's the next Waqar or Akthar. On the other hand 2 bad overs in England and he's finished let's drop him, and forget about everything else he's ever done. Only in Pakistan smh.

 

[QalandarFan]

Wahab has done well in the last 2 years. At the point he wasn't doing well. But now of course I would take Wahab.

Yeah Wahab really turned it around since being selected for the world cup but heck I'd take Wahab over this guy even when he was out of form. At least Wahab was dropped because he got smacked on those flat pitches in England against the most dominant modern batting line-up of all time, this dudes getting smoked on a slow pitch by Viljoen.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He needs to work on his variations. Did not bowl well whatsoever at the death.

To be fair, he had what looked like one caught behind not given followed by a dropped catch. I think what BunnyRabbit has said about no bowling IQ is right on the money. He's got the raw bowling weapons but no idea how to use them.

 

[TeymurBlake]

To be fair, he had what looked like one caught behind not given followed by a dropped catch. I think what BunnyRabbit has said about no bowling IQ is right on the money. He's got the raw bowling weapons but no idea how to use them.

To be fair that may be correct. This is were a good captain and coach come in who can guide him and develop him. But at the age of 27, he probably should be in his peak.

Him being fast tracked into the Intl. setup probably doesn't help either.