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Has Pakistan (finally) grown a spine under Salman Ali Agha ahead of the Asia Cup 2025 encounter(s) against India?

Slim said:
Things are turning back to normalcy as India’s image has eroded world wide on many levels. From the Aman ki Asha to pretending to be Indians after 9/11 to feeling disgust over being confused as an Indian in 2020s is us getting back to how we used to be pre 9/11.

As Indian immigrants to Pakistan aka muhajir have more successive generations in Pakistan, it will further increase since these are the ones in the west that look and talk like Indians.

Im glad this is happening, i would kill myself than to be associated with an Indian. The global hate against them and the recent victories esp in Bunyan al Marsoos have made the younger generation fiercely cling to their pakistaniat even more. Look at instagram reels and you will know what im talking about.
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Yes victories in social media and instagram as you rightly pointed out. Likes of us who knew exactly what happened at that war are very well aware what a failure that Op Bunyan Al Marsoos was. Pakistan tried to copy India's successful Op Sindoor, gave it some big shot arabic name but turned out to be total hoax. LMAO

Also, what global hate against against India? How did you manage to come to that conclusion? Sab kheyali pulao :yk

Good thing is - cricket matches will be shown live. Here you cant claim victories in social media and make kheyali pulaos. The humiliation will be broadcasted live from Dubai.

:kp
 
During the Asia Cup press conference, Suryakumar Yadav and Rashid Khan shared the centre seat and plenty of laughter, while the Pakistan captain was made to sit at a distance and often ignored.

Once the session ended and the captains were getting up, it seemed that Rashid and Suryakumar intentionally delayed standing so Salman could leave first, indirectly refusing to shake hands with him. As soon as Salman was gone, they immediately stood up and warmly greeted the rest of the fellow captains with hugs and handshakes.

I do not support this.

I, for one, have boycotted the India vs Pakistan game due to my political stance and national pride, but if I were present, I would not indulge in such petty behaviour. I feel bad for Salman—he has done nothing wrong and should not be humiliated for the actions of his country’s dictatorship.

 
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The reason for this was to avoid giving ammunition to the media and create unnecessary hate towards the players. Both Rashid and Suriya did not want any kind of backlash against them and were probably adviced to limit interaction given the current atmosphere. We as a cricket fan need to avoid looking into these things and concentrate on cricket only.
 
Pakhs said:
The reason for this was to avoid giving ammunition to the media and create unnecessary hate towards the players. Both Rashid and Suriya did not want any kind of backlash against them and were probably adviced to limit interaction given the current atmosphere. We as a cricket fan need to avoid looking into these things and concentrate on cricket only.
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If it was me I would have given him a pat on his shoulder and wished him good luck against Oman.
 
Agha seems to be a very quiet person by nature. Perhaps an introvert. I did not see anything deliberate on the part of Rashid and Surya to ignore him.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
It's because they are open to criticism, broad-minded, and big-hearted. That's why they even allow thankless people to share their opinions on this forum. We are their guests here. But don't expect the same treatment on Indian forums, I have seen Pakistanis getting banned just for posting *** for tat replies, while the instigators continue posting freely. :inti
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🥾 👅@Devadwal bro can yo see what i am seeing?
 
Bhaijaan said:
During the Asia Cup Press conference, Suryakumar Yadav & Rashid Khan shared center seat and a lot of laughter while Pakistan captain was made to sit at a distance and often ignored.

Once the session ended and captains were getting up, it seems that Rashid & Surya intentionally delayed getting up so Salman could leave, indirectly refusing to shake hands with him. Once Salman was done they immediately stood up and gave a hug and handshake to the rest of the fellow captains.

I do not support this.

I for one have boycotted India vs Pakistan game due to my political stance and national pride but if I’m there I wouldn’t indulge in this petty behaviour. I feel bad for Salman. He’s done nothing wrong and he should not be humiliated for the acts of his dictatorship.

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The interaction was minimal but that’s expected. I didn’t really notice a concerted effort to ignore Agha.

Even if there was, it’s no big deal. What matters is what happens on the field. Saying he was humiliated is hilarious - cricketers have thicker skin than to get humiliated by the behaviors of other captains at press conferences.

Also, what’s Rashid got to do with any of this? lol. Afghanistan is non-party to the whole thing but they do love to cozy up to India, so I won’t be surprised if Rashid is taking this as an opportunity to score some brownie points.
 
InshAllah India will hammer Pakistan. This rubbish Pakistan team and its delusional fans need a dose of reality. Their heads are in the clouds these days but this drama will end soon.
 
Mamoon said:
InshAllah India will hammer Pakistan. This rubbish Pakistan team and its delusional fans need a dose of reality. Their heads are in the clouds these days but this drama will end soon.
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We all know you get really nervous ahead of Pakistan’s big encounters and try to downplay their chances so that you don’t get hurt later.

As I always say to you, it’s just a game. You can hope - don’t be afraid. Losing is not the end of the world. No one is going to mock you.

We’ve seen this coping mechanism from you for far too long now.
 
GudduBadmash said:
No, two superstars ignoring a virtual nobody


It is the same as asking Lewandowski and Yamal to acknowledge Marcus Rashford
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“Lewandowski and Yamal would file a police complaint if they heard they’re being compared to Rashid jalebi and Surya chewing gum.”
And God forbid Rashford has seen enough torture in Manchester United already.
 
Snowflake said:
We all know you get really nervous ahead of Pakistan’s big encounters and try to downplay their chances so that you don’t get hurt later.

As I always say to you, it’s just a game. You can hope - don’t be afraid. Losing is not the end of the world. No one is going to mock you.

We’ve seen this coping mechanism from you for far too long now.
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You can believe what you want to believe, but I have clearly stated that I will not support Pakistan until Babar and Rizwan are back in the team and Agha is removed as captain.

Sidelining those two when they walk into the team with their eyes closed (even on current form) and making Agha captain are not merit-driven decisions. They are agenda-driven decisions.

Therefore, I cannot support Pakistan cricket in these circumstances because my conscience doesn’t allow me to.
 
Bhaijaan said:
During the Asia Cup press conference, Suryakumar Yadav and Rashid Khan shared the centre seat and plenty of laughter, while the Pakistan captain was made to sit at a distance and often ignored.

Once the session ended and the captains were getting up, it seemed that Rashid and Suryakumar intentionally delayed standing so Salman could leave first, indirectly refusing to shake hands with him. As soon as Salman was gone, they immediately stood up and warmly greeted the rest of the fellow captains with hugs and handshakes.

I do not support this.

I, for one, have boycotted the India vs Pakistan game due to my political stance and national pride, but if I were present, I would not indulge in such petty behaviour. I feel bad for Salman—he has done nothing wrong and should not be humiliated for the actions of his country’s dictatorship.

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Pretty sure Salman Does not care about what Rashid and Surya were trying to do as you noticed
 
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Let’s assume Agha would continue to not act weak and stupid with opp players, the other part of spine comes from confidence which is built on performance. Here’s an overview of the current squad with this in mind.


Saim - too inconsistent to be confident
Sahibzada- just establishing, not confident yet in his spot
Fakhar - spine yes because of experience
Agha - some spine (too nice sometimes but I think there is killer instinct)
Hassan Nawaz - yes
Nawaz - shows aggression against ind but can lose the plot
Haris - maybe not spineless but is a walking wicket from ball 1 so doesn’t matter
Faheem - mystery man
Abrar - send off to gill in that shameful loss was overdone and not needed
Shaheen - lovey dovey off the field but goes for kill on the field
Rauf - no aggression towards Ind team
 
chakdeindian said:
im not a star poster like you but I have constantly followed the posts and comments and I say with cent percent assurance that there are equal or more abusers from Pakistan side who are given more liberty...I don't need to interact with everyone to understand the pattern..like your pattern is to having sarcasm added to most of your posts instead of direct answers

Where did I claim Indians are broad minded or Indian forums are ethical..the topic of discussion is not Indian forum..you said Pakistanis in this forum are broad minded for which I responded..I post occasionally, not out of fear, but because of my own commitments and hardly any cricket left with Pakistan to discuss..their own people themselves criticize their team's more than Indians..I only respond when I get time or see some obnoxious comments on India..

You don't have to..i itself admit I'm an occasional poster..I'm more a reader than a poster..but doesn't mean that other Indians in the forum are..just check the stats posts with Indian references and without Indian references and tell me which had more traffic..

It's mainly the curiosity to see the reactions and melt down..if you take 130 crore population, the no of people visiting this forum is negligible, most Indians wouldn't even know this forum exists..so you should not take us as an yardstick.. Leave Indians, how many Pakistanis know about this forum..

If it's home nobody would..but if it's in a public domain anyone can respond or counter..If Elon musk or Donald Trump can be criticized in social media, why not Pakistanis in this forum can be criticized..if they don't want us they can easily restrict or block us..stop making these absurd arguments and make some valid ones..
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nice post CDI
 
Showing aggression (as long as it does not involve abusing others; verbally or physically) on the field is perfectly fine and just a normal part of any professional sport..

However, not shaking hands (if true), if offered, is not in good taste imo
 
Snowflake said:
Hoga. But he doesn’t command the superstar persona on the world stage - at least not anymore.
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Of course he does, ICC T20 player of the decade and a red bull ambassador too, which lets be fair is a pretty lucrative deal. A multinational world wide known brand isnt approaching a player if they are a simple nobody.
 
GudduBadmash said:
Of course he does, ICC T20 player of the decade and a red bull ambassador too, which lets be fair is a pretty lucrative deal. A multinational world wide known brand isnt approaching a player if they are a simple nobody.
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He's not even in the top 5 bowlers in his best format. What superstar? Very good bowler, but please don't tell me that you think Rashid Khan pulls in crowd when he's playing - we all know the answer to that.
 
chakdeindian said:
I also expected this post from you as I know you..if that's hatred, what is this..
www.hindustantimes.com

Pakistan captain Salman Agha ignores handshake, bolts off after Asia Cup PC; India's Suryakumar Yadav stays back to…

India and Pakistan will face off on September 14 in the Asia Cup Group A match in Dubai.
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You are speaking about random persons commenting on shaking hands where Pak official captain avoids sharing plesentaries with Indian captain..and Pak fans are appreciating him for that.. Again in your yardstick that won't fall under hatred..

First of all, there is a difference between hatred and sentiments.. sportsmanship is displayed by the players and sentiments or emotions are displayed by the people who are hurt by the frequent terror mongering from the country whom we are going to play cricket with. With 130 cr population it is not possible to expect everyone to think alike or equivocally..so stop arguing like a baby and focus on cricket..
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You didn't watch the video and posted this post?

Salman shook his hand. In fact he was the one who extended it first. Now what?
 
Snowflake said:
You didn't watch the video and posted this post?

Salman shook his hand. In fact he was the one who extended it first. Now what?
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No..i didn't watch..even if he shook hand, the context of my tweet was not to show him in bad color, it's upto individual players wish to shake hands or not depending on the sentiment..i highlighted a tweet where Pakistani was appreciating him for not shaking hands in the dias..so people with hatred are there on both sides... Since our population is humongous, there is more visibility to these haters who wants to boycott the sports..Indian govt stand is very clear..no bilaterals..no travel of their players to Pakistan..we stand by it .
 
chakdeindian said:
hope you had a good time thinking you won an argument as I didn't reply..but I got busy..here you go..
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Yeah, I am glad I got your attention and still managed to win an argument against a poster who can't even last beyond 20 posts per year. You should thank me for making you active here. :rabada2

chakdeindian said:
The new video emerged where Salman Agha shook his hands..so as per your comments he doesn't have self-respect!?
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Doesn't change my view, if he did, he came across as broadminded, and if he didn't because India boycotted Pakistan in the WCL, then he was right to do so. Even Surya handled it professionally.

chakdeindian said:
Is WCL an ICC event and those who play are currently contracted players of BCCI or PCB? Does that have any impact on team rankings, revenue of respective boards or ICC?
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So you claim to have read countless threads here over the past 10 years, then how did you miss the one where we discussed India boycotting Pakistan in the WCL, with people boasting about it everywhere? Did you even post in that thread, or do you just pop up selectively when it fits your agenda? Can I see some of your posts in that thread? :rabada2

chakdeindian said:
If random people like me makes up the 130 crore population, does the random terrorists and jihadis make up the 30 cr population of the neighbor country..?
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Looks like my sarcasm sailed right over your head, read it again slowly and try to process it. You are not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.

chakdeindian said:
As I said I have read various threads over past 10 years and have seen both sensible and obnoxious comments on either sides..and total Indians who have posted here shouldn't regarding boycott shouldnt have crossed 100, and off which who are pro boycott are miniscule in terms of our total population..even if we consider other social medias (mainly twitter and Instagram) into account the total unique users who commented on pro boycott ,as per whatever data i analysed is not crossing 10k (users not the tweets or comments)..,mostly it's the same set of users who posts multiple tweets or use bots..even if we count the no of comments which are in lakhs is not even 1% of our total population..so just watching us in the lens of social media and generalizing is utter baby stuff..so first grow up and then argue..don't throw garbages here .
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I don't even know what you are blabbering about. Are you shivering while typing, or just clueless about what we were discussing? If this is really your view, then you have quoted the wrong person, you should be quoting Rajdeep, who keeps ranting about how 90% of people in India don't want this match, while I clearly said that once it starts, most of those boycotters will be watching.

If this is the reason you barely post here, I get it. I have seen enough kids like you grow up here, so don't worry about me. :inti
 
chakdeindian said:
No..i didn't watch..even if he shook hand, the context of my tweet was not to show him in bad color, it's upto individual players wish to shake hands or not depending on the sentiment..i highlighted a tweet where Pakistani was appreciating him for not shaking hands in the dias..so people with hatred are there on both sides... Since our population is humongous, there is more visibility to these haters who wants to boycott the sports..Indian govt stand is very clear..no bilaterals..no travel of their players to Pakistan..we stand by it .
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Are you a hater too? Because your post below suggests exactly that. Why the sudden change of tone, trying to act all sporty now? You wrote the bolded part, I replied, you got hurt, kept shifting the goalposts, and now you are hiding behind the boycott talk in your post above. I have tagged you in the other thread. Come there and debate. I am waiting... :inti

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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Are you a hater too? Because your post below suggests exactly that. Why the sudden change of tone, trying to act all sporty now? You wrote the bolded part, I replied, you got hurt, kept shifting the goalposts, and now you are hiding behind the boycott talk in your post above. I have tagged you in the other thread. Come there and debate. I am waiting... :inti

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@chakdeindian u have no self respect after being exposed.......

I would advice just keep your mouth shut and leave this thread
 
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Snowflake said:
He's not even in the top 5 bowlers in his best format. What superstar? Very good bowler, but please don't tell me that you think Rashid Khan pulls in crowd when he's playing - we all know the answer to that.
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The Times has him listed as T20 most wanted man. Clearly if every T20 side scrambles to sign this guy for their team it means something. Need to just admit he's more valuable than anyone we currently have and there should be no shame in that just because he is Afghan or plays for a Minnow
 
I know you are questioning all this but if you were given a choice between Rashid Khan, Imad Wasim, Mohammad Nawaz, Salman Agha, Shadab Khan, Abrar Ahmed there is no way you arent picking RK out of this list and if you do say one of the others on the list then you need to be honest with yourself
 
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