Has the NCA failed to develop talent and is it an unfair advantage for Lahori cricketers?

[ahmedwaqas92]

Perhaps. Not sure. he's always in Lahore though.

Yup he now lives in Lahore but I guess he moved to the city because it was closer to NCA and PCB headquarters. Can someone confirm this, when he moved I mean ???

 

[ZaynM]

Will reply later to rest.

 

[Slog]

Yes. You got me there. I am salty because i have seen some from karachi always peddling this regionalism BS and it really grinds my gears. Very annoying.

And btw i can see that you completely missed the points and arguments presented in the article and molded the statements. Took them out of context to make them look favourable in your argument. This is pathetic. Anyone who has a brain albeit not a racist one would get what is being talked about. You are free to dig your head in the sand and peddle lies freely.

ahh

grow up and respond to facts rather than throwing your toys out of the pram.

All is stated in those posts were inconvenient facts to burst your bubble of delusion

calling me a racist wont change facts

 

[Hawkeye]

Yup he now lives in Lahore but I guess he moved to the city because it was closer to NCA and PCB headquarters. Can someone confirm this, when he moved I mean ???

So that again shows he's at an advantage due to being closer to Lahore/NCA.

 

[Slog]

) ) ) OMG that's so epic and true description. ) )

he forgot the King Salman Butt. Lahore's gift

 

[Hawkeye]

Interest has nothing to do with cricket academies firstly. These two things are not perfectly correlated. Interest is everywhere in Pakistan when it comes to cricket. Its the only major sport we are somewhat good at an international level.

There is not a massive gap. But there is a gap. Many of the players you named such as imran khan jnr might not even play international cricket again. Who can forget that cut shot lover chinese copy of amla opener we had in england series iirc. Level of ineptness.

Hain?

LOL. Imran Khan snr. is a MAINSTAY of your Test team. Without him what you'd be doing in UAE? Bowl with Aizaz Cheema? )

And another product of NCA i.e. Wahab. Why did we get a spraygun instead of another Wasim? Or even half of Wasim?

Where is Zia ul Haq from? He's always at the NCA, yet he's a rubbish. Compare him to someone like Taj Wali of Peshawar who has access to NOTHING.

Yet FAAAR superior. Or even Mir Hamza.

 

[Slog]

Yup he now lives in Lahore but I guess he moved to the city because it was closer to NCA and PCB headquarters. Can someone confirm this, when he moved I mean ???

he prolly has a house there and lives there during season. Fsb and Lhr are close enough to keep commuting between 2 and not have to uproot from one location

Afridi moved to Lhr for NCA too last year but now he might move back

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

So that again shows he's at an advantage due to being closer to Lahore/NCA.

Yes exactly !! Any established cricketer would naturally make the move to Lahore because it gives him/her an advantage to use the facilities and other perks of the NCA. Hafeez, no matter how much he lacks in ability, is one bloke who has a solid work ethic and genuinely works on his problems. This facet can be clearly noted from his improvement in batting over the last two years.

What saddening is that Lahore chaps should out gun each and every player from domestics since a they are literally having these facilities since they start playing cricket form a very young age but most often than not these chaps are a league below the rest of the cricketers coming through other provinces.

 

[Hawkeye]

he forgot the King Salman Butt. Lahore's gift

Ahmed Shehzad
Salman Butt
Wahab Riaz
Umar Akmal
Kamran Akmal
Imran Farhat

The youngsta gangster beauties of Model Town.

 

[Slog]

Ahmed Shehzad
Salman Butt
Wahab Riaz
Umar Akmal
Kamran Akmal
Imran Farhat

The youngsta gangster beauties of Model Town.

hopefully Babar Azam can redeem that are

 

[Hawkeye]

hopefully Babar Azam can redeem that are

He's the only hope of wiping off that dhabbbaaa from model town cricket club.

 

[MABA]

Staying "fit" should not be dependent on NCA. Heck there is a gym at every corner in Pakistan now, especially in the big cities.

 

[Mamoon]

Lahore has too much talent.

Yes, too much talent in producing hacks. Most of the batting talent comes from Karachi.

 

[Ummii]

We always fight domestically lol thats the reason we are getting behind thats the reason we dont have any right to discuss about team grouping etc cuz even Bangla is getting better and still we are doing khi vs lhr..simply we deserve it

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[The Last Of The Stars]

Lahore gave us many big cricketers. Even shehzad and akmal are better than the crap other cities notably the city in question karachi is producing. We all know the worth of latifs and nauman anwars.


There is no doubt that they are tilted towards punjab. Everything in Pakistan is. Why? Because Punjab is the most populated province in Pakistan. Common sense to open an academy in punjab before any other provinces. Also, with regards to finances. Maybe PCB doesnt feels the need.

Not taking anything away from Punjab, but the PCB should invest equally, regardless of the population size.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Yes, too much talent in producing hacks. Most of the batting talent comes from Karachi.

You serious? Karachi produces the worst kind of players. Only Shafiq is a proper batsman and Im from Karachi

 

[Abdullah719]

You serious? Karachi produces the worst kind of players. Only Shafiq is a proper batsman and Im from Karachi

What about Sir ? And the legendary Khalid ?

OK you win.

 

[Syed1]

You serious? Karachi produces the worst kind of players. Only Shafiq is a proper batsman and Im from Karachi

Some good youngsters coming through from Karachi though.

Saud Shakeel springs to mind..

 

[Syed1]

We need a NCA level academy in the biggest 8 cities of Pakistan.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Some good youngsters coming through from Karachi though.

Saud Shakeel springs to mind..

True

 

[Sarfarazian92]

We need a NCA level academy in the biggest 8 cities of Pakistan.

That's wishful thinking.

But an NCA level academy is surely needed in a city as big as Karachi. It will allow players from interior Sindh and even Balochistan to take advantage of better coaches and better facilities.

 

[Abdullah719]

That's wishful thinking.

But an NCA level academy is surely needed in a city as big as Karachi. It will allow players from interior Sindh and even Balochistan to take advantage of better coaches and better facilities.

Can't believe that there isn't one already, tbh. So sad.

 

[Hasan123]

We need a NCA level academy in the biggest 8 cities of Pakistan.

Yes we should with upto date facilities and top quality coaches but this is a dream for us.

 

[Slog]

This is what Sharjeel Khan had to say in the interview:

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I have long felt that the NCA has not been very successful in its almost 15 year history in really developing talent and taking it to the next level. There are some players like Umar Amin who have been poster boys for NCA in the sense that it 'perfected' their technical game but the results are not there eventough many youngsters spend a lot of time there. I remember in the 2004 onwards period we would hear every youngster talking about how much they are learning there (like Mansoor Amjad, Anwar Ali, Bhatti, Usman Salahuddin etc etc) but none of them have gone onto the next level. Is it a case of overcoaching?

However atleast it has first class gym and training facillities as well as qualified trainers so you would expect 100% fitness from the likes of Nasir Jamshed, Shehzad, Akmal etc who visit it regularly. However this is not the case. But still these Lahori boys get access to these faciltiies that no one else get

Both Younis Khan and Afridi have regularly talked about the need for a PCB Academy in Karachi rather making do with the limited Moin Khan or Rashid Latif academies in the biggest city in the country.

So the thread topic is 2 fold:

1) Has the NCA failed to hone top young talents and serve as a finishing school? Honestly it has been around long enough and we should be able to say that, 'ok this superstar was a product of NCA.' But that is not the case.

2) Is it unfair to non Lahore based cricketers that they do not have access to such a facility in the off season? Thus they shouldn't be held to the same standards as the Lahore based cricketers? As Sharjeel says that if anything atleast these Lahore cricketers should be super fit.

To add to this

What in the world do the fitness coaches do there?!?!

 

[Markhor]

NCA you are a disgrace. How can Umar Akmal be passed fit only to fail just weeks later in England ?

Are NCA using the same fitness testing procedures as the national team is using in England, and if not - why ?

I know I mock PCB for its love of inquiries and committees but one is actually needed here. If ever there was an example of the unprofessionalism of Pakistan's cricketing structure.

 

[Slog]

NCA you are a disgrace. How can Umar Akmal be passed fit only to fail just weeks later in England ?

Are NCA using the same fitness testing procedures as the national team is using in England, and if not - why ?

I know I mock PCB for its love of inquiries and committees but one is actually needed here. If ever there was an example of the unprofessionalism of Pakistan's cricketing structure.

I think its more of a case of unprofessional-ism of selectors who announce teams prematurely and then have to stick with that decision

Famously (as per Wasim Akram and Shoaib Akhtar), the additional players for the Aus ODI series were announced first and then their fitness tests were taken. And Wasim was baffled when he saw this and asked them 'if you're already confirmed for the tour, why the fitness tests now?'

I am forgetting the exact players - but wouldnt be surprised if Akmal jr was part of this group

They recalled the whole story on the PTV Sports show at the end of the 3rd Test vs Aus in January

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

I think its more of a case of unprofessional-ism of selectors who announce teams prematurely and then have to stick with that decision

Famously (as per Wasim Akram and Shoaib Akhtar), the additional players for the Aus ODI series were announced first and then their fitness tests were taken. And Wasim was baffled when he saw this and asked them 'if you're already confirmed for the tour, why the fitness tests now?'

I am forgetting the exact players - but wouldnt be surprised if Akmal jr was part of this group

They recalled the whole story on the PTV Sports show at the end of the 3rd Test vs Aus in January

Akmal was part of that group along with Junaid Khan and two more blokes (if my memory serves me right).........I remember the reaction Akram's face though - Priceless....

 

[Slog]

Akmal was part of that group along with Junaid Khan and two more blokes (if my memory serves me right).........I remember the reaction Akram's face though - Priceless....

it was a pretty funny story though. Akhtar has a funny way of narrating incidents