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Hashim Amla vs Rahul Dravid - Who would you take in Tests?

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2 brilliant test match players, with good records in most conditions. Just go about there business and score runs albeit in contrasting ways.

Who would you take?

Discuss....
 
Dravid all day atm.

Maybe Amla if a plays he few more years and piles on the runs.
 
dravid got his name for scoring runs against second string aussie bowling attack in that steve waugh's last test series.

no mcgrath,no warne, over-the-hill-gillespie and returning-from-injury-lee

I am a fan of none of them but amla is a better and more versatile player

Regards
 
Dravid, he's an ATG test batsman. Amla isn't quite there yet, and going by current form I doubt he ever will
 
dravid got his name for scoring runs against second string aussie bowling attack in that steve waugh's last test series.

no mcgrath,no warne, over-the-hill-gillespie and returning-from-injury-lee

I am a fan of none of them but amla is a better and more versatile player

Regards


Lol you might rile some Indian supporters up here . :akhtar
 
Dravid was a great batsman, but in terms of entertainment Amla is miles ahead of him. I'd always choose to watch Amla over Dravid if given a chance.
 
Only on Pakpassion will you find people claiming Amla is a better test batsman than Rahul Dravid.
 
I understand the versatile part but the Indian fans may not agree that Amla is the better player.

You won't find many non Pakistanis arguing Amla is a better test batsman than Rahul Dravid who is one of the greatest test cricketers of all time.
 
I rate Amla very highly in tests (best of the present generation ahead of guys like Cook, AB) and I have always feared him more than AB whenever we played South Africa because of his Dravid like temperament and endurance.

But I have been disappointed with him over the past year or so. He has had a very early decline and has been declining ever since he became 32, struggling to keep up his previous lofty standards. He was on course to become an ATG but this early decline has done a bit of damage to his reputation. I hope he finds his mojo back though. It's a bit surprising because he isn't totally dependent on hand eye coordination unlike players like Sehwag who generally deteriorate at this age.

Dravid was effective till the penultimate tour of his career. Got man of the series in trying and testing conditions and match situations when India were getting demolished in England in 2011. He was the only guy who put up the last resistance like the great wall he was known to be. He struggled with the pace in Australia in his last tour and being the ever gentleman he is, retired as soon as he found out that he became too old to cope up with the pace and was a liability for the team without asking for a farewell series, which he was very much entitled to do so imo. The moment he retired, he decline the national team offer and became the coach of the Indian U19 team and Indian A teams and has been instrumental in guiding the Indian youngsters and making them match ready when they enter the international circuit. His contribution to Indian cricket has been immense pre and post his retirement and something that cannot be measured. I would take Dravid at this point of time.
 
Extremely close to be honest, but my bias makes me tilt towards Dravid for obvious reasons.
 
Rahul Dravid is a level above Amla tbh. Says a lot about Dravid rather than downplaying Amla's achievements.
 
Amla is a better ODI bat but in tests Rahul Dravid of 2012 is ahead of Amla in Peak,

Overall Rahul..... Daylight......light years.... Amla (tests only)
 
Dravid comfortably sits among the pantheon of ATGs and Amla is still far off IMO. As much as I think Amla is better than AB in tests, I would never trust him when the pressure is on.

There are a million points I could give in favor of why I think all that but most are pretty obvious.

One thing off-topic I would like to add: I think Amla is over-hyped a touch among the cricket community - has probably been dropped 124,871,63 times in tests, hardly ever performs in knockout matches and ofcourse goes unnoticed because of the 'nice guy' image.
 
Amla is not close to Dravid.
Dravid in tests was something special, team can rely on player like Dravid any day.
 
I rate Amla very highly in tests (best of the present generation ahead of guys like Cook, AB) and I have always feared him more than AB whenever we played South Africa because of his Dravid like temperament and endurance.

But I have been disappointed with him over the past year or so. He has had a very early decline and has been declining ever since he became 32, struggling to keep up his previous lofty standards. He was on course to become an ATG but this early decline has done a bit of damage to his reputation. I hope he finds his mojo back though. It's a bit surprising because he isn't totally dependent on hand eye coordination unlike players like Sehwag who generally deteriorate at this age.

Dravid was effective till the penultimate tour of his career. Got man of the series in trying and testing conditions and match situations when India were getting demolished in England in 2011. He was the only guy who put up the last resistance like the great wall he was known to be. He struggled with the pace in Australia in his last tour and being the ever gentleman he is, retired as soon as he found out that he became too old to cope up with the pace and was a liability for the team without asking for a farewell series, which he was very much entitled to do so imo. The moment he retired, he decline the national team offer and became the coach of the Indian U19 team and Indian A teams and has been instrumental in guiding the Indian youngsters and making them match ready when they enter the international circuit. His contribution to Indian cricket has been immense pre and post his retirement and something that cannot be measured. I would take Dravid at this point of time.

Not quite true.

Dravid was very inconsistent for a good four year period in his career between 2007-2010 failing in a number of tough tours/series. Besides he wasn't really a great performer against ATG bowling.

But Dravid is ahead for me as of now. After 100 odd tests Dravid was almost averaging 60, and that too having faced superior bowlers to Amla which affected his average.

Amla is struggling to average 50.
 
Dravid but just because he had a longer career. Amla on the other hand has started declining at 32. Overall, Amla has performed better than Dravid against stronger bowling attacks.
 
Dravid but just because he had a longer career. Amla on the other hand has started declining at 32. Overall, Amla has performed better than Dravid against stronger bowling attacks.

Better bowlers? Dravid batted against Murali, Warne, Mcgrath, Pollock, Ntini, Donald, Steyn, Walsh, Akram, Akhtar and Waqar. Kindly name who're better bowlers now?
 
This is a tough one. I have great respect for Dravid the test batsman and Dravid the man, as well. They are very similar characters as well, classy men who would never make a fool of themselves on the field or off it.

Amla does have the better numbers and an ability to change gears and take the initiative that 'The Wall' lacked. When comparing their records in each other's home countries, Amla is clearly superior.

However, these comparisons between retired players and players who are still active can go either way. If Amla can prove that 2015 and the latter half of 2016 was simply an aberration and normal service of him bossing the test arena resumes for at leasr another couple of years, he'll jump past Dravid, and dare I say, even Tendulker. If 'The Might #' continues deteriorating then he'll slide down the hierarchy. Or he can just have another steady two or three years and keep his position.

As for his position, I think his achievements up until now put him ahead the likes of Dravid, Sanga and Younis. He has virtually no weaknesses, has enjoyed nearly five years as the best batsman in the world, played some outstanding innings and unlike this Asian trio, has barely played against the minnows and neither has he enjoyed playing his home games on the flatter pitches of Asia.

Better bowlers? Dravid batted against Murali, Warne, Mcgrath, Pollock, Ntini, Donald, Steyn, Walsh, Akram, Akhtar and Waqar. Kindly name who're better bowlers now?

Just playing against them means little. Dravid barely averages 40 in Australia despite getting to play a series against their second string attack. Like Younis, he's failed in South Africa too.
 
All formats combined, Amla is clearly superior, obviously.
 
Hard to find a single ground where Amla scores over Dravid, both statistically and otherwise.

People who focus on how batsmen ''look'' while batting and want ''entertaining batting'' are the same types who would underrate Azhar Ali in tests, since he doesn't ''look good''. They are probably better off watching tailunts like Gayle and Umar Akmal.

Like someone said, Amla would need to hit a monstrous peak at this stage of his career to be comparable.
 
Hard to find a single ground where Amla scores over Dravid, both statistically and otherwise.

People who focus on how batsmen ''look'' while batting and want ''entertaining batting'' are the same types who would underrate Azhar Ali in tests, since he doesn't ''look good''. They are probably better off watching tailunts like Gayle and Umar Akmal.

Like someone said, Amla would need to hit a monstrous peak at this stage of his career to be comparable.

Any ground in SA
 
Any ground in SA

I don't mean the word 'ground' literally but ground as in object of comparison between players.

I'm sure you don't want to go around comparing their averages across all cricket grounds in the world. There are easier metrics to look at to establish the truth.
 
Dravid is probably the best batsman i have seen against swing bowling, put on an exhibition against swing so many times. A clutch player too. Amla may have an edge on a True wicket as he scores big. But on a dodgy surface, under pressure cooker situation i would go with Dravid. Dravid scores when it matters.
 
What a joke!! Dravid is way ahead. Tremendously good batsman. I would take him over a lot of modern day greats let alone amla.

Cant believe some people are saying Amla.
 
I don't mean the word 'ground' literally but ground as in object of comparison between players.

I'm sure you don't want to go around comparing their averages across all cricket grounds in the world. There are easier metrics to look at to establish the truth.

It was a pun intended.
 
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