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Azhar Mahmood has mentioned previously that Hasan is a clean hitter, and has said he can be developed into someone who regularly contributes runs down the order.

We saw evidence of that today, with his important contribution of 29 (25). He was clearing the boundary with ease against the Sri Lankan bowlers, including Herath.

Obviously it is great to see most of Pakistan's bowlers being component with the bat (Amir, Shadab, Yasir etc).

So how good do you think his batting is/could be? Can Hasan Ali be developed into a bowling all-rounder, or is it better for him to focus on his bowling for now?
 
Before breaking into the scene, people suggested he was an all rounders but we were so mesmerized by his bowling abilities that we completely ignored and forgot abouthis batting.
 
Saw him play a useful cameo in Dominica too, scoring quick runs to set up a declaration.

Good option to have lower down the order, definitely shouldn't neglect his batting as he has some potential.
 
He should keep working on his batting. He seems to have the ability to hit big. Want to see him work on his defensive game.
 
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He should concentrate on his bowling.

He needs not become a bowling all rounder. If he can hit cleanly , that is enough.
 
He may have to play an important role today. An innings like yesterday would come in very handy if he is needed to bat today.
 
Has a habit of clearing the boundary for fun, which can only be good for PCT.

Would love for him to be sent up the order at some point as a pinch-hitter, perhaps in the t20s, to test out his batting as it could prove to be a real asset.
 
Playing for Islamabad in the National T20 Cup.

Scored 35 off 20 balls with three sixes to lift his team's total vs Peshawar.
 
He seems to have good potential with the bat but has the mindset of a slogger. He can be quite useful with the bat if he starts to think like a batsman.

He doesn't need to desert his ability to go for big shots, but he doesn't have to tee off every delivery.
 
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The 3 runs he scored in that T-20 game vs Sri Lanka where Shadab hit that 6 went completely under the radar, it was priceless. Having someone who comes lower down the order and can hit big from ball 1 is a big bonus.
 
Mamoon said:
He seems to have good potential with the bat but has the mindset of a slogger. He can be quite useful with the bat if he starts to think like a batsman.

He doesn't need to desert his ability to go for big shots, but he doesn't have to tee off every delivery.
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Agree with you he does have good potential with the bat. Just needs to remove that Afridi mindset.
 
Truly has potential, can be a great slogger down the end same thing with Amir who has showcased his ability multiple times.

Even our Lower Order batting is looking better than when we had the likes of Irfan in the lower order.
 
This is what you need in a team that has Babar, Malik and Sarfaraz. Leave it to the real men at the end to get you those valuable extra runs
 
I guess he should concentrate on his bowling and batting should be a bonus. It is good that he is able to get some big hits going but it should not be his focus. Pakistan have enough batting and all-rounders in the X1.
 
He's a talented slogger, aka Riaz or Gul. Wouldn't be worth him focusing on batting too much. There's a big gap between him and Shadab and Amir. Especially Amir kind of sad he hasn't really pushed on as a batsman, yeah he had a really good CT innings, but in general his batting seems a bit underwhelming for someone of his experience and ability now. Though realise probably given he's come back from a long ban he wants to just focus on bowling.
 
He Needs to focus on bowling mainly , hitting a few boundaries on and off are more than enough from pak 's perspective .Fast Bowlers usually lose their efficacy when they try to go to irfan Pathan 's way .
 
Godhelpma said:
He Needs to focus on bowling mainly , hitting a few boundaries on and off are more than enough from pak 's perspective .Fast Bowlers usually lose their efficacy when they try to go to irfan Pathan 's way .
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I don't understand how, batting isn't too hard, he's been bowling all his life and it's natural to him, he just needs to have more slogging shots rather than 2-3 and he can provide us with a quick 20-30 runs all the time.
 
Godhelpma said:
He Needs to focus on bowling mainly , hitting a few boundaries on and off are more than enough from pak 's perspective .Fast Bowlers usually lose their efficacy when they try to go to irfan Pathan 's way .
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I don't understand that argument. If I try to learn how to eat with a knife and fork for a couple of days, I don't suddenly forget how to eat with my hands do I?
 
aloo paratha said:
I don't understand that argument. If I try to learn how to eat with a knife and fork for a couple of days, I don't suddenly forget how to eat with my hands do I?
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:)))

That is brilliant.
 
aloo paratha said:
I don't understand that argument. If I try to learn how to eat with a knife and fork for a couple of days, I don't suddenly forget how to eat with my hands do I?
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Exactly, in cases like Irfan Pathan, he may have simply regressed as a bowler because batsmen got better or he himself worsened, I doubt his focus on batting is to blame
 
He can hit 6s easily off fast bowlers.

Pandya needs to watch and learn from the master Hasan on hitting fast bowlers :hasanali :shh
 
He's a pretty impressive batsman actually.

He has a good technique and is a very clean hitter. Can hit off both pace and spin.

He'll be batting higher up the order in a couple of years when he is considered one of the seniors in his team.

He's the kind who likes batting. Will be classified as all-rounder soon.
 
He's got a good eye and the good thing is that he looks to hit straight.

Definitely not a mug with the bat.
 
Seems like the best player in the X1 today. Also shows how flat this wicket is. Pakistan top order would be kicking themselves.
 
Someone should think of using Hasan as a pinch-hitter. He is a lethally clean hitter and a very strong man, can score really fast.
 
I see real batting potential in Shadab, but Hassan is more of a bowler who can slog, and on his day (like today) do some real damage.
A better version of Sohail Khan or Umar Gul with the bat
 
God gifted all around. Oozing with natural ability. MashaAllah.

That six he flicked was a ridiculous shot. Unbelievable timing and power.
 
Looks like a good lower order player. Him and Shadab need to bat ahead of Sarfaraz in the current team to be honest.
 
What a knock! Fearless batting much like his bowling.

Best knock in an ODI from a lower order Pak batsmen I've ever seen.
 
I have written plenty times that he is too short to be a specialist bowler in Tests, but has the batting potential to be a bowling all-rounder.

Third quick in Asia, fourth quick elsewhere.

Similarly, Yasir Shah averaged 50 with the ball in Tests in Australia, England and New Zealand.

In the England Tests in May and the South Africa Tests in December, the pitches will be greentops in which Yasir Shah would practically be a Specialist batsman.

So my lower order would be:


6. Sarfraz Ahmed (c/wk)
7. Shadab Khan
8. Hasan Ali (fourth seamer)
9. Mohammad Amir
10. Wahab Riaz (Mohammad Asif on a greentop)
11. Mohammad Abbas
 
At least he showed some intent. It is much easier to come in without any pressure when the ball is not doing much. Some good hotting by the boy means he can be a genuine all rounder one day. Most great bowling all rounders start batting in the tail. Didn't know that Shadab was a good late order batsman as well. We'll have a long batting line up if the top three start pulling their weight.
 
PakLFC said:
At least he showed some intent. It is much easier to come in without any pressure when the ball is not doing much. Some good hotting by the boy means he can be a genuine all rounder one day. Most great bowling all rounders start batting in the tail. Didn't know that Shadab was a good late order batsman as well. We'll have a long batting line up if the top three start pulling their weight.
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I am pretty certain that Wahab Riaz in the same situation would have thrown his wicket away playing an ugly slog.
 
That flick off the spinner and the six off Southee were just awesome shots. Gets his hands so quickly through the ball.
 
Pakistan cricket is full of nepotism. Hassan ali such a quality i don't know whether he deserves to be in this trash team.
 
Should work on his defence a bit more and then he can play at 7 or sent up when runs are needed quickly.
 
Hassan should concentrate on bowling , the way he is striking with bat that is good enough.

The top order has to score runs , cannot expect everything from bowlers.
 
Junaids said:
I have written plenty times that he is too short to be a specialist bowler in Tests, but has the batting potential to be a bowling all-rounder.

Third quick in Asia, fourth quick elsewhere.

Similarly, Yasir Shah averaged 50 with the ball in Tests in Australia, England and New Zealand.

In the England Tests in May and the South Africa Tests in December, the pitches will be greentops in which Yasir Shah would practically be a Specialist batsman.

So my lower order would be:


6. Sarfraz Ahmed (c/wk)
7. Shadab Khan
8. Hasan Ali (fourth seamer)
9. Mohammad Amir
10. Wahab Riaz (Mohammad Asif on a greentop)
11. Mohammad Abbas
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Wahab? Seriously? The guy has no control over his bowling. He is not our version of Mitchell Johnson and never will be. He is an embarrassment and opponents do not fear his pace.
 
hk031992 said:
Wahab? Seriously? The guy has no control over his bowling. He is not our version of Mitchell Johnson and never will be. He is an embarrassment and opponents do not fear his pace.
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As I wrote at the time, in the Australia v Pakistan Test series twelve months ago Wahab Riaz and Mitchell Starc returned almost identical bowling figures.

And Australian conditions strongly resemble South African ones.

There are two types of pitch in South Africa.

At the sea level venues (Cape Town, Durban and Port Elizabeth) usually green pitches are used, on which Mohammad Asif, like Vern Philander yesterday, is the only viable bowler. The only viable Pakistan bowler for those conditions.

At high altitude on the High Veldt at Johannesburg and Centurion, bounce replaces seam, and Pakistan needs a bowler who can hit 150K. Which means Wahab Riaz or bust.
 
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now he will be dismissed for a single digit score next time.
 
This guy will get better with the bat as he is more than useful.

A clean striker of the ball and someone with a very good eye.
 
Already better than Imam, Azhar, Hafeez, Malik, Sarfaraz and Babar (when not facing SL/WI)
 
Shadab , faheem , Hassan , all are capable with bat.

Pakistan need middle order to fire .
 
Junaids said:
I have written plenty times that he is too short to be a specialist bowler in Tests, but has the batting potential to be a bowling all-rounder.

Third quick in Asia, fourth quick elsewhere.

Similarly, Yasir Shah averaged 50 with the ball in Tests in Australia, England and New Zealand.

In the England Tests in May and the South Africa Tests in December, the pitches will be greentops in which Yasir Shah would practically be a Specialist batsman.

So my lower order would be:


6. Sarfraz Ahmed (c/wk)
7. Shadab Khan
8. Hasan Ali (fourth seamer)
9. Mohammad Amir
10. Wahab Riaz (Mohammad Asif on a greentop)
11. Mohammad Abbas
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You realize nobody takes your 'too short' argument seriously anymore right? 😂
 
How important was that six off Rashid, in the context of a tricky chase?

Clutch gene.
 
Always had potential just needs to take his batting more seriously. At the moment he just slogs everything. If he starts thinking a bit more like a bat he will contribute more ala Shadab Khan.
 
That six turned the match around as far as my opinion is concerned. His six brought the equation down to 10 from 8 and the look on Rashid's face said it all. He knew Afg cant win it now.
 
He just needs to know which balls are there to be defended and which ones are there to be hit. Once he learns that, his average will be around 17-18 in ODIs.
 
Much better from him today, scored some vital runs.
 
He is a good slogger , and should remain so. No need to try and dig it in.

If he keeps slogging , he would get 20 odd runs that is pretty good.
 
Justcrazy said:
He is a good slogger , and should remain so. No need to try and dig it in.

If he keeps slogging , he would get 20 odd runs that is pretty good.
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If only he slogged using his brain, have seen him often throw it away where he shouldn't have hitting out against every single delivery, we do not need Afridi type sloggers.
 
I think he can average 15-17 in tests if he works on his batting. A 30-40 from him once in a while could come in handy.
 
The only thing I would like to say is that :


" He looked determined Yesterday "


For starters that's encouraging.


He knows that with Abass coming in next match he has competition with other pacers. If Shaheen rocks with the ball than it will be competion btw him and amir for a place in playing eleven and runs with the bat matter alot in Mickey's book wrt tail.
 
He should keep working on his batting, only in Pakistan do we allow our players to get away with a bowler not improving on their batting if they show signs of ability and vice versa. He is capable of averaging 22/23 in tests and ODIs.
 
did starc become batsman after 96 in india on spin friendly wicket
did jason gillespie become allrounder after 200
did bret lee become allrounder after some amazing knocks
did wasim akram ever get chance to bat up he order after 250
and so on

just saying
 
Brilliant. Out scored all our batsmen and was saving Sarfraz from the bowlers as well. Nice presence of mind from Hasan. :14:
 
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