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So after a few discussions with people involved in the PSL and the series against South Africa, it seems that the number of positive tests were much higher than what is being revealed.

According to a few people who I have spoken with, there were positive tests during the series versus South Africa but they were not disclosed.

In addition, what is being stated is that the number of positive tests during PSL6 was much more than 7. A few names that I have heard who tested positive but their names weren't revealed are Hassan Ali, Hussain Talat, Lewis Gregory and Haris Rauf.

Could the numbers have been downplayed? Was the situation actually worse than what is being revealed? Would a tournament be cancelled in its entirety just for 7 positive tests?
 
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I'd imagine that it's more than likely that the number of positive cases was understated. It isn't in the PCB's interest to disclose the actual number of cases.

The fact that it was some of the franchises that pushed for the postponement also indicates that the situation was worse than reported.
 
Well if its true then you're moving from just plain old fashioned incompetence to deliberately and criminally covering facts in a potentially life threatening situation that could wreak havoc.

In short people can be arrested and people/ institutions sued.

I would be utterly shocked if this is the case.
 
In India if something like this happened, not only the BCCI and the franchises would handle this internally, they will also maintain a united front in public. But in Pakistan every Tom Dick Harry is settling personal scores with the PCB and the PSL franchise owners in deep badniyati after being repeatedly reminded to follow the bio secure rules are now shamelessly, dishonestly disowning all personal responsibility and passing the buck to the PCB and even publically mocking how the PCB held this tournament.

The Covid outbreak is perhaps not as damaging to the PSL and Pakistan Cricket as compared to the manner in which some journalists, ex cricketers and franchise owners are washing their dirty linen in public.

If anything the PCB seriously needs to look for new Franchise owners to remind them that they are replaceable and they cannot get away with dictating to the PCB and then pretending innocence that they had no responsibility in fiasco, when you enter a business relationship with someone, if you can share the good times, you should be able to share the bad times as well
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lahore Qalandars COO Sameen Rana "When we took part in PSL5 play-offs, there were 15 positive COVID-19 cases. This wasn't made public, but the fact is that PCB should have reviewed the situation. However their attitude was Allah will take care of everything" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSLPostponed?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSLPostponed</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1368271969259581443?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2021</a></blockquote>
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If above news is true then now every country think twice before touring to Pakistan . Only PCB to blame here , how careless Cricket board is?
 
Is this seriously true? Hiding positive cases? If this is true than its really poor from pcb.
 
The franchises need to take part of the blame as well instead of just dumping it all on the PCB.
 
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The franchises need to take part of the blame as well instead of just dumping it all on the PCB.
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They don't realize that their behaviour and conduct is making things worse for the country and the PCB which now needs to work on how to quickly do damage control. I would personally not want to continue a business relationship with someone who throws me to the dogs at the first sign of difficulty
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lahore Qalandars COO Sameen Rana "When we took part in PSL5 play-offs, there were 15 positive COVID-19 cases. This wasn't made public, but the fact is that PCB should have reviewed the situation. However their attitude was Allah will take care of everything" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSLPostponed?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSLPostponed</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1368271969259581443?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2021</a></blockquote>
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if this is true, than Waseem Khan needs to be fired now. How could you jeopordise the whole PSL like this?

Unless HBL doesn;t give danda to these PSL officials, nothing is going to happen.
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lahore Qalandars COO Sameen Rana "When we took part in PSL5 play-offs, there were 15 positive COVID-19 cases. This wasn't made public, but the fact is that PCB should have reviewed the situation. However their attitude was Allah will take care of everything" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSLPostponed?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSLPostponed</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1368271969259581443?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2021</a></blockquote>
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What in the actual hell?!!
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lahore Qalandars COO Sameen Rana "When we took part in PSL5 play-offs, there were 15 positive COVID-19 cases. This wasn't made public, but the fact is that PCB should have reviewed the situation. However their attitude was Allah will take care of everything" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSLPostponed?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSLPostponed</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1368271969259581443?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2021</a></blockquote>
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**, as we have seen with the likes of Javed Afridi, Salman Iqbal, these Franchises most definitely ignored PCB warnings about not respecting and taking the bio secure bubble seriously and now in order to save face and fool a naive gullible public are aiming to scapegoat the PCB.
 
The seriousness of this isn’t being understood by some of our fans. Some of them think this is a minor thing, the stories coming out are showing PCB and these franchises have no clue on how to run a bio bubble . It’s a serious damage to our reputation.
 
Savak said:
In India if something like this happened, not only the BCCI and the franchises would handle this internally, they will also maintain a united front in public. But in Pakistan every Tom Dick Harry is settling personal scores with the PCB and the PSL franchise owners in deep badniyati after being repeatedly reminded to follow the bio secure rules are now shamelessly, dishonestly disowning all personal responsibility and passing the buck to the PCB and even publically mocking how the PCB held this tournament.

The Covid outbreak is perhaps not as damaging to the PSL and Pakistan Cricket as compared to the manner in which some journalists, ex cricketers and franchise owners are washing their dirty linen in public.

If anything the PCB seriously needs to look for new Franchise owners to remind them that they are replaceable and they cannot get away with dictating to the PCB and then pretending innocence that they had no responsibility in fiasco, when you enter a business relationship with someone, if you can share the good times, you should be able to share the bad times as well
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If this fiasco happened in India, I can guarantee our 24hrs news media will go ballistic and go after BCCI vehemently, and lots of point scoring. Cricket, after all, is run and managed by politicians at the end in India as well. But agree with franchise owners and BCCI showing a united public front.
But, CSK has cases before start of the IPL. I must say it was managed well and did not impact the tournament.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
If this fiasco happened in India, I can guarantee our 24hrs news media will go ballistic and go after BCCI vehemently, and lots of point scoring. Cricket, after all, is run and managed by politicians at the end in India as well. But agree with franchise owners and BCCI showing a united public front.
But, CSK has cases before start of the IPL. I must say it was managed well and did not impact the tournament.
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With the commercial interests involved nobody relevant in India goes after BCCI these days.
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lahore Qalandars COO Sameen Rana "When we took part in PSL5 play-offs, there were 15 positive COVID-19 cases. This wasn't made public, but the fact is that PCB should have reviewed the situation. However their attitude was Allah will take care of everything" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSLPostponed?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSLPostponed</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1368271969259581443?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Didn't Lahore field a covid positive Haris Rauf because they could? How ignorant are these people.

PCB is also to blame but Lahore and Peshawar and even Karachi are huge culprits for not following protocols. Or in Lahore's case knowingly fielding a covid positive player.
 
RickyG said:
Didn't Lahore field a covid positive Haris Rauf because they could? How ignorant are these people.

PCB is also to blame but Lahore and Peshawar and even Karachi are huge culprits for not following protocols. Or in Lahore's case knowingly fielding a covid positive player.
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Shouldn't they be criminally prosecuted for suppressing the reports and playing a positive player?
 
Numbers could have been higher than this if almost all members of Pakistan team weren't already carrying antibodies due to past infections.

PCB lucked out in dodging this fiascos as long as they did. Their lack of seriousness regarding Covid was apparent. But the chickens finally came home to roost, I guess.
 
Blaming PCB is easy. These cricketers and franchise owners know the risks and are not kids. PCB can't micromanage everything. Also zeroism with Covid doesn't work. You can't simply avoid it. Few positive cases happen in tournaments but what is shocking no body learnt a lesson and there was a cover up from everyone
 
Gullycricket said:
Blaming PCB is easy. These cricketers and franchise owners know the risks and are not kids. PCB can't micromanage everything. Also zeroism with Covid doesn't work. You can't simply avoid it. Few positive cases happen in tournaments but what is shocking no body learnt a lesson and there was a cover up from everyone
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PCB is the enforcer, isn't it as the organiser here? In parlance with business practices, was there an audit conducted by PCB? The blame lies with Franchisee but the onus lies on PCB.
 
Heard the hotel players r staying had a marriage ceremony going in it.....How can PCB allow this.....
I mean a marriage ceremony in a biosecure bubble involving ppl from outside the bubble
 
If I would have been a CEO of any cricket board.....from Bangladesh to Nepal.....I would actually think twice now to have my players play or involve in any cricket activity in Pakistan.....

It is as embarrassing as the fielding of Agha Salman and other players in PSL
 
If PCB still don't show any strictness rigidness now then the franchisee owners will again do something silly and force PCB to approve their wills.....if it's meaning taking away the franchise or banning the owner ....so be it
 
According to a player public were using the gym area at the hotel also.

This is such basic stuff.
 
Many players attended Azhar Mahmood saheb's birthday bash.......including Babar....now Hasan Ali and Talat 's report came positive......wah Azhar Mahmood wah.....Wah PCB wah
 
KARACHI: The scrutiny around Pakistan Cricket Board's (PCB) bio-secure protocols is increasing by the minute as it has now surfaced that a non-playing member of one of the Pakistan Super League (PSL) franchises who tested positive for Covid-19 was allowed to exit the bubble and fly back to Lahore.

As per rules and regulations, if someone tests positive for Covid-19 withinthe bubble, then that person has to quarantine himself until he returns two negative tests.

However, as per a report, the non-playing member of the PSL franchise returned a positive test near the start of the season and left
for Karachi from Lahore on the second day after that result.

The official had joined up with his franchise before the tournament began. He returned with a positive Covid-19 test on the day
the tournament began and he was then put in isolation in the hotel for the following day.

The decision to let him leave appears to have been the result of a communication gap between the medical team and the
security team who is in charge of the tournament.

PCB on Thursday had announced that the PSL season 6 will be postponed with immediate effect following a string of positive
COVID-19 cases. PCB had said the decision was made after seven cases were reported in the competition, which had started
on February 20.

"Distinguished infectious disease experts Dr Syed Faisal Mahmood and Dr Salma Muhammad Abbas have been appointed as
independent members of the two-person fact-finding panel that will review the bio-secure protocols as well as the bylaws that
were put in place during the Pakistan Super League 6," PCB said in a statement

https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/c...ositive-for-covid-19/articleshow/81386517.cms
 
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KARACHI: The scrutiny around Pakistan Cricket Board's (PCB) bio-secure protocols is increasing by the minute as it has now surfaced that a non-playing member of one of the Pakistan Super League (PSL) franchises who tested positive for Covid-19 was allowed to exit the bubble and fly back to Lahore.

As per rules and regulations, if someone tests positive for Covid-19 withinthe bubble, then that person has to quarantine himself until he returns two negative tests.


However, as per a report, the non-playing member of the PSL franchise returned a positive test near the start of the season and left
for Karachi from Lahore on the second day after that result.

The official had joined up with his franchise before the tournament began. He returned with a positive Covid-19 test on the day
the tournament began and he was then put in isolation in the hotel for the following day.

The decision to let him leave appears to have been the result of a communication gap between the medical team and the
security team who is in charge of the tournament.

PCB on Thursday had announced that the PSL season 6 will be postponed with immediate effect following a string of positive
COVID-19 cases. PCB had said the decision was made after seven cases were reported in the competition, which had started
on February 20.

"Distinguished infectious disease experts Dr Syed Faisal Mahmood and Dr Salma Muhammad Abbas have been appointed as
independent members of the two-person fact-finding panel that will review the bio-secure protocols as well as the bylaws that
were put in place during the Pakistan Super League 6," PCB said in a statement

https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/c...ositive-for-covid-19/articleshow/81386517.cms
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This is a criminal offence and the police, law enforcement authorities should arrest the people responsible for this.
 
Lahore: Just after the announcement of a two-member independent panel to find loopholes in the bio-secure bubble of the Pakistan Super League (PSL) season six, it has been revealed that Islamabad United’s Fawad Ahmed was not the first to test COVID-19 positive.

According to reports, Multan Sultans’ integrity officer was the first individual to test COVID-19 positive. The official didn’t undergo a mandatory isolation period and was allowed to travel home.

The integrity officer was also part of Sultans’ dugout and Fawad Ahmed fell victim to COVID-19 days after the Integrity Officer’s test came out positive.

Note, Fawad was tested positive on March 1 which led to the postponement of Quetta Gladiators-Islamabad United’s clash.

Three more participants part of the event were tested positive the following day after all the teams underwent PCR test.

On March 4, three more members from two different franchises came out COVID-19 positive, resulting in the postponement of the PSL 6.

Meanwhile, PCB has also announced a two-member fact-finding panel to investigate the flaws that occurred during the PSL 6.

ARY
 
MenInG said:
Lahore: Just after the announcement of a two-member independent panel to find loopholes in the bio-secure bubble of the Pakistan Super League (PSL) season six, it has been revealed that Islamabad United’s Fawad Ahmed was not the first to test COVID-19 positive.

According to reports, Multan Sultans’ integrity officer was the first individual to test COVID-19 positive. The official didn’t undergo a mandatory isolation period and was allowed to travel home.

The integrity officer was also part of Sultans’ dugout and Fawad Ahmed fell victim to COVID-19 days after the Integrity Officer’s test came out positive.

Note, Fawad was tested positive on March 1 which led to the postponement of Quetta Gladiators-Islamabad United’s clash.

Three more participants part of the event were tested positive the following day after all the teams underwent PCR test.

On March 4, three more members from two different franchises came out COVID-19 positive, resulting in the postponement of the PSL 6.

Meanwhile, PCB has also announced a two-member fact-finding panel to investigate the flaws that occurred during the PSL 6.

ARY
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Who allowed this guy to go home? Who gave the order? Both people should be behind bars
 
From media reports:

Later, it emerged that some other players, including Hasan Ali, had also tested positive after a birthday party was held at the hotel for former Pakistan player and bowling coach, Azhar Mahmood by one of the franchises which was attended by players.
 
Savak said:
Who allowed this guy to go home? Who gave the order? Both people should be behind bars
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Be careful with news source. I wouldn't believe anything ARY reports until they report on their own owner and his movements in and out of the bubble.
 
MenInG said:
From media reports:

Later, it emerged that some other players, including Hasan Ali, had also tested positive after a birthday party was held at the hotel for former Pakistan player and bowling coach, Azhar Mahmood by one of the franchises which was attended by players.
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Everyday something new is cropping up to make the situation worse.
 
Amir said:
Be careful with news source. I wouldn't believe anything ARY reports until they report on their own owner and his movements in and out of the bubble.
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It's not just ARY reporting this.
 
ccording to reports, Multan Sultans’ integrity officer was the first individual to test COVID-19 positive. The official didn’t undergo a mandatory isolation period and was allowed to travel home.

The integrity officer was also part of Sultans’ dugout
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Absolutely ridiculous.

How can this be allowed to happen. These people are putting the lives of others at stake.

Worse still, they tried to keep it quiet and brush it under the carpet.
 
MenInG said:
From media reports:

Later, it emerged that some other players, including Hasan Ali, had also tested positive after a birthday party was held at the hotel for former Pakistan player and bowling coach, Azhar Mahmood by one of the franchises which was attended by players.
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Looks like the whole PSL was a big party out there! PCB should stop calling it a bio-security breach & admit what it is - there was no bubble whatsoever!
 
It was a big PSL party with International guests where cricket was a time pass entertaining activity which flopped and now JAVED AFRIDI and some other owners are leaving no stone unturned by organinsing events at mall, holding birthday parties to make sure that the party goes on. They will prove that they can hold parties in a better way with no covid positive cases which PCB couldnt. Who cares about cricket as it was a side time pass activity ?
 
Abu_Hamza said:
It was a big PSL party with International guests where cricket was a time pass entertaining activity which flopped and now JAVED AFRIDI and some other owners are leaving no stone unturned by organinsing events at mall, holding birthday parties to make sure that the party goes on. They will prove that they can hold parties in a better way with no covid positive cases which PCB couldnt. Who cares about cricket as it was a side time pass activity ?
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Unfortunately this sounds about right.

Cricket seems to be an afterthought.
 
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