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Have to do right things to play for your country: Waqar Younis' jibe at Mohammad Amir

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Waqar Younis speaking to the media:

"It's unfortunate (Younis Khan stepping down as the batting coach) at the stroke of [a] big tour. It has happened, but this shouldn't have happened."

"Younis was a great help... [and] his work ethic has always been good."

“Fortunately, we have played a lot of cricket in UAE and our bowlers have a good idea that how and where to bowl in those conditions.”

“Haris Sohail is a talented cricketer, and it's unfortunate that he got injured before the start of the series. This is unlucky for him and the team.”

“Shahnawaz Dahani is a talented guy. He can do better and we will try to utilise him as much as we can.”

“We could not have ideal preparations due to rain. We had few practices indoor and a few on the ground. It would have been better if the sun was out and we could have spent more time on the ground"

“Cricket has changed significantly. Bowling at death is not an easy task. You can't just stop the flow of runs with yorkers. We have talked to the bowlers keeping in mind the conditions in England. We are hopeful that the players will perform up to our expectations during the series"

“It takes time for bowlers to adjust for ODIs after playing T20s. The pacers are getting into a good rhythm. We have been looking at the series between England and Sri Lanka with a lot of interest and will be making our plans accordingly. The rankings of the bowlers don’t matter if Pakistan is winning. The bowlers had lesser experience on previous tours. Hasan Ali is in good form while Shaheen has also done really well"

Was Wasim Khan's direct meeting with Mohammad Amir a vote of no confidence against Head Coach and Bowling Coach?

"Look I was not aware that Wasim Khan has met Mohammad Amir, and what was said in that meeting only became known via media and news reports; Wasim Khan is the CE of Pakistan cricket and he has every right to see whichever player he wishes to see and he met Amir on a personal basis - we were not aware of this meeting but now that this has been revealed, it's caused controversy"

"A lot has been said about Mohammad Amir's situation, and there is no doubt that he is a fine cricketer but if he doesn't want to play or take his retirement back and play and impress selectors then, it is hard [to bring him back]; Remember this Pakistan cricket and not the domain of one person like you or me, so you [Amir] have to do the right things to play for your country; This is not franchise cricket - One has to remember that"
 
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Pakistan bowling coach Waqar Younis feels it will be tough for paceman Mohammad Amir to make a comeback to international cricket without first impressing domestically.

Amir retired from international play last December, saying he was mentally tortured by his teammates and coaches. The left-arm fast bowler played in the recent Pakistan Super League with minimal success.

He reportedly met with Pakistan Cricket Board chief executive Wasim Khan earlier this year, leading to speculation of a return before the Twenty20 World Cup in October.

“No doubt he’s a fine cricketer, but if he doesn’t want to take his retirement back and impress selectors by playing cricket, it will be hard,” Younis told reporters via videoconference from England on Monday.

“It’s Pakistan cricket, it’s not yours or my cricket (team), you have to do the right things to play for your country. This is not a franchise cricket and one got to remember that.”

Younis said he was not aware about any meeting between Khan and Amir.

“To be honest I didn’t know about this (meeting),” he said. “He (Khan) is head of the cricket and he has every right to meet whosoever he wants to see; he went there in his personal capacity and we didn’t know about it.”

Amir played for Karachi Kings in the PSL, but could take only five wickets in 11 matches at an average of 69.80. Karachi was knocked out after losing both of their playoffs.

Amir took 259 wickets across 36 Tests, 61 one-day internationals and 50 T20s.

He was 18 when he was banned in 2010 for five years and jailed for three months for spot-fixing in a Test series in England. He was allowed to return to cricket a few months early and recalled by Pakistan in 2016.

In 2019 he no longer wanted to play Tests, to focus on white-ball cricket and prolong his international career.

Amir’s last international was in August 2020 in a T20 against England.

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...ional-return-domestic-success-younis-7390237/
 
Derby, 5 July 2021: Waqar Younis, Pakistan Men’s cricket team head coach while talking to media in a virtual media conference reiterated that he is satisfied with the bowlers’ performance in the recent series and if they continue to perform in the same manner they will do well in the ICC World T20 Cup scheduled to take place later this year.

When asked to comment on bowlers’ performances in the UAE, Waqar said, “Fortunately, we have played a lot of cricket in UAE and our bowlers have a good idea that how and where to bowl in those conditions.”

He said his emphasis will be on team performance rather than players ranking. “We don't look into players ranking, our only concern is team performance. If the team performs well players ranking will automatically improve.”

On players unable to practice due to wet conditions, the bowling coach said, “We are not getting ideal weather since last couple of days but this is usual in England. Our bowlers are responding well in these conditions even though they had come from different conditions of UAE.”

On Haris Sohail’s injury, he said, “Haris is a talented cricketer, and it's unfortunate that he got injured before the start of the series. This is unlucky for him and the team.”

The bowling coach said that they have been keenly following the recently concluded series between England and Sri Lanka.

When asked on young Shahnawaz Dahani performance in the recent concluded HBL PSL 6, Waqar said, “Shahnawaz Dahani is a talented guy. He can do better and we will try to utilise him as much as we can.”

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Yeah but are we winning against England, Australia, India and New Zealand more often than not?

Terrible coach! Aqib Javed is right about his commitment to cricket. This guy will go back into commentary if he is ever sacked by Pakistan. And then he will wait for his next opportunity to be back with PCB as a coach at some point
 
Waqar Younis is spot on here, everyone and their dogs know that Shaheen is the best young pace bowler on the planet. The rest of the line up ranges from average to good but some of them are young enough to develop further, all pace bowlers actually bowl pace too.

the spinners should be a greater concern to Pakistan cricket. Shah is on his last legs and there has not been a single world class replacement.
 
Why doesn't Waqar keep his mouth shut regarding talking about Mohammad Amir?
He did exactly the same thing during the New Zealand tour. He is on tour and should be working with the bowlers with the team rather than the one who isn't there.

Wish someone from the higher ups needs to tell him to refrain from talking about Amir. It has already caused enough controversy already.

The guys on the tour are the one he should be talking about.
 
Why doesn't Waqar keep his mouth shut regarding talking about Mohammad Amir?
He did exactly the same thing during the New Zealand tour. He is on tour and should be working with the bowlers with the team rather than the one who isn't there.

Wish someone from the higher ups needs to tell him to refrain from talking about Amir. It has already caused enough controversy already.

The guys on the tour are the one he should be talking about.

I’m actually amazed that the PCB haven’t tried to stop him from talking to the media. Only Pakistan could go into a big tour and cause drama. I bet if he gets asked about his performance as a bowling coach he’ll immediately avoid answering.
 
Why doesn't Waqar keep his mouth shut regarding talking about Mohammad Amir?
He did exactly the same thing during the New Zealand tour. He is on tour and should be working with the bowlers with the team rather than the one who isn't there.

Wish someone from the higher ups needs to tell him to refrain from talking about Amir. It has already caused enough controversy already.

The guys on the tour are the one he should be talking about.

Well he was asked the question in a press conference, so I guess he wanted to answer it.

The alternative could have been no comment, which probably would have generated more controversy.
 
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Waqar not holding back it seems in how he feels about Amir!
 
Regardless of what you may think of Waqar, he said nothing wrong here. If anything he is 100% correct.

Does Amir really expect to just walk back into the team on the back of his atrocious PSL performance and the fact that he has not played any domestic cricket for the better part of a year?
 
Waqar, what do you think about your coaching? Have you made any difference in the 5 terms you got so far? If you are a coach, and you need 5 terms to make any difference, then it is your failure. Currently you have made no difference at all. Infact players have regressed under you. Time for you to go back to Australia, and enjoy permanent retirement from coaching atleast.
 
Sounds like Waqar is still recovering from the mental blows he suffered in 1996
 
Regardless of what you may think of Waqar, he said nothing wrong here. If anything he is 100% correct.

Does Amir really expect to just walk back into the team on the back of his atrocious PSL performance and the fact that he has not played any domestic cricket for the better part of a year?

Do you think it’s the right time to have a go at a player just ahead of an important series?

All he’s doing is feeding the media with more controversy, we should be taking about the current players on the tour and not the ones who aren’t there.

Waqar should stop obsessing over Amir and focus on his own job, by the end of this tour he’ll probably make Haris Rauf the scapegoat for his own coaching failures.
 
So... Are we still believing that Waqar has no personal grudge against and his non-selection is based purely on merit?

This guy cannot keep his mouth shut regarding Amir. Yes, he was asked a question, which he can btw easily not comment on, but we can sense the tone with which he talks about Amir.

No one can deny that Waqar is still salty about Amir retiring from test cricket and has done all in his power to keep him out from the team. A petty man with a petty vendetta.
 
So... Are we still believing that Waqar has no personal grudge against and his non-selection is based purely on merit?

This guy cannot keep his mouth shut regarding Amir. Yes, he was asked a question, which he can btw easily not comment on, but we can sense the tone with which he talks about Amir.

No one can deny that Waqar is still salty about Amir retiring from test cricket and has done all in his power to keep him out from the team. A petty man with a petty vendetta.

No vendetta here. Amir has been talking smack about the team management since his retirement, this is Waqars first response.

Also let's not kid ourselves, Amir has not been setting the world alite with his bowling in the T20 leagues. There is no place for his Mark Ealham type 125-130 km/hr ineffective bowling in the Pakistani team
 
Do you think it’s the right time to have a go at a player just ahead of an important series?

All he’s doing is feeding the media with more controversy, we should be taking about the current players on the tour and not the ones who aren’t there.

Waqar should stop obsessing over Amir and focus on his own job, by the end of this tour he’ll probably make Haris Rauf the scapegoat for his own coaching failures.

He was asked a question and he responded factually. Deal with it
 
Do you think it’s the right time to have a go at a player just ahead of an important series?

All he’s doing is feeding the media with more controversy, we should be taking about the current players on the tour and not the ones who aren’t there.

Waqar should stop obsessing over Amir and focus on his own job, by the end of this tour he’ll probably make Haris Rauf the scapegoat for his own coaching failures.

Amir is not in the squad so having a go against him will not have an effect on series. So relax
 
He was asked a question and he responded factually. Deal with it

He was asked a question that was irrelevant to the tour of England, he should’ve stayed quiet but instead his ego got the better of him and he had to open his big mouth.

The fact that he replied to the question shows that Amir lives in his head rent free.

He should be more worried about his own role in the team, watching Shaheen getting walloped in the death overs should be his main concern, not whether Amir should be in the team or not. Waqar has no authority to decide who should be in the team or not, he’s the bowling coach, leave these questions for the chief selector. Also, Waqar is probably envious of the fact that Amir has 2 major icc trophies even with a 5 year ban and yet he has none.
 
Well said wiki, and people who stays Amir has two UCC trophies ,lolz it was not him whi was bang average toll we played finals ? And Waqar does not have 5 years ban behind him, any nation with a little bit of dignity wouldn't allowed this fixer to play for Paksitan again but here in pakistan there are fans of Aamir.Sorry states of affairs.
 
Amir is an overrated bowler and has nothing left in him so he decided to retire. What waqar should be saying is “Amir Who?”. Waqar was legend and mediocre. Wouldn’t even put him at the same level as Aqib Javed
 
No vendetta here. Amir has been talking smack about the team management since his retirement, this is Waqars first response.

Also let's not kid ourselves, Amir has not been setting the world alite with his bowling in the T20 leagues. There is no place for his Mark Ealham type 125-130 km/hr ineffective bowling in the Pakistani team

Waqar started to mud slinging when he first talked about how Amir ditched the team for T20 leagues - can't blame Amir for responding. Waqar is still going on apparently.

Yup, Amir certainly isn't setting the world alight but his competition is not the world. His competition are the Musas, Husnains and Raufs type jobbers we've played over him. He is certainly good enough to compete against them and be in the mix. The fact that he's been discarded completely should tell you that there's more to this decision.
 
Waqar is right. But he shouldn't have made that franchise cricket comment.
 
Just because a student is in the wrong doesn't mean the teacher keeps going on, and on, and on about them, just as a worker has been fired doesn't mean the manager keeps on harping on.

I can see now why the Waqar & Wasim feuds continued for years and the toll it must have taken on the pakistan cricket team. This is unprofessional, stubborn and just down right annoying from Waqar.

Ignore the question, you have made your feelings known on the issue, concentrate on your job. :facepalm:
 
Yeah but are we winning against England, Australia, India and New Zealand more often than not?

Terrible coach! Aqib Javed is right about his commitment to cricket. This guy will go back into commentary if he is ever sacked by Pakistan. And then he will wait for his next opportunity to be back with PCB as a coach at some point

And aqib is a Brilliant coach.
 
Do you think it’s the right time to have a go at a player just ahead of an important series?

All he’s doing is feeding the media with more controversy, we should be taking about the current players on the tour and not the ones who aren’t there.

Waqar should stop obsessing over Amir and focus on his own job, by the end of this tour he’ll probably make Haris Rauf the scapegoat for his own coaching failures.

Waqar didn't ask the question, the question was asked to him. The nature of the question too was inherently controversial. And credit to him, he did his best to keep his personal feelings aside while being honest about how he feels. And its absolutely nothing compared to the vitriol Amir has spewed on multiple occasions against Waqar and Misbah.

I highly doubt Waqar obsesses over Amir considering Amir hasn't even been in the team in a year, Pakistan have been winning without him and Amir has looked like an associate-level medium pacer elsewhere in the PSL.
 
Amir's test bowling average is higher than Salman Butt's batting average.

His real age is probably higher than both.

Let that sink in.
 
It is fine to sideline Amir and move on from him, but then at least pick someone who is visibly better.

You can’t pick rubbish like Wahab, Rauf, Naseem, Musa, Hasnain etc. than expect people to move on from Amir.
 
It is fine to sideline Amir and move on from him, but then at least pick someone who is visibly better.

You can’t pick rubbish like Wahab, Rauf, Naseem, Musa, Hasnain etc. than expect people to move on from Amir.

Shaheen, Amir, and Hassan are the only three world class fast bowlers in Pakistan. So therefore, it's fairly obvious that the alternatives will be nowhere near as good as him. Also, Amir moved on himself by retiring, can't pick a retired player.
 
Shaheen, Amir, and Hassan are the only three world class fast bowlers in Pakistan. So therefore, it's fairly obvious that the alternatives will be nowhere near as good as him. Also, Amir moved on himself by retiring, can't pick a retired player.

Amir has retired because he does not want to play under this management. If Misbah/waqar leave tomorrow, there is a high chance that Amir will make himself available.

Relationships break down but they can also be repaired. The problem here is that both Misbah and Waqar are letting their egos get the better of them.
 
Amir has retired because he does not want to play under this management. If Misbah/waqar leave tomorrow, there is a high chance that Amir will make himself available.

He should have just made himself unavailable for selection then until he got some favourite as coach/manager. Why use end-of-the-world words like "retirement"?
 
He should have just made himself unavailable for selection then until he got some favourite as coach/manager. Why use end-of-the-world words like "retirement"?

Let’s just say if Amir had gone back to domestic and performed well enough to get back into the team, how would you expect him to reintegrate into the team when the bowling coach and the coach have made it clear that they don’t want him in the team?
 
Let’s just say if Amir had gone back to domestic and performed well enough to get back into the team, how would you expect him to reintegrate into the team when the bowling coach and the coach have made it clear that they don’t want him in the team?

Hang on - I thought it was these coaches that Amir didn't want around the team. If that's the case, he can bowl as well as he likes in domestic cricket, but not put his name for selection as long as the coaches in question are around.
 
Hang on - I thought it was these coaches that Amir didn't want around the team. If that's the case, he can bowl as well as he likes in domestic cricket, but not put his name for selection as long as the coaches in question are around.

Yup, because he was dropped for the NZ tour after retiring from test cricket. And when you’re being replaced by mediocre players like Hasnian and Musa, and oldies like Sohail and Tabish then you know the management don’t want you around the team regardless of form.

Misbah and Waqar don’t want Amir in the team, so why is it wrong for Amir to say he doesn’t want to play under them?

The way I see it is, there’s no one that’s good enough to replace Amir at this moment, and when there is, only then will I move on from him. However, Misbah and Waqar can be sacked today and not one person will miss them.
 
He should have just made himself unavailable for selection then until he got some favourite as coach/manager. Why use end-of-the-world words like "retirement"?

It may be end of the world words in other countries/sports but for Pakistan retirement essentially means a 2-3 month break to avoid being dropped and then cry on TV about the injustice.

To put it into context here is Moyo's take on retirement

"If the team doesn’t need me I stand retired. But if I’m needed, I am ready and available to serve my country"
 
Waqar not holding back it seems in how he feels about Amir!

It's what most of us have felt for the past couple of years. He's a good bowler, but not as good as he was, and once you lose that edge, you certainly can't carry on acting like God's gift to Pakistan cricket. If he was taking boatloads of wickets before downing tools he would have had a lot more leverage. As it was he was bowling absolute dross most of the time, and being outperformed by youngsters with far less attitude.
 
Do you think it’s the right time to have a go at a player just ahead of an important series?

All he’s doing is feeding the media with more controversy, we should be taking about the current players on the tour and not the ones who aren’t there.

Waqar should stop obsessing over Amir and focus on his own job, by the end of this tour he’ll probably make Haris Rauf the scapegoat for his own coaching failures.

He was asked the question in the conference, and what he said was indeed correct.

As a coach, he gave an unbiased statement which consisted of how Amir had certain expectations to meet before he could make the team again.

It's a press conference, it's not a big deal. People are taking his statement out of proportion.
 
He was asked the question in the conference, and what he said was indeed correct.

As a coach, he gave an unbiased statement which consisted of how Amir had certain expectations to meet before he could make the team again.

It's a press conference, it's not a big deal. People are taking his statement out of proportion.

If he was asked about his performances as the bowling coach then I’m pretty sure he’d avoid it. Just because you get asked a question at PC it doesn’t mean you have to answer it. What would’ve happened if he stayed quiet? All he’s doing is continuing the feud between him and Amir. Waqar needs to act his age, and I can see why Wasim and Afridi didn’t get along with him in the past.
 
Well he was asked the question in a press conference, so I guess he wanted to answer it.

The alternative could have been no comment, which probably would have generated more controversy.

He could have just said I'd rather talk about the bowlers we have on tour rather than those who aren't.
 
Hang on - I thought it was these coaches that Amir didn't want around the team. If that's the case, he can bowl as well as he likes in domestic cricket, but not put his name for selection as long as the coaches in question are around.

He doesn't like to work hard and considers him above the other bowlers in Pakistan. It's a well known fact. Otherwise why would he retire from Tests. He hasn't played an FC match in 2 years.
 
Shaheen, Amir, and Hassan are the only three world class fast bowlers in Pakistan. So therefore, it's fairly obvious that the alternatives will be nowhere near as good as him. Also, Amir moved on himself by retiring, can't pick a retired player.

How is Amir stil world class ?
 
Let’s just say if Amir had gone back to domestic and performed well enough to get back into the team, how would you expect him to reintegrate into the team when the bowling coach and the coach have made it clear that they don’t want him in the team?

First Amir needs to play domestic and perform and if he does he will be called back into the squad even if misbah says no.
 
Yup, because he was dropped for the NZ tour after retiring from test cricket. And when you’re being replaced by mediocre players like Hasnian and Musa, and oldies like Sohail and Tabish then you know the management don’t want you around the team regardless of form.

Misbah and Waqar don’t want Amir in the team, so why is it wrong for Amir to say he doesn’t want to play under them?

The way I see it is, there’s no one that’s good enough to replace Amir at this moment, and when there is, only then will I move on from him. However, Misbah and Waqar can be sacked today and not one person will miss them.

Should you not be more motivated to perform if someone doesn't want you in the team?

What's Amir done recently ?
 
I feel really bad for someone like Junaid Khan. Guy was sidelined as soon as M Amir became available for selection. He didn't even complain much and chose to put a tape on his mouth instead. :junaid :inti
 
If he was asked about his performances as the bowling coach then I’m pretty sure he’d avoid it. Just because you get asked a question at PC it doesn’t mean you have to answer it. What would’ve happened if he stayed quiet? All he’s doing is continuing the feud between him and Amir. Waqar needs to act his age, and I can see why Wasim and Afridi didn’t get along with him in the past.

Waqar was a pretty hard taskmaster at a time when Pakistan players saw foreign tours as an extended holiday. I think that's why some of his team mates didn't get along with him to be honest. I wasn't even the biggest fan of Waqar like some are, but his work ethic was 10x better than most of his contemporaries.
 
Amir has retired because he does not want to play under this management. If Misbah/waqar leave tomorrow, there is a high chance that Amir will make himself available.

Relationships break down but they can also be repaired. The problem here is that both Misbah and Waqar are letting their egos get the better of them.

Misbah hasn't said much. This statement seems factual
 
At this stage it seems that even the United Nations won't be able to sort out the differences.

Not promising signs for those wanting Amir to make an international comeback.
 
Waqar, what do you think about your coaching? Have you made any difference in the 5 terms you got so far? If you are a coach, and you need 5 terms to make any difference, then it is your failure. Currently you have made no difference at all. Infact players have regressed under you. Time for you to go back to Australia, and enjoy permanent retirement from coaching atleast.

While what Waqar said is totally correct, this is a fantastic post asking the right questions. Waqar has heavily tarnished his legacy by his constant failures as the coach for Pakistan team. More blame goes to PCB who run to waqar everytime like hes some wordclass coach.
 
While what Waqar said is totally correct, this is a fantastic post asking the right questions. Waqar has heavily tarnished his legacy by his constant failures as the coach for Pakistan team. More blame goes to PCB who run to waqar everytime like hes some wordclass coach.

Why do we have to pivot and attack the person who is speaking the truth? You may not like him or his past or his performance but what does any of that have to do with the statement of his which is the topic of this discussion? Is he not correct? Is he lying? Do you disagree with him?

Nobody is perfect, but that doesn’t mean it’s ok for people to jump down your throat every time you open your mouth.
 
Why do we have to pivot and attack the person who is speaking the truth? You may not like him or his past or his performance but what does any of that have to do with the statement of his which is the topic of this discussion? Is he not correct? Is he lying? Do you disagree with him?

Nobody is perfect, but that doesn’t mean it’s ok for people to jump down your throat every time you open your mouth.
I literally said in the first line of my answer that whatever waqar is saying is totally correct..
 
If he was asked about his performances as the bowling coach then I’m pretty sure he’d avoid it. Just because you get asked a question at PC it doesn’t mean you have to answer it. What would’ve happened if he stayed quiet? All he’s doing is continuing the feud between him and Amir. Waqar needs to act his age, and I can see why Wasim and Afridi didn’t get along with him in the past.

Are you upset that he answered or that he spoke the truth?

If a question is asked, it's up to him to answer it if he chooses to. And he answered the question respectfully and in a professional manner.

He did nothing wrong in that interview.
 
Kamran Akmal criticises 'negative' statement by Waqar Younis

Pakistan’s bowling coach had lamented the lack of ‘ideal’ preparations due to rain

Pakistan’s bowling coach Waqar Younis, while talking in a virtual press conference on Monday, had lamented the lack of ‘ideal’ preparations due to rain. The 49-year-old believed that more time on the ground could have proved beneficial for the players and the team.

“Waqar bhai didn’t talk positively about team’s preparation. Regardless of the conditions and situation, you have to prepare yourself. Management should talk positively,” Akmal said on his YouTube channel.

“Our team recently played PSL and toured South Africa and Zimbabwe earlier as well. We are playing cricket regularly, so I don’t know why he said they haven’t gotten ideal preparation. You have to prepare yourself as a professional. It is the responsibility of the management to prepare the team,” he added.

The three-match ODI series between Pakistan and England which is also part of the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup Super League will commence from Cardiff on 8 July.

https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/news/detail/kamran-akmal-criticises-negative-statement-by-waqar-younis
 
Hopefully amirs career has ended and wont be playing any cricket.

Pakistan cricket shouldnt be open for corrupt fixers. Already pathetic stuff from waseem khan to approach a corrupt player
 
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