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Just a general thread, but what is the idea of Hazaras in Pakistan ,expect for them being Shi'as?? For the most part, I feel despite being a small number they are making many many contributions to Pakistani Society

During the British expansion in the 19th century, Hazaras worked during the winter months in coal mines, road construction and in other menial labor jobs in some cities of what is now Pakistan. The earliest record of Hazara in the areas of Pakistan is found in Broadfoot's Sappers company from 1835 in Quetta. This company had also participated in the First Anglo-Afghan War. Some Hazara also worked in the agriculture farms in Sindh and construction of Sukkur barrage. Haider Ali Karmal Jaghori was a prominent political thinker of the Hazara people in Pakistan, writing about the political history of Hazara people. His work Hazaraha wa Hazarajat Bastan Dar Aiyna-e-Tarikh was published in Quetta in 1992, and another work by Aziz Tughyan Hazara Tarikh Milli Hazara was published in 1984 in Quetta.

Most Pakistani Hazaras today live in the city of Quetta, in Balochistan, Pakistan. Localities in the city of Quetta with prominent Hazara populations include Hazara Town and Mehr Abad and Hazara tribes such as the Sardar are exclusively Pakistani. Literacy level among the Hazara community in Pakistan is relatively high compare to the Hazaras of Afghanistan, and they have integrated well into the social dynamics of the local society. Saira Batool, a Hazara woman, was one of the first female pilots in Pakistan Air Force. Other notable Hazara include Qazi Mohammad Esa, General Muhammad Musa, who served as Commander in Chief of the Pakistani Army from 1958 to 1968, Air Marshal Sharbat Ali Changezi, Hussain Ali Yousafi, the slain chairman of the Hazara Democratic Party, Syed Nasir Ali Shah, MNA from Quetta and his father Haji Syed Hussain Hazara who was a senator and member of majlis shora during the Zia-ul-Haq era. Agha Abbas and his son Agha Ghulam Ali, owners of Agha Juice, a famous fruit juice outlet in the country since 1960, who were murdered in May 2002 and January 2007.
Pakistans Maradona and one of the finest football Pakistan has ever had is Yunus Chengazi, now also a politician

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Do many Pakistanis even know of Hazara people, and the possible struggles they face?

Despite all of this, Hazaras are often targeted by militant groups such as the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and others. "Activists say at least 800-1,000 Hazaras have been killed since 1999 and the pace is quickening. More than one hundred have been murdered in and around Quetta since January, according to Human Rights Watch."[51] The political representation of the community is served by Hazara Democratic Party, a secular liberal democratic party, headed by Abdul Khaliq Hazara.

Even the refugees who have come don't seem to cause us any trouble at all.
 
General Musa rose from sepoy to General. That's quite the story, and I believe he wrote an autobiography which I haven't read but plan to if I can get my hands on it.

The way they've been brutally slaughtered at the altar of Saudi interests is a tragedy second only to the apathy they've encountered from the rest of us.
 
General Musa rose from sepoy to General. That's quite the story, and I believe he wrote an autobiography which I haven't read but plan to if I can get my hands on it.

The way they've been brutally slaughtered at the altar of Saudi interests is a tragedy second only to the apathy they've encountered from the rest of us.

agreed, they cause us no trouble at all but still we discrimnate against them
 
Heard of them first in the movie Kite runner where they are looked down upon not sure how it is in Pakistan.
 
Heard of them first in the movie Kite runner where they are looked down upon not sure how it is in Pakistan.

they're not well known in Pakistan, atleast I don't think so, they face trouble from religious extremists but I read about Pakistani Hazaras going to universities etc being known as hard working people, interesting enough the Afghanistan Hazaras I've met have always showed good hospitality to Pakistanis, even trying a effort to speak Urdu to us :) lol
 
I know a hazara guy at my gym, a lot of them are moving from Quetta to Karachi for safety.
 
I know a hazara guy at my gym, a lot of them are moving from Quetta to Karachi for safety.

is karachi mixed, all i hear about is how many pashtuns, hazaras, punjabis, are there, seems like my kind of place
 
There are a lot of Hazara's in New Zealand now. A whole lot of them got on a boat, and sailed to Christmas island, Australia. New Zealand took quite a lot of them in as refugees. Many were settled in Pakistan, while others came from Afghanistan.

They are all Shia, and many shifted to Pakistan because they were facing genocide, ironically they had to leave Pakistani too, for the very same reason.
 
A lot of them have left, and are completely leaving Pakistan for safety. There are heaps in New Zealand now.

Yeah i've heard of the large Hazara community in Australia, but still vast majority live in Pakistan and they're only endangered in Quetta cause of the sectarianism and racism they face.

I've been noticing an increasing population of them in Khi, i guess they use it as a base to move to the west.
 
is karachi mixed, all i hear about is how many pashtuns, hazaras, punjabis, are there, seems like my kind of place

Yea it's very mixed ethnically, lol it can't be your kind of place cause of the violence and rough environment. It's like a fusion of Harlem and Baghdad.
 
https://www.dawn.com/news/1405766/hazara-massacre

Those who are aware of the current situation in Pakistan will be aware that the Hazara community are continuing to suffer and faced continued violence in recent weeks. These people deserve much better from the state but seem to be unable to go about daily life without constant fear of violence.
 
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I know a fair few Hazaras in Sydney whilst growing up.

Very loving and hard working people.

They show a lot more love to Pakistanis in comparison to other Afghans.
 
Chief Justice of Pakistan Mian Saqib Nisar took suo motu notice of the targeted killings.

"I have just met members of the Hazara community; they are so scared that they are not even approaching the Supreme Court," said Justice Nisar today, seeking a report from all law enforcement agencies.

"The killers of Hazara community are holding rallies out in the open," he added, lamenting that the ostracised community members were not being given admission in universities.

"They can't go to schools or hospitals. Are they not citizens of Pakistan?"

The CJP will hold a hearing on the suo motu notice in Quetta on May 11.

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.dawn.com/news/amp/1405173

who are these people ?
 
Spare a thought for Hazaras

They are hated by the Taliban and Pashtuns in Afghanistan, get persecuted by religious organizations in Pakistan where they took refuge and China wouldn't accept them because they are Muslims.

People in Pakistan who are doing bhangra over the US deal with Taliban should be a bit empathic about Hazaras and other minorities in Afghanistan.
 
They are hated by the Taliban and Pashtuns in Afghanistan, get persecuted by religious organizations in Pakistan where they took refuge and China wouldn't accept them because they are Muslims.

People in Pakistan who are doing bhangra over the US deal with Taliban should be a bit empathic about Hazaras and other minorities in Afghanistan.
True. I have written in detail about the killings of Hazaras and Shias in Pakistan. Indeed, today marks a horrible day for minorities in general.
 
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