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made a comeback in 2009 .. yes

but was permanent in the team till 2007 and in 2008 we didnt play a test ...

He is a crap one day payer ..

He got his chance but was never our best opener in 2000's didnt deserve to play nearlyy 40 tests

welll alll im trying to say here its pakistan cricke board,,, n e thing is possible ahmed shezad and hafeez have a terrible series du really think they will play in the world cup if u doo then u got another thing coming thts all my point,,, and about farhat i still think he is a gud player hate him or love him got nothing to do with me dude :farhat
 
he only just made a comeback at 2009 he never had him sat on the bench before tht,,,
and i only feel for him caz he is always under presssure to perform only caz of his father in law i think if mr ilyas quits his job as a selector we might just c him as a better player,,,
plus his last odi scores were 27, 69, 48, 0 i dnt think thts fair on him to b dropped if everyone is blowing mr fawad alams whistle
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Did u watch these matches live? He was playing tests rather than ODIs. Stats doesn't tell u the whole story.
 
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Did u watch these matches live? He was playing tests rather than ODIs. Stats doesn't tell u the whole story.

u would say tht being a dieeee harddd fan of mr club cricketer shazaibb hassan,,, actually he is just a domestic bully no bottle for international cricket,,, and the 27 was of 34,, the 68 was a run a ball, the 48 agaisnt south africa was slow yess,, but at 2 for 11 wat did u want him to doo goo all guns blazing lol,,,,
 
u would say tht being a dieeee harddd fan of mr club cricketer shazaibb hassan,,, actually he is just a domestic bully no bottle for international cricket,,, and the 27 was of 34,, the 68 was a run a ball, the 48 agaisnt south africa was slow yess,, but at 2 for 11 wat did u want him to doo goo all guns blazing lol,,,,

69 against bangla his only fifty in last 5 innings


I can guarantee u if u give any guy like nasir jamshed , ahmed shehzad , azeem ghumman 40 tests he will have better stats compared to sifarshi farhat


If farhat can play nearly 40 tests avging 31 then wat about guys like hasan raza , asim kamal etc etc wat have they done wrong to discarded so easily and mr farhat due to his father in law kept playing for nearly 10 yrs
 
u would say tht being a dieeee harddd fan of mr club cricketer shazaibb hassan,,, actually he is just a domestic bully no bottle for international cricket,,, and the 27 was of 34,, the 68 was a run a ball, the 48 agaisnt south africa was slow yess,, but at 2 for 11 wat did u want him to doo goo all guns blazing lol,,,,

well its hard to advocate for a trash like imran farhat , I salute you for doing that. You are calling shahzaib hassan a club cricketer and you are pleading a case of a cricketer who shouldn't even be touching the bat even in gully mohalla cricket rathar playing for our national team. Strike rate of 70 as a one day opener , how pathetic is that ?plus his wonderful fielding , has dropped more than he has caught. Any day a club cricketer like shahzaib hasan over 'damadji' of PCB. Shahzaib hasan is not convincing but a thousand times better than Imran farhat. Though both of them not going to play for pakistan , its going to be nasir jamshed , khurram manzoor and ahmad shahzad who will be opeing for pakistan in the future.
 
im not defending him or n e one,,, look at hafeez ppl are thinking he is the best thing on planet earth he stillll averages 20 in 55 odi games wat would u say to tht... butt yasir hameed nasir jamshed khalid latif khurram allll avg in the low 30s even mr ahemad shezad,,, its not im backing him or n e thing i just think pakistan has and always will have a problem at tht position
 
im not defending him or n e one,,, look at hafeez ppl are thinking he is the best thing on planet earth he stillll averages 20 in 55 odi games wat would u say to tht... butt yasir hameed nasir jamshed khalid latif khurram allll avg in the low 30s even mr ahemad shezad,,, its not im backing him or n e thing i just think pakistan has and always will have a problem at tht position

unlike mr imran farhat these all players you have mentioned above do not score half of their runs through edges and know how to rotate the strike. Hafeez after his return has done well , bowls useful overs , his fileding is a lot better than mr imran farhat and rotates the strike well. A dropped catch by mr imran farhat is a further torture when you have to watch him open the innings for pakistan.
 
does not matter how the runs come as long as they come lol... even if ure dropped 50 times it never says tht in the book right,,,, n who ever plays for pakistan b it mr farhat or n e one else gud look to them.. them doing well is good for the country soo i have no personal grudges just feel for him as he is always playing under pressure thats all..
 
guys, haven't had enough time to watch the matches, have a few questions.

- how is the orange ball behaving?

- is the day/night experiment worth a try?
 
Have a few questions too:-

How good is this Aizaz Cheema?

Has Anwar Ali developed in any way?

General impressions of Shan Masood?


I unfortunately have been unable to watch the ongoing final. Do let me know your impressions of certain players and your technical analysis regarding them. The descriptions on cricinfo suggest that Cheema has been bowling well. Imran Farhat notches up a ton, against a good potent attack in all fairness. Let’s give credit where its due, he must have played well.
 
does not matter how the runs come as long as they come lol... even if ure dropped 50 times it never says tht in the book right,,,, n who ever plays for pakistan b it mr farhat or n e one else gud look to them.. them doing well is good for the country soo i have no personal grudges just feel for him as he is always playing under pressure thats all..

lol ok , batting is a game of partnership and making things easier for your partner. He might have played under pressure but he definitely was not upto the job . I have a personal grudge against him lol. As he did not deserve to be in the team yet he was in the team because of his father in law indeed. We all though that he was not the best opener pakistan could have , taufeeq umar was sidelined who is a lot more assuring than mr imran farhat , salman butt is talented but more often than not he wasted himself. Yasir hameed , same tale nted but too flashy. Nasir jamshed certainly is world class material. Well we have to pick the best then why imran farhat.
 
u would say tht being a dieeee harddd fan of mr club cricketer shazaibb hassan,,, actually he is just a domestic bully no bottle for international cricket,,, and the 27 was of 34,, the 68 was a run a ball, the 48 agaisnt south africa was slow yess,, but at 2 for 11 wat did u want him to doo goo all guns blazing lol,,,,

Why do people even compare? I will have any club cricket over the sifarshi player.

Shahzaib scored 50 on 36 deliveries against bangladesh. lol. And the less u talk about his 48 is better. He was playing for himself. Not for the team. Blazing? How can we expect it from him when he was too hesitant to touch the ball :)) :))
 
guys, haven't had enough time to watch the matches, have a few questions.

- how is the orange ball behaving?

- is the day/night experiment worth a try?

Its definitely worth a try and orange ball moves around a lot . Its good to see a fair contest between ball and bat. Something for everyone in the pitch as well, for quickies as well as for the spinners. There seems to be no problem in sighting the ball as 'imran farhat' scored a century. Overall i liked it and should be played more often.
 
well its hard to advocate for a trash like imran farhat , I salute you for doing that. You are calling shahzaib hassan a club cricketer and you are pleading a case of a cricketer who shouldn't even be touching the bat even in gully mohalla cricket rathar playing for our national team. Strike rate of 70 as a one day opener , how pathetic is that ?plus his wonderful fielding , has dropped more than he has caught. Any day a club cricketer like shahzaib hasan over 'damadji' of PCB. Shahzaib hasan is not convincing but a thousand times better than Imran farhat. Though both of them not going to play for pakistan , its going to be nasir jamshed , khurram manzoor and ahmad shahzad who will be opeing for pakistan in the future.


How can u be so sure?

Shahzaib averages 33 in 3 ODIs. Nasir 35 after 12 mathces and ahmad 26 after 4 matches.

Not to forget nasir had the best luxury to play in pakistan's most dead wickets. His 2 fiftys came against zimbawbe and one against bangladesh and one against india. How can he be World Class? Thrashing the minnows ins World class? What happened when the World Class player played in Sri lankan seaming tracks?
 
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Its definitely worth a try and orange ball moves around a lot . Its good to see a fair contest between ball and bat. Something for everyone in the pitch as well, for quickies as well as for the spinners. There seems to be no problem in sighting the ball as 'imran farhat' scored a century. Overall i liked it and should be played more often.

It's worth a try. But i didn't see any signs of reverse swing with the orange ball. And when this ball get older it's hard to make it swing in my opinion as compared to the red ball. And the grip of the ball is also troubling bowlers.
 
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How can u be so sure?

Shahzaib averages 33 in 3 ODIs. Nasir 35 after 12 mathces and ahmad 26 after 4 matches.

Not to forget nasir had the best luxury to play in pakistan's most dead wickets. His 2 fiftys came against zimbawbe and one against bangladesh and one against india. How can he be World Class? Thrashing the minnows ins World class? What happened when the World Class player played in Sri lankan seaming tracks?

Shahzaib definitely does deserve his chances at least in one day cricket. His lack of technique was so very visible in the innings he has played so far. Feet scarcely move and body falls to the offside too much. I mean he must have some talent thats why he has scored too much in domestic cricket where btw imran farhat has scored 21 centuries. In international cricket every team has their best lot out of the country in the team and they sort the opponent players out quickly. I wish he plays and performs well for pakistan, the more the competition for the spot the better it will be. I agree that nasir jamshed failed in srilanka ans so did mr shahzaib hasan as well , that was a torture , isnt it? 11 of 33 balls. Shahzaib hasan has a fifty against minnows too , against bangladesh. I am a supporter of umar akmal and i am going through hard time. I know you are the number 1 supporter of shahzaib hasan and i have nothing against him , my analysis might be faulty but i do trust it.
 
Shahzaib definitely does deserve his chances at least in one day cricket. His lack of technique was so very visible in the innings he has played so far. Feet scarcely move and body falls to the offside too much. I mean he must have some talent thats why he has scored too much in domestic cricket where btw imran farhat has scored 21 centuries. In international cricket every team has their best lot out of the country in the team and they sort the opponent players out quickly. I wish he plays and performs well for pakistan, the more the competition for the spot the better it will be. I agree that nasir jamshed failed in srilanka ans so did mr shahzaib hasan as well , that was a torture , isnt it? 11 of 33 balls. Shahzaib hasan has a fifty against minnows too , against bangladesh. I am a supporter of umar akmal and i am going through hard time. I know you are the number 1 supporter of shahzaib hasan and i have nothing against him , my analysis might be faulty but i do trust it.

and by the way i dnt get yyyy on earth are our two tooop quality operners mr shazaib hassan and khalid latif playing division two cricket,,, i really dnt get it thts wat happens u got all ure top bowlers in division on then all of a sudden they play international cricket and there seeem soo out of placeee...i really like shazaibs attitude and the way he goes fearless at the game but the thing is its the boards mistake and the selectors to blame for all this mess...
 
I missed out on the best part of the match, but emclub quoted it for me:

there was some issue the umpires stood in the middle of pitch....all fielders started coming in....so Malik asked umpires what, is power play starting?
 
Shahzaib definitely does deserve his chances at least in one day cricket. His lack of technique was so very visible in the innings he has played so far. Feet scarcely move and body falls to the offside too much. I mean he must have some talent thats why he has scored too much in domestic cricket where btw imran farhat has scored 21 centuries. In international cricket every team has their best lot out of the country in the team and they sort the opponent players out quickly. I wish he plays and performs well for pakistan, the more the competition for the spot the better it will be. I agree that nasir jamshed failed in srilanka ans so did mr shahzaib hasan as well , that was a torture , isnt it? 11 of 33 balls. Shahzaib hasan has a fifty against minnows too , against bangladesh. I am a supporter of umar akmal and i am going through hard time. I know you are the number 1 supporter of shahzaib hasan and i have nothing against him , my analysis might be faulty but i do trust it.

Most of the PPers judge shahzaib on the basis of T20s. Apart from that, he has done reasonably well in ODIs. Very decent. Remember, he got inconsistent run in the side. Player of the tournament of the country in a 50 over format, played one game and then dropped. Then played one and played after 9 matches in the final of the series chasing a target of over 300. One must look at the treatment he got. Technique will not matter when the runs will be flowing.

Farhat scored 21 centuries but he has been playing the FC cricket from several years.

U said that nasir was world class. I said that he hasn't done anything to be called World class. He is a good player. But not World Class at all. He debuted against zimbawbe and played all 5 matches in PAK. He then played asia or kitply cup in bagladesh. And his 50 against INDIA is on the best batting track, at NSK. The luxury nasir had in his short career is fantastic. Shahzaib didn't got these kind of opputunities at all. At the end, Nasir is not a World class player.

One must look at the treatments player get before analyzing any player to be a better one than the other.
 
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Well it does,nt makes any sense critisizing Farhat after all he scored two consecutive centuries.....his previous two innings 101 runs from 108 balls with 17 boundries and 93 strike rate....while 2nd is the current 109 of 172 balls having 16 boundries at strike rate of 63.....so plz stop criticism for the sack of criticism......@Sunny Khan.....what you think about these two innings....do you think that he had given money to the bowlers or what?
 
Why do people even compare? I will have any club cricket over the sifarshi player.

Shahzaib scored 50 on 36 deliveries against bangladesh. lol. And the less u talk about his 48 is better. He was playing for himself. Not for the team. Blazing? How can we expect it from him when he was too hesitant to touch the ball :)) :))

Take a breath and read this if u can......


On December 7, by putting on 197 runs for the opening wicket against the hapless Kiwis in the last game of the five-match ODI series at Rawalpindi, Pakistan openers, Yasir Hameed and Imran Farhat achieved something which even Desmond Haynes and Gordon Greenidge - the greatest one-day opening pair of the past – couldn’t achieve with their 15 century opening-stands Haynes and Greenidge opened for West Indies together in a period ranging from 1979 to 1991 but only once among their 102 outings, they shared a hundred run opening partnership for two consecutive limited-overs international innings. Hameed and Farhat’s immortal feat thus created a world record of being the very first instance, in the 33-year-old history of the shorter version of the game, when the same opening pair registered century stands in three or more successive innings of a side. Interestingly, there is one other occasion when century stands were shared for a side in three consecutive ODI’s but it involved three different openers. (see the table below for full details).
Curiously enough, two months ago Farhat shared three hundred partnerships in consecutive innings with Taufeeq Umar, in the two-Test series against South Africa. Now by doing the same in the other form of the game with Yasir, Imran became only the second batsman in all international cricket history, after Geoffrey Boycott of England, to be involved in atleast three successive century opening stands in both forms of the game. Boycott shared three consecutive hundred partnerships with John Edrich in the 4th and 5th Tests of the 1970-71 Ashes Series at Melbourne and Adelaide respectively. For reader’s interest the accompanying table has the complete details.

http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Articles/0/907.html
 
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Take a breath and read this if u can......


On December 7, by putting on 197 runs for the opening wicket against the hapless Kiwis in the last game of the five-match ODI series at Rawalpindi, Pakistan openers, Yasir Hameed and Imran Farhat achieved something which even Desmond Haynes and Gordon Greenidge - the greatest one-day opening pair of the past – couldn’t achieve with their 15 century opening-stands Haynes and Greenidge opened for West Indies together in a period ranging from 1979 to 1991 but only once among their 102 outings, they shared a hundred run opening partnership for two consecutive limited-overs international innings. Hameed and Farhat’s immortal feat thus created a world record of being the very first instance, in the 33-year-old history of the shorter version of the game, when the same opening pair registered century stands in three or more successive innings of a side. Interestingly, there is one other occasion when century stands were shared for a side in three consecutive ODI’s but it involved three different openers. (see the table below for full details).
Curiously enough, two months ago Farhat shared three hundred partnerships in consecutive innings with Taufeeq Umar, in the two-Test series against South Africa. Now by doing the same in the other form of the game with Yasir, Imran became only the second batsman in all international cricket history, after Geoffrey Boycott of England, to be involved in atleast three successive century opening stands in both forms of the game. Boycott shared three consecutive hundred partnerships with John Edrich in the 4th and 5th Tests of the 1970-71 Ashes Series at Melbourne and Adelaide respectively. For reader’s interest the accompanying table has the complete details.

http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Articles/0/907.html


he was a better player in early 2000s ...

But despite playing more matches than any other opener in 2000s he hasnt done anything of note

39 is big number so enuff his international chances hafeez and taufeeq are better openers ... khurram manzoor based on recent performances deserve a chance and we also need to groom Ahmed shehzad and nasir jamshed
 
hur rizvi saab im sorry to say this but ure just a haterrr,,,,,

wat has hafeez done and mr farhat has not played no where near enough as one dayers as some of the othersss,,,
yess hafeez has had a half decent come back but even after theee magicalll comeback he averages justtt 20 in 55 ODI internatinalssss how do u justifyy tht,,,, u might say with his bowling but ure not fooling n e one there my friend he he only has a handful of wickets,,, im sure even if farhat bowled tht much he would do better lol
mind u farhat does have the best 20 20 domestic bowling record then most of them,,,
and about mr taufeeq i agreee with u there he was hard done
 
imran farthat nothing but a domestic player, let him play domestic cricket forever and hopefully he'll never play for pakistan again inshallah
 
agree but not

hur rizvi saab im sorry to say this but ure just a haterrr,,,,,

wat has hafeez done and mr farhat has not played no where near enough as one dayers as some of the othersss,,,
yess hafeez has had a half decent come back but even after theee magicalll comeback he averages justtt 20 in 55 ODI internatinalssss how do u justifyy tht,,,, u might say with his bowling but ure not fooling n e one there my friend he he only has a handful of wickets,,, im sure even if farhat bowled tht much he would do better lol
mind u farhat does have the best 20 20 domestic bowling record then most of them,,,
and about mr taufeeq i agreee with u there he was hard done

well i agree with your comments about farhat but i do not think that hafeez is doing anything bad now a days......early in his carrier he was in my bad books.....but now his recent comeback is great....specially some quality strokes that he plays with confidence is awesome.......and farhat will be back soon inshALLAH.......as far as i am concerned the carrier of Imran Farhat was jolted by Mr Salahuddin Sallu(Former Selector)....Farhat was in his great form but he didnt selected him for T20 worldcup despite of several surities.....which led him to go to ICL and that was the ocassion where his carrier started to tumble.......i am feeling sorry for him that he has wasted his talent but still i am sure his days are not over....and he will make a good comeback soon...
 
Fahad Masood gets an early wicket, Anup Santosh out
 
Excellent deliveries back to back from Qureshi..

And getting nice drift as well. Great bowling..
 
:danish bowls a rubbish half tracker and beats the batsman and acts as if has bowled the delievery of the Mankind.

:))) :)))
 
Aghar once again impressive so far, the other batsman is just too slow. :afridi
 
:danish is asking for a photocopy of bowling analysis so far.

3 overs.

2 Maidens.

1 Run.
 
Take a breath and read this if u can......


On December 7, by putting on 197 runs for the opening wicket against the hapless Kiwis in the last game of the five-match ODI series at Rawalpindi, Pakistan openers, Yasir Hameed and Imran Farhat achieved something which even Desmond Haynes and Gordon Greenidge - the greatest one-day opening pair of the past – couldn’t achieve with their 15 century opening-stands Haynes and Greenidge opened for West Indies together in a period ranging from 1979 to 1991 but only once among their 102 outings, they shared a hundred run opening partnership for two consecutive limited-overs international innings. Hameed and Farhat’s immortal feat thus created a world record of being the very first instance, in the 33-year-old history of the shorter version of the game, when the same opening pair registered century stands in three or more successive innings of a side. Interestingly, there is one other occasion when century stands were shared for a side in three consecutive ODI’s but it involved three different openers. (see the table below for full details).
Curiously enough, two months ago Farhat shared three hundred partnerships in consecutive innings with Taufeeq Umar, in the two-Test series against South Africa. Now by doing the same in the other form of the game with Yasir, Imran became only the second batsman in all international cricket history, after Geoffrey Boycott of England, to be involved in atleast three successive century opening stands in both forms of the game. Boycott shared three consecutive hundred partnerships with John Edrich in the 4th and 5th Tests of the 1970-71 Ashes Series at Melbourne and Adelaide respectively. For reader’s interest the accompanying table has the complete details.

http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Articles/0/907.html

Talk about since his return from ICL. He WAS a good player.

After his return from ICL, he has been worse and wasn't selected on merit.

I will again say, i will take any club cricketer over any sifarshi player.
 
well i agree with your comments about farhat but i do not think that hafeez is doing anything bad now a days......early in his carrier he was in my bad books.....but now his recent comeback is great....specially some quality strokes that he plays with confidence is awesome.......and farhat will be back soon inshALLAH.......as far as i am concerned the carrier of Imran Farhat was jolted by Mr Salahuddin Sallu(Former Selector)....Farhat was in his great form but he didnt selected him for T20 worldcup despite of several surities.....which led him to go to ICL and that was the ocassion where his carrier started to tumble.......i am feeling sorry for him that he has wasted his talent but still i am sure his days are not over....and he will make a good comeback soon...

Whenever he will make a comeback on merit. I will be the one to support him.

Mr. Salahuddin selected Imran nazir, Hafeez and Salman Butt for that WC. How many openers will u select for an event?

He is relying on his sources rather than Hard Work.
 
^^^Oh come on why he should waste all his energy in such a useless game...only a little QEA trophy is at stake...who cares when he has Sania
 
hur rizvi saab im sorry to say this but ure just a haterrr,,,,,

wat has hafeez done and mr farhat has not played no where near enough as one dayers as some of the othersss,,,
yess hafeez has had a half decent come back but even after theee magicalll comeback he averages justtt 20 in 55 ODI internatinalssss how do u justifyy tht,,,, u might say with his bowling but ure not fooling n e one there my friend he he only has a handful of wickets,,, im sure even if farhat bowled tht much he would do better lol
mind u farhat does have the best 20 20 domestic bowling record then most of them,,,
and about mr taufeeq i agreee with u there he was hard done

Haeez was dropped when he was performing badly but since his comeback he has been good ....


and hafeez provides balance to the team , great fielder , handy offspinner and lately a handy batsman as well


I was talking about tests farhat averages 31 in 39 tests ... Is that acceptable ??

It is a fact that farhat is a sifarshi and your arguments wont change this fact

Taufeeq umar , hafeez and khurram manzoor are ahead of farhat specially lets be fair hafeez averages 32 in tests and farhat 31 there is not much difference but hafeez is better fielder and a bowler as well so he deserves more than farhat
 
Shan Masood...Future Opener Of Pakistan?! First impressions? Certainly one to keep a close eye on?
 
This Ghani chap is completely unimpressive. The basics are not even there. Got a golden duck today. The way he got bowled was foolish. I have heard that he was a good youngster and star in the making, but I can usually judge players well in all honesty and he did not look good at all. HB are on track for QEA glory unless something remarkable happens here.
 
Just got back. I met Malik and told him he played well in the first innings. He laughed sadly and said "Not in the second innings." My friend asked if that was why he looked so upset and he said "Hmm, haan... Darasal, I have a headache." Poor kiddo, I hope someone got him some chai.
 
Just got back. I met Malik and told him he played well in the first innings. He laughed sadly and said "Not in the second innings." My friend asked if that was why he looked so upset and he said "Hmm, haan... Darasal, I have a headache." Poor kiddo, I hope someone got him some chai.

Chai won't change the fact that he won't be playing in another cricket world cup.
 
Chai won't change the fact that he won't be playing in another cricket world cup.

I suppose it is kind of sad, despite all the things he's been up to since losing the captaincy. I bet he had no idea he wouldn't even be in the 30-man squad for the WC when he took over the captaincy after the "deep cleanse" post WC 2007.
 
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