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[HalBass9]

Nope .. you are wrong. Being radical and violent is the ONLY Option to survive when dealing with rogue UN-civilized and extremely predatory religions which you are batting for ( no surprises there ).


If you do not agree then feel free to list few prominent disputes involving Islam that were resolved thru civilized means.

Sure, go ahead and be a violent, radicalized bigot, did you need my blessing for that?

And what’s with declaring victory in every comment? ‘I’ve won the argument!’ absolutely, big win there especially when even you agree in this reply that Hindutva is and has to be a violent and bigoted cult. Truly a champion moment.

 

[Champ_Pal]

u mean that the stories dont add up, hence every state tells a different story, which means its fake, plus you didnt mention the fact its stolen from east africa

East Africa? Where did Africa come into the picture?

The stories of Ramayana and Mahabharata are common for all Indian cults although with some variation. Some vary vastly as in Buddhism and Jainism.

All religions are fake. It’s just a useful tool to control masses. Now don’t tell me Islam, Christianity are real and the stories in it are facts.

 

[uppercut]

lol.

Ah, the desperation is real.

You’re advocating for slaughtering 200 people over a steak, and I’m just here saying, ‘Maybe don’t, it’s kind of not humane.’

Maybe dont harm a Cow and there would be no need for this fracas ? How difficult is that to understand ehh ?

ohh wait I DO know why its difficult ... You want to normalize your Islamic extremist mindset which has ZERO tolerance for other beliefs ( especially the idolatory kind ) .


Tell me something new !

But of course, when logic fails, the go to move is calling every Muslim an ‘animal’ or a ‘Islamic extremist’, all because they had the audacity to call out a bigot for, shockingly, being a bigot.

Did you really use the big "L" word ? REALLY ?

Go ahead, play your little riddle games with yourself. Seems like you need a hobby to cope with all that frustration.

You want the right to kill humans. Lol lol lol

No riddles no games ... unlike you I don't shy away from blunt answers or run/cry when cornered.


but I'am very well aware that you are looking for a face saving cop-out but if you want a honest discussion you need to really elevate your moral compass.

 

[HalBass9]

Maybe dont harm a Cow and there would be no need for this fracas ? How difficult is that to understand ehh ?

ohh wait I DO know why its difficult ... You want to normalize your Islamic extremist mindset which has ZERO tolerance for other beliefs ( especially the idolatory kind ) .


Tell me something new !




Did you really use the big "L" word ? REALLY ?




No riddles no games ... unlike you I don't shy away from blunt answers or run/cry when cornered.


but I'am very well aware that you are looking for a face saving cop-out but if you want a honest discussion you need to really elevate your moral compass.

Oh, so asking for the right to commit massacres over a steak is just you being ‘blunt’? Sure, because nothing says straightforward like psychopathic, murderous, mentally unstable extremism. Truly a masterclass in honesty.

Lol, debating someone who thinks mass murder is a valid point? Nah, I’m just here killing time while getting a crash course in the blunt brilliance of Hindutva logic. Fascinating stuff.

 

[uppercut]

Oh, so asking for the right to commit massacres over a steak is just you being ‘blunt’? Sure, because nothing says straightforward like psychopathic, murderous, mentally unstable extremism. Truly a masterclass in honesty.

Lol, debating someone who thinks mass murder is a valid point? Nah, I’m just here killing time while getting a crash course in the blunt brilliance of Hindutva logic. Fascinating stuff.

More like YOUR right to bigotry and intolerance by deliberately killing cows despite knowing that they are sacred for Hindus ( and expecting nothing but a civilized response in return when its a known fact that this bigotry has been ongoing for Centuries ) ?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Abrahamic religions are a threat to Bharat’s Sanatani sovereignty. They have betrayed and backstabbed us in the past. It’s their fault that we’re a little bit paranoid about them.

Just because Abrahamic religions had a clear sense of their beliefs does not make them backstabbers. If Hindu religion was flexible and took many different forms down the centuries is due to it's own nature.

The fault is all Bharat's, don't blame others for your own lack of clarity.

 

[uppercut]

Just because Abrahamic religions had a clear sense of their beliefs does not make them backstabbers. If Hindu religion was flexible and took many different forms down the centuries is due to it's own nature.

The fault is all Bharat's, don't blame others for your own lack of clarity.

Then why do you cry when Hindu vigilante groups react to the bigotry ... whether its Babri Mosque or cows or Godhra ?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Then why do you cry when Hindu vigilante groups react to the bigotry ... whether its Babri Mosque or cows or Godhra ?

I don't.

 

[uppercut]

You can define it anyway you like and present any evidence you chose.

sorry I missed this post ... no it has to be you that needs to define what constitutes civilized behavior because you are the one making the accusation that the Hindu Caste system and some sort of tax is the most un-civilized thing to have happened in Human history. Clearly you have a very different yardstick to measure Civilization so lets hear it.

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[DeadlyVenom]

sorry I missed this post ... no it has to be you that needs to define what constitutes civilized behavior because you are the one making the accusation that the Hindu Caste system and some sort of tax is the most un-civilized thing to have happened in Human history. Clearly you have a very different yardstick to measure Civilization so lets hear it.

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You called Muslims uncivilised and predatory. You can use the definition you used to refer to Islam to present your case.

 

[uppercut]

You called Muslims uncivilised and predatory. You can use the definition you used to refer to Islam to present your case.

I have explained that in many posts in the recent past. The reasons are very simple... there is simply no concept of peaceful coexistence between Muslims and non-muslims at all ... especially with the Idol worshipping religions. Life is a living hell for those unfortunate idol worshippers who have to live amongst Muslims especially in the Indian subcontinent. Let me know if you need real examples of how this intolerance manifests in real life and results in catastrophic consequences for the Non Muslims.


Since you referred to hindu Caste system I will use Babasaheb Ambedkars take on Islam : There is only contempt for those who are outside the Ummah.


While the Hindu caste system was bad, the Hindu society has taken steps to reform and move forward. No such reform is possible in Islam. That's the difference.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I have explained that in many posts in the recent past. The reasons are very simple... there is simply no concept of peaceful coexistence between Muslims and non-muslims at all ... especially with the Idol worshipping religions. Life is a living hell for those unfortunate idol worshippers who have to live amongst Muslims especially in the Indian subcontinent. Let me know if you need real examples of how this intolerance manifests in real life and results in catastrophic consequences for the Non Muslims.


Since you referred to hindu Caste system I will use Babasaheb Ambedkars take on Islam : There is only contempt for those who are outside the Ummah.


While the Hindu caste system was bad, the Hindu society has taken steps to reform and move forward. No such reform is possible in Islam. That's the difference.

During the time the Hindu caste system was bad and before you guys dumped part of your religion into the trash can - was life a living hell for those Hindus who were unfortunately born into the wrong caste?
How did one escape an unfortunate circumstance of birth?

 

[guard]

Seems like all the contempt is coming from non muslims with inflammatory propaganda and using bovine creature as an excuse to propagate that..

 

[uppercut]

During the time the Hindu caste system was bad and before you guys dumped part of your religion into the trash can - was life a living hell for those Hindus who were unfortunately born into the wrong caste?

Sure but there wasn't any genocide or ethnic cleansing of non-brahmins as a result of that caste system.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Sure but there wasn't any genocide or ethnic cleansing of non-brahmins as a result of that caste system.

What was the Hindu population of India before the genocide you are referring to?

 

[uppercut]

What was the Hindu population of India before the genocide you are referring to?

The most recent genocide that I am referring to is the Kashmiri Pandit genocide of 1990 that happened in our lifetimes...lets not even bother about medieval times.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The most recent genocide that I am referring to is the Kashmiri Pandit genocide of 1990 that happened in our lifetimes...lets not even bother about medieval times.

How many people were killed in the Kashmiri pandit genocide Vs the Hindu army killing Muslims?

Please provide numbers and facts here not your own opinions.

Present your case.

 

[uppercut]

How many people were killed in the Kashmiri pandit genocide Vs the Hindu army killing Muslims?

Please provide numbers and facts here not your own opinions.

Present your case.

Roughly 300k Pandits were driven out of Kashmir. If we go back to medeval ages the numbers are staggering.... are you disputing that ?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Roughly 300k Pandits were driven out of Kashmir. If we go back to medeval ages the numbers are staggering.... are you disputing that ?

Present the numbers. Show the genocide. Make a long post detail it all out please.

We will then compare it to the Hindu caste system and see which caused more misery.

You are already agree Hindus were uncivilised 1000s of years for following this stuff. Now all that is left is a comparison.

 

[uppercut]

Present the numbers. Show the genocide. Make a long post detail it all out please.

We will then compare it to the Hindu caste system and see which caused more misery.

You are already agree Hindus were uncivilised 1000s of years for following this stuff. Now all that is left is a comparison.

Don't have to go through that exercise.... these are the facts:

1. Kashmiri Pandits were Massacred and it resulted in a mass exodus during our own lifetime. The next episode is playing out in BD.
2. Hindu society has taken steps to stop discrimination based on Caste.


These are indisputable facts. Let me know if you disagree

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Don't have to go through that exercise.... these are the facts:

1. Kashmiri Pandits were Massacred and it resulted in a mass exodus during our own lifetime. The next episode is playing out in BD.
2. Hindu society has taken steps to stop discrimination based on Caste.


These are indisputable facts. Let me know if you disagree

1. These aren't facts these are your opinions. You haven't backed it up with anything.

2. You made a very bold statement criticising Islam. I countered that mentioning the Hindu caste system. Let's make sure we are on the same page here. So to clarify you agree Hinduism was uncivilised and predatory historically ( via caste practice)? And this uncivilised and predatory behaviour was considered at the time to be religiously appropriate?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Since you referred to hindu Caste system I will use Babasaheb Ambedkars take on Islam : There is only contempt for those who are outside the Ummah.

That is Ambedkar's opinion. It doesn't make it fact.

 

[uppercut]

1. These aren't facts these are your opinions. You haven't backed it up with anything.

So you are denying the Kashmiri Pandit mass murder and exodus circa 1990 ? Pls Confirm your position.

2. You made a very bold statement criticising Islam. I countered that mentioning the Hindu caste system. Let's make sure we are on the same page here. So to clarify you agree Hinduism was uncivilised and predatory historically ( via caste practice)? And this uncivilised and predatory behaviour was considered at the time to be religiously appropriate?

The context here is modern times not what happened 1000s of years ago.

But to answer your question....There are theories on how the caste System came to be ... but there is no mention of it in Hindu holy texts. For example mahrishi Valmiki the sage who wrote Ramayan was from a lower caste.

In anycase its not like Islam doesn't have a caste system ... Shia Sunni Ahmedi etc etc ... so what is your point?

 

[uppercut]

That is Ambedkar's opinion. It doesn't make it fact.

it does based on the track record... I am very well aware of your tactic to sweep every incident of intolerance under the Carpet named " Isolated incident ".

 

[DeadlyVenom]

So you are denying the Kashmiri Pandit mass murder and exodus circa 1990 ? Pls Confirm your position.



The context here is modern times not what happened 1000s of years ago.

But to answer your question....There are theories on how the caste System came to be ... but there is no mention of it in Hindu holy texts. For example mahrishi Valmiki the sage who wrote Ramayan was from a lower caste.

In anycase its not like Islam doesn't have a caste system ... Shia Sunni Ahmedi etc etc ... so what is your point?

Mass murder and exodus or genocide? Which one do you want me to clarify as you are using different terms and each has different meanings. And how does it lininwith your statement that Islam is uncivilised and Barbaric?

Those aren't castes they are sects.

Sometimes you guys say the texts don't mean anything in Hinduism but it's community beliefs that make the religion. So your community for thousands of years agreed upon a major error and made it part of the religion despite it being uncivilised and Barbaric?

If you are saying this then we can drop this part of the discussion because we agree the Hindu caste system is an abomination and focus on your points on Islam being uncivilised.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

it does based on the track record... I am very well aware of your tactic to sweep every incident of intolerance under the Carpet named " Isolated incident ".

Ok then please prove Ambedkar's opinion that you quoted is fact. Basically Muslims hold all those outside the Ummah with contempt. Then also contrast that with how non-Muslims regard Islam with respect to prove your case.

 

[uppercut]

Mass murder and exodus or genocide? Which one do you want me to clarify as you are using different terms and each has different meanings. And how does it lininwith your statement that Islam is uncivilised and Barbaric?

however you want to officially classify the events of Jan 1990. The end result is that the entire Kashmiri Pandit community who are the original natives of Kashmir are now completely driven out of their homeland entirely due to intolerance of Islam.

The "project" took many centuries to complete, the events of 1990 was the last chapter. The previous chapters were even more horrific.

Those aren't castes they are sects.

Sometimes you guys say the texts don't mean anything in Hinduism but it's community beliefs that make the religion. So your community for thousands of years agreed upon a major error and made it part of the religion despite it being uncivilised and Barbaric?

If you are saying this then we can drop this part of the discussion because we agree the Hindu caste system is an abomination and focus on your points on Islam being uncivilised.

The end result is the same whether you call it Sect or Caste ... tomato tomaato. So what is your point ?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

however you want to officially classify the events of Jan 1990. The end result is that the entire Kashmiri Pandit community who are the original natives of Kashmir are now completely driven out of their homeland entirely due to intolerance of Islam.

The "project" took many centuries to complete, the events of 1990 was the last chapter. The previous chapters were even more horrific.




The end result is the same whether you call it Sect or Caste ... tomato tomaato. So what is your point ?

If you aren't able to define or understand basic terms there is no point to this debate.

You can't tomato tomatoo your way through discussions about religions.

 

[uppercut]

Ok then please prove Ambedkar's opinion that you quoted is fact. Basically Muslims hold all those outside the Ummah with contempt. Then also contrast that with how non-Muslims regard Islam with respect to prove your case.

Please bump the thread and respond to my post where I told you the problem arguing with dishonest people who will argue the color of sky, shape of earth just because the anonymous nature of a forum allows them to do so. If you think you can set aside your bias and make sensible responses then respond to my posts on that thread.

 

[uppercut]

If you aren't able to define or understand basic terms there is no point to this debate.

You can't tomato tomatoo your way through discussions about religions.

There is no need to go into a technical definition of terms. Then you will want a certified widely accepted definition for those terms and how the events fit that definition. I am more concerned about the net effect which is that the Kashmiri Pandit community is no longer living in their Homeland. Do you dispute that ?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Please bump the thread and respond to my post where I told you the problem arguing with dishonest people who will argue the color of sky, shape of earth just because the anonymous nature of a forum allows them to do so. If you think you can set aside your bias and make sensible responses then respond to my posts on that thread.

So once again you can't debate the topic or back up your own arguments, instead you resort to attacking the individual posters. In that case I would advise think more carefully before making rash statements.

 

[uppercut]

So once again you can't debate the topic or back up your own arguments, instead you resort to attacking the individual posters. In that case I would advise think more carefully before making rash statements.

Some examples from our past discussions: If you make deadbeat arguments like these ...

1. Indian Supreme court judges are Hindutva proponents because they are Hindus.
2. dozens and dozens of grave Islamic extremist atrocities across the world are not an indicator of any problems within Islam.
3. claim that ALL religious communities by default look at all other religious communities with contempt.
4. reputed western countries officially singling out Muslims doesn't mean anything.

etc etc etc then it becomes necessary to call out your idiotic views for what they actually are.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Ok then please prove Ambedkar's opinion that you quoted is fact. Basically Muslims hold all those outside the Ummah with contempt. Then also contrast that with how non-Muslims regard Islam with respect to prove your case.

Please answer the above if you can. Otherwise we can safely assume you make stupid claims which you cannot then back up.

 

[anikrc1]

Please answer the above if you can. Otherwise we can safely assume you make stupid claims which you cannot then back up.

Ambedkar’s View On Islam

A staunch critic of Islam who questioned Muslim Patriotism

saltpepper.medium.com

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Ambedkar’s View On Islam

A staunch critic of Islam who questioned Muslim Patriotism

saltpepper.medium.com

There is no coherent argument there.

 

[uppercut]

Please answer the above if you can. Otherwise we can safely assume you make stupid claims which you cannot then back up.

see post# 112 above.

 

[uppercut]

Please answer the above if you can. Otherwise we can safely assume you make stupid claims which you cannot then back up.

here is the thread ... where I provided numerous examples of Muslims in conflict with most major religions of the world. This is common knowledge. If you deny that basic fact the problem is entirely in your inability to acknowledge basic facts of life and at that rate you will even argue the shape of earth


Link --> https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...-a-dalit-claiming-the-same-post.316007/page-2

Here is another thread from the past where Me and @Romali_rotti provided extensive evidence to counter your deadbeat arguments about Muslims supposedly not being in conflict in Western countries.

Link --> https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...tern-civilization.307011/page-4#post-12023708

As I said on a anonymous forum there is nothing stopping you from brazenly lying thru your teeth. You might as well soon claim that the EARTH is as flat as a pancake. Go ahead you can do it

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

here is the thread ... where I provided numerous examples of Muslims in conflict with most major religions of the world. This is common knowledge. If you deny that basic fact the problem is entirely in your inability to acknowledge basic facts of life and at that rate you will even argue the shape of earth.


Link --> https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...-a-dalit-claiming-the-same-post.316007/page-2

Here is another thread from the past where Me and @Romali_rotti provided extensive evidence to counter your deadbeat arguments about Muslims supposedly not being in conflict in Western countries.

Link --> https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...tern-civilization.307011/page-4#post-12023708

As I said on a anonymous forum there is nothing stopping you from brazenly lying thru your teeth. You might as well soon claim that the EARTH is as flat as a pancake. Go ahead you can do it

All you have to do when challenged on your own statements is to answer these directly. Instead you post links to others posts or threads, or links to videos or articles claiming it has all been answered there. Or your other tactic is to attack the poster that is challenging you with pathetic insults which only showcases your inability to explain anything with your own understanding. This is why it is pointless engaging with you.

 

[uppercut]

All you have to do when challenged on your own statements is to answer these directly​

Believe me, there’s a much simpler solution. All you need to do is grasp these two revolutionary concepts: honesty and integrity. I know, they probably sound like alien, high-tech gadgets straight out of a sci-fi movie to you, but they typically come standard with the basic human operating system—unless, of course, you’re stuck in the 18th century. In that case, God help you. Or maybe your model shipped with a factory defect and a refusal to update, but hey, never give up hope!

I wish I could help you, but sadly, there are no courses on “Advanced Techniques in Basic Decency, Honesty, and Integrity.” Even if there were, I’d wager you’d fail the admissions test—it only requires a rudimentary grasp of reality. You know, simple things like determining whether the Earth is round, flat, or shaped like your logic: completely nonexistent.

Add a pinch of discipline, critical thinking, and logical deduction, and voilà—you might just claw your way out of the troll pit. Who knows! You might even become marginally worthy of my time and considerate enough to stop wasting bandwidth. Dare to dream, and you might even catch a fleeting glimpse of relevance and self-respect for the first time in your life. God speed A-o-A !!

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[DeadlyVenom]

All you have to do when challenged on your own statements is to answer these directly. Instead you post links to others posts or threads, or links to videos or articles claiming it has all been answered there. Or your other tactic is to attack the poster that is challenging you with pathetic insults which only showcases your inability to explain anything with your own understanding. This is why it is pointless engaging with you.

The answer is he doesn't know what he is talking about. He doesn't have any grounding in religious discussions or really any understanding of religion or history.

When he equated caste - a central concept in Hinduism with sects in Islam is when I realised he is a graduate from BJP WhatsApp university.

I will wait for cricketcartoons to return so I can discuss the savagery of the hindu caste system with someone sensible.

 

[RexRex]

The answer is he doesn't know what he is talking about. He doesn't have any grounding in religious discussions or really any understanding of religion or history.

When he equated caste - a central concept in Hinduism with sects in Islam is when I realised he is a graduate from BJP WhatsApp university.

I will wait for cricketcartoons to return so I can discuss the savagery of the hindu caste system with someone sensible.

alas .. when it comes to discussions like these, @uppercut promises a lot but delivers very little. I've had similiar experiences.

 

[uppercut]

When he equated caste - a central concept in Hinduism with sects in Islam ...

Go ahead provide a source to back that up.

and don't shy away from explaining how the Jan 1990 episode is more civilized than the caste system.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

alas .. when it comes to discussions like these, @uppercut promises a lot but delivers very little. I've had similiar experiences.

Nice pun given the thread content.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Go ahead provide a source to back that up.

and don't shy away from explaining how the Jan 1990 episode is more civilized than the caste system.

In some threads you say Hinduism doesn't have sources but now you want a source.

What were you guys doing for those 1000s of years when caste was being practiced? Were all those gurus and Hindu teachers alive at the time actually Muslims in disguise?

 

[uppercut]

In some threads you say Hinduism doesn't have sources

lets see these threads.

 

[uppercut]

What were you guys doing for those 1000s of years when caste was being practiced? Were all those gurus and Hindu teachers alive at the time actually Muslims in disguise?

As explained explicitly earlier we are talking about modern times. Doesn't matter what happened 1000s of years ago for both Islam and Hinduism.

But if you insist ( which you will not as it will compromise your stance but dont let me stop you) Hinduism provided shelter for Zoroastrians and thousand+ years later they are still thriving in the evil BJP ruled India as of today in a supposedly very "uncivilized" Hindu society per your theory.

No prizes for guessing the ancestral homeland of the Zoroastrians ( otherwise known as Parsi's ) and why they got evicted from there (Sound familiar?).


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[uppercut]

alas .. when it comes to discussions like these, @uppercut promises a lot but delivers very little. I've had similiar experiences.

Hang in there champ .... pretty soon the resident Jihadi's and their minions will enlighten you as to how the Kashmiri Pandits were evicted for their own good and in line with civilized norms. If you are lucky you might receive enlightenment on how the Hindu caste system was much more uncivilized in comparison.

And if you are Lucky you might also get to know how the War in Syria is between Muslims and erm perhaps the evil Martians.

And if you are REAAAALY lucky you might get a similar explanation for the situation in Bangladesh​

And if you are REAAAALY REAAAALYlucky you might get a similar explanation for the 1971 genocide

And if you are REAAAALY REAAAALY REAAAALY lucky you might get a similar explanation for ... ( you get the drift )

Stay tuned and feel free to directly ask me any questions because most likely your buddy has checked out as suspected.

 

[big_gamer007]

The more unemployment rises, the more youth will turn to these fringe right wing groups for petty money, power and crime.

These incidents will continue to happen and will probably rise in numbers in future.

Unfortunately for Indian people there is no leader/party which has the balls, wits and commitment to work on development of the nation and its people, impose laws and ensure safety and security for all its people.