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For far too long our players have had this huge inferiority complex vis a vis the Indian players and you can tell by the recent results that it definately plays a huge role in our lack of confidence when we turn up in the field and our defensive strategies.

I propose that the coaching staff and even the captain try something different now. Instruct the players to play with anger, instruct them to take any comments the Indian players and Indian ex-players make vis a vis the Pakistani players in the media personally.

Even players like Ravi Shastri, Ganguly have very little respect for the present Pakistani team and do not consider it a decent side at all. I mean look at the way the Indian anchor made fun of Akhtar to his face and the way Sehwag constantly troll's Akhtar and reminds him about his and Tendulkar's superior record against him.

It is inexcusable for Kohli to have such a consistently good record against us. The Pakistani players need to be reminded that they are playing for their country, the respect of an entire nation is on their shoulders, that they seriously need to be determined and need to have this mindset that they are going to war on the field and that they need to use the fact that they are serious underdogs to their advantage and dive around the field as if their life depends on it, the bowlers need to be told to react to any 4 or 6 in anger, batsmen need to be told to be ruthless against the weaker bowlers and if they are hitting the ball well then they need to ruthlessly make the most of it.

Anything to infuse some energy, self belief into the Pakistani team vis a vis India Imran Khan Style.

Feel free to offer other suggestions.
 
They need to take out the fear of losing from their minds. The result doesn't matter. What matters is to fight like tigers and not give an inch to their opponents. Play positive fearless cricket.
 
India has to play bad to lose from Pakistan. There is a massive difference between quality of sides.
Gambhir
Uthappa
Pant
Samson
Raina

These batsmen are quite similar to quality of Paksitan main side and they are not even selected.
 
When an opponent is better than you, fear has little to no part to make a difference.

Sure the odd match will have sheer will and determination winning, but talent supersedes all.
 
The numbers gap is so huge that discussion on anything else is a waste of time
 
Ever since I was watching cricket as a young fan from 2011, India was by far the strongest team I've seen from whoever Pak play, so obviously I never grew up watching Pak smack India on a regular basis in the 90's since I never grew up in that time period. The gap is so huge in terms of playing quality that it's so horrible to watch, like our batsman potter along in T20's and can't pierce India's fielders. Really do hope that we get back to our winning ways against India, just because they have the largest fanbase in the world, the most scrutinising fanbase in the world, most advanced coaching and management, richest cricket board in BCCI would still mean that they are just like any other team. Obviously no disrespect to India or their fans as I admire their cricket and professionalism a lot which was supposedly non-existent in the 90's.

Just got to realise that Kohli is a human being like us; consists of a head, two arms and two legs. Plan against him like you plan against players like SA's cricketers for example and you'll get the same result via using different methods of bowling. We've been smacked enough times for us to lose this fear against India anyways, we should just go there and fight it out.
 
YEs they need to play with jazba should have enough motivation and focus not to be bogged down by situations i know its easy to write these things but they are professional player
 
Why not just win games based on skills alone? Take catches etc
 
Pakistan has a mental block against India. They come into the match thinking that they have already lost. With hacks like Shehzad, Asad,Azhar and Hafeez in the team, this fear is not going away any time soon.
 
Both teams have a gulf in class atm it was like opposite in 90s was watching a Sharjah Cup game of 1999 on PTV yesterday the lineups were

ANwar
Afridi
Ijaz
Inzi
Moyo
Wasim
Moin
Azhar
Saqlain
Arshad
Akhtar


Compare that to INdia's

Ramesh
Ganguly
Dravid
Azhar
Jadeja
Robin S
Mongia
Kumble
Joshi
Prasad
Srinath


PAkistan scored 270 odd while India just managed 160ish even 4 wickets in hand just goes on to show how mentally fragile and timid on the field they were its opposite now :facepalm:

Scorecard http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65776.html

heck while checking the scorecard saw the final's scorecard and we decimated the Inndians even by bigger margins those were days i am fortunate enough to have watched these games live

Final Scorecard
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65781.html
 
Both teams have a gulf in class atm it was like opposite in 90s was watching a Sharjah Cup game of 1999 on PTV yesterday the lineups were

ANwar
Afridi
Ijaz
Inzi
Moyo
Wasim
Moin
Azhar
Saqlain
Arshad
Akhtar


Compare that to INdia's

Ramesh
Ganguly
Dravid
Azhar
Jadeja
Robin S
Mongia
Kumble
Joshi
Prasad
Srinath


PAkistan scored 270 odd while India just managed 160ish even 4 wickets in hand just goes on to show how mentally fragile and timid on the field they were its opposite now :facepalm:

Scorecard http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65776.html

heck while checking the scorecard saw the final's scorecard and we decimated the Inndians even by bigger margins those were days i am fortunate enough to have watched these games live

Final Scorecard
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65781.html

Didn't the same team beat Pakistan in WC 2 months laster?
 
For far too long our players have had this huge inferiority complex vis a vis the Indian players and you can tell by the recent results that it definately plays a huge role in our lack of confidence when we turn up in the field and our defensive strategies.

I propose that the coaching staff and even the captain try something different now. Instruct the players to play with anger, instruct them to take any comments the Indian players and Indian ex-players make vis a vis the Pakistani players in the media personally.

Even players like Ravi Shastri, Ganguly have very little respect for the present Pakistani team and do not consider it a decent side at all. I mean look at the way the Indian anchor made fun of Akhtar to his face and the way Sehwag constantly troll's Akhtar and reminds him about his and Tendulkar's superior record against him.

It is inexcusable for Kohli to have such a consistently good record against us. The Pakistani players need to be reminded that they are playing for their country, the respect of an entire nation is on their shoulders, that they seriously need to be determined and need to have this mindset that they are going to war on the field and that they need to use the fact that they are serious underdogs to their advantage and dive around the field as if their life depends on it, the bowlers need to be told to react to any 4 or 6 in anger, batsmen need to be told to be ruthless against the weaker bowlers and if they are hitting the ball well then they need to ruthlessly make the most of it.

Anything to infuse some energy, self belief into the Pakistani team vis a vis India Imran Khan Style.

Feel free to offer other suggestions.

Actually, its thinking like this that leads to that pressure.

The respect of the nation is not on the Indian players. We will not lose any respect just because we lose a game of cricket. Its just a game of cricket and and I hope that is how the Indians play cricket.
 
I can see too much pressure already building up in the media and pak fans.

Add to the fact that the crowd would be crazy at the venue.. apart from skill and talent it's also a game of Nerves and the Experience of performing under these conditions
 
I'll say the current Indian Team is definitely more experienced, professional and play with a calmer head.

Skill wise I would say even pakistan is same. They just need more experience and encouragement
 
Who said???!!!
Pakistan players never feared india. No way. Only one time i see patrotism in Pak players and that is against ind match.
 
In all honesty, the brand of cricket we play is years behind to what modern day cricket is. Unfortunately politics, liking disliking, internal affairs and no international cricket in pakistan has hampered its progress.
As far the game agaisnt india is concerned, hands down india is a far superior team and deservingly so but if we have any chance to win this game we'll have to think out of the box, catch india on the wrong foot, if it was me i would have gone with the fresh blood that we have from the team rather than the play experienced men we have (azhar ali, ahmed shehzad, professor) since their experience is worthless. Honestly the young blood hasnt faced india yet, so there is no history for them. We're gonna lose the match anyway so how much more worse could it get, might as well give the new guys a chance to express themselves and maybe we could surprise the opponent. I am lookig forward to sarfaraz's captaincy.
 
Both sarfaraz and virat have been under19 worldcup winning captains. So it will be interesting to see how it pans out.
 
For far too long our players have had this huge inferiority complex vis a vis the Indian players and you can tell by the recent results that it definately plays a huge role in our lack of confidence when we turn up in the field and our defensive strategies.

I propose that the coaching staff and even the captain try something different now. Instruct the players to play with anger, instruct them to take any comments the Indian players and Indian ex-players make vis a vis the Pakistani players in the media personally.

Even players like Ravi Shastri, Ganguly have very little respect for the present Pakistani team and do not consider it a decent side at all. I mean look at the way the Indian anchor made fun of Akhtar to his face and the way Sehwag constantly troll's Akhtar and reminds him about his and Tendulkar's superior record against him.

It is inexcusable for Kohli to have such a consistently good record against us. The Pakistani players need to be reminded that they are playing for their country, the respect of an entire nation is on their shoulders, that they seriously need to be determined and need to have this mindset that they are going to war on the field and that they need to use the fact that they are serious underdogs to their advantage and dive around the field as if their life depends on it, the bowlers need to be told to react to any 4 or 6 in anger, batsmen need to be told to be ruthless against the weaker bowlers and if they are hitting the ball well then they need to ruthlessly make the most of it.

Anything to infuse some energy, self belief into the Pakistani team vis a vis India Imran Khan Style.

Feel free to offer other suggestions.

Whether they fear or not do you think,this team will win against Bangladesh, let alone India.

Azhar, Shehzad, Babar and Hafeez as top 4.

5, 6 and 7(where u need hitters) are occupied by Malik, Sarfraz Imad.

In other words accmulators from 1-7.

And coming to the bowling Amir and Hassan are good.

Wahab and Junaid??

The land that has industry of fast bowlers, conceded 444.
 
It has nothing to do with fear. Pakistan in recent years were competitive only because of a couple of spinners with illegal actions. Once they were removed, the team's frailties were exposed by others. Also the 2 new ball has hurt the Pakistan team more than others as it has taken reverse completely out of the equation. Nowadays you need explosive batting lineups or tall fast bowlers to hit the deck hard(OZ) to be successful. Pakistan have neither at the moment which is why they are struggling to win.
 
Fear comes from the strength and might of opposition. India has been simply a lot better than Pakistan in all 3 departments for quite some time now.If Pakistan beats India,i shall count it as an upset.
 
There isn't any fear, India just have better players than us like Australia, South Africa and England.
 
just do not play for a respectable loss. let it be do or die thing.. fortunes will change
 
What fear . India have gone into India /Pakistan matches as favourites in the last few years quite easily.
Its a credit to pakistan that the likes of shoaib malik have stepped up and won Pakistan some of these games .
Certainly no fear here . A team lower down in the rankings has nothing to fear.
 
There isn't any fear, India just have better players than us like Australia, South Africa and England.

Give others chance to comment vai. 6 comments in a row in different threads one by one at a time.Kamal kar dia tune vai :stokes
 
To beat India, you have to beat us in our own game.

You know when India snatches victory? In middle overs. We always look for singles and turn 1 into 2s.

The only team capable of doing that (even better) is Australia and do we'll always struggle against them.

With Pakistan, it's easy. Just soak up the 4s and 6s and self destruction will be initiated under panic.
 
I feel facing India is the biggest occasion for Pakistan players, and they just don't have what it takes to absorb that pressure and perform to the best of their abilities.
 
its about getting into that mental zone where you can play without feeling the pressure. In the past our teams were superior to India but in WC games idk the pressure used to get to our players but nowadays its both a mental and a quality issue as our team in LOIs is far behind India. But being lesser team doesnt mean u cant raise your game against your biggest rival u see it football all the time when a lesser team beats their rivals in a local derby because they play to a much higher level than they do normally.

But with us now we seem to perform even under our already average levels in LOI cricket when facing India in LOI tournaments recently.
 
Pak will demolish India this time around. I've no hope with the current Indian loi side which is filled with players who have past their prime a long time ago.
 
For far too long our players have had this huge inferiority complex vis a vis the Indian players and you can tell by the recent results that it definately plays a huge role in our lack of confidence when we turn up in the field and our defensive strategies.

I propose that the coaching staff and even the captain try something different now. Instruct the players to play with anger, instruct them to take any comments the Indian players and Indian ex-players make vis a vis the Pakistani players in the media personally.

Even players like Ravi Shastri, Ganguly have very little respect for the present Pakistani team and do not consider it a decent side at all. I mean look at the way the Indian anchor made fun of Akhtar to his face and the way Sehwag constantly troll's Akhtar and reminds him about his and Tendulkar's superior record against him.

It is inexcusable for Kohli to have such a consistently good record against us. The Pakistani players need to be reminded that they are playing for their country, the respect of an entire nation is on their shoulders, that they seriously need to be determined and need to have this mindset that they are going to war on the field and that they need to use the fact that they are serious underdogs to their advantage and dive around the field as if their life depends on it, the bowlers need to be told to react to any 4 or 6 in anger, batsmen need to be told to be ruthless against the weaker bowlers and if they are hitting the ball well then they need to ruthlessly make the most of it.

Anything to infuse some energy, self belief into the Pakistani team vis a vis India Imran Khan Style.

Feel free to offer other suggestions.

They just need to be reminded that its a GAME of cricket, which will end in 7 hrs.

Stay relaxed, stay focused and play well.
 
Pak players know that Indian players are more talented and a lot fitter than them. Hence the inferiority complex.

Indian players had the same feeling about Pak players back in 90's.

That being said, this Indian batting lineup is an inflated balloon. Very fragile.

If Rohit and Kohli fail, India will not score more than 200.
 
Imagine Shehzad and company seeing Kohli or Dhoni a few feet away from them. I think they get so starstruck that adha match wahin pe haar jaate hai.

This scene from MS Dhoni movie really tells you where this mental battle is lost. :kohli

 
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OP - Is there any proof of this supposed 'fear' or you are claiming it out of think air?
 
There isn't any fear,the nerves which come with any Indo-Pak match gets the better of our current crop of players.And the quality of the Indian players is higher than ours,of course.
 
There isn't any fear,the nerves which come with any Indo-Pak match gets the better of our current crop of players.

'Nerves' is a better explanation, but I have seen Pakistan losing lots of games for this reason against all teams so it's not about India.

Some one can plot Pakistan's ranking for the last 10 years in ODI and you can see some trend. It has nothing to do with India or any one specific team. How many fans would have thought that Pakistan will in 8-9th range team?

Having said that, Pakistan is good enough team to beat anyone in one game and many PPers are making too much out of one game against India.
 
It's a mental block. But the fact that their team is better in all departments doesn't help either. Especially on a flat track they will smash us for 300+ and we will struggle to score even 240.

I really hope Birmingham will have some swing/seam movement as that could work in our favor and we could chase something under 220.
 
First and foremost, the men in green must enter the field thinking that they are the superior side, and not India. Put aside World Cup defeats, bilateral defeats, and all other negatives that have occurred against India. Put aside all the other negativity that has been surrounding this Pakistan side of late - be it fixing, cheating, losing, etc. - put it all aside. Forget that we are ranked 8th. Rankings don't matter; all we need is to have one good day. 8 good hours of ruthless, aggressive, quality cricket. 100 good overs. June 4th is a new day. A new dawn. A new opportunity.

Focus on all the positives. Pakistan is a side that has historically dominated India. The head-to-head record is in favour of India. The Champions Trophy record, which is the most relevant record at the moment, favours Pakistan. In 2009 when the two sides met, Pakistan were victorious. Yes, a side that included the likes of Younis Khan, Kamran Akmal, the recently unfit Umar Akmal, the previously banned Saeed Ajmal, the out-of-touch Umar Gul, the unpredictable Shahid Afridi, the forgotten Rana Naved, and the unfulfilled talent Imran Nazir managed to defeat a star-studded Indian side which included the likes of Gautam Gambhir, Virat Kohli, MS Dhoni, Suresh Raina, and undisputed legends such as Rahul Dravid and Sachin Tendulkar. What's stopping us now?

How about the 2012 Aane Do series? We made a trip to India's backyard, and just like that, defeated them with a young/inexperienced fast-bowling pair and a youngster opening the batting for us. Junaid Khan. Remember Junaid Khan? He was merely 22 years of age when he wrecked havoc in Chennai and Kolkata. 5 years down the road, Junaid, now with more experience under his belt, has the chance to show the Indian side what he's made of once again.

Wahab Riaz, who is arguably our "weak link" in the pace attack right now himself has caused tension in India previously. Those five wickets he took in Mohali must still be on the back of the minds of all 1.2 billion viewers scattered across the country that were glued to the screen on that day. Here we are, 6 years down the road. Wahab has another opportunity to cause similar damage, if not worse.

Who won 3 years ago when the two sides met? Ask Ahmed Shehzad. He was there. He chipped in with a very handy 42 (44) in that chase, where Pakistan once again one-upped India. 3 years on, Shehzad is still there. He knows he has done it before. He knows he can do it again.

What about Mohammad Hafeez? I remember him having a great time in the T20I leg of the Aane Do series. Surely, one cannot say with a straight face that Hafeez had the fear of India while playing those knocks? Those crispy drives, those cuts. I don't think that was a timid or scared batsman. Of course, no one's stopping Hafeez from doing that on June 4th. He has every chance to repeat such performances and there's absolutely NO one stopping him.

Oh, have I forgotten the man who has eaten the Indian attack for breakfast, lunch, and dinner all these years? Yes, I'm speaking of Shoaib Malik. I'm sure everyone, including our Indian brethren will acknowledge that Malik was and is a major threat come June 4th. Yes, this is man whose top 3 high scores in ODIs have all come against the same cricket team he'll be facing off against next Saturday at Edgbaston. Who forgot about the 143 in Colombo? If so, shall I remind you of the 128 in Centurion? Don't remember that either? Fine, there's no way you forgot about the 125* in Karachi, or the 108 in Lahore, or the 95 in Pindi, or the 90 in Peshawar. The 89 in Jaipur and the 75 in Jamshedpur weren't shabby knocks, either. Yup, these were all runs scored by Malik, against none other than India. He'll be there next Saturday. He's not going anywhere.

This is the same nation that has produced legends. Imran Khan wore the same star on his jersey that each one of our XI men will be wearing at Edgbaston. Shoaib Akhtar ripped apart batting line-ups with the same chand tara on his jersey that Hasan Ali will be wearing. The same chand tara that Mohammad Amir, Junaid Khan, Wahab Riaz, Fahim Ashraf, Imad Wasim, Shadab Khan - whichever 5 of them play, will be wearing. Undisputed legends and greats of the game such as Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Inzamam-ul-Haq, and even the recent retirees Younis Khan and Misbah-ul-Haq are all gentlemen that were born on the same soil and served the same nation as Sarfraz Ahmed and co. What exactly, then, is stopping Sarfraz and his men from achieving the same feat as their predecessors?

This is not the time for fear, lads. This is the time to become a hero. This is the time for youngsters like Fakhar Zaman, Hasan Ali, Shadab Khan, Fahim Ashraf, and Babar Azam (whichever one of them play) to show the world what they, i.e. Pakistanis can do. This is the time for the likes of Mohammad Hafeez, Shoaib Malik, and Sarfraz Ahmed to step up and guide the youngsters, and spur them on towards success. There is no need to be afraid. Pakistan, throughout history has beaten India more than India has beaten Pakistan. Pakistan is capable of doing what other teams cannot do. The matchwinners are there. The hunger and passion is there. What then is there to be scared of?

Go out their, Green shirts. Go play. Don't worry about anything. Here's a tip: make sure to blast a few national songs on the team bus, on the way to Edgbaston. Play on Dil Dil Pakistan. Play on Jazba Junoon, because plenty of that will be required on June 4th. There is nothing to be afraid of. You are playing for Pakistan, the nation that has produced many legends and many breathtaking, miraculous performances over the years.

Give it your all, and all the best. You will win. Keep believing.

Pakistan Zindabad.

Pakistan-vs-India-Semi-Final-World-Cup-2011-09.jpg
 
There's no fear of India. OP is delusional. Pak beat India in 2009 and in Asia Cup. Pakistan lose because of their poor batting they're noway intimidated by overrated indian team who rely on one man show to save them.
 
first and foremost, the men in green must enter the field thinking that they are the superior side, and not india. Put aside world cup defeats, bilateral defeats, and all other negatives that have occurred against india. Put aside all the other negativity that has been surrounding this pakistan side of late - be it fixing, cheating, losing, etc. - put it all aside. Forget that we are ranked 8th. Rankings don't matter; all we need is to have one good day. 8 good hours of ruthless, aggressive, quality cricket. 100 good overs. June 4th is a new day. A new dawn. A new opportunity.

Focus on all the positives. Pakistan is a side that has historically dominated india. The head-to-head record is in favour of india. The champions trophy record, which is the most relevant record at the moment, favours pakistan. In 2009 when the two sides met, pakistan were victorious. Yes, a side that included the likes of younis khan, kamran akmal, the recently unfit umar akmal, the previously banned saeed ajmal, the out-of-touch umar gul, the unpredictable shahid afridi, the forgotten rana naved, and the unfulfilled talent imran nazir managed to defeat a star-studded indian side which included the likes of gautam gambhir, virat kohli, ms dhoni, suresh raina, and undisputed legends such as rahul dravid and sachin tendulkar. What's stopping us now?

How about the 2012 aane do series? We made a trip to india's backyard, and just like that, defeated them with a young/inexperienced fast-bowling pair and a youngster opening the batting for us. Junaid khan. Remember junaid khan? He was merely 22 years of age when he wrecked havoc in chennai and kolkata. 5 years down the road, junaid, now with more experience under his belt, has the chance to show the indian side what he's made of once again.

Wahab riaz, who is arguably our "weak link" in the pace attack right now himself has caused tension in india previously. Those five wickets he took in mohali must still be on the back of the minds of all 1.2 billion viewers scattered across the country that were glued to the screen on that day. Here we are, 6 years down the road. Wahab has another opportunity to cause similar damage, if not worse.

Who won 3 years ago when the two sides met? Ask ahmed shehzad. He was there. He chipped in with a very handy 42 (44) in that chase, where pakistan once again one-upped india. 3 years on, shehzad is still there. He knows he has done it before. He knows he can do it again.

What about mohammad hafeez? I remember him having a great time in the t20i leg of the aane do series. Surely, one cannot say with a straight face that hafeez had the fear of india while playing those knocks? Those crispy drives, those cuts. I don't think that was a timid or scared batsman. Of course, no one's stopping hafeez from doing that on june 4th. He has every chance to repeat such performances and there's absolutely no one stopping him.

Oh, have i forgotten the man who has eaten the indian attack for breakfast, lunch, and dinner all these years? Yes, i'm speaking of shoaib malik. I'm sure everyone, including our indian brethren will acknowledge that malik was and is a major threat come june 4th. Yes, this is man whose top 3 high scores in odis have all come against the same cricket team he'll be facing off against next saturday at edgbaston. Who forgot about the 143 in colombo? If so, shall i remind you of the 128 in centurion? Don't remember that either? Fine, there's no way you forgot about the 125* in karachi, or the 108 in lahore, or the 95 in pindi, or the 90 in peshawar. The 89 in jaipur and the 75 in jamshedpur weren't shabby knocks, either. Yup, these were all runs scored by malik, against none other than india. He'll be there next saturday. He's not going anywhere.

This is the same nation that has produced legends. Imran khan wore the same star on his jersey that each one of our xi men will be wearing at edgbaston. Shoaib akhtar ripped apart batting line-ups with the same chand tara on his jersey that hasan ali will be wearing. The same chand tara that mohammad amir, junaid khan, wahab riaz, fahim ashraf, imad wasim, shadab khan - whichever 5 of them play, will be wearing. Undisputed legends and greats of the game such as wasim akram, waqar younis, inzamam-ul-haq, and even the recent retirees younis khan and misbah-ul-haq are all gentlemen that were born on the same soil and served the same nation as sarfraz ahmed and co. What exactly, then, is stopping sarfraz and his men from achieving the same feat as their predecessors?

This is not the time for fear, lads. This is the time to become a hero. This is the time for youngsters like fakhar zaman, hasan ali, shadab khan, fahim ashraf, and babar azam (whichever one of them play) to show the world what they, i.e. Pakistanis can do. This is the time for the likes of mohammad hafeez, shoaib malik, and sarfraz ahmed to step up and guide the youngsters, and spur them on towards success. There is no need to be afraid. Pakistan, throughout history has beaten india more than india has beaten pakistan. Pakistan is capable of doing what other teams cannot do. The matchwinners are there. The hunger and passion is there. What then is there to be scared of?

Go out their, green shirts. Go play. Don't worry about anything. Here's a tip: Make sure to blast a few national songs on the team bus, on the way to edgbaston. Play on dil dil pakistan. Play on jazba junoon, because plenty of that will be required on june 4th. There is nothing to be afraid of. You are playing for pakistan, the nation that has produced many legends and many breathtaking, miraculous performances over the years.

Give it your all, and all the best. You will win. Keep believing.

Pakistan zindabad.

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Lol fear isn't the Pakistani way. Nerves yes, but fear definitely not.
 
Fear, nerves or whatever .... comes into play only when we bat First and that too with the openers Only !!! After things settle down a little we are OK. But if we loose the openers early .... then the body begins to cool down rapidly .... unfortunate .... but true.
 
Not fear but nervousness is the biggest enemy of Pakistani players.
Just watch the 2007 t20 bowl out between India and Pakistan.
The world famous bowlers like Umar gul, Afridi, Arafat could not hit open stumps! Even before bowling a single ball, one could easily say looking at the pakistani players that they were tensed. The look on the faces were epic. Gul was about to cry lol.
Whereas the Indian camp was chilled out, every one was smiling and having fun.
Result : Even Part timers like Uttappa did what T20 great Umar gul could not do.
 
Actually, its thinking like this that leads to that pressure.

The respect of the nation is not on the Indian players. We will not lose any respect just because we lose a game of cricket. Its just a game of cricket and and I hope that is how the Indians play cricket.

+1 Agree.

Have to take it like any other game.
 
First and foremost, the men in green must enter the field thinking that they are the superior side, and not India. Put aside World Cup defeats, bilateral defeats, and all other negatives that have occurred against India. Put aside all the other negativity that has been surrounding this Pakistan side of late - be it fixing, cheating, losing, etc. - put it all aside. Forget that we are ranked 8th. Rankings don't matter; all we need is to have one good day. 8 good hours of ruthless, aggressive, quality cricket. 100 good overs. June 4th is a new day. A new dawn. A new opportunity.

Focus on all the positives. Pakistan is a side that has historically dominated India. The head-to-head record is in favour of India. The Champions Trophy record, which is the most relevant record at the moment, favours Pakistan. In 2009 when the two sides met, Pakistan were victorious. Yes, a side that included the likes of Younis Khan, Kamran Akmal, the recently unfit Umar Akmal, the previously banned Saeed Ajmal, the out-of-touch Umar Gul, the unpredictable Shahid Afridi, the forgotten Rana Naved, and the unfulfilled talent Imran Nazir managed to defeat a star-studded Indian side which included the likes of Gautam Gambhir, Virat Kohli, MS Dhoni, Suresh Raina, and undisputed legends such as Rahul Dravid and Sachin Tendulkar. What's stopping us now?

How about the 2012 Aane Do series? We made a trip to India's backyard, and just like that, defeated them with a young/inexperienced fast-bowling pair and a youngster opening the batting for us. Junaid Khan. Remember Junaid Khan? He was merely 22 years of age when he wrecked havoc in Chennai and Kolkata. 5 years down the road, Junaid, now with more experience under his belt, has the chance to show the Indian side what he's made of once again.

Wahab Riaz, who is arguably our "weak link" in the pace attack right now himself has caused tension in India previously. Those five wickets he took in Mohali must still be on the back of the minds of all 1.2 billion viewers scattered across the country that were glued to the screen on that day. Here we are, 6 years down the road. Wahab has another opportunity to cause similar damage, if not worse.

Who won 3 years ago when the two sides met? Ask Ahmed Shehzad. He was there. He chipped in with a very handy 42 (44) in that chase, where Pakistan once again one-upped India. 3 years on, Shehzad is still there. He knows he has done it before. He knows he can do it again.

What about Mohammad Hafeez? I remember him having a great time in the T20I leg of the Aane Do series. Surely, one cannot say with a straight face that Hafeez had the fear of India while playing those knocks? Those crispy drives, those cuts. I don't think that was a timid or scared batsman. Of course, no one's stopping Hafeez from doing that on June 4th. He has every chance to repeat such performances and there's absolutely NO one stopping him.

Oh, have I forgotten the man who has eaten the Indian attack for breakfast, lunch, and dinner all these years? Yes, I'm speaking of Shoaib Malik. I'm sure everyone, including our Indian brethren will acknowledge that Malik was and is a major threat come June 4th. Yes, this is man whose top 3 high scores in ODIs have all come against the same cricket team he'll be facing off against next Saturday at Edgbaston. Who forgot about the 143 in Colombo? If so, shall I remind you of the 128 in Centurion? Don't remember that either? Fine, there's no way you forgot about the 125* in Karachi, or the 108 in Lahore, or the 95 in Pindi, or the 90 in Peshawar. The 89 in Jaipur and the 75 in Jamshedpur weren't shabby knocks, either. Yup, these were all runs scored by Malik, against none other than India. He'll be there next Saturday. He's not going anywhere.

This is the same nation that has produced legends. Imran Khan wore the same star on his jersey that each one of our XI men will be wearing at Edgbaston. Shoaib Akhtar ripped apart batting line-ups with the same chand tara on his jersey that Hasan Ali will be wearing. The same chand tara that Mohammad Amir, Junaid Khan, Wahab Riaz, Fahim Ashraf, Imad Wasim, Shadab Khan - whichever 5 of them play, will be wearing. Undisputed legends and greats of the game such as Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Inzamam-ul-Haq, and even the recent retirees Younis Khan and Misbah-ul-Haq are all gentlemen that were born on the same soil and served the same nation as Sarfraz Ahmed and co. What exactly, then, is stopping Sarfraz and his men from achieving the same feat as their predecessors?

This is not the time for fear, lads. This is the time to become a hero. This is the time for youngsters like Fakhar Zaman, Hasan Ali, Shadab Khan, Fahim Ashraf, and Babar Azam (whichever one of them play) to show the world what they, i.e. Pakistanis can do. This is the time for the likes of Mohammad Hafeez, Shoaib Malik, and Sarfraz Ahmed to step up and guide the youngsters, and spur them on towards success. There is no need to be afraid. Pakistan, throughout history has beaten India more than India has beaten Pakistan. Pakistan is capable of doing what other teams cannot do. The matchwinners are there. The hunger and passion is there. What then is there to be scared of?

Go out their, Green shirts. Go play. Don't worry about anything. Here's a tip: make sure to blast a few national songs on the team bus, on the way to Edgbaston. Play on Dil Dil Pakistan. Play on Jazba Junoon, because plenty of that will be required on June 4th. There is nothing to be afraid of. You are playing for Pakistan, the nation that has produced many legends and many breathtaking, miraculous performances over the years.

Give it your all, and all the best. You will win. Keep believing.

Pakistan Zindabad.

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First and foremost, the men in green must enter the field thinking that they are the superior side, and not India. Put aside World Cup defeats, bilateral defeats, and all other negatives that have occurred against India. Put aside all the other negativity that has been surrounding this Pakistan side of late - be it fixing, cheating, losing, etc. - put it all aside. Forget that we are ranked 8th. Rankings don't matter; all we need is to have one good day. 8 good hours of ruthless, aggressive, quality cricket. 100 good overs. June 4th is a new day. A new dawn. A new opportunity.

Focus on all the positives. Pakistan is a side that has historically dominated India. The head-to-head record is in favour of India. The Champions Trophy record, which is the most relevant record at the moment, favours Pakistan. In 2009 when the two sides met, Pakistan were victorious. Yes, a side that included the likes of Younis Khan, Kamran Akmal, the recently unfit Umar Akmal, the previously banned Saeed Ajmal, the out-of-touch Umar Gul, the unpredictable Shahid Afridi, the forgotten Rana Naved, and the unfulfilled talent Imran Nazir managed to defeat a star-studded Indian side which included the likes of Gautam Gambhir, Virat Kohli, MS Dhoni, Suresh Raina, and undisputed legends such as Rahul Dravid and Sachin Tendulkar. What's stopping us now?

How about the 2012 Aane Do series? We made a trip to India's backyard, and just like that, defeated them with a young/inexperienced fast-bowling pair and a youngster opening the batting for us. Junaid Khan. Remember Junaid Khan? He was merely 22 years of age when he wrecked havoc in Chennai and Kolkata. 5 years down the road, Junaid, now with more experience under his belt, has the chance to show the Indian side what he's made of once again.

Wahab Riaz, who is arguably our "weak link" in the pace attack right now himself has caused tension in India previously. Those five wickets he took in Mohali must still be on the back of the minds of all 1.2 billion viewers scattered across the country that were glued to the screen on that day. Here we are, 6 years down the road. Wahab has another opportunity to cause similar damage, if not worse.

Who won 3 years ago when the two sides met? Ask Ahmed Shehzad. He was there. He chipped in with a very handy 42 (44) in that chase, where Pakistan once again one-upped India. 3 years on, Shehzad is still there. He knows he has done it before. He knows he can do it again.

What about Mohammad Hafeez? I remember him having a great time in the T20I leg of the Aane Do series. Surely, one cannot say with a straight face that Hafeez had the fear of India while playing those knocks? Those crispy drives, those cuts. I don't think that was a timid or scared batsman. Of course, no one's stopping Hafeez from doing that on June 4th. He has every chance to repeat such performances and there's absolutely NO one stopping him.

Oh, have I forgotten the man who has eaten the Indian attack for breakfast, lunch, and dinner all these years? Yes, I'm speaking of Shoaib Malik. I'm sure everyone, including our Indian brethren will acknowledge that Malik was and is a major threat come June 4th. Yes, this is man whose top 3 high scores in ODIs have all come against the same cricket team he'll be facing off against next Saturday at Edgbaston. Who forgot about the 143 in Colombo? If so, shall I remind you of the 128 in Centurion? Don't remember that either? Fine, there's no way you forgot about the 125* in Karachi, or the 108 in Lahore, or the 95 in Pindi, or the 90 in Peshawar. The 89 in Jaipur and the 75 in Jamshedpur weren't shabby knocks, either. Yup, these were all runs scored by Malik, against none other than India. He'll be there next Saturday. He's not going anywhere.

This is the same nation that has produced legends. Imran Khan wore the same star on his jersey that each one of our XI men will be wearing at Edgbaston. Shoaib Akhtar ripped apart batting line-ups with the same chand tara on his jersey that Hasan Ali will be wearing. The same chand tara that Mohammad Amir, Junaid Khan, Wahab Riaz, Fahim Ashraf, Imad Wasim, Shadab Khan - whichever 5 of them play, will be wearing. Undisputed legends and greats of the game such as Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Inzamam-ul-Haq, and even the recent retirees Younis Khan and Misbah-ul-Haq are all gentlemen that were born on the same soil and served the same nation as Sarfraz Ahmed and co. What exactly, then, is stopping Sarfraz and his men from achieving the same feat as their predecessors?

This is not the time for fear, lads. This is the time to become a hero. This is the time for youngsters like Fakhar Zaman, Hasan Ali, Shadab Khan, Fahim Ashraf, and Babar Azam (whichever one of them play) to show the world what they, i.e. Pakistanis can do. This is the time for the likes of Mohammad Hafeez, Shoaib Malik, and Sarfraz Ahmed to step up and guide the youngsters, and spur them on towards success. There is no need to be afraid. Pakistan, throughout history has beaten India more than India has beaten Pakistan. Pakistan is capable of doing what other teams cannot do. The matchwinners are there. The hunger and passion is there. What then is there to be scared of?

Go out their, Green shirts. Go play. Don't worry about anything. Here's a tip: make sure to blast a few national songs on the team bus, on the way to Edgbaston. Play on Dil Dil Pakistan. Play on Jazba Junoon, because plenty of that will be required on June 4th. There is nothing to be afraid of. You are playing for Pakistan, the nation that has produced many legends and many breathtaking, miraculous performances over the years.

Give it your all, and all the best. You will win. Keep believing.

Pakistan Zindabad.

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Well done boy !!
 
The fear is better aimed at foreign tours especially Australia. That is where the fear of Pakistan team is realized.

With India, it is case of pressure due to courtesy of Pakistani public gets in the way. The team needs to follow the receipt of Shoaib Malik since he is pretty eager to respond to the challenging situation against India.

90 of Pakistan team was experienced geared to take on minnow India but today team is inexperienced and heavily reliable on Sarfraz and Malik for under pressure situation. So it is expected that the inexperienced batting line is bound to give in to the unbearable pressure. It is time that can cure the pressure problem because with time, the experience are built.

If it was the case of fear alone, then the overall of game in stats would be different.
 
Match vs India shouldn't be treated special anymore. And fear can be overcome by following your gut feelings when in the ground.
 
I think Pakistan players create unnecessary tension against India in ICC events.
Don't think of Playing against Hindus so as a Muslim it's very important this match. Before anyone attacking me.. Malik after losing to India in Wt20 final apologising to Muslims all over the world lol
 
India could have a bad day.
But honestly confidence comes from winning more often and winning the big moment.
India caught up with Pakistan by 2004 and then never relinquished that stronghold. The current generation of Indian cricketers have nothing to do with Javed Miandad hitting a last ball six. They have just seen India winning for the most part. I know a lot of ardent Pakistani fans out great stock in us beating them at home.
As for Pakistan they have some good new players but they are left down by some pretty soft senior players. Who knows sometimes sport is cyclical and narratives just provide justification but not prediction. Personally speaking I would have low expectations from a team where the senior players are Hafeez and Malik
 
First and foremost, the men in green must enter the field thinking that they are the superior side, and not India. Put aside World Cup defeats, bilateral defeats, and all other negatives that have occurred against India. Put aside all the other negativity that has been surrounding this Pakistan side of late - be it fixing, cheating, losing, etc. - put it all aside. Forget that we are ranked 8th. Rankings don't matter; all we need is to have one good day. 8 good hours of ruthless, aggressive, quality cricket. 100 good overs. June 4th is a new day. A new dawn. A new opportunity.

Focus on all the positives. Pakistan is a side that has historically dominated India. The head-to-head record is in favour of India. The Champions Trophy record, which is the most relevant record at the moment, favours Pakistan. In 2009 when the two sides met, Pakistan were victorious. Yes, a side that included the likes of Younis Khan, Kamran Akmal, the recently unfit Umar Akmal, the previously banned Saeed Ajmal, the out-of-touch Umar Gul, the unpredictable Shahid Afridi, the forgotten Rana Naved, and the unfulfilled talent Imran Nazir managed to defeat a star-studded Indian side which included the likes of Gautam Gambhir, Virat Kohli, MS Dhoni, Suresh Raina, and undisputed legends such as Rahul Dravid and Sachin Tendulkar. What's stopping us now?

How about the 2012 Aane Do series? We made a trip to India's backyard, and just like that, defeated them with a young/inexperienced fast-bowling pair and a youngster opening the batting for us. Junaid Khan. Remember Junaid Khan? He was merely 22 years of age when he wrecked havoc in Chennai and Kolkata. 5 years down the road, Junaid, now with more experience under his belt, has the chance to show the Indian side what he's made of once again.

Wahab Riaz, who is arguably our "weak link" in the pace attack right now himself has caused tension in India previously. Those five wickets he took in Mohali must still be on the back of the minds of all 1.2 billion viewers scattered across the country that were glued to the screen on that day. Here we are, 6 years down the road. Wahab has another opportunity to cause similar damage, if not worse.

Who won 3 years ago when the two sides met? Ask Ahmed Shehzad. He was there. He chipped in with a very handy 42 (44) in that chase, where Pakistan once again one-upped India. 3 years on, Shehzad is still there. He knows he has done it before. He knows he can do it again.

What about Mohammad Hafeez? I remember him having a great time in the T20I leg of the Aane Do series. Surely, one cannot say with a straight face that Hafeez had the fear of India while playing those knocks? Those crispy drives, those cuts. I don't think that was a timid or scared batsman. Of course, no one's stopping Hafeez from doing that on June 4th. He has every chance to repeat such performances and there's absolutely NO one stopping him.

Oh, have I forgotten the man who has eaten the Indian attack for breakfast, lunch, and dinner all these years? Yes, I'm speaking of Shoaib Malik. I'm sure everyone, including our Indian brethren will acknowledge that Malik was and is a major threat come June 4th. Yes, this is man whose top 3 high scores in ODIs have all come against the same cricket team he'll be facing off against next Saturday at Edgbaston. Who forgot about the 143 in Colombo? If so, shall I remind you of the 128 in Centurion? Don't remember that either? Fine, there's no way you forgot about the 125* in Karachi, or the 108 in Lahore, or the 95 in Pindi, or the 90 in Peshawar. The 89 in Jaipur and the 75 in Jamshedpur weren't shabby knocks, either. Yup, these were all runs scored by Malik, against none other than India. He'll be there next Saturday. He's not going anywhere.

This is the same nation that has produced legends. Imran Khan wore the same star on his jersey that each one of our XI men will be wearing at Edgbaston. Shoaib Akhtar ripped apart batting line-ups with the same chand tara on his jersey that Hasan Ali will be wearing. The same chand tara that Mohammad Amir, Junaid Khan, Wahab Riaz, Fahim Ashraf, Imad Wasim, Shadab Khan - whichever 5 of them play, will be wearing. Undisputed legends and greats of the game such as Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Inzamam-ul-Haq, and even the recent retirees Younis Khan and Misbah-ul-Haq are all gentlemen that were born on the same soil and served the same nation as Sarfraz Ahmed and co. What exactly, then, is stopping Sarfraz and his men from achieving the same feat as their predecessors?

This is not the time for fear, lads. This is the time to become a hero. This is the time for youngsters like Fakhar Zaman, Hasan Ali, Shadab Khan, Fahim Ashraf, and Babar Azam (whichever one of them play) to show the world what they, i.e. Pakistanis can do. This is the time for the likes of Mohammad Hafeez, Shoaib Malik, and Sarfraz Ahmed to step up and guide the youngsters, and spur them on towards success. There is no need to be afraid. Pakistan, throughout history has beaten India more than India has beaten Pakistan. Pakistan is capable of doing what other teams cannot do. The matchwinners are there. The hunger and passion is there. What then is there to be scared of?

Go out their, Green shirts. Go play. Don't worry about anything. Here's a tip: make sure to blast a few national songs on the team bus, on the way to Edgbaston. Play on Dil Dil Pakistan. Play on Jazba Junoon, because plenty of that will be required on June 4th. There is nothing to be afraid of. You are playing for Pakistan, the nation that has produced many legends and many breathtaking, miraculous performances over the years.

Give it your all, and all the best. You will win. Keep believing.

Pakistan Zindabad.

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Need to play with that Pakistani flair and hopefully Sarfraz leads from the front with positive intent and aggressive captaincy.
 
First and foremost, the men in green must enter the field thinking that they are the superior side, and not India. Put aside World Cup defeats, bilateral defeats, and all other negatives that have occurred against India. Put aside all the other negativity that has been surrounding this Pakistan side of late - be it fixing, cheating, losing, etc. - put it all aside. Forget that we are ranked 8th. Rankings don't matter; all we need is to have one good day. 8 good hours of ruthless, aggressive, quality cricket. 100 good overs. June 4th is a new day. A new dawn. A new opportunity.

Focus on all the positives. Pakistan is a side that has historically dominated India. The head-to-head record is in favour of India. The Champions Trophy record, which is the most relevant record at the moment, favours Pakistan. In 2009 when the two sides met, Pakistan were victorious. Yes, a side that included the likes of Younis Khan, Kamran Akmal, the recently unfit Umar Akmal, the previously banned Saeed Ajmal, the out-of-touch Umar Gul, the unpredictable Shahid Afridi, the forgotten Rana Naved, and the unfulfilled talent Imran Nazir managed to defeat a star-studded Indian side which included the likes of Gautam Gambhir, Virat Kohli, MS Dhoni, Suresh Raina, and undisputed legends such as Rahul Dravid and Sachin Tendulkar. What's stopping us now?

How about the 2012 Aane Do series? We made a trip to India's backyard, and just like that, defeated them with a young/inexperienced fast-bowling pair and a youngster opening the batting for us. Junaid Khan. Remember Junaid Khan? He was merely 22 years of age when he wrecked havoc in Chennai and Kolkata. 5 years down the road, Junaid, now with more experience under his belt, has the chance to show the Indian side what he's made of once again.

Wahab Riaz, who is arguably our "weak link" in the pace attack right now himself has caused tension in India previously. Those five wickets he took in Mohali must still be on the back of the minds of all 1.2 billion viewers scattered across the country that were glued to the screen on that day. Here we are, 6 years down the road. Wahab has another opportunity to cause similar damage, if not worse.

Who won 3 years ago when the two sides met? Ask Ahmed Shehzad. He was there. He chipped in with a very handy 42 (44) in that chase, where Pakistan once again one-upped India. 3 years on, Shehzad is still there. He knows he has done it before. He knows he can do it again.

What about Mohammad Hafeez? I remember him having a great time in the T20I leg of the Aane Do series. Surely, one cannot say with a straight face that Hafeez had the fear of India while playing those knocks? Those crispy drives, those cuts. I don't think that was a timid or scared batsman. Of course, no one's stopping Hafeez from doing that on June 4th. He has every chance to repeat such performances and there's absolutely NO one stopping him.

Oh, have I forgotten the man who has eaten the Indian attack for breakfast, lunch, and dinner all these years? Yes, I'm speaking of Shoaib Malik. I'm sure everyone, including our Indian brethren will acknowledge that Malik was and is a major threat come June 4th. Yes, this is man whose top 3 high scores in ODIs have all come against the same cricket team he'll be facing off against next Saturday at Edgbaston. Who forgot about the 143 in Colombo? If so, shall I remind you of the 128 in Centurion? Don't remember that either? Fine, there's no way you forgot about the 125* in Karachi, or the 108 in Lahore, or the 95 in Pindi, or the 90 in Peshawar. The 89 in Jaipur and the 75 in Jamshedpur weren't shabby knocks, either. Yup, these were all runs scored by Malik, against none other than India. He'll be there next Saturday. He's not going anywhere.

This is the same nation that has produced legends. Imran Khan wore the same star on his jersey that each one of our XI men will be wearing at Edgbaston. Shoaib Akhtar ripped apart batting line-ups with the same chand tara on his jersey that Hasan Ali will be wearing. The same chand tara that Mohammad Amir, Junaid Khan, Wahab Riaz, Fahim Ashraf, Imad Wasim, Shadab Khan - whichever 5 of them play, will be wearing. Undisputed legends and greats of the game such as Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Inzamam-ul-Haq, and even the recent retirees Younis Khan and Misbah-ul-Haq are all gentlemen that were born on the same soil and served the same nation as Sarfraz Ahmed and co. What exactly, then, is stopping Sarfraz and his men from achieving the same feat as their predecessors?

This is not the time for fear, lads. This is the time to become a hero. This is the time for youngsters like Fakhar Zaman, Hasan Ali, Shadab Khan, Fahim Ashraf, and Babar Azam (whichever one of them play) to show the world what they, i.e. Pakistanis can do. This is the time for the likes of Mohammad Hafeez, Shoaib Malik, and Sarfraz Ahmed to step up and guide the youngsters, and spur them on towards success. There is no need to be afraid. Pakistan, throughout history has beaten India more than India has beaten Pakistan. Pakistan is capable of doing what other teams cannot do. The matchwinners are there. The hunger and passion is there. What then is there to be scared of?

Go out their, Green shirts. Go play. Don't worry about anything. Here's a tip: make sure to blast a few national songs on the team bus, on the way to Edgbaston. Play on Dil Dil Pakistan. Play on Jazba Junoon, because plenty of that will be required on June 4th. There is nothing to be afraid of. You are playing for Pakistan, the nation that has produced many legends and many breathtaking, miraculous performances over the years.

Give it your all, and all the best. You will win. Keep believing.

Pakistan Zindabad.

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POTW!!!
 
It's not fear but lack of quality cricketers. India has produced several great ODI players after the 1999 World Cup and Pakistan has not.
 
Our side looks pathetically weak. Best way to overcome their fear is hope it rains that day so we get a point.
 
Coming back to this thread, I think what we saw today (atleast judging by the score) was a prime example of fearless cricket, and this is exactly the type we'll need to play against India.

We've seen the likes of Sarfraz, Fahim, Junaid etc. making statements that suggest that Pakistan will treat the June 4th clash as just another game, but question is, can they actually do that?

IMO Fahim is now a must for the India game. His calm character suggests he's unfazed by pressure and we badly need someone like that in such a high-profile game. I really hope he can handle a huge crowd, though.
 
We need to get rid of guys like Rameez Raja who add unnecessary masala to Ind-Pak matches whereas Indian counterparts don't get as excited. It is because of people like Rameez we are stuck in the 90s.

Pak should go in with the mentality of we have nothing to lose just go out and have fun.
 
Objectively India's entire side has been and is better than ours is on most if not all surfaces in the world. There is no fear factor its just Sharma/Kohli/Rahane v Shehzad/Azhar/Hafeez. That's not a shot at our three players its just that in terms of batting there's a serious gulf in class.
 
India has to play bad to lose from Pakistan. There is a massive difference between quality of sides.
Gambhir
Uthappa
Pant
Samson
Raina

These batsmen are quite similar to quality of Paksitan main side and they are not even selected.

I would have been more worried for these players than the current selected. Raina is probably the best LOI player India has after Kohli so strange he is not selected.
 
Yup, it's never gonna happen.

We will always be afraid of India.

Don't think there's any point of watching another Indo-Pak game ever again.
 
I was making the same point in another thread. The mediocrity of our squad notwithstanding we seem to be too intimidated by the opposition and our recent record against them especially the senior players. We might be better off fielding an entirely new squad against them.
 
Pakistan is not scared of India - chill out with your agenda

Pakistan are a terrible cricket team, any good team like India, Aus, NZ, SA, Eng would demolish Pakistan.

nobody is scared of India... get out of here with that BS statement
 
Not just in terms of skills, but Pakistan has fallen way behind India in terms of characters as well. And by characters, I don't mean clowns like Imad whose hairstyle has become the butt of jokes on social media. The contrast between the personalities of the two captains today is sums up how much we have fallen.

More than just the tactics and strategies, a good captain also has an aura and presence that rubs onto his teammates as well as the opposition. People generally get offended and feel uncomfortable when considering this aspect, but the fact is that it plays a role.

Look at Sarfraz - a short, chubby character with zero communication skills and not an ounce of charisma, who no standing in world cricket and majority of the casual followers don't even know him.

On the other hand, Kohli has a dashing personality, a real presence in the field, and he is by far the biggest superstar in the game today. Teams fear and respect him, and he is a very good communicator as well.

Now imagine if you are a young player and you are being lead by a character like Kohli rather than the Pakistani version of Mushfiq. It makes a world of difference. The young Pakistani players are intimidated by the aura of Kohli, but the young Indian players probably laugh at Sarfraz. Not only is he a vastly inferior player, but also a vastly inferior character.

Once upon a time, India had Kapil but we had Imran, who had the performance, personality and status that commanded global respect. Teams feared and respected him, and we India had Azharuddin, we had Wasim, who was everything that this current team doesn't have.

I don't necessarily agree that it is down to the fear factor, but the fact is that Pakistani cricketers these days are mice compared to the Indians, who have no reason to respect or fear them.
 
India could have a bad day.
But honestly confidence comes from winning more often and winning the big moment.
India caught up with Pakistan by 2004 and then never relinquished that stronghold. The current generation of Indian cricketers have nothing to do with Javed Miandad hitting a last ball six. They have just seen India winning for the most part. I know a lot of ardent Pakistani fans out great stock in us beating them at home.
As for Pakistan they have some good new players but they are left down by some pretty soft senior players. Who knows sometimes sport is cyclical and narratives just provide justification but not prediction. Personally speaking I would have low expectations from a team where the senior players are Hafeez and Malik

Indian batsmen were definitely looking out of form especially their top three. But it's mediocre captaincy and some garbage bowling and some awful fielding which gave them much needed confidence before the launching pad.
 
To add to the above post, the Indian players have developed a Superiority Complex with respect to the Pakistani players.

They know that not only are they better cricketers, but they are bigger stars as well with a bigger fan base and more money. They are simply out of our league and their competition is teams like Australia, England and South Africa.

These days, their players hardly celebrate beating us, because they know it's far from a big deal like it used to be.
 
To add to the above post, the Indian players have developed a Superiority Complex with respect to the Pakistani players.

They know that not only are they better cricketers, but they are bigger stars as well with a bigger fan base and more money. They are simply out of our league and their competition is teams like Australia, England and South Africa.

These days, their players hardly celebrate beating us, because they know it's far from a big deal like it used to be.

You forgot our cricket is done.

We are finished.

There is no hope.
 
Indian batsmen were definitely looking out of form especially their top three. But it's mediocre captaincy and some garbage bowling and some awful fielding which gave them much needed confidence before the launching pad.

If you think that, then you are now aware of Dhawan's record in ICC tournaments and Rohit's form in general.
First of all, this is how India ALWAYS play the first ten over, slow and steady and then they make it count.
I generally agree with you that it was atrocious defensive captaincy that allowed them to play themselves in, but that doesnt change the larger narrative. This is a team of mental midgets.
 
To add to the above post, the Indian players have developed a Superiority Complex with respect to the Pakistani players.

They know that not only are they better cricketers, but they are bigger stars as well with a bigger fan base and more money. They are simply out of our league and their competition is teams like Australia, England and South Africa.

These days, their players hardly celebrate beating us, because they know it's far from a big deal like it used to be.

So why were they making so many mistakes in the field early on when there was still some pressure? My view is that India were shaky at the start and could easily have been put under more pressure by a more tuned in team. I don't see any inferiority complex in the Pakistan players, I see players who lack skill or brains who think they are far better than they are. Massive egos without the talent to match, e.g., Wahab, Hafeez, Umar Akmal, etc.
 
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It starts from the fact that the Indian players are ten times better than ours. It's something we will have to endure for a long time.

I do not know why some Pakistani fans cannot accept it, but it might be the only way forward and the only way we could inject some fresh blood instead of seniors like Hafeez, Wahab, Azhar.

The only player that looked good enough yesterday was Malik. And that's a shame considering he is already 35.
 
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