Based on international matches, huge gap in pitches in Pakistan and India. Turn is not the only difference.
See PJL videos , they had speed gun.
I see very good pitches in recently concluded champions cup , had pace , bounce ,spin and everything.
Hopefully, then we see the same in international in future. I see mostly dead pitches in internationals.
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Agreed the Ind U19 batters seems different breed altogether than Pak U19s in every worldcup.
This is true . But you also are making the mistake of comparing PJL and U-19 with Duleep.
How about QEA. Do you see many deliveries over 140?
Bro even our U19 kids bowls at 140k+ just don’t talk about 2 dozens 140k pacers we have in domestic cricket.
Harshit Rana was comfortably above that.
But do you have speed guns showing bowling 140 + in QEA. I know you have 140 + bowlers. Never denied it .
Yes I know but it's one thing to bowl 140+ in a 4 over spell and it's another to bowl 140+ in a second or third spell in First class match. Why Pakistani batsmen have poor technique against pace, despite facing 140+ all the time, high pace gets on their nerves. Even Babar was uncomfortable against Nahid Rana. Ideally facing regularly 140+ fast bowlers, muscle memory and reflexes should have been better than Indian batsmen
But Indian domestic bowlers never touch 140k in any of their spells in whole games.
not true. many do but they also bowl a heavy ball.
Well I haven't seen a single 140k delivery in any of the highlights I watched.
Bro I do have a eye for fast bowling talent and I am not impressed by even a single pacer in Duleep trophy. And I don't normally praise Pak players as well unless I see something really amazing in them.
Anantapur pitch was Imported from Brisbane and people comment on it with out any knowledge .that's why all the batsmen struggled due to bounce
I can name all those 2 dozen pacers with on record bowling speed as recent as 2023. It's another story whether they can sustain this pace in longer format over multiple sessions or not.
May be they did bowl some 140k stuff but too bad none of the highlights have them bowling 140k.
That's my point. If you did have bowlers sustaining speeds over long spells, you wouldn't be playing trundlers like Mir Hamza.
What are you even on about? Just making statements without anything to back it.
Pakistan has better fast bowlers than India.
Source : Duleep Trophy and Champions Cup highlights , Go see and decide yourself or ask someone who has decent cricket knowledge to tell which tournament has better bowlers.
Lays or pringles?
No more use of bottle caps so obviously Pakistan bowlers are very average ,this is reason no one taken 200 test Wickets after Waqar Younis
Need to ask Inzimam bhai
To be honest, I'd rather have 120-130 K bowlers bowling smartly and winning me tournaments, than have 140K + 'raw pace' bowlers bottling it against Bangladesh at home and losing to USA abroad.
There is more fast bowling talent in Pakistan but there is lack of brain to use that talent. The ones that had brains like Wasim, they got the success.
Why is it that with so much fast bowling tailunt available in Pakistan we don't get to see then on International level?
Anything and everything is a conspiracy against Pakistan.
Right. So showing slower speeds and Wrong umpiring have the same outcome on a game.
100% agreed with this post , Indians believe in delayed gratification and hardwork where as most Pakistani guys relies on instant gratification and less hardwork and more reliance on passion.
Those speed guns are poor,you have no clue about Indian domestics
You do relaize domestic speed guns are slower by 5kmph in india.
I saw the highlights and the standard of Indian domestic cricket is definitely low may be slightly better than Pak but definitely not by great deal as being touted by many.
Fastest bowlers quantitively compare to all other nations , YES , quality bowlers? NO.
Still doesn't change the fact that we have 2 dozen 140k+ bowlers and you guys probably got 10 or even less.
Start eating meat then you will have 300 dozen.2 dozen? pfft, I think you mean 200 dozen 140k+ bowlers. Unfortunately we don't have anyone
I agree brother, but when it comes to deployment in intl cricket, there are 120-130k trundlers plying the trade when the individual quota is >5 overs a day. If only PCT had one 145k+ thunderbolt bowler, they might have not lost at home to BD.
Pakistan every players are eating meat thats why they lost to USA in T20 world cup , clean sweep by Bangladesh (2-0) and England (3-0) in Pakistan . Australia did also beat Pakistan in Pakistan .
Lol as I said you have no clue about it
Lol,2dozen 140+ bowler who can't bowl 135+ after one spell of bowling
You got so much time to invest into India's domestic cricket - Yaar kuch aur kar leita!
We have some passionate cricket fans who are watching domestic cricket of another country .You got so much time to invest into India's domestic cricket - Yaar kuch aur kar leita!
Is this post from 2006 or 2024?
He is not wrong. Jaiswal, Abhishek, Samson, Ruturaj, Tilak Varma, Riyan Parag, Rishabh pant, Rinku Singh, Sai Sudarshan, Isan Kishan, Shivam Dube, Patidar, Paddikal,.
You have many many talented players who can walk into many other teams, but in the end, you need to go and win the tournament with the 11 playing. Let's see if you can go all the way this time.
It's true and what legacy - Tendulkar/Ganguly/Dravid to name but a few.
