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How many current Indian team players would walk into a Pakistani team and vice versa?

jeetu said:
For Tests
Babar will surely make it in India on pure merit. Shaheen is a left armer , so he is a must among Indian right arm bowlers. Rizwan vs Pant is a tough choice both have merits. Yasir vs Ashwin vs Jadeja is another tough pick as spinner. But Ashwin, Jadeja narrowly edges it on being better at batting. Lastly Azar Ali is merits a place as opener.
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Ashwin and Jadeja are vastly superior to Yasir on bowling alone.
 
Gill
Rohit
Pujara
Kohli
Babbar
Pant
Jadeja
Ashwin
Shami
Bumrah
Ishant

I don't see Shaheen replacing Shami in tests.
 
dildilpak said:
Babar, yes. Shaheen, maybe. Nada for Hassan Ali & Rizwan.

Hassan Ali is a spray gun, India has better bowlers- even their tier 2 bowlers upended Australia.

Rizwan could be a contender, but cant see India dumping their proven match winner Pant for Rizwan.
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Shaheen gives you that left arm option however hes in development stage so 50/50.

Hassan ali has better stats than both ishant and slighly better than shaami but i do rate shaami hassan ali also can bat and field.

I would defonitely pick rizwan in tests over pant as his keeping is vastly superior to pant and batting wise they are on par in my opinion.
 
Mesozoic said:
Lol at people sneaking Hasan Ali into the lineups ahead of Shami, Ishant and Umesh... like we wouldn't notice. :))

After one good series against a hapless South African team at home. Even Siraj had one good series....against Australia in Australia.
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Hassan ali has better stats than ishant sharma and umesh yadav hes also a better fielder and a way better batter
 
My test xi
I have picked hassan ali over shaheen and ishant as i believe hassan ali is a better bowler in tests currently and better fielder than both and has better stats overall.this line up will be both for sena and asain conditions.

Gill
Sharma
Pujara
Babar
Kohli
Rizwan
Jadeja
Hassan ali
Ashwin
Bumrah
Shami

Bench
Yasir
Shaheen
Pant
Rahane
 
In odis my xi would pick the below.shaheen and bumrah can open the bowling and hassan ali can come in at firstchange.i havent picked kumar as i wanted both bumrah and shaheen oppening the bowling.

Dawan
Sharma
Babar
Kohli
Pant
Pandya
Jadeja
Shadab
Hassan ali
Shaheen
Bumrah
 
shamaan said:
Hassan ali has better stats than ishant sharma and umesh yadav hes also a better fielder and a way better batter
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Nope. No offence, but Rizwan is not as good a batsman as Pant - we have all seen what Pant can do, even top teams like England & Australia dont know how to bowl to him. What he did on a 5th day Gabba pitch is stuff for the legends

Hassan Ali has no consistency - especially in the longer format. Apart from the last SA home series, never found him impressive in the test formats. Ishant is a much better Test bowler - dont go by his overall records, his figures in the last 5 years or so have been outstanding.

I could still consider Hassan Ali in the shorter formats. He would be definitely my 12th man.
 
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Hasan Ali barely got into the Pakistan test team fighting for spot against the Musas and Naseems. How on earth can he get into even the Indian reserves when India's fast bowling is far superior?
 
My t20 xi would be the following.i havent picked rizwan as i belive pant is better in t20s/odis batting at 5.

Rohit
Babar
Kohli
Hafeez
Pant
Pandya
Jadeja
Shadab
Hassan ali
Bumrah
Shaheen
 
BreadPakoda said:
Hasan Ali barely got into the Pakistan test team fighting for spot against the Musas and Naseems. How on earth can he get into even the Indian reserves when India's fast bowling is far superior?
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He was injuired.
 
shamaan said:
My t20 xi would be the following.i havent picked rizwan as i belive pant is better in t20s/odis batting at 5.

Rohit
Babar
Kohli
Hafeez
Pant
Pandya
Jadeja
Shadab
Hassan ali
Bumrah
Shaheen
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I like your T20 team. Would replace Shadab with Imad and Hasan with Bhuvi.

Imad is a good opening bowler and mentally strong batsman.

You clearly rate Hasan a lot. His eco is 8.42, Bhuvi's is 6.9. There is no comparison.
 
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dildilpak said:
Nope. No offence, but Rizwan is not as good a batsman as Pant - we have all seen what Pant can do, even top teams like England & Australia dont know how to bowl to him. What he did on a 5th day Gabba pitch is stuff for the legends

Hassan Ali has no consistency - especially in the longer format. Apart from the last SA home series, never found him impressive in the test formats. Ishant is a much better Test bowler - dont go by his overall records, his figures in the last 5 years or so have been outstanding.

I could still consider Hassan Ali in the shorter formats. He would be definitely my 12th man.
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Even if pant is slightly ahead his keeping is way behind hence why id include rizwan.
 
Imad with 22 @ 6.22 is probably one of the best T20I bowlers in the world right now. Bowls during field restrictions and bats at 146 SR making him a genuine all-rounder. Clutch too.
 
dildilpak said:
Nope. No offence, but Rizwan is not as good a batsman as Pant - we have all seen what Pant can do, even top teams like England & Australia dont know how to bowl to him. What he did on a 5th day Gabba pitch is stuff for the legends

Hassan Ali has no consistency - especially in the longer format. Apart from the last SA home series, never found him impressive in the test formats. Ishant is a much better Test bowler - dont go by his overall records, his figures in the last 5 years or so have been outstanding.

I could still consider Hassan Ali in the shorter formats. He would be definitely my 12th man.
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Hassan ali was out for a longer time and he played with a injury pluss like i said hes a better batter and fielder . But its only a personal opinion.hassan ali won the CT that alone that should determin how good he was and now hes fully fit i expect him to hit the heights again
 
BreadPakoda said:
I like your T20 team. Would replace Shadab with Imad and Hasan with Bhuvi.

Imad is a good opening bowler and mentally strong batsman.

You clearly rate Hasan a lot. His eco is 8.42, Bhuvi's is 6.9. There is no comparison.
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I went with shadab as you already have jadeja thier so wanted more variety pluss Shadab is a much better fielder.yes exactly why didnt include imad becouse he bowls with the new ball but i already have bumrah and shaheen as new ball bowlers.

Same again hassan is a better fielding and a better batter so id pick him all day long in t20s ahead of Bhuvi.also his average and strike rate is better than bhuvi.
 
Shaheen will definitely be across 3 formats in squad and likely would be first choice pick being only high class leftie in both countries

Mohammed Amir in ODIs would also make squad given that India's ODI bowling depth is weak

Hasan Ali would edge out a Thakur in ODI and T20 squads given his greater bowling nous and also hitting ability package.

Babar Azam definitely into Test XI over Rahane and would edge out Iyer at #4 in ODIs. T20Is would not fit because straight up competition with Kohli for anchor role. Maybe a squad back-up at best.

Hafeez and Imad are decent shouts for T20 but tbh Hafeez despite renaissance is too old and without his bowling doesn't give any advantage over likes of KLR, SKY, Ishan.
Imad is at best a less fitter but better bowler+hitter package than Krunal Pandya but nothing in comparison to Jaddu so no go.
 
saeed5646 said:
hasan ali is yet to take 200 test cricket and god knows whether he will be worse fast bowler to do our not :afridi
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Couldn't get what exactly you are going for here but I believe you're trying to take a dig at the bowler who averages just 19 in the last 3 years while picking almost 80 wickets on the way.
 
Mesozoic said:
Couldn't get what exactly you are going for here but I believe you're trying to take a dig at the bowler who averages just 19 in the last 3 years while picking almost 80 wickets on the way.
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Good for india he has improved after intial 30 odd test failures
 
BreadPakoda said:
Hasan Ali barely got into the Pakistan test team fighting for spot against the Musas and Naseems. How on earth can he get into even the Indian reserves when India's fast bowling is far superior?
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He has 10 wicket haul recently how many did your phast bowlers have in last 2 years? In that time frame india have 2 test against bd just in case if you question SA test team quality

Not denying your lot has performed for long time but stop taking cheap dig at bowler who is very good in asian conditions
 
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saeed5646 said:
He has 10 wicket haul recently how many did your phast bowlers have in last 2 years? In that time frame india have 2 test against bd just in case if you question SA test team quality

Not denying your lot has performed for long time but stop taking cheap dig at bowler who is very good in asian conditions
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Poor logic. You put Hasan Ali in a bowling attack of Ashwin, Jadeja, Bumrah/Shami etc and he'll do well to take a 6fer let alone a 10fer. Bowling with Nauman Ali, Yasir and Shaheen has it's own merits...
 
saeed5646 said:
He has 10 wicket haul recently how many did your phast bowlers have in last 2 years? In that time frame india have 2 test against bd just in case if you question SA test team quality

Not denying your lot has performed for long time but stop taking cheap dig at bowler who is very good in asian conditions
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India fast bowlers won us a series in Australia. What was the performance of the pakistani ones?
 
pratiktc said:
Shaheen will definitely be across 3 formats in squad and likely would be first choice pick being only high class leftie in both countries

Mohammed Amir in ODIs would also make squad given that India's ODI bowling depth is weak

Hasan Ali would edge out a Thakur in ODI and T20 squads given his greater bowling nous and also hitting ability package.

Babar Azam definitely into Test XI over Rahane and would edge out Iyer at #4 in ODIs. T20Is would not fit because straight up competition with Kohli for anchor role. Maybe a squad back-up at best.

Hafeez and Imad are decent shouts for T20 but tbh Hafeez despite renaissance is too old and without his bowling doesn't give any advantage over likes of KLR, SKY, Ishan.
Imad is at best a less fitter but better bowler+hitter package than Krunal Pandya but nothing in comparison to Jaddu so no go.
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This is the best post in this thread. However india would never select Amir in international with his fixing past
 
shamaan said:
Yeah thats due to playing alot more games and plus hassan ali has been injuired.
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Dude playing more games INCREASES the average. When was the last time a Pakistani bowler averaged below 22?
 
saeed5646 said:
He has 10 wicket haul recently how many did your phast bowlers have in last 2 years? In that time frame india have 2 test against bd just in case if you question SA test team quality

Not denying your lot has performed for long time but stop taking cheap dig at bowler who is very good in asian conditions
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Dude when australia were dominant in 2000s, for 11 years they only had 2 fast bowlers ever taking 10-fer in the entire period. And its obvious why, when you have multiple great bowlers, no single bowlers can take a 10fer. Whole in a poor bowling line up, one bowlers can take 10 wickets even if the opposition scores 600 runs
 
Indiafan said:
Dude playing more games INCREASES the average. When was the last time a Pakistani bowler averaged below 22?
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Shami
Bumrah
Ishant

They are the core of fast bowling for India in tests. Neither Hasan Ali nor Shaheen will replace them.
 
Indiafan said:
Dude playing more games INCREASES the average. When was the last time a Pakistani bowler averaged below 22?
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You can tell anderson and broad that.
hassan ali averages 19 this year.
Amir averaged 24 in 2019
And 19 in 2018
Anyways thats just a stupid question as no pakistan has played the amount of games your indian fast bowlers have bowled but that doesnt mean they cant make the squad.
 
Indiafan said:
This is the best post in this thread. However india would never select Amir in international with his fixing past
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If amir was indian he would have been earning crores in ipl so i dont think he would have risked his career for few thousand pounds.Plus,his captain would have been dhoni
 
Mesozoic said:
Lol nothing left to discuss. :apology:
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Ishant averaged above 30 in 10 years hes played.and now you see a decline in his performance currently at 26 average this year.hassan ali had 1 bad year so far but that isnt equivalent to what ishant bad year was 75 average! A man playing more than 15 years you would expect him to a legend of the game.
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
IndoPak combined test XI -

Rohit
Gill
Babar
Kohli (c)
Fawad
Rizwan (k)
Jadeja
Ashwin
Hasan Ali
Shaheen
Bumrah

Reserves - Yasir, Pujara, Shami, Pant
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It is adorable that you think that a joint team of india and pakistan would have six Pakistani players to 5 Indians. Rizwan ahead of Pant? Lost your marbles have you? Fawad ahead of Rahane? Lolz
 
captain.hansolo said:
It is adorable that you think that a joint team of india and pakistan would have six Pakistani players to 5 Indians. Rizwan ahead of Pant? Lost your marbles have you? Fawad ahead of Rahane? Lolz
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India is definitely the better team at the moment but I tried to balance the gaps the current Indian team has. Shaheen, Babar, Rizwan etc would add a great solidity and make this team really hard to beat.
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
India is definitely the better team at the moment but I tried to balance the gaps the current Indian team has. Shaheen, Babar, Rizwan etc would add a great solidity and make this team really hard to beat.
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You're genuinely deluded mate. Start watching some other sport as Cricket isn't your thing.
 
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