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"How many times have South Africa come close to winning in India?" : Virat Kohli

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Fiery press conference from the Indian skipper .

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I see many heads rolling by the end of this year in the Indian test team..
 
Good lord, that is dumb. Kohli certifying that he's a 12-year old upstairs.
 
Well is he factually wrong? Nope.

Having said that, immature statement. Should have let it pass.
 
Actuallu watched the interview now, good lord the cringe is real. This is really embarrassing how he handled it. So angry and attacking the journos. Smh
 
Did'nt expect such a comment from Virat.
Gambhir gave a similar comment a few years back following a similar away loss; like to prepare rank turners for visiting teams
 
To be fair, the journalist went on a rant than asking a question. Kohli could've dealt with it better but it seems like its not in his nature to let things slide.
 
He scored a 150 in this test, he should just shut up, accept the inevitable criticism and move on to Jo'burg instead of going after reporters like that.
 
He is a loser and always has been. He acts all nice when he gets pumped from media etc but shows his true colors next second. Biggest Loser of Indian Cricket in past decade or so. India is going to Lose 0-12 on these tours and will lose home series as well. This team is so done and dusted due to this loser.
 
As an Indian fan, I feel embarrassed. Using a word I learned on this forum, what paindu behaviour.
 
I'd play just 10 Kohlis in my team, even if I had 11 Kohlis in my squad.

And I'll keep someone else as a Captain. Will never keep Kohli as a Captain. Would even prefer playing without a Captain, if possible.
 
Poor comment from the skipper.

Toss, selection mistakes & batting collapses except Kohli no one even looked confident/ believed they can score.

Only positive is we are taking 20 wickets.
 
Wow, what a sorry excuse of a leader. Rahane should take over as captain effective immediately.

One would do well to remind one Virat Kohli that SA has humiliated India in India on numerous occasions. Bowling them out under a hundred and winning by 300+ runs. Has any team ever lost a home match by 300+ in the modern era?

SA have won a series in that country too and drawing a few as well. Competed way better than India ever has in South Africa, we had 5 wins each and 4 draws prior 2015. How have India fared in South Africa? What a brainless "leader", this is the problem when you have a man/child in such a crucial role. Never rated him.
 
Cue in for BCCI's unpaid lawyer to come in any moment and give this a totally new spin...once he is done, Kohli will be accepted as the biggest saint there ever was!
 
Wow, what a sorry excuse of a leader. Rahane should take over as captain effective immediately.

This first sentence in your post just got me wondering whether there is an ulterior motive for Kohli keeping Rahane out of the side?
 
Wow, what a sorry excuse of a leader. Rahane should take over as captain effective immediately.

One would do well to remind one Virat Kohli that SA has humiliated India in India on numerous occasions. Bowling them out under a hundred and winning by 300+ runs. Has any team ever lost a home match by 300+ in the modern era?

SA have won a series in that country too and drawing a few as well. Competed way better than India ever has in South Africa, we had 5 wins each and 4 draws prior 2015. How have India fared in South Africa? What a brainless "leader", this is the problem when you have a man/child in such a crucial role. Never rated him.

We don't anyone else who is a sure starter except Pujara. This is his first series loss, either he will go Dhoni's way post 2011 or change the squad with some gutsy batters next series.

Also we need a WK for outside asia, Saha or Parthiv are pure jokers with bat.
 
Teams today make the mistake of having the best player as captain.
INDIA :vk
ENGLAND :root
NZ :kane
Of course a captain should be the first name on the sheet but you need a leader of men not a consistent performer for that job.
 
Cue in for BCCI's unpaid lawyer to come in any moment and give this a totally new spin...once he is done, Kohli will be accepted as the biggest saint there ever was!

not to forget that this match was played on an Indian like wicket; South Africa cricket board trying hard to make series competitive by negating the home advantage
 
Kohli has grown too big for his boots. Sadly, none in the BCCI has the guts to shut him
 
If I remember correctly South Africa won the series in India in 2000, drew 1-1 in 2008 and drew 1-1 in 2010.

Only in 2015 they lost badly 3-0. That too after winning both ODI and T20 series.
 
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I think this is just the beginning. He will implode more in July-August 2018.
In English Cricket Team there are atleast 4-5 players who will be playing for their careers and after Ashes defeat they will give their best shot against India this summer. That is a long series of 5 test matches.
Green Tops, Jimmy Anderson, Woakes, Broad, Overton, it does not look good to be honest.

On top of it Rooty, Cooky, Stokesy all are hungry for blood and runs. Not looking good at all. If this is what Kohli has to offer in press conference, then how he will behave during that 5 match test series.
 
At least SA did it more than India ever will in SA.

Steyn should remember Kohli the Nagpur test :ashwin
 
South Africa white washed India in India, in the year 2000. That till this date is the biggest Cricket achievement of 21st Century. I mean white washing India in India ....come on that is insane.
 
India vs South Africa: 'You Tell Me The Best 11, We Will Play That,' Virat Kohli's Angry Retort At Reporter

A furious India captain Virat Kohli on Wednesday lost his cool and hit back at the reporters during a post-match conference after a 135-run defeat against South Africa in the second Test at Centurion, his first reverse as full-time skipper. During the conference, scribes once again raised questions on the player's selection and the best playing XI Kohli could've fielded during the Test match. "What is the best 11?" snapped Kohli when asked if India played the best combination in 'sub-continental' conditions at Centurion.

"If we had won this, was this the best 11? We don't decide the 11 according to results. You are telling me that you could have played the best 11. You tell me the best 11 and we will play that," the skipper went on.

Many questions were raised over team selection when Rohit was picked over Rahane in the first Test and Ishant was brought back into the team in place of Bhuvneshwar. However, after much criticism, Kohli backed his playing XI as he said that whoever is picked, should be good enough to do the job for the team.

"I am saying the loss obviously hurts but you make one decision and you got to back it. We don't sit here and say if you will fail in one game, you are not good enough to be at this level. Didn't we lose in India when we had the best 11 there?

"Whoever is picked should be good enough to do the job for the team. That is why we have got such a big squad. They are good enough to be at this level but you need to do that collectively as a team. You can't pinpoint and say which is the best 11. We have played with teams in the past which have looked really strong and lost."

Kohli was next asked about the trend of fielding different teams in all the Test matches under him and whether the team was losing because of too much chopping and changing.

"How many Test matches have we won out of 34? How many have we won? How many have we won? 21 wins (20 actually). Two losses. How many draws? Does it matter? Wherever we play we try to do our best. I'm here to answer your questions, not to fight with you," he countered.

India are ranked number one but post the loss, does Kohli believe they still are the best?

"Look, we have to believe that we are the best side. Even when we came here, if you don't have the belief that you can win the series here, there is no point coming here.

"We have not come here just to participate. And answering your question, how many times did South Africa come into the game in India?" he added.

https://sports.ndtv.com/south-afric...-virat-kohlis-angry-retort-at-reporte-1801374
 
Poor attitude.Shouldn’t be so quick to anger.

He surely has anger management issues. He wants people to i) sing his praises all the time ii) not criticise his calls iii) always agree with him.

Ask Kumble.
 
We don't anyone else who is a sure starter except Pujara. This is his first series loss, either he will go Dhoni's way post 2011 or change the squad with some gutsy batters next series.

Also we need a WK for outside asia, Saha or Parthiv are pure jokers with bat.

Rahane should be a locked in starter though, the guy is class. Kohli isn't producing an environment where a team could thrive. He wants games to be shaped by moments of brilliance. Not every player can do that. He doesn't have the team to play the brand of cricket he wants (especially away), as such a leader should adapt accordingly.

I was listening to G. Smith the other day, it was interesting to hear him say he got the team he wanted only 30% of the time. The selectors need to limit Kohli's influence in that team. He's just to powerful to the detriment of the team. At home you can get away with that, but away you need a tight nit group. He needs to be vetoed in team selection.

Get a humble guy to lead the side. Could it be that Pujara was run out twice because he was criticised behind the scenes? Kohli has been talking about intent since he arrived, even in India to be fair. IIR Pujara was once dropped for batting slow. India took a beating in Lanka (first Test), got recalled and scored a match winning hundred. (I stand corrected though)

You can't have 7 KP's in your team, you need players who can knuckle down and blunt the new ball, especially for someone batting in the top three. I have suspicion that Pujara was tapped in the shoulders, "move the game along or look to rotate strike". That's not his game, his game is to grind the opposition down and bully them later or allow the lower order to face a tiring attack.

I don't think India have a conducive team environment ATM. You can paper over that when you're winning (at home), but when you start losing things get very ugly. How does one drop his vice captain? To me that looks like a poor struggle, "vice captain or not but I'm in charge, you're dispensable like anyone". That's Kohli's message to Rahane.
 
Utter rubbish press conf. His team is losing. He is playing his pals over deserving players and he thinks he wont be questioned since his own performance is ok.

Better players than Virat Kohli have been questioned and he better get used to it or quit the post. He can take his cheerleader with him.
 
The journalist was needlessly being aggressive there. There are always these types around. Remember Graeme Smith being needled by an Indian journalist after they choked out of the World Cup. He handled it better than Virat, though I don't find anything wrong with Virat being rude to this guy. The content of what he said was silly though - the bit about SA in India. If there's any team that has done well in India (barring the England one-off win), it's South Africa.
 
I think when the person asks a question, he shoul ask keeping things in mind that this is happening everywhere else, so the arguement actually becomes between one person to the other, when you are asking such questions it merits a response.

But the news publishes this as a statement without putting into context what the reporter said first.

Even Misbah was forced to give such statements when he was riled up by Ian Chappell's statements. Obviously everyone knows home side has the advantage, but when a reporter acts completely devoid of facts and pretends this doesn't happen anywhere else then that deserves a response.
 
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TBH, if I were in his boots I would get annoyed too. It must be so annoying having to prove people that you are not just an incredible side at home. Indians, players and fans have had to do a lot of defending of recent.
 
Utter rubbish press conf. His team is losing. He is playing his pals over deserving players and he thinks he wont be questioned since his own performance is ok.

Better players than Virat Kohli have been questioned and he better get used to it or quit the post. He can take his cheerleader with him.

Exactly. I'm losing respct for him and Shastri every passing day. Pathetic by the so called aggessive captain.
 
He surely has anger management issues. He wants people to i) sing his praises all the time ii) not criticise his calls iii) always agree with him.

Ask Kumble.

I don't think Kohli views his team mates as his equals. They are just subjects who should bow to his demands.
 
:))) as expected captain and indian team falling apart as soon as they leave the luxuries of home and playing top sides away.
 
Pretty ridiculous press conference.. He is a fantastic batsmen but a very poor leader. You dont expect this from a player of his calibre.

If he continues with this attitude, he will never ever become a good leader no matter how much games he wins at home.
 
Teams today make the mistake of having the best player as captain.
INDIA :vk
ENGLAND :root
NZ :kane
Of course a captain should be the first name on the sheet but you need a leader of men not a consistent performer for that job.

Chapel wrote a great article comparing Faf, Smith and Kohli as captains. While these two are better bats than Faf, he's the better captain. The morale of the story here is that your best player does not necessarily make for a better captain.
 
Have begun detesting him. Has forgotten the defeats in India in 1996, 2008, even a series loss in 2000. Needs to accept that the current Indian batting lineup not fit to tie shoelaces of the fab 5 who won overseas.
Hope England serve greentops, and then Oz pulverize him till he quits cricket.
 
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I don't think Kohli views his team mates as his equals. They are just subjects who should bow to his demands.

Thats okay. Kohli's attitude is their internal problem and we shouldnt care. The bigger problem starts when he starts expecting such submission from outsiders. The way he is acting in this clip with the journalists is cringeworthy.
 
Just found this gem.. :)))


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SA have been one of the few touring teams that actually competed better than any other touring team. Kohli upset about the loss and speaking like a child whose toys were taken away from him.

Kohli needs to understand that Indian fans expect a lot from him and his crew more than just "We competed well" phrases which is nothing more than an eye wash. Your team selection is wrong and clearly there are some passengers in the batting lineup which failed spectacularly.

One of the Top 3 are supposed to score at least a 75 or 90 like Makram or Elgar did. But Rahul/Dhawan/Pujara/Vijay failed miserably. Its all about team selection. Please drop Vijay and Rohit permanantly from Test squad. Rohit has no business playign Test cricket. At 30, he is not going to improve his temparament or technique.

Persist with Rahul and if possible, please blood in Prithvi Shaw. That kid is ready to play with big boys. Shaw should be playing the next home series. Get in a proper keeper batsman. Try out Pant or Samson or Ishan Kishan. Give them an extended run.

Kohli needs to stop making excuses for the pathetic show that his batsmen have put on.
 
Good, good stuff from Kohli.

Won't take any crap from the imbeciles.
 
Rahane should be a locked in starter though, the guy is class. Kohli isn't producing an environment where a team could thrive. He wants games to be shaped by moments of brilliance. Not every player can do that. He doesn't have the team to play the brand of cricket he wants (especially away), as such a leader should adapt accordingly.

I was listening to G. Smith the other day, it was interesting to hear him say he got the team he wanted only 30% of the time. The selectors need to limit Kohli's influence in that team. He's just to powerful to the detriment of the team. At home you can get away with that, but away you need a tight nit group. He needs to be vetoed in team selection.

Get a humble guy to lead the side. Could it be that Pujara was run out twice because he was criticised behind the scenes? Kohli has been talking about intent since he arrived, even in India to be fair. IIR Pujara was once dropped for batting slow. India took a beating in Lanka (first Test), got recalled and scored a match winning hundred. (I stand corrected though)

You can't have 7 KP's in your team, you need players who can knuckle down and blunt the new ball, especially for someone batting in the top three. I have suspicion that Pujara was tapped in the shoulders, "move the game along or look to rotate strike". That's not his game, his game is to grind the opposition down and bully them later or allow the lower order to face a tiring attack.

I don't think India have a conducive team environment ATM. You can paper over that when you're winning (at home), but when you start losing things get very ugly. How does one drop his vice captain? To me that looks like a poor struggle, "vice captain or not but I'm in charge, you're dispensable like anyone". That's Kohli's message to Rahane.

Potw.

Though Rahane deserved to be dropped in india when he couldn't score and picked here.
 
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The funny thing is that South Africa actually have a very good record in India despite the 2015 series

Also they had won a series in India whereas India have never won a series in SA in any format
 
Well is he factually wrong? Nope.

Having said that, immature statement. Should have let it pass.
Actually he IS factually wrong

South Africa have led a series in India three times since 2000 and won one of those series
 
Actually he IS factually wrong

South Africa have led a series in India three times since 2000 and won one of those series

Yes i was mistaken. I just remembered the last 3-0 when SA toured India. SA had done much better than that previously.
 
Give him some space people - great player and a champion competitor. Individually, he did what an individual can do max in a team game - just that his team isn't good enough than some thought. He is just bitter with himself, more than anyone else.

Imran was something like this - extreme, bitter competitor who hated to lose and who would never leave the contest, but his choice of words were different. That's because of personality traits and how he was groomed in elite English schools & Oxford. Otherwise, Kohli is a great man by heart - and no one'll ever call him selfish.
 
:))

Kohli's mentality is no better than that of some of his fans. "Yeah, we sucked here but but but what about when they toured us four years ago?" Gimme a break.

Kohli should be happy he got an Indian pitch on which to make some runs. Had this been a typical Centurion track, he wouldn't have more than 10 runs in the entire series.

As for South Africa. They were an unstoppable beast during their peak of 2008-2014. Winning nearly everywhere and easily the best team in the world. They are not as good today as they were back then but clearly a better team than India.
 
He needs to keep his emotions in check, but I don't mind this. He is a champion cricketer and hates losing. He played an incredible innings and India have pushed South Africa all the way in the two Tests, but fell short at crucial junctions and have lost the series. Any competitive individual would be better in such circumstances.

This Test series will be a very hard one to swallow for Kohli and India. South Africa have been there for the taking and India have played some very good cricket. Getting smashed would have been less painful.
 
give him a break

he's a high intensity guy, and emotions are obviously running high after a crucial loss

I'd rather Kohli's response rather than any Pakistani captain's in the previous decade of "good positives from this loss" "don't care about winning, just want to give 100%"
 
give him a break

he's a high intensity guy, and emotions are obviously running high after a crucial loss

I'd rather Kohli's response rather than any Pakistani captain's in the previous decade of "good positives from this loss" "don't care about winning, just want to give 100%"

I'd take Misbah's pressers after his two wins in England than any of Kohli's.
 
Faf's response to Kohli was on point. The gist of it was that South Africa were given extreme pitches in India where even Indian batters were struggling and South African spinners were just as good as their Indian counterparts. Over here, India got one tough pitch in Cape Town and then one very familiar to them. They have no excuses beyond their own incompetence.
 
There is a difference between being aggressive and being angry. Ganguly was also very aggressive in his approach but he rarely used to lose it.

Kohli has clearly lost his marbles. Success has gone to his head. Also, it doesnt help when the board appoints a boot licker like Shastri who's only job is to agree with everything the captain says. Kumble tried to control this and was taken out. Kohli is a great player but captaincy is not his cup of tea. I miss the Dhoni days!
 
He needs to keep his emotions in check, but I don't mind this. He is a champion cricketer and hates losing. He played an incredible innings and India have pushed South Africa all the way in the two Tests, but fell short at crucial junctions and have lost the series. Any competitive individual would be better in such circumstances.

This Test series will be a very hard one to swallow for Kohli and India. South Africa have been there for the taking and India have played some very good cricket. Getting smashed would have been less painful.

Pushed all the way?? R u kidding me. They have comfortably won both matches
 
:))

Kohli's mentality is no better than that of some of his fans. "Yeah, we sucked here but but but what about when they toured us four years ago?" Gimme a break.

Kohli should be happy he got an Indian pitch on which to make some runs. Had this been a typical Centurion track, he wouldn't have more than 10 runs in the entire series.

As for South Africa. They were an unstoppable beast during their peak of 2008-2014. Winning nearly everywhere and easily the best team in the world. They are not as good today as they were back then but clearly a better team than India.

Team India may have not won but Kohli already has 2 centuries in SA. How many do Inzy,MoYo,YK together have in SA?
 
Pushed all the way?? R u kidding me. They have comfortably won both matches

Final scoreline suggests that, but not otherwise. Both matches were competitive for long periods of time but SA should great resilience. They played better than India, but it was not one-sided.

The fact that SA won both tosses and opted to bat first also didn't help. Batting in the fourth innings has been very tough, and the Indian bowlers have bowled very well. SA batting has not been great, and the result could have 2-0 in India's favor now had they won the tosses.
 
There is a difference between being aggressive and being angry. Ganguly was also very aggressive in his approach but he rarely used to lose it.

Kohli has clearly lost his marbles. Success has gone to his head. Also, it doesnt help when the board appoints a boot licker like Shastri who's only job is to agree with everything the captain says. Kumble tried to control this and was taken out. Kohli is a great player but captaincy is not his cup of tea. I miss the Dhoni days!

Dhoni was not a good Test Captain he even lost a Test Series on Home soil and several whietwashes in Aus/Eng etc.

Ganguly was better than Dhoni in Tests.
 
I have never hoped for a 3-0 loss for us but god i hope kohli loses this series 3-0 and would really love it if we lose the next match by an innings or something with kohli getting 0 in both innings, he needs to be taken down a few notches here.
 
There is a difference between being aggressive and being angry. Ganguly was also very aggressive in his approach but he rarely used to lose it.

Kohli has clearly lost his marbles. Success has gone to his head. Also, it doesnt help when the board appoints a boot licker like Shastri who's only job is to agree with everything the captain says. Kumble tried to control this and was taken out. Kohli is a great player but captaincy is not his cup of tea. I miss the Dhoni days!

He has lost it these days.

Full fledged ego.
 
To be fair, the person asking the question was obnoxious and confrontational. Asking tough questions is one thing, asking them in a condescending way is another.
 
Good to see him visibly affected by the loss. Hope he can learn something from this to take to the England series.

I prefer this anyday to Dhoni's pokerface 'its not about results but its about the process' kinda post match interviews.
 
Rahane should be a locked in starter though, the guy is class. Kohli isn't producing an environment where a team could thrive. He wants games to be shaped by moments of brilliance. Not every player can do that. He doesn't have the team to play the brand of cricket he wants (especially away), as such a leader should adapt accordingly.

I was listening to G. Smith the other day, it was interesting to hear him say he got the team he wanted only 30% of the time. The selectors need to limit Kohli's influence in that team. He's just to powerful to the detriment of the team. At home you can get away with that, but away you need a tight nit group. He needs to be vetoed in team selection.

Get a humble guy to lead the side. Could it be that Pujara was run out twice because he was criticised behind the scenes? Kohli has been talking about intent since he arrived, even in India to be fair. IIR Pujara was once dropped for batting slow. India took a beating in Lanka (first Test), got recalled and scored a match winning hundred. (I stand corrected though)

You can't have 7 KP's in your team, you need players who can knuckle down and blunt the new ball, especially for someone batting in the top three. I have suspicion that Pujara was tapped in the shoulders, "move the game along or look to rotate strike". That's not his game, his game is to grind the opposition down and bully them later or allow the lower order to face a tiring attack.

I don't think India have a conducive team environment ATM. You can paper over that when you're winning (at home), but when you start losing things get very ugly. How does one drop his vice captain? To me that looks like a poor struggle, "vice captain or not but I'm in charge, you're dispensable like anyone". That's Kohli's message to Rahane.

Not sure about the team environment, we will get to know about that only after someone retires / writes a book from this current XI. My view is as he is ultra aggressive, expects great results from everyone which is not possible but then once the moment passes he cools off rapidly, as he's married no i hope he gains more composure and patience in few aspects of life. I don't think he looks down on anyone off field.

Only positive so far is it has not impacted his batting could have easily scored his 7th double ton if there was support 2 days back.
 
Now we have this dead test it's easy fold up and go down 0-3 or man up and play positively, SA fast bowling > IND fast bowling but at least bat with some intent, there are tours of ENG, AUS, NZ coming in.

PS: I hope we win the toss for a change
 
Good to see him visibly affected by the loss. Hope he can learn something from this to take to the England series.

I prefer this anyday to Dhoni's pokerface 'its not about results but its about the process' kinda post match interviews.

You dont go after journalists. He should learn to keep a calm front. Feel free to unleash your anger in the dressing room on the players. Also be prepared to be questioned on controversial choices. He seems to be losing it everytime someone mentions Rahane. He has been unfair in dropping one of our best batsmen overseas in favour of someone who has been only good in limited overs cricket and he is not willing to accept it because of his ego.
 
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