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After today's blast in lahore what does it do to PSL final in lahore...

I'm 99% sure the final will not take place in lahore ....

it is sad but what do you expect it is Pakistan we are talking about....
 
Very sorry to hear.

RIP victims.

As for PSL final, except PCB and a few Pak fans, no one really felt Pakistan was safe to tour regardless of how much assurances one gave.

Pakistan is a long long way from hosting any international cricket tourneys.
 
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I was planning to travel to lahore for psl final. But this blast has made my trip doubtful
 
I might be superficial here, but I really hope everyone is safe, and the ones affected may they RIP and their families be able to survive through the pain
 
Sad news!!! Hope there are less casualties. RIP to the departed souls. What timing and place of attack, this is definitely an attempt to sabotage the PSL final. Its important to stay strong and nail the perpetrators.

I for one, think the PSL organisers should be firm and hold the final in Lahore come what may, doesn't matter if foreigners refuse to visit, it will send out a strong message of solidarity for the people who lost their lives and will dismantle nefarious designs of the terrorists.

I feel there is still work to be done before cricket comes to Pakistan full fledgedly until then they need to get their house in order.
 
Ohh very sorry to hear about it.

Seems like the security situation isnt really up to the mark even though it might have improved. Attempting to host a significant cricketing event in such an atmosphere will only increase the risk of pushing the realistic goal even further back.
 
I am 99% sure the final will no longer take place in Pakistan. And after this, PCB will stop trying. I'm sure they've had enough. Sorry to say this, but the last and only opportunity of international cricket being back brought to Pakistan has met its sorrowful death.
 
Accept it, Karachi has less bomb blast in recent years than Lahore. Sri Lankan team was also attacked in Lahore....

I hope PSL final in Karachi
 
Sad news!!! Hope there are less casualties. RIP to the departed souls. What timing and place of attack, this is definitely an attempt to sabotage the PSL final. Its important to stay strong and nail the perpetrators.

I for one, think the PSL organisers should be firm and hold the final in Lahore come what may, doesn't matter if foreigners refuse to visit, it will send out a strong message of solidarity for the people who lost their lives and will dismantle nefarious designs of the terrorists.

I feel there is still work to be done before cricket comes to Pakistan full fledgedly until then they need to get their house in order.

In the past that could've happened, but the attack on Srilankan team changed everything... Bomb Blasts had been happening in Pakistan since 2002 but there was no direct on a cricket team touring ever.. until 2009, which was the last straw for the governing bodies
 
Accept it, Karachi has less bomb blast in recent years than Lahore. Sri Lankan team was also attacked in Lahore....

I hope PSL final in Karachi

Yeah and MQM is a joke?! Karachi gang wars are much more of a problem compared to Lahore's terrorism.
 
In the past that could've happened, but the attack on Srilankan team changed everything... Bomb Blasts had been happening in Pakistan since 2002 but there was no direct on a cricket team touring ever.. until 2009, which was the last straw for the governing bodies

Feel sorry for Pakistani fans, hope there is light at the end of the tunnel.
 
As much as i would hate to say this but this seemed invitable to me, because the forces who don't want pak to prosper had to pull of such an incident to make sure that pakistan is still unsafe for such events, so both pcb and us fans should give it a rest untill there is very long time spend without such incident and we fully uproot this terrorist networks and let things take their natural course, because at the end of the day "lives of people are more important than cricket" And Allah may bless those who passed away in this incident and show our nation the right path to peace"
 
Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilahi Rajion.

PCB should still try to hold the PSL final in Lahore. If not possible then try another city of Pakistan like Karachi or Islamabad.
 
It was never coming in the first place, and shouldn't be, extremely selfish of the pcb.
 
I was surprised when I heard Fawad Ahmed on Saturday discussing the final being played in Lahore as I had no idea that it was a possibility. Obviously now that is a non-starter. Such a shame but I guess in the larger context, cricket isn't really that important any more in Pakistan.
 
The thread is about Lahore and the PSL final.

Go to Time Pass for other discussions.

I am talking about Lahore and the PSL final. If foreigners can holiday in countries where terrorists bombs are going up, they can and should come to Lahore for a T20 game!!!
 
no need to bring players in final to Lahore it is unsafe and simply a no go.....Pakistani government need to clean the mess before even thinking about these things it is country filled with all kind of extremists considered bad and good by different mindsets inside Pakistan.

First clean the mess and only than plan anything.
 
First Sharjeel and now blast. What have we Pakistani cricket fans done to deserve this?
 
Let's be honest guys. This happened just 3 weeks before the event when threats and security
alerts were already issued about the attemps to sabotage the event. Above all, it happened
right infront of the Provincial assembly and they were able to target a high profile targe like the DIG of the Traffic Police.

This is clear failure of the law & security enforcement institute and the Governement. Let's accept it and there is no point holding a match just for the sake of it.
 
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Firstly an apology to everyone here.

You guys need a kick on your backside for even having a discussion on PSL when there are people dying in your country.Hold your horses and take a moment and think about the affected.We can have a discussion but not AT THIS TIME.

Extremly shameful.
 
Firstly an apology to everyone here.

You guys need a kick on your backside for even having a discussion on PSL when there are people dying in your country.Hold your horses and take a moment and think about the affected.We can have a discussion but not AT THIS TIME.

Extremly shameful.

Agreed. Where is the humanity?
 
Yes you are right but we cannot assure if this will not happen in Karachi sad :-(

Karachi is literally a hot bed for unrest in Pakistan. Daily shooting news, A city managed by your paramilitary forces is in no way a safe place.
 
Pakistani government of pml-n are in the same bed as the religious extremists as they dont want to take proper action against bombers..... Go Nawaz Go .... for the sake of Pak cricket....
 
Firstly an apology to everyone here.

You guys need a kick on your backside for even having a discussion on PSL when there are people dying in your country.Hold your horses and take a moment and think about the affected.We can have a discussion but not AT THIS TIME.

Extremly shameful.

Yes, you must apologize for this nonsense.

What happened today was a big tragedy and our thoughts are with those who lost their loved ones, but that doesn't mean that we cannot speculate whether the PSL final will be held in Lahore or not.

Life moves on. Are you not getting on with your daily routine or have you stopped everything because of what happened today?

Quit the moral policing and don't attempt to dictate what others do.
 
Firstly an apology to everyone here.

You guys need a kick on your backside for even having a discussion on PSL when there are people dying in your country.Hold your horses and take a moment and think about the affected.We can have a discussion but not AT THIS TIME.

Extremly shameful.

This is a cricket forum, so it's inevitable that items on the news will be viewed from that lens overall. I'm sure everybody has expressed condolences toward the victims in the meantime.
 
Firstly an apology to everyone here.

You guys need a kick on your backside for even having a discussion on PSL when there are people dying in your country.Hold your horses and take a moment and think about the affected.We can have a discussion but not AT THIS TIME.

Extremly shameful.

There is a thread on this topic in the Time Pass section where condolences have been expressed and nothing related to the PSL is being discussed.
 
Yes, you must apologize for this nonsense.

What happened today was a big tragedy and our thoughts are with those who lost their loved ones, but that doesn't mean that we cannot speculate whether the PSL final will be held in Lahore or not.

Life moves on. Are you not getting on with your daily routine or have you stopped everything because of what happened today?

Quit the moral policing and don't attempt to dictate what others do.

Well,I never try to dictate what others do and will never do that.But my only concern is the timing.When your people are dying,when in dire situation these things(PSL) take a backseat and surely have to show some remorse towards the deceased and these things become some petty things to be discussed.

This is not a moral policing.This is just about being a human.If you put yourself in their place you will get to know how much and what they have lost today.

This is all something that I have experienced first hand and I am just speaking out how it is going to feel when somebody talks about PSL rather than the people who have lost everything.

You can now post whatever you like,your choice but just my viewpoint and how I look at things and I am sure many,like me,will also be in the same queue.
 
Oh no.... extremely sad new.. rip all souls. :(

Better not do a final there now. It's unsafe for players and future of Pakistan. Because if another 2009 like incident happens then it will mean no international cricket at all in Pakistan
 
Dawn Linkhttp://www.dawn.com/news/1314559
Pakistan Super League (PSL) Chairman Najam Sethi promised cricket fans in Pakistan that the PSL final will be held in the city of Lahore, even in the absence of foreign players, if the fans do not want the venue to change following Monday's bombing.

“The foreign players have refused to play the final in Lahore after Monday’s blast, but if the citizens of Pakistan want the final of PSL to be held in Lahore despite foreign players not participating in the final, then the final will be held in Lahore," said Sethi in his statement.

Sethi added that the security agencies have committed to providing full security for the final.

Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah said that Punjab is ready to host the final of PSL with full security and added that Lahore is safe for the players even after Monday’s bombing.

Earlier, Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), before the start of the league, held a meeting with foreign players to assure them regarding security.

The final for the PSL is scheduled to be held on March 5 in Lahore and PCB have yet to announce any new dates and will decide after contacting the concern departments about security.
 
The final will still sell out even if foreign players don't participate. It would be a good decision to still go ahead with it in Lahore imo.
 
First condolences to the families of all the victims of the today's blast.

I dont think it's safe to have any major cricketing event in Pakistan at this time. After this blast, I don't think any foreign player would even attend a security briefing, let alone play a match in Lahore.
 
Final can be held without foreign players in Lahore but forget about foreign players playing in Pakistan for a long long time.

It's sad but true.
 
Pakistan isn't safe and something that every Pakistani should realise. If I was a foreign player, I wouldn't risk my life by going to Pakistan no matter how much money I'm paid. The final shouldn't be held in Pakistan.
 
Good. Arrange final of this year PSL in Lahore even without foreign players and bring the whole PSL back in Pakistan next year even without foreign players or players from Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and Windies maybe, who are willing to play in Pakistan. Change 4 foreign players rule in playing 11 to 2 foreign players and go ahead with the next edition of PSL in Pakistan. Its eventual home is Pakistan and it has to be played in Pakistan.
 
Something bad always seems to happen right before:facepalm:

In 2015 I remember something happened before the Zim series. Thankfully it went on...
 
It's a Catch-22 situation.

By making it such a big deal to have foreign players, the PCB is creating a red rag to wave to a bull. Having foreign players is made to be a bigger event than the tournament itself.

And as such it gets to be seen as a political event and not a cricket tournament.

The PCB should have simply held the PSL in Pakistan, without any razzmatazz about foreign players. If they came, good. If they didn't come, no big deal.

Slowly, it would have just become a cricket tournament (just like any other domestic cricket tournament in Pakistan - which aren't specifically targets for terrorists). Once the foreign players had seen it being just a cricket tournament, and not a political event that was a target for terrorists, they would have started coming.
 
Well,I never try to dictate what others do and will never do that.But my only concern is the timing.When your people are dying,when in dire situation these things(PSL) take a backseat and surely have to show some remorse towards the deceased and these things become some petty things to be discussed.

This is not a moral policing.This is just about being a human.If you put yourself in their place you will get to know how much and what they have lost today.

This is all something that I have experienced first hand and I am just speaking out how it is going to feel when somebody talks about PSL rather than the people who have lost everything.

You can now post whatever you like,your choice but just my viewpoint and how I look at things and I am sure many,like me,will also be in the same queue.

I am from a city that has seen more bomb blasts than any other major city in Pakistan and my job is such that I have seen the victims firsthand as well as the anguish of their families.

The point is that the way you ranted against posters who were discussing the PSL final was definitely moral policing, because you assumed that they weren't bothered about the tragedy and were only concerned with cricket, which is obviously strictly not true.

There is a thread on the Time Pass section for the tragedy. This however, is related to PSL and the impact of the blast on the prospects of hosting the final in Lahore. Your tone was judgmental; all of us care about the tragedy, even if we are talking about cricket.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan army chief "Army will extend full support to all concerned for holding PSL final as scheduled in Lahore" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/psl2017?src=hash">#psl2017</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/831550451984302080">February 14, 2017</a></blockquote>
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If the foreign players do not play, then we will not gain anything. Might as well rename it the "Faysal Bank T20 Cup"
 
If the foreign players do not participate, the chances are that the franchise might not agree to the final since some teams would loose more than the other. It will not be an acceptable final. Having said that, I am all for "never bow down to terrorism".. hence personally, doing anything that can off the terrorist, I am all for it (hence I was also disspointed about a ban in valentines day).
 
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Good. Arrange final of this year PSL in Lahore even without foreign players and bring the whole PSL back in Pakistan next year even without foreign players or players from Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and Windies maybe, who are willing to play in Pakistan. Change 4 foreign players rule in playing 11 to 2 foreign players and go ahead with the next edition of PSL in Pakistan. Its eventual home is Pakistan and it has to be played in Pakistan.

PSL is about foreign players. No one would care about PSL without foreign players. Without the foreign players, it will like all the crappy T20 tournaments like National Cup. No one cares about rubbish and overweight Pakistani players. The foreign players bring in the revenue and the ratings. Once again Pakistani fans not thinking logically. Pakistan isn't safe to hold major sporting events. Simple as that.
 
PSL is about foreign players. No one would care about PSL without foreign players. Without the foreign players, it will like all the crappy T20 tournaments like National Cup. No one cares about rubbish and overweight Pakistani players. The foreign players bring in the revenue and the ratings. Once again Pakistani fans not thinking logically. Pakistan isn't safe to hold major sporting events. Simple as that.

Its none other than you sitting in London and not thinking logically. PPl in Pak are dying to see cricket as they have been deprived of it since long time, the stadium will be full if its held in Lahore.There is no point of having the entire tour in UAE, if 1 or 2 matches can't be held anywhere in Pak, then there is no point in having PSL in the first place.
 
Its none other than you sitting in London and not thinking logically. PPl in Pak are dying to see cricket as they have been deprived of it since long time, the stadium will be full if its held in Lahore.There is no point of having the entire tour in UAE, if 1 or 2 matches can't be held anywhere in Pak, then there is no point in having PSL in the first place.

Well too bad if Pakistani people are dying to see cricket in Pakistan. We can't risk the lives of cricketers just to please the fans.
 
Its none other than you sitting in London and not thinking logically. PPl in Pak are dying to see cricket as they have been deprived of it since long time, the stadium will be full if its held in Lahore.There is no point of having the entire tour in UAE, if 1 or 2 matches can't be held anywhere in Pak, then there is no point in having PSL in the first place.

You are not thinking at all bro!
Having the match in Lahore would be a serious headache for all the involved. Its not like people would be allowed to freely walk in. I don't think you have attended any matches live in the subcontinent?
It would be a military fortress if the match is played in Lahore.
 
You are not thinking at all bro!
Having the match in Lahore would be a serious headache for all the involved. Its not like people would be allowed to freely walk in. I don't think you have attended any matches live in the subcontinent?
It would be a military fortress if the match is played in Lahore.

I have attended matches held in Pak, unlike you. PPL who will be coming to see the match will know all what you have written but will still go and see the match, the atmosphere in Lahore will be fantastic , something which we can never expect in UAE.
IN any case the decision has been made and final will be held in Lahore
 
If the foreign players do not participate, the chances are that the franchise might not agree to the final since some teams would loose more than the other. It will not be an acceptable final. Having said that, I am all for "never bow down to terrorism".. hence personally, doing anything that can off the terrorist, I am all for it (hence I was also disspointed about a ban in valentines day).

This could be true, some franchises might not agree to it if their key players will be missing, it could change the whole dynamics ofor the team.
 
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I have attended matches held in Pak, unlike you. PPL who will be coming to see the match will know all what you have written but will still go and see the match, the atmosphere in Lahore will be fantastic , something which we can never expect in UAE.
IN any case the decision has been made and final will be held in Lahore

The final won't be held in Lahore. Except an announcement soon. You can't play without the foreign players especially when many teams are quite reliant on their foreign players.
 
Well too bad if Pakistani people are dying to see cricket in Pakistan. We can't risk the lives of cricketers just to please the fans.

WE??? are you PCB ? Decision has been made and final will be in Lahore, PCb is more concerned about Pak ppl than foreign fans.
 
Accept it, Karachi has less bomb blast in recent years than Lahore. Sri Lankan team was also attacked in Lahore....

I hope PSL final in Karachi

What is the point?

The whole purpose of hosting it in Lahore was to show Pak is safe. With Lahore blast, it clearly proves FICA was right and PCB got it horribly wrong.
 
The final won't be held in Lahore. Except an announcement soon. You can't play without the foreign players especially when many teams are quite reliant on their foreign players.

Sethi already said that final will be in Lahore without foreign players, actually this was always going to be the case.
 
PSL is about foreign players. No one would care about PSL without foreign players. Without the foreign players, it will like all the crappy T20 tournaments like National Cup. No one cares about rubbish and overweight Pakistani players. The foreign players bring in the revenue and the ratings. Once again Pakistani fans not thinking logically. Pakistan isn't safe to hold major sporting events. Simple as that.

Heard of national T20 blast, the England T20 tournament? They don't have many foreign players but still they are getting it right. New Zealand T20 tournament, South African T20 tournament, they do not depend much upon foreign players and still they are getting talent through.
The problem is not foreign players, the problem is quality. In national T20, you get a tournament of I think 16 teams. In super 8 T20 tournament, you have 8 teams with 2 from Karachi and 2 from Lahore. How will a Karachi Blue vs Karachi White match attract people. And add to that, some low level broadcasting quality with Chishti Mujahid and Haroon Rasheed doing commentary in Urdu.
When there will be six teams for a tournament with all this franchise system and hype. You will see houseful in every match and quality will also not be that low as of Super 8 tournament or National T20 tournament.
There is also an outside chance of Afghanistan, Sri Lankan, Windies players agreeing to play in Pakistan.
 
Heard of national T20 blast, the England T20 tournament? They don't have many foreign players but still they are getting it right.

Not sure I'd call the majority of the 18 teams regularly fielding 2 overseas players for most of the tournament not many foreign players.
 
Heard of national T20 blast, the England T20 tournament? They don't have many foreign players but still they are getting it right. New Zealand T20 tournament, South African T20 tournament, they do not depend much upon foreign players and still they are getting talent through.
The problem is not foreign players, the problem is quality. In national T20, you get a tournament of I think 16 teams. In super 8 T20 tournament, you have 8 teams with 2 from Karachi and 2 from Lahore. How will a Karachi Blue vs Karachi White match attract people. And add to that, some low level broadcasting quality with Chishti Mujahid and Haroon Rasheed doing commentary in Urdu.
When there will be six teams for a tournament with all this franchise system and hype. You will see houseful in every match and quality will also not be that low as of Super 8 tournament or National T20 tournament.
There is also an outside chance of Afghanistan, Sri Lankan, Windies players agreeing to play in Pakistan.

Well you have a point but atm PSL is about foreign players. Of course it would be great if we have a franchise style T20 league held in Pakistan but unfortunately we are going to have to do with crappy National T20 competition for now on.
 
I can assure everyone that if the final is held in lahore, it will be great regardless of participation of foreign players.The tour being played so far in UAE has been crappy though.
 
PSL is about foreign players. No one would care about PSL without foreign players. Without the foreign players, it will like all the crappy T20 tournaments like National Cup. No one cares about rubbish and overweight Pakistani players. The foreign players bring in the revenue and the ratings. Once again Pakistani fans not thinking logically. Pakistan isn't safe to hold major sporting events. Simple as that.

True indeed. We should ban Pak players participation in future events, as no one really wants to see them.The products should be 100 percent foreign and the location should be foreign too, too bad the name isn't foreign.
 
Pakistan is not safe, all those who thought otherwise are deluded

Being safe or unsafe isn't a binary situation. Cities and regions gradually descend and come out of chaos. Without a shadow of doubt, situation in Pakistan is much safer now compared to 2-3 years ago, whatever the reasons may be. You can say, that it's 'much less dangerous' now, but the point stands.

PSL is the only way, cricket can come back to Pakistan. I do hope that the final will take place in Lahore or some other Pakistani city.

The loss of human lives is immensely tragic, but one of the best responses to the cowards behind such atrocities is to band together and to marginalize them and their ideologies by rejecting fear. As a Pakistani living abroad, I am fully aware of the hypocrisy of issuing these grandiose statements, while sitting out, but my personal situation doesn't change that basic premise.
 
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Karachi is literally a hot bed for unrest in Pakistan. Daily shooting news, A city managed by your paramilitary forces is in no way a safe place.

Which other metropolitan region in the world with population in tens of million, doesn't have daily shooting? I have been to Karachi many times in past few years - rode on public buses and other transport, drove rental cars, walked and jogged miles, and have travelled way past midnight through different parts of the city. Karachi has lots of problems and high rate of crimes is definitely one of the primary ones, with the other more common megacity issues like poor infrastructure, high commodity prices, and extreme lack of civic resources and planning coupled with insanely high population density.

Still, it's remotely not as dire as what you think, thankfully.
 
I'm afraid it will be at least two generations before cricket returns to that part of the world.
This is completely unacceptable, may the victims rest in peace.
 
Which other metropolitan region in the world with population in tens of million, doesn't have daily shooting? I have been to Karachi many times in past few years - rode on public buses and other transport, drove rental cars, walked and jogged miles, and have travelled way past midnight through different parts of the city. Karachi has lots of problems and high rate of crimes is definitely one of the primary ones, with the other more common megacity issues like poor infrastructure, high commodity prices, and extreme lack of civic resources and planning coupled with insanely high population density.

Still, it's remotely not as dire as what you think, thankfully.

Every localite gets immune to all the vagaries of their city sir! But a simple thing that can show city can be described unsafe is when paramilitary operations are ongoing in it. Pakistanis may not realize it but law and order being maintained in civilian areas not maintained by Police is sign of serious threat perception automatically.
 
The 2009 attack on the SL team in Pakistan

if I recall correctly, ijaz butt was at the helm back in those days, and had promised presidential level security. he of course failed on that promise and has as a consequence done immeasurable damage to pakistan cricket.

I was wondering if anyone knows or can link any information as to the results of any enquiry as to what happened. just a hunch, but I would imagine it would be helpful for the ICA to understand what the shortcomings were, and how they have been remedied to give some confidence to anyone who might be considering playing in pakistan.

I seem to recall reports of how the police chief at the time of the attack was absent, as were other key personnel, but don't suppose anyone was held accountable of course...
 
No need for an enquiry as Zardari was in charge. And it wasnt Ijaz butts job to provide security. he was assured of such by the punjab government. This was entirely the fault of the late Salman taseer. But because he was killed nobody wants to talk ill of the dead. The terrorists knew when the government was going to change, and that taseer was going to change the security personnel who were going to change the security plan. How did the sandal wearing find out? simple they had inside information.

there are only a number of ways you can do this:

a) a foreign agency with spies inside
b) terrorist sympathisers within that leaked info

either way its damning. and points to a bigger conspiracy..bbut lets not talk about it because you know Taseer got killed by a fanatic so all is forgiven..
 
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In order to Hold PSL Final in the Lahore we only need to provide teams with the "Hamza Shahbaz" level of security, let alone President Level.

If anyone ever watched Hamza Shahbaz protocol they might know what I am talking about and how national resources are abused and not spent where they required most. Same thing happened in 2009 as well.
 
if showbaaz cant even provide security for a handful of foreign players then whats the point?
 
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