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How would the Indian batting line up fare in the UAE?

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Would they be able to bat at a strike rate of 4-5 runs per over compared to our boys? Will they look worlds apart when it comes to playing spin? Will they be able to find a way to play their strokes on pitches where the ball does not come on to the bat and where the outfield is slow? Will they let the unbearable heat affect their concentration levels?

Just thought i would ask this out of curiousity because its been ages since i saw an Indian team play in the UAE and i am just wondering whether the current generation of Indian batsmen will boss Pakistan and show us how it is done?
 
India would score 400 consistently on UAE pitches. Indian batsmen sometimes struggle on rank turners. But UAE offers slow turn. Enough time to play the ball.

The likes of Dhawan, Pujara and even Kohli will score massively on these surfaces. Rahane who is somewhat weak against spin will also play well on UAE pitches.

It will be intersting to see how Ashwin/Jaddu/Kuldeep bowl there.

Shami/Yadav will definitely outperform what Amir and Abbas has done.
 
In Asian conditions we are num 1 by a long distance.
SA tour will tell us how will this team do in non Asia n non wi conditions
 
They won't lose 20 wickets for sure - very tough to imagine. But, I am not sure how much Indians would enjoy batting here - Pujara, Vijay, Ashwin definitely, probably Saha as well; but Kohli, Sharma, Dhawan, KL & Rahne will struggle to keep their temper on such dross. These are top handed touch players, who loves the ball on bat at a good pace & consistent height.
 
MMHS said:
They won't lose 20 wickets for sure - very tough to imagine. But, I am not sure how much Indians would enjoy batting here - Pujara, Vijay, Ashwin definitely, probably Saha as well; but Kohli, Sharma, Dhawan, KL & Rahne will struggle to keep their temper on such dross. These are top handed touch players, who loves the ball on bat at a good pace & consistent height.
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Sharma doesn't play test cricket, he's not even in the squad, forget the XI. And neither would you see both of Rahul and Dhawan in the starting XI if Vijay is fit.

You could see a scenario where there would be a flutter or 2 with the pink ball under lights, but outside of that, this lineup would be a safe bet to pile up 550+.

By the way, it looks like Aussies are taking a leaf out of Amir's book in attacking the Indian batsmen in the ongoing T20. Both Virat and Sharma got out to the quick in-dipper.
 
They will score 400+ every time at a run rate of 3. Their batsmen are not cowards and stroke-less wonders.
 
Mamoon said:
They will score 400+ every time at a run rate of 3 if they win the toss. Their batsmen are not cowards unless the situation or conditions get a bit tough.
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Totally agree with you mate
 
Mamoon said:
They will score 400+ every time at a run rate of 3. Their batsmen are not cowards and stroke-less wonders.
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Most likely 500 in the first innings, every match or every other game, on this kind of Surface Jadeja & Pandya would smash less than (in form) world class bowlers to all parts of the ground. Jadeja on dead tracks is a monster, probably Pandya as well.
 
Savak said:
Would they be able to bat at a strike rate of 4-5 runs per over compared to our boys? Will they look worlds apart when it comes to playing spin? Will they be able to find a way to play their strokes on pitches where the ball does not come on to the bat and where the outfield is slow? Will they let the unbearable heat affect their concentration levels?
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Given that Karunaratne was able to score 196, I believe better batsmen like Pujara, Rahane, Kohli, Rahul and Vijay would all get pretty big scores.
 
R0H1T said:
Most likely 500 in the first innings, every match or every other game, on this kind of Surface Jadeja & Pandya would smash less than (in form) world class bowlers to all parts of the ground. Jadeja on dead tracks is a monster, probably Pandya as well.
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Yes 500 in the first innings is a given. India is leagues above us in batting.
 
I wouldn't say they ll beat us but their batsmen 'll definitely score with 80+ SR and pile up runs like no tomorrow.
 
Big first inning runs on the card.

Everyone will score but Pujara would most likely outshine all given the UAE conditions.

We will also be having three spinners in XI.
 
IndYeah1 said:
Sharma doesn't play test cricket, he's not even in the squad, forget the XI. And neither would you see both of Rahul and Dhawan in the starting XI if Vijay is fit.

You could see a scenario where there would be a flutter or 2 with the pink ball under lights, but outside of that, this lineup would be a safe bet to pile up 550+.

By the way, it looks like Aussies are taking a leaf out of Amir's book in attacking the Indian batsmen in the ongoing T20. Both Virat and Sharma got out to the quick in-dipper.
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That's in T20, not in cricket.

My little knowledge tells, Indians are best on their legs, so anything coming inwards should need 3 men on leg boundary - they struggle most on anything that moves away, when on front foot, because then they are forced to shift balance to back foot on their defensive shots.

May be in cricket it's important to know where the off stick is, in T20 where the leg stick .......
 
Indian batting is in dire straits, the worst Indian batting line up since may be 1992 team I say. Absolutely inconsistent and non dependable,pure jokers in terms of consistency.So in UAE, it will all boil down to how Pujara Plays,One man Army
 
lehen said:
Indian batting is in dire straits, the worst Indian batting line up since may be 1992 team I say. Absolutely inconsistent and non dependable,pure jokers in terms of consistency.So in UAE, it will all boil down to how Pujara Plays,One man Army
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man our test batting far more settled .may be u r confusing it with odis
 
lehen said:
Indian batting is in dire straits, the worst Indian batting line up since may be 1992 team I say. Absolutely inconsistent and non dependable,pure jokers in terms of consistency.So in UAE, it will all boil down to how Pujara Plays,One man Army
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Oh bhai that's our odi and T20 team and even than we have players who can replace guys like pandey and jadhav, even dhoni if not for our stubborn captain Kohli.
 
600-700 runs every innings. Indian batsmen are raised to bat on slow pitches like the UAE.
 
Savak said:
Would they be able to bat at a strike rate of 4-5 runs per over compared to our boys? Will they look worlds apart when it comes to playing spin? Will they be able to find a way to play their strokes on pitches where the ball does not come on to the bat and where the outfield is slow? Will they let the unbearable heat affect their concentration levels?

Just thought i would ask this out of curiousity because its been ages since i saw an Indian team play in the UAE and i am just wondering whether the current generation of Indian batsmen will boss Pakistan and show us how it is done?
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They would outbat us in the first innings and we will be chasing the game
 
500+ in every 1st innings as long as they have Pujara. Best player of spin in current. By far the best I should say. Play difficult spells with ease and almost always set a good platform for the middle order..
 
They could bat for 5 days if they had to.

Seriously though guys like Kohli would be immovable from the crease.
 
Saj said:
They could bat for 5 days if they had to.

Seriously though guys like Kohli would be immovable from the crease.
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I do think that Indians will bat better than any other team on average in UAE, but batting for 5 days is not going to happen. They lack collective patience for that. I meant, they are mostly stroke makers and it's hard to last even 3 days for any team if batsmen go for their strokes.

Indians are likely to put big totals in first innings, but I don't think that they will last for 3 days. They will simply score much quicker so big totals will come.

Now, if Pakistan plays with only one spinner then all bets are off. I was talking when a sensible team is playing against them.
 
Bubby said:
Oh bhai that's our odi and T20 team and even than we have players who can replace guys like pandey and jadhav, even dhoni if not for our stubborn captain Kohli.
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May I have the names of those folks? Man,Desi fans are such fickle-minded folks.Few Months ago, they wanted Pandey in the team in place of Yuvi and now they want replacement for him too?
 
India would be able to score around 500 in 1st innings and probably bat the opposition out of the game. However, people assuming they would score around 4-5 an over is probably overestimating. At best India would be able to maintain 3-3.5 an over.
 
They would score heavily no doubt. The best test batting line up in the world. If Kohli doesn't get you, Rahane might, if not him Pujara could, KL Rahul seems capable of scoring at a brisk rate regardless of the conditions.

Overall a brilliant batting line up that can do well in most conditions.
 
Hasan123 said:
They would score heavily no doubt. The best test batting line up in the world. If Kohli doesn't get you, Rahane might, if not him Pujara could, KL Rahul seems capable of scoring at a brisk rate regardless of the conditions.

Overall a brilliant batting line up that can do well in most conditions.
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Too much over hype.
 
Hasan123 said:
They would score heavily no doubt. The best test batting line up in the world. If Kohli doesn't get you, Rahane might, if not him Pujara could, KL Rahul seems capable of scoring at a brisk rate regardless of the conditions.

Overall a brilliant batting line up that can do well in most conditions.
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Lol BEST? may be 3rd or 4th
 
Dingolfy said:
May I have the names of those folks? Man,Desi fans are such fickle-minded folks.Few Months ago, they wanted Pandey in the team in place of Yuvi and now they want replacement for him too?
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Pant, Rahul, iyer, Shankar to name a few, people will say pant was struggling in windies but that was his 1st series and he was playing his 1st match so he was bound to struggle.
 
Bubby said:
Pant, Rahul, iyer, Shankar to name a few, people will say pant was struggling in windies but that was his 1st series and he was playing his 1st match so he was bound to struggle.
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Prithvi shaw, priyank panchal, Nitish Rana, Baba Indrajith
 
We will struggle big time against the likes of wahab and Amir considering the history of the struggles we have against genuine left arm quicks and the 2nd T20 was another example of how any side can steamroll Indian players that seem to have a very difficult time handling balls that nip back into the right hander or hold its length. I would say 2- 0 to Pakistan if both of these seamers are fully fit playing for their team
 
mystical man said:
We will struggle big time against the likes of wahab and Amir considering the history of the struggles we have against genuine left arm quicks and the 2nd T20 was another example of how any side can steamroll Indian players that seem to have a very difficult time handling balls that nip back into the right hander or hold its length. I would say 2- 0 to Pakistan if both of these seamers are fully fit playing for their team
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You are confusing with one dayers. In Tests M Vijay/Rahul/Dhawan. They don't have issues with any lefties.
 
Saj said:
They could bat for 5 days if they had to.

Seriously though guys like Kohli would be immovable from the crease.
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You are wrong as Kohli will not be immovable but dancing on the crease while Amir is bowling to him
 
jnaveen1980 said:
You are confusing with one dayers. In Tests M Vijay/Rahul/Dhawan. They don't have issues with any lefties.
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Bangar needs to sort this out before it is exposed to the whole world and I am not convinced that even the likes of Dhawan and Murali along with Rahul will do well...
 
jnaveen1980 said:
You are confusing with one dayers. In Tests M Vijay/Rahul/Dhawan. They don't have issues with any lefties.
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lehen said:
Indian batting is in dire straits, the worst Indian batting line up since may be 1992 team I say. Absolutely inconsistent and non dependable,pure jokers in terms of consistency.So in UAE, it will all boil down to how Pujara Plays,One man Army
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It is definitely better than the 90s and the current pakistani batsmen actually remind me of the Indian batsmen that were playing for their place in the team or fixing games
 
lehen said:
Indian batting is in dire straits, the worst Indian batting line up since may be 1992 team I say. Absolutely inconsistent and non dependable,pure jokers in terms of consistency.So in UAE, it will all boil down to how Pujara Plays,One man Army
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In recent Test matches the Indian team has had more 600+ innings than any other team ever.
 
MMHS said:
That's in T20, not in cricket.

My little knowledge tells, Indians are best on their legs, so anything coming inwards should need 3 men on leg boundary - they struggle most on anything that moves away, when on front foot, because then they are forced to shift balance to back foot on their defensive shots.

May be in cricket it's important to know where the off stick is, in T20 where the leg stick .......
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Say that to the top 4 that keep getting bowled again and again... This is an obvious glaring weakness that will be exposed by other teams across the world.
 
India will probably score 600+ for 2-3 wickets with Kohli scoring a triple century and both Rahane ad Pujara hitting centuries.
 
Napa said:
In recent Test matches the Indian team has had more 600+ innings than any other team ever.
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None of the teams had a genuine left handed fast bowler like Amir Wahab or even Mustafizur who has done very well against India
 
mystical man said:
None of the teams had a genuine left handed fast bowler like Amir Wahab or even Mustafizur who has done very well against India
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NZ had Trent Boult when they toured us in 2016. I still dont buy that any of those 3 mentioned bowlers would make any difference. None of those 3 bowlers are even in top10 in rankings nor they have done anything signficant in their career so far( for Amir since his return, have been pretty ordinary)

You’re only claiming based on one or two spell of Amir in LOIs. Mustafiz apart from his debut series have been struggling against us. His cutters are no longer threat to us, and his gun barrel straight pies wont do much damage.

Edit: I forgot to mention that Australia had M Starc, the best Left Arm Fast bowler in the world.
 
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mystical man said:
None of the teams had a genuine left handed fast bowler like Amir Wahab or even Mustafizur who has done very well against India
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Yes, Amir who was not able to take a wicket against SL (who lost 9-0 to India) would destroy India. Makes perfect sense.
 
Bubby said:
Pant, Rahul, iyer, Shankar to name a few, people will say pant was struggling in windies but that was his 1st series and he was playing his 1st match so he was bound to struggle.
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Pant and Shankar struggled to put bat on ball in our recent A-tour against South Africa in which Pandey was the star performer. Shankar is struggling again now against NZ-A team lallus. Rahul is already in our team and could replace Rohit in future.
And about Jadhav. Have you even seen his List-A stats? He has scored more than scored 4000 runs with an average of 48.70 at a strike rate of 107.54 which none of these blokes have.
So how can these new kids on the block who has less runs and experience than Jadhav at a lesser strike rate can replace him in Indian team? At least Jadhav has a 120 against England successfully chasing a 350 plus score.These kids can't even score against second string A teams.
 
In Test , India is far far ahead of Pak, we can celebrate a fluke or two in T20 or ODi but in tests ( real cricket)
I would say India will bat once every time they play against us
 
Dingolfy said:
Pant and Shankar struggled to put bat on ball in our recent A-tour against South Africa in which Pandey was the star performer. Shankar is struggling again now against NZ-A team lallus. Rahul is already in our team and could replace Rohit in future.
And about Jadhav. Have you even seen his List-A stats? He has scored more than scored 4000 runs with an average of 48.70 at a strike rate of 107.54 which none of these blokes have.
So how can these new kids on the block who has less runs and experience than Jadhav at a lesser strike rate can replace him in Indian team? At least Jadhav has a 120 against England successfully chasing a 350 plus score.These kids can't even score against second string A teams.
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Shankar's problem is more physical than technique, for those who have seen him know that he is a more than capable bat,also he can bowl medium pace, regarding pant, pant ,those pitches were difficult to bat on and it was his Firdt A tour of South Africa, he is too big a talent to lose,while jadhav is already 30 plus and he clearly struggle against spin, pant is very young and shown what he can do.
 
PP as usual going overboard.

India is strong in Asia cos we play as a team. Have a bunch of clutch test players.

Dull boring pitches in UAE where you can stay easily but not score quickly (barring exceptions) doesn't suit Indian batsmen who like the ball coming on to the bat. You can see what happened in WI in similar pitches. But we won't lose easily cos someone or the other will put up their hand and score the important runs.

Someone like Rahul or Dhawan clicking can get us off to a great start. But apart from them, we will grind the runs slowly in these pitches.

It's our bowling that is deadly. Shami and Umesh to start with and then 3 spinners coming at you relentlessly for 75-100 overs.

Good luck with that. :))
 
Hasan123 said:
Which batting line up are better?
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Currently , India has 4 batsmen in top 10 ranking. Arguing that they are not the best batting line up is meaningless. Rarely, you get 4 bowlers or 4 batsmen from same team in the top 10.
 
mystical man said:
We will struggle big time against the likes of wahab and Amir considering the history of the struggles we have against genuine left arm quicks and the 2nd T20 was another example of how any side can steamroll Indian players that seem to have a very difficult time handling balls that nip back into the right hander or hold its length. I would say 2- 0 to Pakistan if both of these seamers are fully fit playing for their team
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We could struggle against genuine left arm quicks, because all the top batsmen across the history of cricket have struggled to do so. However, we will struggle against genuine quicks, not trundlers like amir and wahab!
 
R0H1T said:
Based on what your hypothesis, what;s he done against us in India, random T20 don;t matter!
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How many test matches have we played against Pakistan to know that? Moreover it is a glaring weakness that was observed by me and looked like a repeat of champions trophy after seeing that new rookie bowler in the second T20 match
 
The harsh reality is that currently if India and Pakistan played a Test seres in Asia, India would be overwhelming favourites.

However I would expect a much closer encounter in more seamer-friendly conditions.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
PP as usual going overboard.

India is strong in Asia cos we play as a team. Have a bunch of clutch test players.

Dull boring pitches in UAE where you can stay easily but not score quickly (barring exceptions) doesn't suit Indian batsmen who like the ball coming on to the bat. You can see what happened in WI in similar pitches. But we won't lose easily cos someone or the other will put up their hand and score the important runs.

Someone like Rahul or Dhawan clicking can get us off to a great start. But apart from them, we will grind the runs slowly in these pitches.

It's our bowling that is deadly. Shami and Umesh to start with and then 3 spinners coming at you relentlessly for 75-100 overs.

Good luck with that. :))
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Perfect, by word.
 
Saj said:
The harsh reality is that currently if India and Pakistan played a Test seres in Asia, India would be overwhelming favourites.

However I would expect a much closer encounter in more seamer-friendly conditions.
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Pakistan has a history of punching above their weight and doing well when complete underdogs and devoid of any expectations.
 
Savak said:
Pakistan has a history of punching above their weight and doing well when complete underdogs and devoid of any expectations.
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At the moment they aren't even punching below their own weight.
 
Saj said:
At the moment they aren't even punching below their own weight.
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Saj bhai you must meet these cricketers often right... can’t you tell them to up their game?

Also can you tell them to play 2 spinners no matter what in the UAE
 
Pandya is another exciting addition to the line up. I remember Bhuvaneswar Kumar scoring 3 fifties in 3 innings during England tour. India has so many young off spinning all rounders at their disposal. England has awesome tail as well.
 
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