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There is no short-cut out of this mess

Growing up through the 90s watching Pakistan team filled with World class players, people like me feel the pinch of this mediocrity on show by Pakistan cricket team.

Pakistan a proud cricket nation with so much to offer is reeling. I think it’s about time we realize that there is no short cut out of this mess. If Pakistan cricket has to survive and thrive, Only way forward is building a system based on professionalism and strong work ethic.

I really hope Wasim khan can implement his idea and all the leeches of PCB can let him do his stuff. Results surely won’t show straight away but this is the only way out of this mess
 
You see the problem all the other threads with magical selections, and sacking coach and captain will solve the problem have tongs of replies, but no one is interested in no short cut strategy.
 
Over the years I have passionately immensely supported Pakistan when they win. When they lose.
I used to sacrifice my time and my sleep fight with my family who used to tease me all the time in me watching them lose.
The losses against India used to hurt upset and get me really angry.
I still continued to support the team but criticise them when it was needed.

This is the first time and the first major tournament that I have no hopes of. 0% chance of Pakistan getting into the semi's let alone win the World Cup.

Today I gabe 0% chance to Pakistan beating India and also ending the losing streak plus keeping their world cup hopes alive.

The CT2017 win did more damage to Pakistan Cricket than it did good and this damage showed in the series against Australia then England.

And now the World Cup!!

The team lacks mental strength
The team lacks rhythm
The team lacks aggression
The team lacks fearless attitude
The team lacks energy, flair, style.
The team lacks basics of cricket knowledge.

Pakistan has regressed when other teams have progressed.

A whole revamp in the PCB is needed and this embarassing shambolic shameful World Cup by Pakistan.

This spanking loss by the hands of Formidable India team will start off by Pakistan hitting rock bottom and then rising.

Why?

Because this is the end of Safraz as captain.
This is the end of Malik and Hafeez
Hassan Ali needs to go back to the basics.
This should be the end of Inzi as chief selector.
And most importantly.

Mickey arthur as coach
Azhar Mahmoud as bowling coach.

I am still grasping on what I predicted at the start.

This World Cup has got Eng Vs Ind final all over it with England being the ones to stop this Indian team!!

India were always going to win whether bat first or bowl. Pakistan are never going to beat India in a World Cup because of their weak mentality.

So once again well done and Congrats to India and Indian fans.

Schooled Pakistan once again and gave us pure classy cricket shots.
 
You see the problem all the other threads with magical selections, and sacking coach and captain will solve the problem have tongs of replies, but no one is interested in no short cut strategy.

That’s the problem

These short term fixes are only going to work for a little while but when there is no system to nurture our players we will be moving in circles and again end up here even if we end up winning tournaments once in a blue moon
 
Shadab,shahen, Hasnain haven’t played even 1 complete first class season. Back in the day counties would have nurtured them but it doesn’t happen anymore. Unless we provide talented guys like these a platform to perfect their skills by toiling in domestics they won’t become consistent performers and would never have full command on their skills
 
That’s the problem

These short term fixes are only going to work for a little while but when there is no system to nurture our players we will be moving in circles and again end up here even if we end up winning tournaments once in a blue moon

I was explaining this to one expert here a few days ago, and he was emphasizing on winning the world cup with jazba it would have been alright if fans were like this, unfortunately, the whole nation and its think tank focused on jazba and aggression.

I don't think these unprofessional players will do anything special in today's cricket where you see likes of Kohli dominating who are mentally and physically superior. These players are not the product of luck; they need proper planning and structure.

In Pakistani setup, no one is interested in changing anything all they want is fast results and short cuts, and they will get us nowhere. Stay tuned for this misery to continue not only in cricket but everywhere in the country apparently, we are going down the same path in every fact of life.
 
Shadab,shahen, Hasnain haven’t played even 1 complete first class season. Back in the day counties would have nurtured them but it doesn’t happen anymore. Unless we provide talented guys like these a platform to perfect their skills by toiling in domestics they won’t become consistent performers and would never have full command on their skills

One expert was advocating selection of players based on cricket IQ so what is domestic cricket and who needs it we needed Haris Rauf to win us the world cup and we missed it.

We are where we deserve to be there is nothing to be amazed about.
 
of course there is:
change coach captain and selectors
drop the players i dont like
include the players i like
and play "with aggression"
and we will win

I should add that in the middle of a tournament you cant do any strategic stuff, so you need individuals to spark and carry the team.

The long terms stuff can be done post world cup
 
We as a nation are mediocre in handling politics sports health care infrastructure law and order so why do people like Imran Khan think that bringing the Sheffield shield structure will improve the cricket in Pakistan it won’t we have no talent and no mental strength our players literally play for Pakistan to make a good living in the domestic u can barely make enough for bread so I don’t wanna go on and on it is what it is
 
Many Pakistanis haven't realised that the most successful nations are built on strong institutions and systems. That goes for sport too. We cry out for messiahs and hark back to an age where we relied on individual star players for success like we did in the 90s. But as shown by the decline of Pakistan, Sri Lanka and West Indies, this kind of success is unsustainable.

What will make a REAL difference is not new captains of the Titanic but doing the very unsexy things that are necessary to improve our domestic infrastructure. Start with the basics:

- Standardise the Dukes ball for Test and 4 day cricket, and the Kookaburra for one day cricket. Train the groundstaff properly and produce a variety of pitches across the country so our cricketers can develop different skillsets. Suspend grounds from staging cricket if the pitches are inadequate.

Then building on that:

- Set up an NCA style academy in every province.

- Launch a national coaching programme where we train coaches like we train players. No FC team should be coached by anyone failing to obtain the necessary qualifications - being an ex-player doesn't entitle you to a coaching gig.

- Initiate a Cricketing Scholarship programme by working with IK Govt. Ensure that kids can pursue their education as well as their cricketing ambitions.

- Launch a national tournament featuring 16 of the top schools. Attach at least one top Pakistani coach and any overseas coach willing to travel to Pakistan to each team. THIS is when the fundamentals of cricket are learned - not at age 30 after seven years in the Pakistan team.

- Introduce a sports psychologist for every FC team and a specialist fitness coach. DROP any player who fails basic fitness standards WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

- No FC team should be captained by anyone over the age of 30. Develop a Leadership Programme at NCA to ensure we have the next generation of captains coming through.

- Full implementation of Wasim Khan's proposed domestic structure.
 
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We as a nation are mediocre in handling politics sports health care infrastructure law and order so why do people like Imran Khan think that bringing the Sheffield shield structure will improve the cricket in Pakistan it won’t we have no talent and no mental strength our players literally play for Pakistan to make a good living in the domestic u can barely make enough for bread so I don’t wanna go on and on it is what it is

It’s clear that present system has failed so why not give chance to a more competitive system like Sheffield

Talent still isn’t Pakistan’s major issue it’s the lack of structure to nurture the talent which is lacking
 
Deal with the root cause. Covering big cracks with wallpaper is not gonna do us any good.
 
first time pak have lost a world cup game and it didnt really hurt, was totally ready for this.

i agree with op, this will take 3 or 4 years of professionalism to set on the right path, barring one or two random selections these are the best guys in pakistan.

fortunately cricket is the only sport left in pakistan, so i dont think itll die like hockey and squash, and psl shows money is still there.

get rid of the oldies, stick with the youngers, and replace them as and when better youngsters show up. extend domestic season to 4 or 5 months, so all youngsters play first class cricket.
 
After the loss today to arch-rivals, and not to forget the maulling by the West Indies in the first match and loss to Australia, I think it is safe to say our tournament is over. But what we need to focus on is what we will do afterwards. I do sense that change is coming, and it always does when we get humiliated in this form and fashion in an ICC event especially to India. It's a good thing because now we have time to rehaul our team with new players and test them out before the next ICC event. Malik, Sarfraz, Imam, Hasan Ali, Hafeez, Asif, Inzamam, Azhar Mahmood and Mickey will hopefully be shown the door and never be brought back. I personally think Misbah or Rameez should be named chief selector and chairman, pick one of the two for either. We need a Pakistani coach due to language barriers in my opinion, but Wasim Akram should be our bowling coach, and I don't know who should be our batting coach, and general overall coach, perhaps you guys have a better idea. Also, we need to invest in our domestic structure, we need to pick players based off of their numbers there instead of PSL, or use a two step process, if the players is good in domestics and first class, and then does good in PSL, only THEN select them. Finally, as far as team changes come, we should go with this for the time being. Amir should be captain, because I think he is a big match player and can handle pressure situations. I put question marks on positions I myself am unsure of, but perhaps you guys would have a better idea, or a different one altogether, feel free to share.

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Babar Azam
3. Haris Sohail
4. ???
5. ???
6. Imad Wasim
7. Mohammad Rizwan
8. Shadab Khan
9. Mohammad Amir (c)
10. ???
11. ???
 
Start with the basics:

- Standardise the Dukes ball for Test and 4 day cricket, and the Kookaburra for one day cricket. Train the groundstaff properly and produce a variety of pitches across the country so our cricketers can develop different skillsets. Suspend grounds from staging cricket if the pitches are inadequate.

Then building on that:

- Set up an NCA style academy in every province.

- Launch a national coaching programme where we train coaches like we train players. No FC team should be coached by anyone failing to obtain the necessary qualifications - being an ex-player doesn't entitle you to a coaching gig.

- Initiate a Cricketing Scholarship programme by working with IK Govt. Ensure that kids can pursue their education as well as their cricketing ambitions.

- Launch a national tournament featuring 16 of the top schools. Attach at least one top Pakistani coach and any overseas coach willing to travel to Pakistan to each team. THIS is when the fundamentals of cricket are learned - not at age 30 after seven years in the Pakistan team.

- Introduce a sports psychologist for every FC team and a specialist fitness coach. DROP any player who fails basic fitness standards WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

- No FC team should be captained by anyone over the age of 30. Develop a Leadership Programme at NCA to ensure we have the next generation of captains coming through.

- Full implementation of Wasim Khan's proposed domestic structure.
 
imam and shaheen are not that bad i think, they have performed well against top quality oppositions.

1. fakhar
2. imam
3.babar
4. haris
5. rizwan
6. kushdil shah(power hitter with good average)
7. imad
8. shadab(or mohammad asghar, an untested young spinner with a good record)
9. amir
10. usma shinwari( best bowler before wc)
11. shaheen(or husnain)
 
Take out Harris from the list, he could have been our main batsman in the past but lost the time due to recurrent injuries. He is now a useless, unfit, injury prone batsman, we need to move on. His fielding is worst than Asif's .
 
Many Pakistanis haven't realised that the most successful nations are built on strong institutions and systems. That goes for sport too. We cry out for messiahs and hark back to an age where we relied on individual star players for success like we did in the 90s. But as shown by the decline of Pakistan, Sri Lanka and West Indies, this kind of success is unsustainable.

What will make a REAL difference is not new captains of the Titanic but doing the very unsexy things that are necessary to improve our domestic infrastructure. Start with the basics:

- Standardise the Dukes ball for Test and 4 day cricket, and the Kookaburra for one day cricket. Train the groundstaff properly and produce a variety of pitches across the country so our cricketers can develop different skillsets. Suspend grounds from staging cricket if the pitches are inadequate.

Then building on that:

- Set up an NCA style academy in every province.

- Launch a national coaching programme where we train coaches like we train players. No FC team should be coached by anyone failing to obtain the necessary qualifications - being an ex-player doesn't entitle you to a coaching gig.

- Initiate a Cricketing Scholarship programme by working with IK Govt. Ensure that kids can pursue their education as well as their cricketing ambitions.

- Launch a national tournament featuring 16 of the top schools. Attach at least one top Pakistani coach and any overseas coach willing to travel to Pakistan to each team. THIS is when the fundamentals of cricket are learned - not at age 30 after seven years in the Pakistan team.

- Introduce a sports psychologist for every FC team and a specialist fitness coach. DROP any player who fails basic fitness standards WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

- No FC team should be captained by anyone over the age of 30. Develop a Leadership Programme at NCA to ensure we have the next generation of captains coming through.

- Full implementation of Wasim Khan's proposed domestic structure.

This is what we need and what the fans who know the cricket systems all around the world have been asking for! Sad part is no one in Pakistan sees that far or the big picture, everyone is aiming for short term gains. Fans need to take interest in grassroot level cricket aswell and there should be more accountability at the lower system. Quite frankly the top 50 Pakistani cricketers are probably the worst top 50 in terms of athletic ability if you compare them to the top 6-7 cricketing nations. This is where the problem lies!!! You can keep swapping faces every year, every month but it still won't solve anything because the actual problem is we have a directionless cricketing system!
 
Pakistan management need to enforce curfews and have knowledge passed onto Pakistan players about diet & fitness.

They have been seen in last few days at Lona's, archies and sheesha joints eating burgers , pizzas , chips , milk shakes etc and smoking cigarettes and sheesha is embarrassing they lack basic knowledge about diet and fitness.

I have pics , in case the mods delete this message me I'm happy to send pics (inbox me your number) and will also send them to social media sites so they are exposed for their unprofessional behaviour.
 
Start with the basics:

- Standardise the Dukes ball for Test and 4 day cricket, and the Kookaburra for one day cricket. Train the groundstaff properly and produce a variety of pitches across the country so our cricketers can develop different skillsets. Suspend grounds from staging cricket if the pitches are inadequate.

Then building on that:

- Set up an NCA style academy in every province.

- Launch a national coaching programme where we train coaches like we train players. No FC team should be coached by anyone failing to obtain the necessary qualifications - being an ex-player doesn't entitle you to a coaching gig.

- Initiate a Cricketing Scholarship programme by working with IK Govt. Ensure that kids can pursue their education as well as their cricketing ambitions.

- Launch a national tournament featuring 16 of the top schools. Attach at least one top Pakistani coach and any overseas coach willing to travel to Pakistan to each team. THIS is when the fundamentals of cricket are learned - not at age 30 after seven years in the Pakistan team.

- Introduce a sports psychologist for every FC team and a specialist fitness coach. DROP any player who fails basic fitness standards WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

- No FC team should be captained by anyone over the age of 30. Develop a Leadership Programme at NCA to ensure we have the next generation of captains coming through.

- Full implementation of Wasim Khan's proposed domestic structure.

Can’t do better than this.

The most realistic one if changes are made...
 
no idea, but more interested in threads on how do we get our WC campaign back on track.
 
You actually want to make a fixer our captain. Lol.
Make babar the captain, I know he's timid but he's the only person in the team who will definitely be there in the 2023 WC if he doesn't get injured
 
Start with the basics:

- Standardise the Dukes ball for Test and 4 day cricket, and the Kookaburra for one day cricket. Train the groundstaff properly and produce a variety of pitches across the country so our cricketers can develop different skillsets. Suspend grounds from staging cricket if the pitches are inadequate.

Then building on that:

- Set up an NCA style academy in every province.

- Launch a national coaching programme where we train coaches like we train players. No FC team should be coached by anyone failing to obtain the necessary qualifications - being an ex-player doesn't entitle you to a coaching gig.

- Initiate a Cricketing Scholarship programme by working with IK Govt. Ensure that kids can pursue their education as well as their cricketing ambitions.

- Launch a national tournament featuring 16 of the top schools. Attach at least one top Pakistani coach and any overseas coach willing to travel to Pakistan to each team. THIS is when the fundamentals of cricket are learned - not at age 30 after seven years in the Pakistan team.

- Introduce a sports psychologist for every FC team and a specialist fitness coach. DROP any player who fails basic fitness standards WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

- No FC team should be captained by anyone over the age of 30. Develop a Leadership Programme at NCA to ensure we have the next generation of captains coming through.

- Full implementation of Wasim Khan's proposed domestic structure.

this is far too sensible to ever be put into practise.

would jst like to add that there shouldnt be any wholesale changes to the team, pak did it in 03 and set up the team for decades of odi mediocrity. get rid of malik, hafeez, sarf, the rest can stick it out until there are better domestic players to take their place.
 
Mohammad Amir, can't be kaptaan
Haris Sohail. Please no more unfit belly poppin. No compromise on discipline and fitness

Invest in 25 players for 2 years. Organize more A-tours. Educate them, groom them. I snese many of the young players are not as brain dead as previous generation.

Some in the 25 then should be given more time
Hussain Talat
Saud Shakeel
Saad Ali
Khushdil Shah
Amaad Butt


Shaheen Shah
Musa Khan
Usman Khan
Mohammad Nawaz
Zafar Goher
Husnain
Rauf guy
 
Excellent Markhor.

NZ is a country 1/50th the size of Pakistan. Yet they have a structure, a well oiled system.
Systems churn out players otherwise you rely purely on luck.
 
Many Pakistanis haven't realised that the most successful nations are built on strong institutions and systems. That goes for sport too. We cry out for messiahs and hark back to an age where we relied on individual star players for success like we did in the 90s. But as shown by the decline of Pakistan, Sri Lanka and West Indies, this kind of success is unsustainable.

What will make a REAL difference is not new captains of the Titanic but doing the very unsexy things that are necessary to improve our domestic infrastructure. Start with the basics:

- Standardise the Dukes ball for Test and 4 day cricket, and the Kookaburra for one day cricket. Train the groundstaff properly and produce a variety of pitches across the country so our cricketers can develop different skillsets. Suspend grounds from staging cricket if the pitches are inadequate.

Then building on that:

- Set up an NCA style academy in every province.

- Launch a national coaching programme where we train coaches like we train players. No FC team should be coached by anyone failing to obtain the necessary qualifications - being an ex-player doesn't entitle you to a coaching gig.

- Initiate a Cricketing Scholarship programme by working with IK Govt. Ensure that kids can pursue their education as well as their cricketing ambitions.

- Launch a national tournament featuring 16 of the top schools. Attach at least one top Pakistani coach and any overseas coach willing to travel to Pakistan to each team. THIS is when the fundamentals of cricket are learned - not at age 30 after seven years in the Pakistan team.

- Introduce a sports psychologist for every FC team and a specialist fitness coach. DROP any player who fails basic fitness standards WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

- No FC team should be captained by anyone over the age of 30. Develop a Leadership Programme at NCA to ensure we have the next generation of captains coming through.

- Full implementation of Wasim Khan's proposed domestic structure.

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YOu can plan as much as you want but it requires money to execute and the results won;t be apparent immediately. That means a lot of investment and nothingto show for, at-least for a couple of years except patience.
The Pakistan board neither has the resources or the right folks to build and execute. Imran Khan as one of the Pakistan greats would probably be the right person to put a strategy in place and also mobilize resources from corporate sponsorships or whatever else needs to done. Being close to cricket for a better part of his life, you hope and pray that he notices the decline in Pakistan's cricket and intervenes otherwise its a downward spiral.
 
Please just follow Wasim Khan's ideas and in 4-5 years you will be there.

Till we do not produce world class cricketers we will never ever be close to India. We need players who are already used to this pressure and have played seasons at the toughest level.
 
YOu can plan as much as you want but it requires money to execute and the results won;t be apparent immediately. That means a lot of investment and nothingto show for, at-least for a couple of years except patience.
The Pakistan board neither has the resources or the right folks to build and execute. Imran Khan as one of the Pakistan greats would probably be the right person to put a strategy in place and also mobilize resources from corporate sponsorships or whatever else needs to done. Being close to cricket for a better part of his life, you hope and pray that he notices the decline in Pakistan's cricket and intervenes otherwise its a downward spiral.

Imran Khan got Wasim Khan in through Ehsan Mani. It's IK's ideology with a bit of finetuning.

The only issue being IF IK's government falls so will Wasim Khan as people in the board are already after his salary and interference in their jobs (holidays).
 
I felt so disappointed and ashamed after India's performance in Rio Olympics that I shot a mail to PMO outlining my strategy of winning golds. I think it has merit to be applied in general to any sport.

Subject: Regarding the dismal performance in Olympics


Respected PM,


I think that we need to approach Olympics as a war and prepare our athletes as soldiers. All this talk of lack of talent or lack of infrastructure is an excuse. To compete and excel at a particular level, one has to train at minimum at that level or at a higher level. As simple as that. So, the question is: are our sports-warriors training at the level demanded by Olympics? The answer is 'no'. They may be training their skills to match the Olympic level, but their physical, mental and psychological make-ups are definitely no match to the make-ups of the elite sports machines. We crumble under pressure, we feel overwhelmed, we feel intimidated, we feel inferior, and so on.



Now let me tell you how the military deals with this problem. The fundamental focus of a military training is not on teaching weapons, but on breaking down a personality and remolding it into an elite fighting machine. Once the physical, mental and psychological barriers of a candidate are broken, they can be stretched to any desired level, they become elastic. This is the hardest and the most rewarding phase of the training. Many candidates break down in the process. But the ones who make it through are transformed into elite weapons. You can deploy them in any situation, naked and without guns, and they'll still do what is required of them. They have learnt to exploit any situation to their advantage. They wont cry and they wont whine.



Once a soldier is transformed into an elite killing machine, now all they need to do is to practice various scenarios in a simulated terrain that matches the battlefield. The focus of this phase is to master a skill. Because the operating level of a solider is now elevated, the amount of effort and discipline required in this phase won't seem Herculean. An elite candidate can train at these levels relatively easily.



Rather than taking the old and tired approach of first learning a skill and then gradually pushing it to a higher level, the approach should be to first remold the physio-psychological make-up of a candidate to an elite make-up and then simply throwing thousand of hours of elite-level training. The first approach takes time, and because we don't have a sporting culture like cricket where candidates learn to compete from their childhood, so by the time an athlete reaches an elite level of performance, he/she is past their biological prime. The second approach is how the military does it - pick them at 16-18, then few years of make-up change, and then 3 years of elite practice and we'll have our sports-warriors ready to bring golds by 21-23 yrs of age. And we'll have at least 2-3 Olympics to reap dividends.



So, how do we go about this change? I think that we can setup a specialized military branch whose job is to prepare our sports-warriors. The reasons - a) military has the know-how and the facilities required for such training - especially the remolding part. b) military can easily recruit candidates – all we need to do is to benchmark the physical make-up of an elite Olympian in different sports and select candidates fitting the make-up. c) most of our athletes are from an underprivileged background and their biggest need is security. By recruiting them as soldiers and carving out a specialized path for them to a glorious career based on their sports excellence, we can secure their future as well as motivate generation after generation from similar background to sustain our Olympic system - this way we can institutionalize our gold medals like China does.



Respected sir, I've spent an entire night thinking and composing my arguments and I sincerely believe that my suggestion has merit. It shames me to see that a billion of us can't win even a single gold in Olympics. It's due time that we start winning some and it's not really that hard if you ask me, only we need to set our sight firm and establish a system that is self-sustainable.
 
Our team isn't that bad on a man to man basis. Most of them should stick around.

The lack of results is squarely on the shoulders of Sarfaraz, Mickey, Azhar and Grant.

They've all got to go.
 
Corruption, nepotism, lack of funds, political interference are issues that plague Pakistan cricket. These are long term fixes that wont go away overnight.

However, one simple thing that can change things around within 2 - 3 years is fix the pitches, outfields, and use good quality balls in domestic cricket.

Enough of these pitches where trundlers get 5 wicket hauls for fun, batsmen get no time to build innings, and where spinners are becoming redundant.

2 - 3 seasons of good pitches and we should start to see players that have potential to work on.

Then try these players out in PSL and lobby to get the best ones some county contracts to develop them further.
 
We need to start with our rotten mentality, because it has set the tone for our mediocrity. How do we fix our mentality? For starters, the following 8 statements should be completely banned from Pakistan cricket at all levels - players, ex-players, commentators, analysts, fans etc. no one should ever say these words ever again.

Pakistan is unpredictable”

“Pakistan is mercurial”

“Pakistan is a cornered tiger”

“Pakistan is dangerous once they gain momentum”

“You can never write Pakistan off”

“You never know which Pakistan will turn up”

“One minute down, next minute up”

“Watching Pakistan cricket is a roller-coaster ride”
 
We need to start with our rotten mentality, because it has set the tone for our mediocrity. How do we fix our mentality? For starters, the following 8 statements should be completely banned from Pakistan cricket at all levels - players, ex-players, commentators, analysts, fans etc. no one should ever say these words ever again.

Pakistan is unpredictable”

“Pakistan is mercurial”

“Pakistan is a cornered tiger”

“Pakistan is dangerous once they gain momentum”

“You can never write Pakistan off”

“You never know which Pakistan will turn up”

“One minute down, next minute up”

“Watching Pakistan cricket is a roller-coaster ride”

You’re right.

It’s also a matter of perspective, we see it as unpredictability instead of inconsistency.

Calling it unpredictability gives an impression that Pakistan is a dark horse that can be deadly on it’s day. This is viewed as a positive sign despite our winless streak and mediocre performances.

Calling it inconsistency gives an impression that the team lacks skills and discipline and is therefore are losing games.
 
You’re right.

It’s also a matter of perspective, we see it as unpredictability instead of inconsistency.

Calling it unpredictability gives an impression that Pakistan is a dark horse that can be deadly on it’s day. This is viewed as a positive sign despite our winless streak and mediocre performances.

Calling it inconsistency gives an impression that the team lacks skills and discipline and is therefore are losing games.

The 1992 World Cup damaged the mentality of Pakistan cricket in the long run. It made us believe in miracles and saviors, and it set the tone for all the cliches that have been used to describe Pakistan cricket in the last two decades. Since 1992, we have attempted to replicate the madness.

I wish we had won the 1987 World Cup instead. We were one of the heavy favorites and played good, consistent cricket but unfortunately stumbled in the semifinal.

Had we won in 1987, we may not have relished tags like unpredictable, cornered tigers etc., that have severely impacted the psyche of Pakistani players and fans.
 
I agree with most of your suggestions, these are all long term plans and will surely bear the fruits. Champions Trophy victory had disillusioned, and a lot of defects of cricket structure and system got hidden with that victory. So we wasted 2 years.
 
A very intelligent post! keep it up! I traveled with PAk team in the 1987 campaign. The preparation, talent and confidence was of the highest level. Except for Imran Khan who was overconfident!
 
Imran Khan got Wasim Khan in through Ehsan Mani. It's IK's ideology with a bit of finetuning.

The only issue being IF IK's government falls so will Wasim Khan as people in the board are already after his salary and interference in their jobs (holidays).

Bookmarked.
If this forum is atound, will revisit this thread before the next world cup.
 
The PCB can draw inspiration from what the BCCI have done. The difference was clear to be seen in the game.

The BCCI setup seems to be excellent. Their grassroots coaching seems to be good. All players seem to eventually be channeled through some good professional coaches/academy and end up at the U19 level under Mr. Rahul Dravid.

Now what better person to learn the game of cricket than Dravid. An excellent stop for any cricketer before stepping on to the big stage. And it shows.

The PCB need a similar setup.
 
The PCB can draw inspiration from what the BCCI have done. The difference was clear to be seen in the game.

The BCCI setup seems to be excellent. Their grassroots coaching seems to be good. All players seem to eventually be channeled through some good professional coaches/academy and end up at the U19 level under Mr. Rahul Dravid.

Now what better person to learn the game of cricket than Dravid. An excellent stop for any cricketer before stepping on to the big stage. And it shows.

The PCB need a similar setup.

Lol the PCB refused to bring Younis Khan on board and refused to pay him Rs 1.5 million a month and some powers he was demanding for the U-19, A teams.
 
PCB also needs to work out why our international cricketers regress at such an alarming rate. I opened a thread on this before, but people rubbished this aspect saying that these players get worked out and are garbage to begin with. However, we have seen time and again that some of our players create tremendous impact on their debuts, only to DEGRADE a couple of years down the line. Fair enough, teams work you out. But how on earth do you end up doing the basics wrong? How can Shaheen Afridi go from bowling a fuller length in the UAE eight months back, to bowling short and wide on a seaming track? This is a very small example. I can name a lot of players who have decelerated at an alarming rate.

It's not about the coaches at international level. There's something wrong with how a player is integrated into our international cricket, where-in he loses all motivation to improve further.
 
Lol the PCB refused to bring Younis Khan on board and refused to pay him Rs 1.5 million a month and some powers he was demanding for the U-19, A teams.

Rs 1.5 million a month???? Do you really think PCB has that amount of money to waste. PCB still in Pakistan not in IND, ENG or AUS. Younis Khan is just greedy.
 
The 1992 World Cup damaged the mentality of Pakistan cricket in the long run. It made us believe in miracles and saviors, and it set the tone for all the cliches that have been used to describe Pakistan cricket in the last two decades. Since 1992, we have attempted to replicate the madness.

I wish we had won the 1987 World Cup instead. We were one of the heavy favorites and played good, consistent cricket but unfortunately stumbled in the semifinal.

Had we won in 1987, we may not have relished tags like unpredictable, cornered tigers etc., that have severely impacted the psyche of Pakistani players and fans.

Pakistan team was never consistent to win 7-10 matches in a row like old WI, Australia, current India. We always was a good team by without any luck we can never win World Cup.
 
Rs 1.5 million a month???? Do you really think PCB has that amount of money to waste. PCB still in Pakistan not in IND, ENG or AUS. Younis Khan is just greedy.

Depends on priorities. PCB can afford to pay that amount, it is already overpaying a lot of other people in the board. You are not going to attract quality if you pay below market wages
 
reduce the no. of teams competing , form a pool of 60 players and only select from that 60 ...

40 of them should be in their age 18-28...and 15 of them can be from 28 - 34 yrs age and only 5 of them in 34 -40 years of age and they should be consistently performing with fitness and reflexes equal to that of youngsters comparatively...

Pack all those players who has a belly to go and fix their belly first and then return to play cricket or let them rotten themselves in gully mohalla...

fitness standard should be set high, how big a player you are even the captain fails fitness at the first round should be discarded , not selected... stay fit to be selected no second chance to those who fail fitness tests before a tour, just like they did for Imad and Yasir.


Skill levels should be constantly increased at NCA....
 
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