"I cannot work with this board setup freely and productively" : Saqlain Mushtaq

[#GreenRoars]

LAHORE:

Pakistan’s legendary off-spinner Saqlain Mushtaq has no plans to work with current Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) set up in coaching capacity.

“After working with Saeed Ajmal for three months, I had realised that I cannot work with this board setup freely and productively, so, I don’t think I will accept or even consider any offer,”

said Saqlain. He went on to say that for the betterment of Pakistan cricket, it is need of hour to give responsibilities to those who know cricket

http://nation.com.pk/sports/07-Apr-2016/don-t-want-to-work-with-current-pcb-set-up-saqlain

 

[carrom_ball]

3...2....1

Waiting for Mamoon and co to come and bite off Saqi's head for ripping PCB off during the Ajmal saga.

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To be fair, he is right.

PCB takes unprofessionalism to a whole new level.

Have you heard saqlain's analysis on ptv sports? He doesn't come across as the brightest fellow, PCB will do better by staying away from saqi

 

[Slog]

if im not wrong he has worked with WI, Ban and NZ team so I am guessing he must be up to sth positive to be employed by these countires

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Have you heard saqlain's analysis on ptv sports? He doesn't come across as the brightest fellow, PCB will do better by staying away from saqi

No haven't watched it.

 

[Greenstorm]

Have you heard saqlain's analysis on ptv sports? He doesn't come across as the brightest fellow, PCB will do better by staying away from saqi

His overall analysis of the game and strategy making isn't good but his analysis on spin bowling which involves how to grip, how to ball on different pitches, how to ball in different situations against different batsmens and how to set up a batsman is the best I have heard after Shane Warne.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

It's not rocket science to impart knowledge on how to grip the ball.

Where did pcb impede his work when they employed him? Seems to me he was just an awful consultant.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

he may well be a good spin bowling coach but he was stupid by saying he could make Ajmal lethal again, nobody could have.

You could say the PCB were also stupid in believing him and throwing money at him.

Faults on both sides

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Saqi can you please return us the money that you owe our cricket board

 

[Pete Rose]

No one's asking you

 

[AlphaFighter]

People would rather accept the likes of haroon rashid, intikhab alam, wasim bari, iqbal qasim, sallahudin sallu over saqi which sums up Pakistan Cricket followers really.

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[COMEBACKID]

I think he brings positive energy in to the spin department that's what we need he is a great spin bowler and coach as evident in his stints as coach when he was working with West Indies and New Zealand and if I'm not wrong they have some pretty good spin bowlers not saying that that's due to him entirely but he is a good spin coach and he has shown willingness to work with Pakistan's spinners now its on us to harness such opportunities if we wont take spin advice form our own great spinners what are we going to listen to anyone else.

 

[naddy]

This is my first post on pakpassion been following this forum for many years. About Saqlain Mustaq my son was under his coaching at Leicester, sorry to say very poor coach

 

[naddy]

Did not learn anything while being charged loads of money I would recommend u keep away

 

[COMEBACKID]

This is my first post on pakpassion been following this forum for many years. About Saqlain Mustaq my son was under his coaching at Leicester, sorry to say very poor coach

Really? Why what happened?

 

[naddy]

My son plays under 15 Northamptonshire county he's on the epp program, I've had endless problems which Saqlain created while coaching him

 

[naddy]

My son is an off spinner and a middle order batsman was voted best bowler last year no thanks to Saqlain my sons action broke down 5-6 times because of his coaching methods and unprofessional approach

 

[naddy]

its a very long story but I'm not the only one who's son wasted valuable coaching time at a cost of £100 per hour

 

[naddy]

Its been 5 months since I've changed coaches and no breakdown alhamdulila ( new coach is not a spin specialist but seams to apply a lot of common sense to his coaching methods which is missing from our Pak legends

 

[naddy]

I had the chance to meet ajmal while he was remodelling at Leicester have to say Saqlain is not qualified in bio mechanics

 

[Mamoon]

Yes Sir how can you. You have already robbed the PCB of millions and I am sure that they are least interested in working with you.

He must be held accountable for it. PCB should take this opportunistic leech to court and attempt to recover at least 50% of what they paid him.

 

[naddy]

Mammon always read your posts with interest you have an interesting opinion which I mostly agree with Saqlain needs to be held accountable

 

[CricSick]

People suck up to me? Lol, you are new here.

I am criticized here on daily basis because I think independently.

All you do is moan, whine and go against popular views 9 times out of 10 irrespective of whether it's objective or not and you call that independent? I think you're insane but I don't blame you, if Pakistan didn't play like minnows your mind would be a lot more healthy and the quality of your posts would be better.

 

[Syed1]

Yes Sir how can you. You have already robbed the PCB of millions and I am sure that they are least interested in working with you.

He must be held accountable for it. PCB should take this opportunistic leech to court and attempt to recover at least 50% of what they paid him.

Yes, they should hire you for your services to Pakistan cricket.

Who can forget your hattrick at The Oval.

 

[Saj]

I guess the PCB is ok to work with when they are paying for a former player's and his families stay in Pakistan in a 5 star hotel.

 

[Mamoon]

Yes, they should hire you for your services to Pakistan cricket.

Who can forget your hattrick at The Oval.

Not a bad idea, at least I won't take millions for something I cannot do.

 

[naddy]

Saj Bhai very disappointed because my 2 sons don't watch Pak cricket anymore both are at Northampton county, usually they laugh when Pakistan are playing it's like a comedy show

 

[Mamoon]

Mammon always read your posts with interest you have an interesting opinion which I mostly agree with Saqlain needs to be held accountable

Thank you.

Saqlain's job wasn't just to make sure that Ajmal rolls his arm legally.

Ajmal proved to be a liar because he said that he has flex in his elbow because of a childhood accident, so what happened now? Did Saqlain magically fix him? No, this is not Harry Potter - he did not cast any spell to fix his elbow and didn't perform any surgical operation either.

The challenge for Saqlain was to make Ajmal a competent bowler with his new action, but he is a part-timer now.

He knew that a 38 year old Ajmal was a lost cause, but used this opportunity to leech PCB, who pushed the panic button and failed to think clearly because they were desperate to make Ajmal play the World Cup.

The lack accountability has been shocking and no one has bothered to ask him about Ajmal's progress. It has been more than a year now and he doesn't even talk about him now.

 

[CricSick]

Yes, they should hire you for your services to Pakistan cricket.

Who can forget your hattrick at The Oval.

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Only an insane person would expect a coach to turn a veteran in the twilight of his career who was bowling beyond 15 degrees into a world beater that too in a few months, it was a big deal in itself that ajmal managed to clear the test in the first place. He got better the more he bowled but blaming a coach for not being able to get ajmal back to his best is stupid. Saqi did what he was hired to do.

 

[naddy]

Mamoon Saqlain is not qualified in bio mechanics that's enough of a reason to ask for money back

 

[badsha001]

Last time i checked pakistan team doesn't have any off spin bowler, why do we need Saqlain mushtaq anyways?

Malik is neither a proper bowler or batsman.

Mamoon is right, PCB must recover their fees which they paid to Saqlain for ajmal's action remodeling...

 

[naddy]

I watched ajmals remodelling it's difficult to change after so many years of chucking but Saqlain was aware of these issues before he banked his paycheck

 

[Mamoon]

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Guy is insane, ignore his posts. Only an insane person would expect a coach to turn a veteran in the twilight of his career who was bowling beyond 15 degrees into a world beater that too in a few months, it was a big deal in itself that ajmal managed to clear the test in the first place. He got better the more he bowled but blaming a coach for not being able to get ajmal back to his best is stupid. Saqi did what he was hired to do.

Like I said, you are new here.

When PCB decided to offer Saqlain the job in 2014, I was vocal about the fact that it is going to be a total waste of money because given Ajmal's age, there is absolutely no chance of him becoming a quality bowler with a remodeled action.

I am speaking from Saqlain's perspective, because he was opportunistic about it and knew that nothing is going to come out of this except for his pockets getting filled.

 

[naddy]

saqlains coaching methods are so wrong I know few other kids who went in with a straight arm and finished with a kink

 

[Mamoon]

Mamoon Saqlain is not qualified in bio mechanics that's enough of a reason to ask for money back

PCB at that time couldn't think these things through. They were desperate and had no time.

Saqlain, ex off-spinner and inventor of the doosra. Enough reason for the lack of visionaries in PCB to give him millions.

As you said, Saqlain was well aware of the fact that nothing is going to come out of this except him adding zeroes to his bank account.

 

[Mamoon]

Last time i checked pakistan team doesn't have any off spin bowler, why do we need Saqlain mushtaq anyways?

Malik is neither a proper bowler or batsman.

Mamoon is right, PCB must recover their fees which they paid to Saqlain for ajmal's action remodeling...

Recovering fees will be very difficult, but at least there should be some accountability.

Is Saqlain monitoring Ajmal's progress?

How long does he think it will take for him to go back to his old level, if ever?

What does he think is the reason behind the fact that his bowling very mediocre now?

Is he personally in touch with Ajmal now?

All of these question are unanswered, and Saqlain is liable to comment on it.

Unfortunately, no one in the PCB cares enough to ask Saqlain these valid questions, who has gone totally quiet on Ajmal as soon as the PCB Finance Department wired money into his bank account.

 

[naddy]

My boy had a clean action once Saqlain finished with him he was bending his elbow, which Saqlain said don't worry he's growing and getting stronger it's normal ( alhamdulila he's gone back to his old action now and is being coached directly from Northamptonshire county,

saqlain charges £100 per hour under ecb guidelines u can only charge £50 per hour ajmal pcb are not the only people who have been robbed and effected

 

[Mamoon]

My boy had a clean action once Saqlain finished with him he was bending his elbow, which Saqlain said don't worry he's growing and getting stronger it's normal ( alhamdulila he's gone back to his old action now and is being coached directly from Northamptonshire county,

saqlain charges £100 per hour under ecb guidelines u can only charge £50 per hour ajmal pcb are not the only people who have been robbed and effected

Good luck to your son, the best thing that you have done is to get him out of the Saqlain's claws. Looks like he was prepared to leech you as well and also ruin's your son's development as a spinner.

 

[naddy]

Mamoon thank you for your kind words

 

[CricSick]

Like I said, you are new here.

When PCB decided to offer Saqlain the job in 2014, I was vocal about the fact that it is going to be a total waste of money because given Ajmal's age, there is absolutely no chance of him becoming a quality bowler with a remodeled action.

I am speaking from Saqlain's perspective, because he was opportunistic about it and knew that nothing is going to come out of this except for his pockets getting filled.

You are barking up the wrong tree, but you are not the only new poster who has come all guns blazing against me, looking to settle old scores because you probably have been banned 2-3 times already.

Oh and the 'I used to lurk before I signed up' excuse is staler than a bag of crips kept in open air for 2 months.

Are the PCB that thick that they wouldn't know it would be a total waste of money in expecting Ajmal to be back at his best? even you figured that out. Saqi helped him pass the test and that's the least they'd expect unless you were expecting Saqi to bowl for Ajmal to? And it might be hard to understand this, but do you know that the PCB hired Saqi?

 

[Usman Chadda]

My boy had a clean action once Saqlain finished with him he was bending his elbow, which Saqlain said don't worry he's growing and getting stronger it's normal ( alhamdulila he's gone back to his old action now and is being coached directly from Northamptonshire county,

saqlain charges £100 per hour under ecb guidelines u can only charge £50 per hour ajmal pcb are not the only people who have been robbed and effected

You should be talking to the authorities in charge rather than venting it all out on a forum.

Saqlain doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the box. His 'analysis' is quite cringeworthy. Not good enough to be a coach.

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[naddy]

Lol cash in hand no paper trail, partly agree should have reported him but u live and u learn.

 

[Mamoon]

Looks like I hurt you right in the touchie, what's this crap about lurk, banned blah blah lmao you can't digest the fact that you're full of bs and I merely pointed out the ignorance of your ways, why the hell would I want to settle scores; am not into your weird fetish on online forums I'll leave that to small minded people like yourself.

Are the PCB that thick that they wouldn't know it would be a total waste of money in expecting Ajmal to be back at his best? even you figured that out. Saqi helped him pass the test and that's the least they'd expect unless you were expecting Saqi to bowl for Ajmal to? And it might be hard to understand this, but do you know that the PCB hired Saqi?

Don't flatter yourself. I couldn't worry less about a poster with 200 posts and a WWE Superstar avatar. Your level of intellect is clear to me already.

Believe it or not, yes, PCB indeed are that thick. Like I said, they were in panic mode at that time and failed to think clearly.

Not only them, but PPers at that time were panicking as well, and failed to realize that Ajmal cannot become a competent bowler at the age of 38 with a remodeled action. It was too late.

Saqlain knew what he was doing and he was clearly opportunistic about it. PCB not only erred in giving him millions for nothing, they also erred in not practicing any accountability.

The questions that I posed in #38 are all valid and Saqlain should be asked publicly.

 

[naddy]

everyone is to blame but it was an impossible job for Saqlain why take it if your not qualified or don't even have the equipment to run bio mechanics.

Clearly remember ajmal fullifilling plenty of media and sponsorship work while remodelling u need to be fully focused

 

[blackwidow]

This is my first post on pakpassion been following this forum for many years. About Saqlain Mustaq my son was under his coaching at Leicester, sorry to say very poor coach

Sounds like you guys got robbed by him -

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

I agree with [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] on this. This was no less than a heist by Saqi; he should however be held accountable on the claims that he made prior to being hired by the PCB.

 

[naddy]

he needs to spend more time in the English county scene that would defiantly help improve as a coach rather then aiming at national coaching

 

[Firebat]

Saqlain Mushtaq applies for Pakistan's U-19 head coach job

Former Pakistan spinner Saqlain Mushtaq has thrown his hat into the ring for the position of Pakistan’s U-19 team head coach.

The 42-year-old Saqlain, who is currently working as the spin consultant with the England team for the Ashes, confirmed to Sportstar that he will appear for the interview in Karachi next Monday.

“I have applied for the coaching position and the Pakistan Cricket Board has asked me to appear for the interview next week. I have worked with some of the top international teams and I can definitely contribute to Pakistan cricket,” Saqlain said.

In his long and illustrious career, the spin legend scalped 496 wickets in 49 Tests and 169 ODIs. The 42-year-old applied for the position after the PCB put out an advertisement, seeking applications for the position of the head coach for the U-19 team ahead of next year’s World Cup.

The 42-year-old offie is an ECB Level-three coach and has already worked with the New Zealand, Australia, West Indies and Bangladesh national senior teams as spin consultant. He was also part of the England support staff when the team won the World Cup last month.

In an interview to this publication during the World Cup, Saqlain had indicated that he was keen on taking up coaching roles in Pakistan.

“I have played fair amount of international cricket and have a lot of experience of working with international teams. I am sure that will help me in working with the youngsters from Pakistan,” Saqlain said.

Last week, the PCB parted ways with its senior team head coach, Mickey Arthur. And the Board is set to invite applications for the senior team coaching roles after the Eid holidays.

Asked whether he was also considering involving with the senior team, Saqlain said: “As of now, I am thinking about the U-19 role. Let’s see what happens later. One can’t predict the future.”

In the past, there were reports that Misbah-ul Haq could be brought in as the U-19 coach, but finally, that did not work out.

Ever since Ehsan Mani took charge as the head of PCB, the board has made it a point that it wants a high-profile candidate to work with the junior team, on the lines of BCCI’s decision to appoint former captain Rahul Dravid as the coach of its national under-19 and A teams.

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...ltant-pcb-u-19-coach/article29092009.ece/amp/

 

[shah_1]

Great choice

Better option than YK because of experince

 

[Rellu_Katta]

a much more mature and calm individual. having worked with the likes of Eng and NZ, he knows a thing or 2 abt the new era of LOI cricket.. will be great to have him looking and working with some good spinners as well .... which is a draught in pak team

attach a good batting consultant with him and u-19 will b in good hands

 

[MenInG]

So Saqlain now happy with PCB to work for them - good on him!

 

[szundercover]

Saqlain mushtaq is an excellent candidate for the coaching role.He might even give Pakistan 3 to 4 international quality spinners ,which are quite rare in Pakistan at the moment.Hoping for the best!

 

[Major]

Yes Sir how can you. You have already robbed the PCB of millions and I am sure that they are least interested in working with you.

He must be held accountable for it. PCB should take this opportunistic leech to court and attempt to recover at least 50% of what they paid him.

Where i live is very near to Bahria Town Phase 8, and over the last 5-6 years Saqi has small apartment buildings by the name of Saqlain heights.


The guy must have earned alot of money through this

 

[Titan24]

To be honest Saqlain's coaching career isnt creating much impact at the moment.

- Was WI spin bowling coach and now they are left with almost no spinner in their international team

- Was coach for England and Moen Ali is facing almost worst slump in his form in years,

- Worked with PZ and Mohammad Asghar looked out of sorts

- Worked with Saeed Ajmal and was only able to create a fake copy of Saeed Ajmal out of it

I am not sure what big achievements Saqlain has a coach to manifest such an attitude. Was probably the greatest LOI spinner in my opinion to play the game but this attitude is not very impressive.

 

[Titan24]

Irrespective of the above points I mentioned, I still think he can be decent with the U19 kids.

 

[Savak]

Where i live is very near to Bahria Town Phase 8, and over the last 5-6 years Saqi has small apartment buildings by the name of Saqlain heights.


The guy must have earned alot of money through this

Players have to look after themselves and their families during their playing days and after their playing days as well. They are left to survive on their own with very little backers once the PCB loses all interest in them

By now all the 90's players must be very well set and comfortable outside cricket now and anything they wish to do in cricket is mostly motivated by giving back to the country

 

[Major]

Players have to look after themselves and their families during their playing days and after their playing days as well. They are left to survive on their own with very little backers once the PCB loses all interest in them

By now all the 90's players must be very well set and comfortable outside cricket now and anything they wish to do in cricket is mostly motivated by giving back to the country

bro, the problem is not that.

The problem is people like Saqlian leech of PCB, then critisize the same PCB if you read the OP.

and now look at him, after few years he wants anotehr job with PCB.

 

[Savak]

bro, the problem is not that.

The problem is people like Saqlian leech of PCB, then critisize the same PCB if you read the OP.

and now look at him, after few years he wants anotehr job with PCB.

So because you used to work for someone you can't critize them ever now? He must be the first Pakistani player or ex cricketer to do so

 

[Major]

So because you used to work for someone you can't critize them ever now? He must be the first Pakistani player or ex cricketer to do so

read what he has wrote. I cannot work with them etc etc.

As Mamoon has said in the past, the guy is a leech

 

[sweep_shot]

Very good from Saqlain.

Pakistani U-19 team can benefit a lot from a legend like Saqlain. He also has coaching experience which is another good thing.

 

[Savak]

read what he has wrote. I cannot work with them etc etc.

As Mamoon has said in the past, the guy is a leech

The PCB has Ehsan Mani and Wasim Khan now. He perhaps likes the new PCB leadership better and feels more comfortable contributing in the new environment

 

[aloo paratha]

read what he has wrote. I cannot work with them etc etc.

As Mamoon has said in the past, the guy is a leech

PCB of the past was very unprofessional. This is the new PCB under Wasim Khan.

 

[moghul]

Not impressed with Saqlain's CV as coach. Has experience only as spin bowling coach for England and WI and he left both team's spinners in worst shape than he took over.

Was a great offie, no doubt but not cut for coaching.

 

[sshakir411]

Don’t think Saqlain can be head coach yet but I’d be happy to be proven wrong. If we really want to have a strong local coach at the U19 level then why not Waqar? Waqar is best with raw talent...especially quick bowlers. Only issue is Waqar will be too expensive for the U19 team budget.

 

[mak36]

To be honest Saqlain's coaching career isnt creating much impact at the moment.

- Was WI spin bowling coach and now they are left with almost no spinner in their international team

- Was coach for England and Moen Ali is facing almost worst slump in his form in years,

- Worked with PZ and Mohammad Asghar looked out of sorts

- Worked with Saeed Ajmal and was only able to create a fake copy of Saeed Ajmal out of it

I am not sure what big achievements Saqlain has a coach to manifest such an attitude. Was probably the greatest LOI spinner in my opinion to play the game but this attitude is not very impressive.

Wrong. He played a big part in the success of Moeen and Rashid.

 

[Hasan123]

To be honest Saqlain's coaching career isnt creating much impact at the moment.

- Was WI spin bowling coach and now they are left with almost no spinner in their international team

- Was coach for England and Moen Ali is facing almost worst slump in his form in years,

- Worked with PZ and Mohammad Asghar looked out of sorts

- Worked with Saeed Ajmal and was only able to create a fake copy of Saeed Ajmal out of it

I am not sure what big achievements Saqlain has a coach to manifest such an attitude. Was probably the greatest LOI spinner in my opinion to play the game but this attitude is not very impressive.

Moen Ali best spell for England was when Saqlain was the coach and he is a average spinner. Imagine what he can do with actual talented young spinners.

 

[Hasan123]

I think he can do a good job with young spinners. Also could help young batters with advice on how to play spin.

Would be happy if he worked at the NCA or if he got this role.

 

[Titan24]

Moen Ali best spell for England was when Saqlain was the coach and he is a average spinner. Imagine what he can do with actual talented young spinners.

Wrong. He played a big part in the success of Moeen and Rashid.

He must have played a part in Moen’s and Rashid’s success but what about other stints which I have mentioned where he couldnt achieve impressive results. He was with Moen in the WC and the first test as well and unfortunately couldnt do much about his form there as well.

Obviously Saqlain knows the art of spin bowling and I am just stating his last few stints, maybe he can do better with U19 team but other than the initial development of Moen there is nothing to rave about on paper atleast.

 

[Savak]

Not impressed with Saqlain's CV as coach. Has experience only as spin bowling coach for England and WI and he left both team's spinners in worst shape than he took over.

Was a great offie, no doubt but not cut for coaching.

CV's are a bit over rated. Just because you were successful in one stint does not mean you will be successful in another stint. Mushtaq Ahmed is a classic example, he was the head of NCA but what were his achievements during his tenure?

 

[Saj]

I think the salary will be the key for Saqlain.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

CV's are a bit over rated. Just because you were successful in one stint does not mean you will be successful in another stint. Mushtaq Ahmed is a classic example, he was the head of NCA but what were his achievements during his tenure?

Yasir Shah was great under Mushi.