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"I dont know why Mickey Arthur doesn't like me but as a coach I like him" : Umar Akmal

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"If you look at my last 4 Test innings, I did 3x50s and did not get to bat in one innings"

"So at that point, Waqar Younis, said that he [Umar] is no longer a Test player"

"This you must ask them (other coaches) why I wasnt selected for Tests but I am not giving up hope"

"I cant say much about (Mickey Arthur) but I am insistent on what I said before"

"I will do well in Pakistan cup and force the selectors to take me on"

"I dont know why Mickey Arthur does not like me but as a coach I like him"

"Fakhar Zaman should not be played as an experiment but given a proper chance"

"If Fakhar has been selected then give him 3-4 series to succeed and not sideline if he fails in one or 2 Tests"

"Sidelining a senior player like Hafeez is shocking news"

"If 'some' players fail(Yo Yo Test) by a small margin they are given warnings and pushed out"

"If you look at how Fawad Alam has maintained his average as a middle order batsman, and how he has performed in our domestic cricket which is very difficult, it is a shocking news for me that he hasnt been selected"

"I can't tell you what good human being Fawad is and how he respects youngsters and seniors alike"

"In 2010 we had things happening as we did in PSL 2, and the players were punished but they are still in the team"

"In such a big tour, 2 wicket keepers should be taken"
 
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Well he did say 1 sensible thing. 2 keepers should have been take especially with Sarfraz fitness.

For Umar Akmal to be selected he needs to score consistently at domestic level and to have good fitness levels.
 
Bring this legend right back into the T20 team at 5 and ODI team at 6.
 
Select Fakhar, select Hafeez, select Fawad, select me, select players who fail yo yo....does Umar realise that a team can field only 11 players
 
Except the Champions trophy, Umar Akmal's removal is by far the single greatest thing done by Mickey Arthur.

Glad this 'senior player' situation is kept to a minimal nowadays
 
Decent interview apart from his comments on Hafeez and the Yoyo test.

btw did he actually score three 50s in his last 4 test innings? I mean I know he was dropped harshly from the Test side but really?
 
Although I do believe he "had" immense potential to succeed as a no. 6 in Tests, I think the ship has sailed for him and he had regressed a lot since 2011.
 
PakSarZameen said:
Decent interview apart from his comments on Hafeez and the Yoyo test.

btw did he actually score three 50s in his last 4 test innings? I mean I know he was dropped harshly from the Test side but really?
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He did score 3 fifties in 4 innings against the 2 Test match series against WI in 2011. After that he played a solitary Test against Zimbabwe where he scored something like 11 or 12 before getting out on the last ball of the day, where he hit a shot which struck the fielder's shoe and bounced up and got caught. We won that match by 8 or 9 wickets and he didn't get to bat in the 4th innings. So he scored 3 fifties in his last 5 innings.
 
This is getting boring now Usual stuff from umar lobbying for his brother, playing the victim and blaming everyone but himself

Now hes using and dragging in the ouster of fawad n hafeez for his own benefit

This guy will never learn
 
Why’s everyone so upset about hafeez being sidelined?

That too in a couple of t20s.
 
Hafeez point was brought up by Umar's father in law and now him as well. Any coincidence? Are they trying to raise Hafeez to create discord in the team and create issues for Mickey?
 
I thought Mickey has disrespected him and the country. Am I missing something or is Umar also subject to memory loss?
 
Has no leg to stand on his own performance so doing the usual tripe: trying to take on popular causes (Fawad) or curry favor with rubbsish seniors (hafeez)
 
He was left at the hotel after playing 5 games in PSL by a foreign captain. There is no coming back after that.
 
This guy just can't keep his mouth shut. Most brainless athlete (if he is even qualified to be one) on this planet.
 
Get over it man ! How sensitive are these players.

The idea Mickey is a hard taskmaster is nonsense - he's simply trying to apply the same fitness and performance standards as every other top nation.

Infact he's more lenient than other countries as he inherited a team whose fitness levels were extremely below average - exemplified by Akmal jnr.
 
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Can't help but think would a cricketer like Umar Akmal have played this many matches had he belonged to any other part of the country. The Lahore lobby is what kept him in the side for the longest time despite zero performance.


Mickey is a God-send for this country. I do not agree with him on many things, but his handling of, never-beens like the Akmals has been top notch.
 
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PakSarZameen said:
btw did he actually score three 50s in his last 4 test innings? I mean I know he was dropped harshly from the Test side but really?
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No. He is lying.

He scored just ONE 50 in his last 4 test innings
 
Let's see if I can connect the dots for poor little Umar.

He fails the fitness test for seven times in a row. Somehow manages to pass it at the NCA and goes to UK to join the team for CT. There he fails the fitness test again. Later on after we have won the CT and team moral is at an all time high he comes out with a public statement accusing the coach of insulting not just him as a person but also the country and expects strict action from the PCB against the coach. Couple of months later the poor guy can't seem to figure out why the head coach dislikes him. Hmmmm I wonder why.
 
He desperately needs a sane PR person to guide him. He criticized the fitness test, the coach, selectors. He is throwing his hat into tests where he never was in contention for a while.
 
How old is he? 5? Hes been told many times Surely hes got enough iq to understand hes got attitude and fitness problems that need addressing as well as the fact he can hardly buy a run in any format

But no keep burying your head in the sand umar
 
I'm just wondering why doesn't his family or friends guide him. He clearly isn't smart enough to understand what he is doing or what he needs to do.
 
I know people are bashing him again, but by his standards, this sounds awfully sensible for him :)).

Made a good point about 2 wicket keepers, didn't talk ill of other cricketers or coaches.

I've said it again and not sure Umar realises but if Umar got fit and back in domestic form, Mickey will be one of the first guys to select him. Umar likes those who haven't shown previous international success, talented and still young enough. He's pretty hesitant on trying out the unknown until he's exhausted those first options first. He wanted to play both Umar and Irfan until he wised up about their current fitness/conditions.

All Umar has to focus on is getting fit, and the domestic form he'll probably regain back to. There's a particular deficit of batsmen who can hit against pace with the loss of Sharjeel, and the seniors only really being able to hit against spin.
 
I wish this guy would stop talking to the media and just perform in domestic cricket. That is his only option now if he ever wants to return to the national team.
 
Darkrai said:
I'm just wondering why doesn't his family or friends guide him. He clearly isn't smart enough to understand what he is doing or what he needs to do.
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With friends like Salman Butt while Kamran and Abdul Qadir as his family members, it's pretty obvious what kind of guidance he is getting.
 
Darkrai said:
I'm just wondering why doesn't his family or friends guide him. He clearly isn't smart enough to understand what he is doing or what he needs to do.
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His other family members include more akmals and then Abdul qadir. So there is no hope for him
 
Actually he is hinting a desi coach where him, his brothers, Butt and other parchis can return without having any fitness test and performances
 
Mickey actually rates him and wanted to see him in action. He is not a desi and doesnt take things personally.

It's U.Akmal's laziness and lack of effort he despises.
 
A more relevant question Umar should be asking is, why have I wasted the chances which have been given to me.
 
Zaz said:
This is getting boring now Usual stuff from umar lobbying for his brother, playing the victim and blaming everyone but himself

Now hes using and dragging in the ouster of fawad n hafeez for his own benefit

This guy will never learn
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Exactly.. straight as an arrow...

It is the difference in fitness where Shehzad kept playing and still in contention for one form or the other but this guy is forgotten..
 
Mickey please like me :)

Seems like Umar just wants a hug and be allowed to do what he wants.
 
He better do something special in this domestic tournament.
 
I know he is vouching for Fawad Alam just for the sack of it, but hope he realizes that Fawad Alam and him are both fighting for the same spot. lol :23:
 
Junior Akmal resorting to the "it's personal" excuse. If Akmal had the gumption to get his head down and work hard, he'd probably find himself in favour but sadly blaming all and sundry isn't going to help matters.
 
Interesting that it's not only coaches who are running out of patience with Junior - even agents are getting fed up him.
 
Coz Umar is unfit and inconsistent. That is why he is no longer in the side.
 
He done well in QEA

Umar Akmal scored 87* - and helped his side HBL to a 7 wickets win
 
He'll obviously have the occasional good innings. His issue was consistency, remains to be seen if that has improved
 
Needs to have a Conisstent QEA and improve his direness to the standard of the fitness test. He should then slot in at number 5. Where he belongs.

Malik can’t play pace and his stats show that. With the world cups in the UK, and Malik being a flop there. Umar Akmal should take his spot and give us the fire power we lack.
 
He's been given specific objectives about his fitness (The Yoyo test et all) and about the form he needs to get back into the team. Up to him now to fail and prove again why he's been dropped
 
InziRules said:
He's been given specific objectives about his fitness (The Yoyo test et all) and about the form he needs to get back into the team. Up to him now to fail and prove again why he's been dropped
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He’s lost a load of weight and looks a lot fitter. But sure you ignore that
 
The road to redemption for Umar Akmal is long, well long so if he wants to return back into the Pakistan team he will need to show consistency, selfness and must improve in all the facets that previous coaches and Mickey have mentioned. One other thing I must say is that he must maintain or improve his fitness. But like I said it will be a long road for a return.
 
He himself is to blame aswell but he is well capable of being an attacking 50 plus averaging batsman in UAE his test career was messed up would have developed his game aswell.
 
He had all the talent in the world , but no work ethics . Without work ethics you are bound to fail. He is pakistan Vinod kambli
 
Needs to let his bat do the talking. Just stay away from trouble and avoid any controversial statements in the media.
 
Carry on getting fit
Keep your head down and stay out of trouble
Bat with responsibility
Play to the situation
Consistency
Lastly dedication and a work ethic

Umar Akmal needs to stick to these points and return to the side and resume his career.
 
MenInG said:
He done well in QEA

Umar Akmal scored 87* - and helped his side HBL to a 7 wickets win
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Last time I saw him was in the PSL, he looked like a tail ender over there and his own captain, team management openly started criticizing him in public.

Am still puzzled as to why is Fawad Rana still persisting with Aqib and Brendon Mccullam, two seasons are enough to understand that 2 individuals are unfit for the team.
 
I remember watching him in his debut series and thought what a talent. Also remember him helping us get over the line against West Indies in the Champions Trophy in tough circumstances.

The fact this team doesn't miss him one bit goes to show what a waste of talent he has been. It was his own fault too. Lacks the desire, the mental fortitude and work ethic to ever realize his potential. He has deteriorated as a batsman and even if he makes a comeback he is likely to be nothing more than a hard-hitting hack.
 
Cric1234 said:
He himself is to blame aswell but he is well capable of being an attacking 50 plus averaging batsman in UAE his test career was messed up would have developed his game aswell.
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He is a very poor player of spin, especially finger spin. There is no way he could have averaged 50+ in the UAE or Asia.
 
Pakistan is not missing him because

1. They have been playing against weaker opponents lately.
2. Asif Ali / Shoaib Malik
3. Fakhar Zaman's golden run.

The problem is though, that Pak still doesn't have a dependable line up. An in-form Akmal would have been more than a blessing.
 
RickyG said:
I remember watching him in his debut series and thought what a talent. Also remember him helping us get over the line against West Indies in the Champions Trophy in tough circumstances.

The fact this team doesn't miss him one bit goes to show what a waste of talent he has been. It was his own fault too. Lacks the desire, the mental fortitude and work ethic to ever realize his potential. He has deteriorated as a batsman and even if he makes a comeback he is likely to be nothing more than a hard-hitting hack.
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Talent always catches the eye on camera. I don't recall the last time I ever saw an eye catching innings from him. Besides he was not a reliable hitter of the ball and had limited, predictable scoring areas.
 
sl-fan-of-pak said:
Pakistan is not missing him because

1. They have been playing against weaker opponents lately.
2. Asif Ali / Shoaib Malik
3. Fakhar Zaman's golden run.

The problem is though, that Pak still doesn't have a dependable line up. An in-form Akmal would have been more than a blessing.
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Someone like Umar Akmal with a high-risk approach to batting even on his best days will never make this Pakistan team reliable.
 
ChuckLee said:
Needs to have a Conisstent QEA and improve his direness to the standard of the fitness test. He should then slot in at number 5. Where he belongs.

Malik can’t play pace and his stats show that. With the world cups in the UK, and Malik being a flop there. Umar Akmal should take his spot and give us the fire power we lack.
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The only thing he will give us is another joke.

He does not have the mental capability to string together two consecutive innings and Pakistan team has got better ever since he left it.
 
So chance for Umar Akmal to make another entrance in the Pakistan side? now that Mickey is gone
 
We needed him in the world cup.

Could have won us many matches, but Arthur's ego came in the way.

Now's not the right time for UA. Arthur cost us a LOT.
 
Hawkeye said:
We needed him in the world cup.

Could have won us many matches, but Arthur's ego came in the way.

Now's not the right time for UA. Arthur cost us a LOT.
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Lol bro, ive been following PP for almost a decade now. No one has cost umar akmal more then himself... dont blame arthur for not picking an unfit UA.

Umar has his chance vs AUS and failed.
 
Hawkeye said:
We needed him in the world cup.

Could have won us many matches, but Arthur's ego came in the way.

Now's not the right time for UA. Arthur cost us a LOT.
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Lol bro, ive been following PP for almost a decade now. No one has cost umar akmal more then himself... dont blame arthur for not picking an unfit UA.

Umar has his chance vs AUS and failed.
 
His time has come and gone. Should be left to rotten in domestic cricket now.
 
The way Mickey took Umar Akmal to task after 2017 CT, and left Junior crying to media was hilarious.

Hopefully successor will do the same.
 
Sir-fraz said:
Lol bro, ive been following PP for almost a decade now. No one has cost umar akmal more then himself... dont blame arthur for not picking an unfit UA.

Umar has his chance vs AUS and failed.
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Umar got selected for ODIs based off of PSL performance.

He deserves to be in the T20I team especially over Hafeez and Malik.
 
Sir-fraz said:
Dont need him for either
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Yea u do because when it comes to T20, you can't pick youngsters because they will play slow.

Right now Pakistan has:
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Asif

They need one more batsman.
 
Rayyman said:
Yea u do because when it comes to T20, you can't pick youngsters because they will play slow.

Right now Pakistan has:
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Asif

They need one more batsman.
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Yeah your preaching to a non bias fan..

Ive been reading for a long time and hawkeye and you are umar akmal fans period.

No we dont need him. We dont need an unfit player with single digit IQ.

He doesnt deserve to be in the team regardless of his performance in the PSL... due to his antics.

He is done and dusted.
 
I’d rather have XYZ then see this clown back in The setup, hell I would even take Misbah & Younus over him & even Kamran Akmal lol
 
I think many coaches would dislike you, Umar Akmal. It is because you are dramatic and you haven't fulfilled your potential.

With the arrivals of likes of Babar, Imam etc., days of Umar Akmal are surely over.
 
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