"I don't want to criticize Younis as he can easily score a 100 in the next innings" : Wasim Akram

[MenInG]

"I don't want to criticize Younis as he can easily score a 100 in the next innings" : Wasim Akram

Wasim Akram speaking on TV today

"I would have played Sharjeel as opener and pushed Azhar back to the number 3 position as I feel that he is a middle-order batsman who we are using as an opener"

"Yasir Shah should have been in the team because if the pitch is soft then the ball will grip more"

"In 1993 when we played in Hamilton, we practiced on a pitch next to the Test pitch which looked exactly the same and the ball swung a lot; When the Test match started, we found that there was no swing at all on the Test pitch; guess that's what pressure does to you"

"The last time a good spell that I have seen from a fast-bowler was probably from Mohammad Asif who had great control of his wrist"

"Once in a while you will get a 5fer as a fluke but real good bowling comes when you have control over what you want to bowl in the next delivery"

"If we had a long line of potential openers then I can almost understand us if we didnt play Sami but what he needs are few opportunities to prove himself"

"I don't want to criticize Younis as he can easily score a 100 in the next innings"

"Imran Khan has some pressure on him as he has been out of the team but sometimes its good to be on edge"

 

[Hitman]

Why do people criticize Younis Khan in the first place? Aren't you fans satisfied with what he has been doing for his team since the last few years? What more can a batsman do!! Before criticizing him at least give him the whole series, and if he doesn't perform at all then there will be a case.

 

[Hitman]

BTW, does any fan believe their team will be better off with a youngster in place of Younis Khan at this point? I seriously don't think so. Legends like Viv, Sachin and Ponting performed below par during the last couple of years in their career, yet Younis Khan is doing wonderfully well for his age. Cut him some slack, some of you ungrateful fans!

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Scared to criticize him on his wrist position too?

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Rightly said. Agree with wasim. I would never criticize Younis. Pak is still great in test for the seniors in the team. Respect for them to hang on till now.

 

[Boi]

The first quote just epitomises how clueless these ex players really are. They have no idea that Azhar actually started off as an opener and is one by trade. It was just Waqar Younis who made him debut at 3 in England in 2010. His technique and approach is suited to opening, crazy how the misconception of him being a middle order batsmen still persists amongst our so called 'analysts'.

 

[Amjid Javed]

All players deserve criticism as long as its warranted and done in a constructive manner and then the player should go on from that and use it to improve their performances.

 

[Jabo]

Stopped reading when he said azhar is a middle order batsman

 

[moghul]

Yeah, lets keep Younis Khan in , until we have a match in UAE next time and very likely he will score some runs there and will be closer to 10K runs. Till then all we have to do is to waste one batting spot and lose some tests, not much to sacrifice for this "legendary" batsman. Who care if younger batsmen like Usma Salahuddin piling up runs in domestics.

 

[moghul]

BTW, does any fan believe their team will be better off with a youngster in place of Younis Khan at this point? I seriously don't think so. Legends like Viv, Sachin and Ponting performed below par during the last couple of years in their career, yet Younis Khan is doing wonderfully well for his age. Cut him some slack, some of you ungrateful fans!

Younis Khan is no Tendulakar or Ponting, at the moment he is no more than a liability, a burden on the team. There are at least 10 youngster who could score better than what YK has done in last of his 10 innings.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Younis Khan is no Tendulakar or Ponting, at the moment he is no more than a liability, a burden on the team. There are at least 10 youngster who could score better than what YK has done in last of his 10 innings.

Haha name them. Would they have got a series defining 200 too?

 

[Black Zero]

Why do people criticize Younis Khan in the first place? Aren't you fans satisfied with what he has been doing for his team since the last few years? What more can a batsman do!! Before criticizing him at least give him the whole series, and if he doesn't perform at all then there will be a case.

for a very simple reason, YK fails too much and costs team dearly...(discussed his inconsistency in several other threads).

He scores only iunder good batting conditions, and fails otherwise.
I agree, if he is selected for NZL then he should play all matches (and as expected he will score (and score big) in one inning only).

Let him hit whatever milestone he wants to hit and then retire gracefully.
(As he was dropped from ODIs, so personally I do not expect him to retire gracefully in tests : )

 

[Slog]

BTW, does any fan believe their team will be better off with a youngster in place of Younis Khan at this point? I seriously don't think so. Legends like Viv, Sachin and Ponting performed below par during the last couple of years in their career, yet Younis Khan is doing wonderfully well for his age. Cut him some slack, some of you ungrateful fans!

haha the funny thing is that its def not warranted criticism because he is performing


yes there is inconsistency that one big innings is followed by 2-3 low scores but its not like other batsmen give better output by any stretch

 

[Slog]

Younis Khan is no Tendulakar or Ponting, at the moment he is no more than a liability, a burden on the team. There are at least 10 youngster who could score better than what YK has done in last of his 10 innings.

name 5 please lol

you do know theres 5-6 other batting spots and if there are youngsters who could do better than YK they would already be in the team in place of someone else

 

[Slog]

The first quote just epitomises how clueless these ex players really are. They have no idea that Azhar actually started off as an opener and is one by trade..

poor logic

he started off as a leg spinnr so by your logic he is a spinner by trade

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

Younis Khan is no Tendulakar or Ponting, at the moment he is no more than a liability, a burden on the team. There are at least 10 youngster who could score better than what YK has done in last of his 10 innings.

Our success in test match cricket wouldn't have been possible without Younis. It's one thing to dislike a person for who he is, I certainly don't appreciate his antics. However, let's not be blinded with dislike and disregard his ability or contribution as a player. He was the reason we drew england after being hounded by critics.

We need him till Austrailia, not some wonder kid who just might end up in the plethora of other young "talents" over the years.

 

[Rayyman]

Our success in test match cricket wouldn't have been possible without Younis. It's one thing to dislike a person for who he is, I certainly don't appreciate his antics. However, let's not be blinded with dislike and disregard his ability or contribution as a player. He was the reason we drew england after being hounded by critics.

We need him till Austrailia, not some wonder kid who just might end up in the plethora of other young "talents" over the years.

Yeah. Last time Umar Akmal played in Australia, they called him a blend of Miandad and Tendulkar.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Younis Khan is no Tendulakar or Ponting, at the moment he is no more than a liability, a burden on the team. There are at least 10 youngster who could score better than what YK has done in last of his 10 innings.

Can I please know who those 'youngsters' are ?? Well I will make it easy for you if you can just name 5 out of the 10 that you are talking about.....

 

[Major]

Why do people criticize Younis Khan in the first place? Aren't you fans satisfied with what he has been doing for his team since the last few years? What more can a batsman do!! Before criticizing him at least give him the whole series, and if he doesn't perform at all then there will be a case.

He is criticized for his inability to bat on fast bowling friendly pitches, and he doesn't accept his short comings. If he gets dropped he ends up critisizing those who dropped him.

If you look at the England series, he performed in the last game, which we drawed because of him. BUt i also remember one thing, that series could had been won had he performed in the earlier 6 innings.

His consistency lacks, he can't bat in this conditions, and thats what affects our poor batting.

 

[Major]

BTW, does any fan believe their team will be better off with a youngster in place of Younis Khan at this point? I seriously don't think so. Legends like Viv, Sachin and Ponting performed below par during the last couple of years in their career, yet Younis Khan is doing wonderfully well for his age. Cut him some slack, some of you ungrateful fans!

When Younis stands on the crease, you know he will get out cheaply, when someone else will come, atleast we could rely on hope that he would perform and score a 50 atleast.

 

[Major]

The only thing good about Younis Khan is that he has an ability to score 200 mamoth scores which no batsmen in our team could score, but the problem you dont know when will he perform, after 10 or 20 games?

 

[Boi]

poor logic

he started off as a leg spinnr so by your logic he is a spinner by trade

Err more like poor comprehension skills from you mate. It's funny how you cut the second part of the quote out when that was also part of the explanation. I did not say that just because he started off as something he is that by trade. If you look at his technique, approach and batting position in domestic games before he got selected for Pakistan, he has always modelled his game as an opener and more often than not played as one. He hardly ever played as a middle order batsmen in FC cricket in the couple seasons before he first got selected or for the A team in 2009. Yes, Azhar did a good job at number 3 but so far he's done well as an opener as well. Hes developing a good partnership with Sami at the top of the order and we've finally found two players there who know where their off stump is yet our ex-players think it's wise to disrupt that so quickly and get someone in who would be a lottery on these wickets.

 

[moghul]

Can I please know who those 'youngsters' are ?? Well I will make it easy for you if you can just name 5 out of the 10 that you are talking about.....

Usman Salahhudin, Rizwan, Fawad, Umar Amin, Saad ALi, Farukh Zaman, Sharjeel, Give any one of these players 10 consecutive innings in overseas condition and I'm sure they will score in more than one inning. Unlike YK who's only contribution was at Oval in 4 test in England and so far one in NZL.

 

[Pakistanian]

Usman Salahhudin, Rizwan, Fawad, Umar Amin, Saad ALi, Farukh Zaman, Sharjeel, Give any one of these players 10 consecutive innings in overseas condition and I'm sure they will score in more than one inning. Unlike YK who's only contribution was at Oval in 4 test in England and so far one in NZL.

All those guys are 24+. That's not really youth at that point.

 

[moghul]

All those guys are 24+. That's not really youth at that point.

We are talking about under 19 team. All except Alam are in their 20s, a perfect age to make a debut. And, how old is YK and where does he stands in your futuristic plans .

 

[godzilla]

younis test average: 53.4
last three years: 60.76
last two years: 49.77 (17 matches)
last 12 months: 45.83 (8 matches)

hes doing excellently well. if he were averaging 30, it would be a problem. until then, theres plenty of others to kick out first. this unintelligent, pathetic knee jerking is tiresome.

just for comparisons sake - asad technique shafiq, who has the best technique (whatever that means) in the world
which enables hims to score mountains of runs everywhere on the planet, averages 36 over the past 12 months, versus a career average of 42.

babar azam, the golden child of pp, get him into every side, are the selectors mad, etc etc *********-extreme - only just manages to average 40 in first class cricket, the easiest of all of these comparisons.

classy left hander, the darling of so many here, doesnt even average 39 in first class. and salahuddin, although looking promising with his first class average of 48 in 145 innings, is way down the pecking order if performance is a criteria.

rizwan, who is the next best in the view of team pcb's thick tank, averages 43 in FC cricket.

so if you are unhappy with younis, you should be significantly more unhappy with several other players before you can even think of jettisoning younis from the squad - thats if you have any common sense, consistency and honesty about you.

he is rated the 6th best test bat in the world, is the highest rated pak batsman with the next player being misbah at 14th position, to even think of dropping him is idiotic.

 

[Pakistanian]

We are talking about under 19 team. All except Alam are in their 20s, a perfect age to make a debut. And, how old is YK and where does he stands in your futuristic plans .

Younis Khan should retire in the next year.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Usman Salahhudin, Rizwan, Fawad, Umar Amin, Saad ALi, Farukh Zaman, Sharjeel, Give any one of these players 10 consecutive innings in overseas condition and I'm sure they will score in more than one inning. Unlike YK who's only contribution was at Oval in 4 test in England and so far one in NZL.

Umar Amin? I would prefer a 50 years old Younis over him.

 

[aloo paratha]

Younis is a legend no doubt but that doesn't mean he cannot be criticized, the best of the best have problems.

 

[Abdullah719]

Not today. Been very poor in New Zealand so far and a couple of bad shots included in those dismissals.

 

[moghul]

How long more we have to carry this burden called Younis Khan with the team, enough is enough. Send him home ASAP please.

 

[Jabo]

Mr team man should announce his retirement, he isn't going to do well in Australia.

And before his fans start moaning, he plays 1 good innings every 6 innings now.

 

[Mamoon]

I am also scared of criticizing him.

After failing throughout the tour, the ATG will score a hundred in the last innings on a flat wicket and his fans will say that he proved me wrong.

 

[James]

younis test average: 53.4
last three years: 60.76
last two years: 49.77 (17 matches)
last 12 months: 45.83 (8 matches)

hes doing excellently well. if he were averaging 30, it would be a problem. until then, theres plenty of others to kick out first. this unintelligent, pathetic knee jerking is tiresome.

just for comparisons sake - asad technique shafiq, who has the best technique (whatever that means) in the world
which enables hims to score mountains of runs everywhere on the planet, averages 36 over the past 12 months, versus a career average of 42.

babar azam, the golden child of pp, get him into every side, are the selectors mad, etc etc *********-extreme - only just manages to average 40 in first class cricket, the easiest of all of these comparisons.

classy left hander, the darling of so many here, doesnt even average 39 in first class. and salahuddin, although looking promising with his first class average of 48 in 145 innings, is way down the pecking order if performance is a criteria.

rizwan, who is the next best in the view of team pcb's thick tank, averages 43 in FC cricket.

so if you are unhappy with younis, you should be significantly more unhappy with several other players before you can even think of jettisoning younis from the squad - thats if you have any common sense, consistency and honesty about you.

he is rated the 6th best test bat in the world, is the highest rated pak batsman with the next player being misbah at 14th position, to even think of dropping him is idiotic.

Good post and I agree. I do however see where some people are coming from in terms of perception. He sadly does have this tendency to get out cheaply and in really poor fashion, and do it 4 or 5 times on the bounce as well. Just happened again today. It can come across as extremely irresponsible and immature for such a senior player (with a chequered off-field history). But you are right - given the other options on the table, there is no genuine case to drop him from the side.

 

[MenInG]

I am also scared of criticizing him.

After failing throughout the tour, the ATG will score a hundred in the last innings on a flat wicket and his fans will say that he proved me wrong.

Which flat wickets are you envisaging in the coming few months?

 

[Chief Destroyer]

He can't play consistent lateral movement. Period.

Hopefully gets a nice flat track in Melbourne and Sydney so he can pad his stats again.

 

[Ellipsism]

Which flat wickets are you envisaging in the coming few months?

The flat Aussie wickets.

 

[MenInG]

The flat Aussie wickets.

So scoring a hundred in Australia is a bad thing? The bias against players is shocking.

 

[JibranAnsari]

His next innings will be a 100, write it down somewhere.

 

[moghul]

If I would be Younis Khan, would have been so much ashamed of myself for being paid so mucd,money spent on me and blocking the spot for a youngster for so long, for scoring nothing match after match, but I'm not YK and he doesn't care, neither the selection committee .

 

[Mamoon]

His next innings will be a 100, write it down somewhere.

He is one of the biggest flat track bullies of all time, so there is no need to write it down. If he gets a flat wicket, he will score 8/10 times.

 

[Mamoon]

So scoring a hundred in Australia is a bad thing? The bias against players is shocking.

Of course not, but scoring in one innings and failing throughout the series doesn't help the team.

 

[JibranAnsari]

He is one of the biggest flat track bullies of all time, so there is no need to write it down. If he gets a flat wicket, he will score 8/10 times.

Next innings will be on the same wicket.

 

[Markhor]

Is he being exposed technically or is it just stupid shots ?

He's been out chasing balls way outside off in 2 out of 3 innings so far in this series.

 

[Buffet]

Is he being exposed technically or is it just stupid shots ?

A bit of both.

 

[Mamoon]

Next innings will be on the same wicket.

Let's see if the pitch becomes easier to bat.

 

[Bilal7]

Fourth innings, questions over his skill, slighted by the board by not being given the captaincy, team under pressure.

History dictates that a 150 is due from the bat of Younis Khan. Gotta love seeing even his haters brace themselves by using the flat pitch excuse.

This pitch won't flatten out at all.

 

[godzilla]

well well well.

top score 50 in the first innings of the practice match for younis 'too old to play in australia' khan.

and another failure for shafiq technique.

 

[shaz619]

well well well.

top score 50 in the first innings of the practice match for younis 'too old to play in australia' khan.

and another failure for shafiq technique.

Khan shouldn't be counted out despite evidence which suggests otherwise

What has the pitch been like for the warm up game?

 

[The_Odd_One]

well well well.

top score 50 in the first innings of the practice match for younis 'too old to play in australia' khan.

and another failure for shafiq technique.

The thing with Younis is that he can hit a big hundred anytime which Asad clearly is not capable of.

 

[moghul]

well well well.

top score 50 in the first innings of the practice match for younis 'too old to play in australia' khan.

and another failure for shafiq technique.

Just look at the profiles of the bowlers he faced for his 50, some junior club level cricketers.

 

[Zaz]

Just look at the profiles of the bowlers he faced for his 50, some junior club level cricketers.

Didnt shafiq and co face the same bowlers or did the other team quickly substitute them for the likes of warne and McGrath when the rest were batting?

Some of the hate here for certain players is beyond ridiculous

 

[godzilla]

Just look at the profiles of the bowlers he faced for his 50, some junior club level cricketers.

the same junior club level bowlers that bowled out all the other batters who unlike younis can play in australia? like aslam for 10? azher for 20? babar the saviour for 16? or asad technique shafiq for 18?

 

[moghul]

the same junior club level bowlers that bowled out all the other batters who unlike younis can play in australia? like aslam for 10? azher for 20? babar the saviour for 16? or asad technique shafiq for 18?

Unlike others, YK never misses chance to score runs against weak bowling and on flat tracks of UAE. Against quality bowling, a different story.

 

[godzilla]

Unlike others, YK never misses chance to score runs against weak bowling and on flat tracks of UAE. Against quality bowling, a different story.

really? is that why he averaging 30% higher than technique shafiq in the past 12 months?

 

[sa]

Why do people criticize Younis Khan in the first place? Aren't you fans satisfied with what he has been doing for his team since the last few years? What more can a batsman do!! Before criticizing him at least give him the whole series, and if he doesn't perform at all then there will be a case.

Our expectation is that he scores century in every single of his last innings. If not, we want to chop him out.. That's the mentally many of Pak fans have here.

on the side note, Wasim is asking Sharjeel to open in Australia...lol... if he plays, I bet this thread will be filled with topics like "is Sharjeel the best opener we have" "Drop Sharjeel" " Here is my team without Sharjeel"

 

[s28]

Has anybody started a 'Drop Misbah' thread after he scored 0 off 29 balls against a 'bunch of kids' ?