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"I feel the improvements and am definitely a better batsman than before" : Asif Ali

What a waste of space this guy is...complete garbage, cant plan spin, cant play short, cant play good lenght and but he could hit trundler once in a bluemoon on half vollies
 
Id like someone to point out another batter in any other team who doesnt bowl who comes out after the lower order usually at 7-8 and only when there are 2-3 overs left and avges a huge 9 runs per innings for the year

Name me one pls
 
Zaz said:
Id like someone to point out another batter in any other team who doesnt bowl who comes out after the lower order usually at 7-8 and only when there are 2-3 overs left and avges a huge 9 runs per innings for the year

Name me one pls
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Can you point out another side with a top 3 like ours too?

Our style of cricket is a complete anomaly.

And for the moment, Asif despite his lack of recent success, is needed.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Can you point out another side with a top 3 like ours too?

Our style of cricket is a complete anomaly.

And for the moment, Asif despite his lack of recent success, is needed.
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Needed for what exactly? Im not interested in what he can potentially bring to the table, but more what he actually does?

An avge of 9 over the last 15-20 games suggests he doesnt bring anything and isnt needed
 
Zaz said:
Needed for what exactly? Im not interested in what he can potentially bring to the table, but more what he actually does?

An avge of 9 over the last 15-20 games suggests he doesnt bring anything and isnt needed
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It really is for the potential. We are going into the world cup....and in the most recent WC this guy won us two games singlehandedly.

He is the only batsman we have that has demonstrated winning matches from hopeless situations.

Given 95% of the time the top order consumes most of the deliveries he isn't doing much harm either.

But if the stars align and he gets a few in his range than he can make the impossible possible.
 
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DeadlyVenom said:
It really is for the potential. We are going into the world cup....and in the most recent WC this guy won us two games singlehandedly.

He is the only batsman we have that has demonstrated winning matches from hopeless situations.

Given 95% of the time the top order consumes most of the deliveries he isn't doing much harm either.

But if the stars align and he gets a few in his range than he can make the impossible possible.
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This is the thing Most teams have worked him out since that WC Hes a very limited batter who can only hit down the ground and who only feeds off deliveries in the slot

They havent been feeding him medium pace gentle lobs like nz did or medium pace floaters like karim jannat
 
Zaz said:
Id like someone to point out another batter in any other team who doesnt bowl who comes out after the lower order usually at 7-8 and only when there are 2-3 overs left and avges a huge 9 runs per innings for the year

Name me one pls
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When you say it like that, he does seem like a waste of space but if there is a superover situation or if Pakistan needs a couple of sixes, he's the man for the job.

Someone needs to do an analysis showing how many deliveries batsmen take to hit a six and see where Asif is placed.
 
Doing well Asif - this could be his big game!
 
Should be allowed to bat no. 5 even with cautious approach he strikes near 150 which the so called middle order is incapable of
 
Bilal7 said:
When you say it like that, he does seem like a waste of space but if there is a superover situation or if Pakistan needs a couple of sixes, he's the man for the job.

Someone needs to do an analysis showing how many deliveries batsmen take to hit a six and see where Asif is placed.
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How many super over games we get in a year? How many super overs pakistan has played in t20 history?
 
Why, oh why Asif?

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I’ll take Fakhar over this dude any time. I have no clue why the think tank is investing in such a brainless cricketer. Loves to squander away position of strength.
 
At the moment it looks like the number 9 spot is his.

Come in for 2 or 3 balls and swing away.
 
He seems to lack basic game awareness. One thing is to not be selfish, but you can't be plain stupid either. When he came in today the required RR was well under control. Should have just been taking singles and then start launching. But he keeps disappointing.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I read what you said loud and clear. You are talking in truisms and stating the obvious for which I care very little about. Yeah, I too want world peace and the end of human suffering, Doesn't mean it is a realistic thing that'll happen anytime soon, if ever.

The position that Asif Ali plays in, he CANNOT get more of a feel. This is a guy who is coming in with 3 overs to spare. There is only one way to bat in a situation like this.

Also, there is a reason why he is batting there. And it has less to do with the team not trusting him than it has to do with his strengths and what he brings to the table. One stat that I have mentioned far too many times here is that Asif Ali has a SR of 189 in the death-overs (second highest in the world). He also strikes at 150+ against bowling over 140 kph. These two stats tell you that there is no other position for him to bat but 6/7.

Asif Ali is a bits and pieces player who will probably never even be successful at ODI cricket. But that's okay because T20 cricket is a format that is made for bits and pieces players.

It's all about how smart YOU ARE in maximizing those bits and pieces.
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Please enlighten us again
 
Pakistan are playing with 10 players with him in the side.

Please, even waseem jr can swing blindly and hit a couple of sixes.

Drop this guy.

Okay granted that he may even play 1 crucial knock in a high profile game.

But in the grand scheme of things, is that worth it?

All these matches could be used to groom another player who might not score 40 off 18 balls once in 15 matches. But may give you 30 in 18 balls regularly.

Please use some sense.
 
In the series against England, he hit 2 sixes in total...

This series, he hit zero sixes!

Yet to score a single 50 after playing just over 50 matches...

Is there anyone in the history of Pakistani cricket who has played for so long and only performed once in a blue moon?
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
About what? Think I have made my views on this matter abundantly clear. Maybe you should read the post again incase you missed something.
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Do you still believe asif ali belongs in international cricket?
Can we afford to waste a spot in the side for occasional couple of sixes? And even those sixes are becoming increasingly rare. He hit only 2 sixes in England series and may be 1 or 2 in tri series. He’s come in with many overs left in last 2 series but done nothing of note. Now even that excuse is out of the window.
I know pak is not richly talented in batting but Asif Ali supporters are trying to make it seem even worse.
 
NeVerMind said:
In the series against England, he hit 2 sixes in total...

This series, he hit zero sixes!

Yet to score a single 50 after playing just over 50 matches...

Is there anyone in the history of Pakistani cricket who has played for so long and only performed once in a blue moon?
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He is easily the worst player ever to represent Pak for 50+ international games. By a fair margin
 
Great player

He will come through and you will all remember the name
 
Ahmed216 said:
Do you still believe asif ali belongs in international cricket?
Can we afford to waste a spot in the side for occasional couple of sixes? And even those sixes are becoming increasingly rare. He hit only 2 sixes in England series and may be 1 or 2 in tri series. He’s come in with many overs left in last 2 series but done nothing of note. Now even that excuse is out of the window.
I know pak is not richly talented in batting but Asif Ali supporters are trying to make it seem even worse.
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Absolutely. Those one or two sixes can have their weight in gold if they come at the right time. Because as we have seen in the past, they do make a difference. So yes, I would say that he definitely belongs in international cricket and is an important part of the side because of what he brings to the table.
 
:)))

This is incredible.

Asif should stay in the team because one day, he might hit two sixes that wins Pakistan a game.

It doesn’t matter if those two sixes come after 100 games. He should be in the team because it might happen one day.

He has the easiest job in the game. The only player who has no accountability.

The Asif fan club is a work of art.
 
Mamoon said:
:)))

This is incredible.

Asif should stay in the team because one day, he might hit two sixes that wins Pakistan a game.

It doesn’t matter if those two sixes come after 100 games. He should be in the team because it might happen one day.

He has the easiest job in the game. The only player who has no accountability.

The Asif fan club is a work of art.
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Yeah and that too against Afghanistan or Bangladesh. And one day he will also be used in super over in next ten years. 😄
 
Jazx said:
Yeah and that too against Afghanistan or Bangladesh. And one day he will also be used in super over in next ten years. 😄
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If he would have hit 3-4 sixes today, his fans would puff their chests and claim that Pakistan would not have won without him and this is why he is in the team.

They don’t see the flaw in their argument. Even his family members cannot justify his selection with a straight face. Playing with Asif essentially means playing with 10 men.

He is the least useful player in the team by a country mile.
 
Mamoon said:
If he would have hit 3-4 sixes today, his fans would puff their chests and claim that Pakistan would not have won without him and this is why he is in the team.

They don’t see the flaw in their argument. Even his family members cannot justify his selection with a straight face. Playing with Asif essentially means playing with 10 men.

He is the least useful player in the team by a country mile.
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Its because most of them thinks such kind of 2-3 fluke hits wins them matches, not the people who contributes most of the runs with bat.
 
Forgot to provide the update. Asif performance today 1 (2) match and 96 (22) nets.

Overall he had the highest intent and impact off the field.
 
ZafarKhan2022 said:
Pir-e-Bhutan Sahibzada Mohammad Shahid Khan Afridi
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No. He performed regularly with the ball. And as crazy as his batting was, he was much more reliable than Asif. And clearly he was more gifted.

Believe me, I am no fan of his batting and think he played way past his prime. Should have been dropped many years before he retired. But to put him in the same bracket as Asif is unfair to him.
 
Cheif Selector has asked Asif to hit only 148 sixes a day and save the 2 for actual match as after hitting 150 sixes he is usually out of gas and he gets out on zeros ...
 
At the moment it looks like he is a number 8 or 9 batter with the team only trusting him to last a few balls.

Poor tri-series:

32 runs in 4 innings at a strike rate of just 114.28
 
Ahmed216 said:
He is easily the worst player ever to represent Pak for 50+ international games. By a fair margin
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Asad Shafiq's odi career says hi

Not much of a fan of Asif, he isnt even a batsman, just a proper slogger. He has won Pakistan games however (more than Asad could ever say_, and due to how cowardly our batting tactics are, even Asif's 15 run average has its uses
 
Would discard him for another pacer. Bring in Hasnain or Wasim Jnr instead. Trust Nawaz & Shadab with the bat.
 
He is not holier than thou, should be axed if fails against India

1.Babar
2.Rizwan
3.Fakhar
4.Nawaz
5.Haider
6.Iftikhar
7.Shadab
8.Asif /Shan
9.WasimJr.
11.Rauf
10.Naseem

Shan at 8 looks ridiculous but it is logical instead of walking wicket Asif Ali why play Shan @8 to anchor the tail in worst case scenario otherwise he he should not be utilized rather just make up the number and give 120% in field
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Asad Shafiq's odi career says hi

Not much of a fan of Asif, he isnt even a batsman, just a proper slogger. He has won Pakistan games however (more than Asad could ever say_, and due to how cowardly our batting tactics are, even Asif's 15 run average has its uses
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Asad Shafiq was a test player u can't compare him to a low grade slogger. Asad has hundreds in Aus SA Eng.

Asif swings his bat blindly and it comes off once in a blue moon. That's all there is to his batting. The probability of him winning a match is the lowest ever for any lower order batter.
 
Ahmed216 said:
Asad Shafiq was a test player u can't compare him to a low grade slogger. Asad has hundreds in Aus SA Eng.

Asif swings his bat blindly and it comes off once in a blue moon. That's all there is to his batting. The probability of him winning a match is the lowest ever for any lower order batter.
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Agree that Asif is a blind slogger, but i reffered to Asad’s odi career, which is probsbly one of the worst in history
 
Madplayer said:
I think you have forgotten your favourite ODI batsman Younis Khan :)))
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Yes well he gets the award for being the worst player to play more than 200 games in one format.


At least PP is over flirting with the idea that he was a good coach. The guyer has a bigger ego than Michael Jordan, and Ronaldo combined
 
He is utterly dreadful. His fans are still clinging on that fluke performance against Afghanistan. If you give endless chances to someone, he is bound to perform in a couple of games. He is the worst batsman to play so many games for Pakistan
 
Asif has won more than just the Afghanistan game for Pakistan. Let's not forget the way he smashed South in the previous T20 WC.

I agree that Asif is not trustworthy and borderline a liability on most days. However, he deserves a space in the team provided that Khushdil Shah and Chacha Ifti aren't playing.
 
Lot of free ride being given to asif why not we get someone from county circuit and make him eligible with ICC to play for us or someone for Caribbean or some Kolpak hitter and if all this is difficult why not select AzamKhan he is definitely better than Asif Practice6er
 
The worst player to come out of Pakistan! The whole management and the coach and captain should be sacked on Asif’s persistent selection despite zero performance.
 
i was always confused and on the fence with asif ali, but today sealed the deal for.me... he should be out of the team... unless he consistently performs
 
Asif is blameless. The ones to blame are the braindead selectors, management and fans who think this useless hack is of any use. Khushdil has been criticized so vociferously, but rarely does this good for nothing player ever get the kind of flak that he deserves only because he hits a couple of sixes every five games. Never has any team ever played a frontline batter whose entire role is to play 3-4 balls at 7 and hit 2 sixes and who is considered to have done his bit if he does that regardless of the situation. Perhaps our selectors and management are firm believers of the infinite monkey theorem - that a monkey randomly hitting keys on a typewriter, given infinite time will eventually type Shakespeare. If there is to be only positive for Pakistan in this tournament, I hope it is the end of this trundler's career.
 
Asif Ali averages 15 in T20s and 26 in first class. This is playing as a proper batsman. This shows the standard of Pakistan cricket. He has played around 70 intl matches!
 
Hes a waste of a spot Ive said it a hundred times He doesnt perform 9 times out of 10

Today a an extra pacer wouldve been a much better option for pakistan

Even the tail can hit the odd 6. Rauf hit one first ball, shaheen hit a couple

Whats the use of asif ali Hes wasting a spot We cant play him for his 1 in 10 cameos
 
I am surprised that I ams aying this but PCT missed Asif yesterday. Asif had pulled Pak out of trouble a couple of times whilst chasing 130ish scores against AFG and NZ. If Asif was played instead of Haider he might have hit a couple of lusty blows and secured his place for another 20-30 internationsla. Though him handling the Perth bounce is a big question mark.
 
ex-q-zit said:
I am surprised that I ams aying this but PCT missed Asif yesterday. Asif had pulled Pak out of trouble a couple of times whilst chasing 130ish scores against AFG and NZ. If Asif was played instead of Haider he might have hit a couple of lusty blows and secured his place for another 20-30 internationsla. Though him handling the Perth bounce is a big question mark.
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It's ifs and maybes with him - most of the time he fails.

To be honest, I don't think many people have much faith in his batting.
 
Asif Ali 41(13) at BBL 12

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Watched the knock live nearly took them over the line it was a superb innings.

Should be white ball captain lol 😂
 
And back to normal but interesting point by the comms on where he should play in the line-up

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MenInG said:
And back to normal but interesting point by the comms on where he should play in the line-up

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Uneducated Cricket. Has he been tried as opener?
 
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