"I have learnt a lot from my past mistakes" : Umar Amin

[Hasan123]

But his team lost.

Yes not through his innings though. On another day it would have been a match winning knock.

 

[Hamza_]

Yes not through his innings though. On another day it would have been a match winning knock.

Needs to kick on and make some further big scores in this tournament.

 

[Hasan123]

Needs to kick on and make some further big scores in this tournament.

Indeed he does. This knock today will give him the confidence

 

[Abdullah719]

Yes not through his innings though. On another day it would have been a match winning knock.

It was a great knock, would have resulted in a win if even one of the other 'batsmen' in the Punjab top-order could have played decently.

 

[Vorador]

Has he learned to play ground shots yet?

 

[Hamza_]

It was a great knock, would have resulted in a win if even one of the other 'batsmen' in the Punjab top-order could have played decently.

Too many deadwoods in the top order, Kami is a lottery, Salman Butt is too slow and less said about Captain Junior, the better.

 

[Hasan123]

It was a great knock, would have resulted in a win if even one of the other 'batsmen' in the Punjab top-order could have played decently.

Wouldn't be too upset if kami and butt kept failing though.

 

[Dubawi]

Umar Amin as [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] mentioned is very unlike Pakistani batsmen. He has got a wide range of stokeplay which is better than all national team batsmen apart from Babar. However, unlike Babar he has also got power shots in his arsenal as well. Pak management has made numerous mistakes post 2003 which has led to downfall of Pakistan cricket in general, Umar Amin is one of these.

He was touted as a better player than Azhar Ali when they both debuted but was dropped soon after his first series as Pak management were more happy for short term fixes rather than a long term goal.

Nevertheless, I have always believe in terms of batting ability he is one of the best Pakistan has got and with proper mentor-ship and better management Pakistan cricket can extract a lot of success from his career. I just pray and hope that under Mickey Arthur Pakistan cricket can establish a strong management system where talent like these do not go to waste in future.

 

[*sallu*]

While it was a very good knock, especially once he crossed 30 and while i am a big fan of his talent, i am afraid not much has changed in terms of his defeciencies against the moving ball. He kept playing lose strokes away from the body with minimal foot movement and was even lucky a few times against average domestic standard bowling. Im afraid unless he improves his game to the moving ball outside offstump we will see a repeat of what happened earlier

 

[moghul]

There are not too many classy batsmen in Pakistan domestic cricket like Umar, probably none, all he needs a good innings at international level and he will be your main batsman, along with Babar for years to come.

 

[MMHS]

Umar Amin as [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] mentioned is very unlike Pakistani batsmen. He has got a wide range of stokeplay which is better than all national team batsmen apart from Babar. However, unlike Babar he has also got power shots in his arsenal as well. Pak management has made numerous mistakes post 2003 which has led to downfall of Pakistan cricket in general, Umar Amin is one of these.

He was touted as a better player than Azhar Ali when they both debuted but was dropped soon after his first series as Pak management were more happy for short term fixes rather than a long term goal.

Nevertheless, I have always believe in terms of batting ability he is one of the best Pakistan has got and with proper mentor-ship and better management Pakistan cricket can extract a lot of success from his career. I just pray and hope that under Mickey Arthur Pakistan cricket can establish a strong management system where talent like these do not go to waste in future.

He debuted at the same time with Asad (ODI) & Azhar (Test). As expected, PAK think tank picked the 2 less flamboyant players for long term (Asad played 50+ ODI Innings, so no point bringing Amin's stats here). That August 2010 hurt Amin most among outsiders - he would have played at least 100 ODIs & many more Tests than his 3 (or 4) by now, had there been a Captain who looks at what shot a batsman can play, rather than how many balls he can block with dead bat. And, in this entire period, PAK with 11 right harders from top to bottom were bunnied by leggis or left-arm darters, even by our chucker Arafat.

 

[MMHS]

While it was a very good knock, especially once he crossed 30 and while i am a big fan of his talent, i am afraid not much has changed in terms of his defeciencies against the moving ball. He kept playing lose strokes away from the body with minimal foot movement and was even lucky a few times against average domestic standard bowling. Im afraid unless he improves his game to the moving ball outside offstump we will see a repeat of what happened earlier

Agreed, but where is he going to improve - playing Faisal Bank T20 or Patrons Cup? Only way & I repeat only way he can fulfill potential if he is picked in the squad & work with Arthur/Flower. If Arthur wasn't there, by now Babar would have been half way towards his cousin......

 

[*sallu*]

Agreed, but where is he going to improve - playing Faisal Bank T20 or Patrons Cup? Only way & I repeat only way he can fulfill potential if he is picked in the squad & work with Arthur/Flower. If Arthur wasn't there, by now Babar would have been half way towards his cousin......

Well, i guess its never that straightforward. There have been countless examples of Pakistani cricketers who have been around the team and not improved technically (shahzad, akmals, nasir jamshed, faisal iqbal, etc etc etc). Also, Amin has had access to A tours, national academy and the national team so im inclined to think if his technical flaws were fixable or that he was willing to xhange them it would have been happened by now. Again, think hes wonderfully talented and by all means deserves selection if he piles up the runs , but i will have serioua teservations even if he makes a comeback against international standard bowling.

 

[Syed1]

Well, i guess its never that straightforward. There have been countless examples of Pakistani cricketers who have been around the team and not improved technically (shahzad, akmals, nasir jamshed, faisal iqbal, etc etc etc). Also, Amin has had access to A tours, national academy and the national team so im inclined to think if his technical flaws were fixable or that he was willing to xhange them it would have been happened by now. Again, think hes wonderfully talented and by all means deserves selection if he piles up the runs , but i will have serioua teservations even if he makes a comeback against international standard bowling.

Technique is overhyped in the modern game. You don't need stellar technique to be successful in today's LOI. Heck Steve Smith showed that you don't even need textbook technique to be spectacular in test match cricket, however, Smith is an exception in the longest format rather than the norm.

There are many examples of players not having the best techniques yet still making a handy career out of it in LOI.

The pitches all around the world are flat and you hardly get any greentops in ODIs/T20s these days. This is precisely why even a hack like Sharjeel was successful-ish in England.


That being said, Amin's technique is one of the better ones in our domestics. Much better than our present openers, Kami and Shehzad. Amin also has been unsuccessful at the international level because Misbah the savior played him at numbers 6-8 and then he played him once as opener where he shined but was promptly dropped and never picked again.

Amin and Fakhar should replace duds like Shehzad and Kami.

 

[Dubawi]

Bump! Amin bumping selection doors hard!!!

 

[shah_1]

Another 100

7 SIXES

Amin>Umar Akmal

 

[Madplayer]

I will pick haris over amin 10 out of 10 times but amin cannot be neglected now as well. He has to be in the plans. He isnt mentally strong though.