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"I honestly don’t see what the big deal is [with modern bats]" : David Warner

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In Adelaide I saw a photo where Barry Richards compared his bat from 1970 to the Gray- Nicolls Kaboom that I use today.

Let’s just say; mine’s bigger, but I honestly don’t see what the big deal is.

Yes we’ve got larger bats these days but that’s because technology advances over time and I think we should be embracing this natural evolution in our game.

I don’t believe my bat gives me any extra advantage at all and if world cricket wants to create a better balance between bat and ball which they are talking about, they should be looking at other areas.

Everyone is debating about how much further someone can hit the ball these days compared to yesteryear — and of course it’s a no contest.


But look at modern day houses compared to the 1920s, look at the improvements in tennis racquets and soccer balls. The people who make bats know how to do it better now than they did 40 years ago, and I don’t see why we should go backwards.

The other point is even if you do put a restriction on bat sizes, guys would still be able to hit the ball the same distance, because batsmen in the modern game are just so strong.

Players are more physically and athletically built today and that’s just a reflection of how much more professional the game has gotten.

Cricket teams are focused on making sure their athletes are ready to take the challenge on out in the middle.

The game is just evolving and Test match cricket now is all about guys trying to score runs at a faster tempo than ever before. I don’t see how that’s a bad thing.

Basically it comes down to the art of the bat maker designing bats that are bigger but lighter at the same time. I think there are so many variables at play, people should just let it go and applaud the entertaining brand of cricket being played these days in all three forms.

I’m really excited about coming up against West Indian captain Jason Holder in this Test series because he is one of the guys I respect most in world cricket.

He’s a great character.

Jason wants to play the game in the right fashion and wants the best for his country.

From the West Indies perspective they’ve got him at the right time, because they need people like him to try and galvanise the guys together and represent their country.

I’m not going to sit here and say other West Indian players shouldn’t be taking the money in the Twenty20 format instead, because at the end of the day we all have to make a living.

It’s up to each individual to do what they want to do and you have to respect their decision.

But when you’ve got someone like Jason Holder who wants to represent his country and help his country get back to where they were back in the day, I think that’s a credit to him and is fantastic for West Indian cricket.

I take my hat off to him.

Finally, I see that cricket is looking to make inroads into the United States.

To have a Twenty20 World Cup there is fantastic and it would be a great spectacle.

I’ll be interested to see what cricket’s plans are there and what the players will get out of it.

You have to work out how you’re going to get people to the grounds most importantly. At the end of the day getting more people to watch and play the game is what it’s all about.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...oping-technology/story-fni2fnmo-1227638284658
 
He is right in the sense that there is no need to look back however this does remind me of the Dennis Lillee incident with the aluminum bat. Yes it was an advancement but it was not a correct one, that's what the sizes of today's bats remind me of.
 
ICC allows it, so there is no problem. Cricket is not producing great bowlers, so this isn't batsmen fault.
 
This is the batting equivalent of ball tampering, other than the fact that it's somehow perfectly legal. About time ICC looks into the issue of the bat size or gives relaxations on ball tampering. Playing on the pitches Australia has been in the past 2 years or so, no wonder Warner doesn't see what the big deal is.
 
This is the batting equivalent of ball tampering, other than the fact that it's somehow perfectly legal. About time ICC looks into the issue of the bat size or gives relaxations on ball tampering. Playing on the pitches Australia has been in the past 2 years or so, no wonder Warner doesn't see what the big deal is.

Naw just making sure pitches aren't flat that is more than enough to trouble these big Bat lovers.
 
On the analogy with Tennis racquets- Both players now have better Tennis racquets. But in cricket, the bowlers ball is still the same. The cricket ball of nowadays does not swing more, note does it spin more. It does now what it did earlier.
 
Players in the past selected bats according to weight, Richards had every opportunity to select a bigger bat but he opted for one with a weight he felt comfortable with. Warner feels comfortable with a heavier bat.

Also Richards had his bat compressed a lot more to help it last a lot longer whereas Warner's bats are produced differently and he will use ten times as many bats as Richards.


Is it a real surprise to anyone that over the last 30-40 years things have improved.
 
Bats are not the problem but pitches are. For example see Adelaide pitch and compare to Hobart ,Perth and Brisbane. All the batsman were using same bat but night test match provided the best contest
 
David Warner to use a heavier bat to tackle Ravichandran Ashwin and co.

Sydney, Jan 10 (PTI) David Warner has started his preparations for the tour of India and the in-form Australian batsman has resorted to using a heavier bat to counter the conditions in the sub-continent. Warner will lower the sweet spot of his bat and have a heavier blade to tackle the lower bounce and sharp turn generated by the Indian spinners led by Ravichandran Ashwin, reported by the ‘Sydney Morning Herald’. The daily also reported that the Australian captain Steve Smith will use the same bat he uses in Australia. Warner’s Gray-Nicolls Kaboom bat weighs 1.23 kilogrammes in Australia but the one he plans to use in India will weigh around 1.28 kilogrammes.

His form holds key to Australia’s chances in India, where they were blanked 0-4 in their previous outing in 2013. Warner, too, would like to do better than what he managed in India four years ago, when he averaged 24.37 in four Tests. The southpaw has years of experience of playing in India, be it in Australia or in the Indian Premier League.

Warner has been in sublime form of late, having scored two hundred in the recently concluded three-Test series against Pakistan. Prior to that, he had smashed back-to-back ODI hundreds against New Zealand.

Warner also accepted that Australia will have “no excuses” but to bat well, pick up 20 wickets and adapt to the conditions if they desire to beat an in-form Indian team in their own backyard in the upcoming Test series, says vice-captain, David Warner. The Australians may be in high spirits having won last three Tests against Pakistan to win three-match series 3-0 but will head to India next month having lost nine consecutive Tests in Asia and with just one series win there since the late 1960s. But it would be easier said than done as the Virat Kohli-led Indian team is unbeaten in their past 18 Tests at home and recently completed a 4-0 series win over England, including two victories by an innings.

http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/...t-to-tackle-ravichandran-ashwin-and-co-565478
 
That'll only be worse. On those spinning tracks you need lighter bats

Really? I remember Tendulkar used to have a really heavy bat, so did the likes of De Silva if memory serves me correct. It was the artistic timers like Azharuddin that used a light bat. Not sure whether a heavy bat will help Warner or not, but it's intriguing nonetheless.
 
That'll only be worse. On those spinning tracks you need lighter bats

When he said "heavier" it will be no more than 2.8 like he said. That is considered not heavy even for a club cricketer. These guys are strong even 3lbs bat would feel like a feather for them.
 
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When he said "heavier" it will be no more than 2.8 like he said. That is considered not heavy even for a club cricketer. These guys are strong even 3lbs bat would feel like a feather for them.

A bat at just over 2lb 12oz like the one he'll be using is probably considered fairly heavy for a bat by most club cricketers I'd have thought.
 
Really? I remember Tendulkar used to have a really heavy bat, so did the likes of De Silva if memory serves me correct. It was the artistic timers like Azharuddin that used a light bat. Not sure whether a heavy bat will help Warner or not, but it's intriguing nonetheless.

I would have thought a lighter bat is better for playing spin too, because it's easier to be wristy. Subcontinent players are renowned for using the wrists because they come up all the way playing like that, whereas I don't think a hard hitting batsman like Warner has subtlety like that in his natural game.
 
When other players/teams cant score

they like to blame it on something
 
A bat at just over 2lb 12oz like the one he'll be using is probably considered fairly heavy for a bat by most club cricketers I'd have thought.

When you do the conversion to pounds and read the article, it clearly says he'll be using a 2.8 lbs pounds and his old bat was 2.6lbs. 2.6lbs for that gigantic roided bat is amazing. Even a weak club cricketer will take huge advantage of it. ICC seriously need to set limitation on the bat size. You think they'll let tennis player use a racquet with thicker strings ?
 
I would have thought a lighter bat is better for playing spin too, because it's easier to be wristy. Subcontinent players are renowned for using the wrists because they come up all the way playing like that, whereas I don't think a hard hitting batsman like Warner has subtlety like that in his natural game.

Cricketers are much stronger than you think and that is why they can swing the bat much quicker and harder. Do the conversion, his newer bat is only 2.8lbs.
 
On the analogy with Tennis racquets- Both players now have better Tennis racquets. But in cricket, the bowlers ball is still the same. The cricket ball of nowadays does not swing more, note does it spin more. It does now what it did earlier.

actually in modern days the bowling has become harder

the seams hold up and the ball keeps it shape so there isnt any off chance of crazy movement due to an opened up seam or sth. basically behavior of the ball is more predictable
 
He can use whatever he wants.

Ashwin will embarass him

His only hope is that the indian pacers bowl for first 15 overs and he can make a 40 odd
 
He can use whatever he wants.

Ashwin will embarass him

His only hope is that the indian pacers bowl for first 15 overs and he can make a 40 odd

If the pacers bowl for 15 overs he will make much more than a 40 odd
 
When you do the conversion to pounds and read the article, it clearly says he'll be using a 2.8 lbs pounds and his old bat was 2.6lbs. 2.6lbs for that gigantic roided bat is amazing. Even a weak club cricketer will take huge advantage of it. ICC seriously need to set limitation on the bat size. You think they'll let tennis player use a racquet with thicker strings ?

2.8 lbs does not equal 2lb 8oz, it's just over 2lb 12oz which is pretty heavy.
 
During the last tour he didn't bat enough to get to Ashwin & Jadeja during most innings. Kumar kept getting him out.

He's a better player than he was than, but still struggles outside of his comfort zone. Can see him scoring of the new ball but struggling vs the older ball and the spinners.
 
LOL what ? Even then it won't feel that heavy for batsmen, especially for hard hitters.

Would still be considered a fairly heavy bat for a club cricketer.

Yeah, 2lbs 12 is heavier than the vast majority of bats. I bought a new bat last summer and it was a real pain in the neck trying to find one that didn't feel like a tooth pick, had to settle for one that is around 2lbs and 12 or 13 oz and even that feels a bit lighter than I wanted. I guess not everyone can be a pehlwan like me :rahat

Oh and as always, when it comes to the talk of cricket bats:

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Well it didnt work today! Big bat or not, a good bowler will beat you at your game and thats where the true beauty of the game lies
 
Looked out of sorts today because Pakistan pitched it up.
 
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