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"I think Ahmed Shehzad has more talent than Sachin Tendulkar ever had" : Abdul Razzaq

Tendulkar is the greatest batsman of the last 25 years but as an overall package I'd have Imran an ATG bowler a good batsman and a great captain who won us a WC and made us a dominant team and also created a fast bowling legacy in the Pakistan that made us different from other SC countries and unearthed two other ATGS in Wasim and Waqar. Also bowlers like Shoaib Zahid all inspired by IK. Without IK there is no Pakistan fast bowling legacy. But obviously Indians will hold a different view to me

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Adil_94 said:
Tendulkar is the greatest batsman of the last 25 years but as an overall package I'd have Imran an ATG bowler a good batsman and a great captain who won us a WC and made us a dominant team and also created a fast bowling legacy in the Pakistan that made us different from other SC countries and unearthed two other ATGS in Wasim and Waqar. Also bowlers like Shoaib Zahid all inspired by IK. Without IK there is no Pakistan fast bowling legacy. But obviously Indians will hold a different view to me

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I always find it strange when kapil dev is compared to ik

Kapil dev and razzaq is more accurate
 
It's an opinon, deal with it.

Tendulkar was the greatest Indian flat track bully. Thats it. His last 2 years were an utter embarrassment. He also could not handle any pressure and choked far too often when the pressure got too much.
 
Re: "I think Ahmed Shehzad has more talent than Sachin Tendulkar ever had": Abdul Raz

chacha kashmiri said:
I always find it strange when kapil dev is compared to ik

Kapil dev and razzaq is more accurate
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I wouldn't go that far Kapil was a great all rounder not a great bowler or a great batsman but he was very good at both disciplines which makes him great. Kapil was unlucky he played in an era with the likes of Botham and IK if he was in any other era, he'd have been the best All rounder in the world. He also captained India to a WC win despite being a mediocre captain overall Razzaq had the potential to be an ODI ATG all rounder but he never fulfilled this. But Kapil is comfortably ahead of Razzaq by some distance he produced countless match winning spells for his country Despite having relatively little support at the other end.

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Adil_94 said:
I wouldn't go that far Kapil was a great all rounder not a great bowler or a great batsman but he was very good at both disciplines which makes him great. Kapil was unlucky he played in an era with the likes of Botham and IK if he was in any other era, he'd have been the best All rounder in the world. He also captained India to a WC win despite being a mediocre captain overall Razzaq had the potential to be an ODI ATG all rounder but he never fulfilled this. But Kapil is comfortably ahead of Razzaq by some distance he produced countless match winning spells for his country Despite having relatively little support at the other end.

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If you look at his stats, he was very ordinary with both bat and ball, especially in odis
His batting average and bowling averages in odis are very similar to afridis
 
Re: "I think Ahmed Shehzad has more talent than Sachin Tendulkar ever had": Abdul Raz

chacha kashmiri said:
If you look at his stats, he was very ordinary with both bat and ball, especially in odis
His batting average and bowling averages in odis are very similar to afridis
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There's more to him than stats he has won India test matches single handedly.Indias pace attack in the 80s was minnow esque Kapil was the only quality pacer they had so he was used as a workhorse and had to bowl a huge amount of overs like a spinner. It's a testament to his fitness that he played for that long. he was more an attritional bowler who could produce magical spells. A 29 bowling avg after 131 tests is very good. as a batsman he was very attacking and played some great knocks though he did underachieve with the bat.

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Razzaq is clearly trying to get work as a pundit now by being outrageous once the Indian press here of this they will make a huge song and dance about it. And Razzaq will get publicity and might even get called Over to various Indian TV channels to explain his words, then backtrack like Akhtar did.

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"I think Ahmed Shehzad has more talent than Sachin Tendulkar ever had": Abdul Razzaq

Indian batsmen, bowlers and their performances are extremely exaggerated and over hyped because BCCI has too much power. Commentators always praise Indian players just to get commentating contracts. Indian teams recent record speaks for itself not to mention their overall record. Pakistan has defeated India quite a bit more and that's not an opinion that's a fact. Pak has won 65% of the time give or take a few. When I first checked & compared the ODI records for both teams in 2000, Pak had won 70% of all Indo-Pak matches and that pretty much speaks for itself. Even now if you compare ODIs played between the two nation, Pakistan comes on top by some distance!!!


Pakistan has produced better bowlers than any other country in the history of the cricket!!!
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Inswinging Yorka said:
Indian batsmen, bowlers and their performances are extremely exaggerated and over hyped because BCCI has too much power. Commentators always praise Indian players just to get commentating contracts. Indian teams recent record speaks for itself not to mention their overall record. Pakistan has defeated India quite a bit more and that's not an opinion that's a fact. Pak has won 65% of the time give or take a few. When I first checked & compared the ODI records for both teams in 2000, Pak had won 70% of all Indo-Pak matches and that pretty much speaks for itself. Even now if you compare ODIs played between the two nation, Pakistan comes on top by some distance!!!


Pakistan has produced better bowlers than any other country in the history of the cricket!!!
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I don't think it has anything to do with this thread mate :).
 
Oh man Razak just missed IPL contract.
Razak's Holi gift to Indian fans
:yk
 
Poor stuff from Razzak. Now fans from within and outside Pakistan will make fun of Shehzad everytime he performs. Puts in a lot of pressure onto the Shehzad's shoulder.
 
Mamoon said:
The amount of hype we give to our players, how would we have reacted if Tendulkar actually was a Pakistani?

The fact that 22 years on and our so called experts still can't put two sentences together without bringing in Imran Khan makes me wonder how they'd cope with a superhuman record breaking machine like Tendulkar.
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"Superhuman record breaking machine" now who is exaggerating
 
Lol , even users like sir-afridi will struggle to make statements as daft as this one
 
freelance_cricketer said:
The thing here is, Shehzad is a very decent youngster who's just started to do well and doesn't deserve to be bashed just because Razzaq has no idea what he's talking about. The marvelous player that Tendulkar was, honestly speaking even Indians won't mind if a Pakistani kid turns out to be like him cricket and manners wise. I for one would be delighted. :)
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Ya I agree Shehzad has a lot of talent he has all the opportunity to emulate tendulkar
 
I dont agree with his statement but he's not necessarily wrong, however, no Pakistani player can match the greatness Sachin or Imran had solely because of their sheer determination and hard work, no one.

Wasim and Waqar were more talented bowlers than Imran but could never match his willpower and focus.

Same goes with Sachin, you can hate these players for whatever reason but any smart man would learn alot from how players like IK and Sachin, how they blocked everything in their lives to focus on the game they love and breathe it till they retire.
 
Shehzad is a boring batsman , all his shots are so unattractive. I wonder how someone who takes 100 balls to score 60 runs in Odis in todays era gets compared to Tendulkar ? The guy has hardly played any Test cricket either , especially in overseas conditions. Comparison between Umar Akmal and Tendulkar would have been more apt.
 
eradicator said:
Shehzad is a boring batsman , all his shots are so unattractive. I wonder how someone who takes 100 balls to score 60 runs in Odis in todays era gets compared to Tendulkar ? The guy has hardly played any Test cricket either , especially in overseas conditions. Comparison between Umar Akmal and Tendulkar would have been more apt.
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This is why I feel sorry for Shahzad :))

Poor guy will get slaughtered for doing nothing wrong all sachinistas will take their anger out on him now.
 
I know i will get slaughtered for saying this but there's no batsman in the world who plays more attractive textbook shots than Shahzad
 
Now Indians will try to take digs and rip apart Shahzad at every opportunity possible , like a dismissal here and there and Indians will come all blazing there guns , all this for no fault of Shhezad though.
 
Of course, he does. The real questions is - does he have more talent than Umar Akmal?
 
hafeezrocks said:
Now Indians will try to take digs and rip apart Shahzad at every opportunity possible , like a dismissal here and there and Indians will come all blazing there guns , all this for no fault of Shhezad though.
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Exactly. Its not like he claimed this.
 
Ridiculous to say the least.

Our analysts and ex-players are clueless about the game
 
Disagree with the comment but it isn't as ridiculous as people are making it out to be especially if you remember that A Razzaq got Tendulkar out many times
 
cricketAXEpert said:
"Superhuman record breaking machine" now who is exaggerating
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Actually it doesn't do justice to the feats of Tendulkar. You are right, there are no words to describe him. I am personally not a fan, but I have enough sense to acknowledge his greatness.
 
I have tried to access a few Indian news channels because I want to see their reaction on this matter.:yk
 
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Mamoon said:
Tendulkar has too many feats.

In the late 90's, he was a machine. Far greater than what people like Wasim has achieved and look how much we revere them.
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as you are talking about peaks,wasim averaged 19.xx at a strike rate of 43 from 1990-1998 for 50 tests with a test Man of match award every 4th match, by far the best frequency over a span of 50 tests ,add to this unheard display(literally) of fast bowling artistry. Similar for ODIs. Actually I want to be enlightened (by you) what is far greater than this in cricket?
 
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He must have been hurt after wasim bhai gave him a mouthful when razzaq dropped sachin's catch in 2003 wc.

I hope this thread is never closed. Epic bumps coming up in the future. ��
 
90MPH said:
It's an opinon, deal with it.

Tendulkar was the greatest Indian flat track bully. Thats it. His last 2 years were an utter embarrassment. He also could not handle any pressure and choked far too often when the pressure got too much.
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Now I've heard it all.

If Tendulkar was FTB , what does that make Pakistani legends who never even averaged 40 against any team whatsoever?

Do you think before you type?
 
90MPH said:
It's an opinon, deal with it.

Tendulkar was the greatest Indian flat track bully. Thats it. His last 2 years were an utter embarrassment. He also could not handle any pressure and choked far too often when the pressure got too much.
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Disappointed that you wrote this.

Its not true at all.

You know it.

If Sachin is a flat track bully, then I don't know who is a proper batsman?
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Now I've heard it all.

If Tendulkar was FTB , what does that make Pakistani legends who never even averaged 40 against any team whatsoever?

Do you think before you type?
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sensible-indian-fan said:
Disappointed that you wrote this.

Its not true at all.

You know it.

If Sachin is a flat track bully, then I don't know who is a proper batsman?
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And he thinks Inzamam wasn't a flat track bully who couldn't buy a run in South Africa and Australia :)))
 
Actually whenever any one of our youngsters start performing, people start comparing them with great players. That adds extra pressure on them. And each of their innings, is then analysed by comparing that great player. So youngsters every performance looks ugly whenever its not upto that mark. (even though its good by normal standards).

Everyone criticised him that that player is doing wonders and he is not doing like that (see case of Umar Akmal labelled as Kohli), adds extra pressure on him and he start failing.

Ahmed shehzad is a talented player. He may not be able to break Sachin's record but he will do wonders in coming days, I am sure.
 
Statistically Abdur Razzaq is right, Ahmed has 5 centuries while Sachin had none after 45 matches. :D
 
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chacha kashmiri said:
If you look at his stats, he was very ordinary with both bat and ball, especially in odis
His batting average and bowling averages in odis are very similar to afridis
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Kapil was ranked the no.1 ODI all rounder for 10 years striaght.





amax said:
as you are talking about peaks,wasim averaged 19.xx at a strike rate of 43 from 1990-1998 for 50 tests with a test Man of match award every 4th match, by far the best frequency over a span of 50 tests ,add to this unheard display(literally) of fast bowling artistry. Similar for ODIs. Actually I want to be enlightened (by you) what is far greater than this in cricket?
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Every great batsman in last 25 odd years have been compared to 1 batsman.Someone who has played across 4 decades and scored runs everywhere.Owns most of the major batting records and has an unprecedented 100 100s.And i can go on and on on.

Having said that Wasim is one of the greatest bowlers of all times.




Mamoon said:
And he thinks Inzamam wasn't a flat track bully who couldn't buy a run in South Africa and Australia :)))
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Inzy is Pakistani SRT Indian.
 
Joke of a thread hopefully Sachinist will not give any credit to Razzaq and other trolls by falling into the trap.

p.s Welcome back mamoon.
 
Mamoon said:
Pity. You wonder how much these players know about the game they played for over a decade or is it pure bias?

Even bias can't/shouldn't drop to this abhorrent level.
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:))

Razzler is probably basing it on the fact that he always used to get Sachin out somehow, and probably hasn't been able to get Shehzad out.

In his simple way of thinking and in his heart of hearts, Shehzad is then a better batsman.
 
Saqs said:
:))

Razzler is probably basing it on the fact that he always used to get Sachin out somehow, and probably hasn't been able to get Shehzad out.

In his simple way of thinking and in his heart of hearts, Shehzad is then a better batsman.
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I reckon he is still recovering from Tahir's googly.
 
Also, there might be a book release around the corner.

I think it's a bulletproof marketing ploy.

I will do it when I release my first film screenplay. Just have a dig at Sachin in there. Worldwide publicity.
 
Why is everyone making all the hub-bub? Shehzad is way more talented than Tendulkar :afridi
 
This is amongst the top foolish comments by an expert.

the only batsmen and i mean the only batsmen that can reach sachin ( and that is a monstrous if) is kohli and shezad cant even be compared to that guy yet. He has just started so right now comparing him to legends is foolish just like we did with maqsood-inzi.
 
Looks like he is purposely trolling to get footage.
He knows his cricket career is finished so he is now finding ways to sit around Yousuf & Akhtar in news channel.

I have hardly seen a senior player who doesn't want to play practice or domestic match to earn a place in the team.
 
amax said:
as you are talking about peaks,wasim averaged 19.xx at a strike rate of 43 from 1990-1998 for 50 tests with a test Man of match award every 4th match, by far the best frequency over a span of 50 tests ,add to this unheard display(literally) of fast bowling artistry. Similar for ODIs. Actually I want to be enlightened (by you) what is far greater than this in cricket?
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Tendulkar has a shout of having the longest peak ever, if you look purely at numbers.

Between 1992-2004, he averaged 60.21 in 107 tests. ( an odd bad year or two in between like 2003 ) I think any batsman who retires having played 100+ tests averaging 60+ will be given automatic status of the greatest batsman ever in the modern era. Then he peaked again between 2007-2011 when he averaged 59 in 51 tests. You will find very few cricketers in history, if any, who have peaked twice in their careers.

In ODI's, his numbers get even more unreal.

I started respecting Ahmed Shehzad as a batsman since he scored an ODI ton against a full strength SA side in SA to win a series for Pakistan, but Razzaq's statement is over the top.
 
How did I miss this gem :))


eradicator said:
Shehzad is a boring batsman , all his shots are so unattractive. I wonder how someone who takes 100 balls to score 60 runs in Odis in todays era gets compared to Tendulkar ? The guy has hardly played any Test cricket either , especially in overseas conditions. Comparison between Umar Akmal and Tendulkar would have been more apt.
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Aussie commies already compared the two.
 
Scrolln said:
Tendulkar has a shout of having the longest peak ever, if you look purely at numbers.

Between 1992-2004, he averaged 60.21 in 107 tests. ( an odd bad year or two in between like 2003 ) I think any batsman who retires having played 100+ tests averaging 60+ will be given automatic status of the greatest batsman ever in the modern era. Then he peaked again between 2007-2011 when he averaged 59 in 51 tests. You will find very few cricketers in history, if any, who have peaked twice in their careers.

In ODI's, his numbers get even more unreal.

I started respecting Ahmed Shehzad as a batsman since he scored an ODI ton against a full strength SA side in SA to win a series for Pakistan, but Razzaq's statement is over the top.
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I find Ponting's peak in the noughties the most devastating of the modern era.
 
Scrolln said:
Tendulkar has a shout of having the longest peak ever, if you look purely at numbers.

Between 1992-2004, he averaged 60.21 in 107 tests. ( an odd bad year or two in between like 2003 ) I think any batsman who retires having played 100+ tests averaging 60+ will be given automatic status of the greatest batsman ever in the modern era. Then he peaked again between 2007-2011 when he averaged 59 in 51 tests. You will find very few cricketers in history, if any, who have peaked twice in their careers.

In ODI's, his numbers get even more unreal.

I started respecting Ahmed Shehzad as a batsman since he scored an ODI ton against a full strength SA side in SA to win a series for Pakistan, but Razzaq's statement is over the top.
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That is staggering.

Sachin is just awe inspiring.

No words can describe him.
 
How does Razzaq come up with these statements? We should not burden Ahmed with these kind of expectations.
 
Scrolln said:
Same here, in terms of pure impact, only rivaled by the first 5-6 years of Viv Richard's test career.
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sensible-indian-fan said:
That's the greatest peak anyone can have excluding Bradman.
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Tendulkar post 2001/2002 where his tennis elbow injuries etc took its toll has never been the Tendulkar who shook the world irrespective of what he achieved or how many runs he scored.

He was simply phenomenal in the 90's and anyone who thinks he was not aggressive and was simply an accumulator clearly started watching in the last 10 years only.

He was like the old Tendulkar for a brief period in 2003/2004 but overall, no.
 
Ahmad Shehzad has got big strike rotating problems against spinners.
Apart from that he is good.
 
eradicator said:
Shehzad is a boring batsman , all his shots are so unattractive. I wonder how someone who takes 100 balls to score 60 runs in Odis in todays era gets compared to Tendulkar ? The guy has hardly played any Test cricket either , especially in overseas conditions. Comparison between Umar Akmal and Tendulkar would have been more apt.
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:hamster:
 
Mamoon said:
Tendulkar post 2001/2002 where his tennis elbow injuries etc took its toll has never been the Tendulkar who shook the world irrespective of what he achieved or how many runs he scored.

He was simply phenomenal in the 90's and anyone who thinks he was not aggressive and was simply an accumulator clearly started watching in the last 10 years only.

He was like the old Tendulkar for a brief period in 2003/2004 but overall, no.
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Fully agree.

The thing that I find amazing about him was the way he totally changed his game to play for so long.

If he tried to remain the same old Sachin, his career might have ended by 2005 and people would have remembered as a totally aggressive batsman.

His mental efforts are crazy too.

Like cutting off cover drive to score 241 in Aus.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Fully agree.

The thing that I find amazing about him was the way he totally changed his game to play for so long.

If he tried to remain the same old Sachin, his career might have ended by 2005 and people would have remembered as a totally aggressive batsman.

His mental efforts are crazy too.

Like cutting off cover drive to score 241 in Aus.
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Agreed. He evolved as a batsman far better than others which made him jump from being a great to an ATG.

Someone like Sehwag couldn't adapt when he could no longer dominate attacks.
 
Mamoon said:
Agreed. He evolved as a batsman far better than others which made him jump from being a great to an ATG.

Someone like Sehwag couldn't adapt when he could no longer dominate attacks.
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To be honest, if Sachin had retired in 2000, he would still have been reg as an ATG.

There is also a chance his hype might have been higher in some circles considering his average (nearly 60 odd), SR in one of the biggest bowling eras.

Unfortunately, many misinterpret this evolution of his as a weakness. I was discussing the same issue with my friend the last month.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
To be honest, if Sachin had retired in 2000, he would still have been reg as an ATG.

There is also a chance his hype might have been higher in some circles considering his average (nearly 60 odd), SR in one of the biggest bowling eras.

Unfortunately, many misinterpret this evolution of his as a weakness. I was discussing the same issue with my friend the last month.
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I agree on principal. Tendulkar was already an ATG but he wouldn't have been as great as he is now without evolving so successfully.
 
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