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So [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] imam should play for two years to be judged properly. We have judged him he is good for nothing .
20 games is a decent enough sample size, provided you just don't see the talent there at all. You do the same with Faheem Ashraf when you call him a nothing cricketer based on a handful of games, but yet you support Imam? Sorry, but Imam can be replaced. Whether the replacement will be good enough we don't know, but Abid Ali has toiled hard in domestic cricket for years and has scored three centuries against NZ A and England Lions recently. He might not make us a better team, but he hasn't been tried yet and he could have been a gamble. The thing with Imam is that he is too inexperienced even at FC level, and we expect him to boss international level bowling attacks. That's just not going to happen. He doesn't have the talent of Babar and neither does he have the right mindset, evident by his outburst on Cricinfo where he threw his toys out of the pram for being criticized as Inzi's nephew. This is a nepotistic selection, whether you would like to admit it or not.Instead of calling me a hypocrite in every post, please try to understand my point. Imam has played what, 20 games only for Pakistan so far? And out of these 20 games, probably less than half of these games have been against top flight opposition. Yes he has not played a single notable innings against any of these teams yet, but it is far too early to criticise him especially when we are not loaded with great batting talent.
After a couple of years and with a decent sample size, if he continues to fail against the top teams, I will be the first one to criticise him. However, people have simply been too quick to criticise because of the Inzamam factor.
Now let me clarify my stance on Hafeez. He is not a great batsman by any means, but ever since he has become a regular in 2010 after his formative years, he has mostly made the team on merit. For all his inconsistencies, he is usually among the top performers. In fact, prior to this series, he has averaged 50 at a SR of 60 in UAE as an opener with tons against England, Australia and New Zealand. Are you telling me that someone like him does not make a mediocre team like Pakistan on merit?
Of all the openers we have tried in the last decade, he has been better than all minus Fakhar. The problem is that people judge his batting by comparing him to the players in other teams, and yes he was never close to the league of the top batsmen, but they are not his competition; his competition is (or was) the likes of Shehzad, Farhat, Masood, Jamshed, Manzoor, Butt, Awais Zia, Rafatullah etc. and he has been better than all of them.
It is a myth that he did not make the team purely on batting merit. He was simply an easy scapegoat because people expected him to develop into a top quality batsman after playing for so many years. However, he was never of that caliber but that did not had to do with his selection because he was still better than most of his competitors, if not all.
I don’t know why people are saying to drop imam. I know he had a bad series but he’s one of the best openers in Asia. Currently I would rate Rohit > Imam > Shikar > Fakhar > Tamim. I am sure he will light up the stadium on fire in the SA tour.
Time running out for Imam.
The lad is struggling, his confidence is low and at the moment he looks all at sea.
The best thing would have been to rest him/drop him, instead of feeding him to the likes of Steyn and Rabada.
The lad is struggling, his confidence is low and at the moment he looks all at sea.
The best thing would have been to rest him/drop him, instead of feeding him to the likes of Steyn and Rabada.
The lad is struggling, his confidence is low and at the moment he looks all at sea.
The best thing would have been to rest him/drop him, instead of feeding him to the likes of Steyn and Rabada.
what is the difference between Bhatija and Bhanja?You will always be remembered as the undeserving Bhatija who was selected by his chacha.
Just like Faisal Iqbal is always remembered as bhanja.
what is the difference between Bhatija and Bhanja?
what is the difference between Bhatija and Bhanja?
A few apologies may be in order now for Imam.
To all the blood boilers, what is up?
We jump to conclusions in no time. The lad has been impressive overall since his debut, give him some time.
It’s just that we Pakistani fans are spoilt given the high batting standards and expectations we have had over the last 15 years, as we are used to such accomplished Pakistani openers like Hafeez who scored ton after double ton after triple ton, all around the world... and we expect any new Imam and Fakhar to come and do the same from day 1, but you have to understand that batsmen like Bradman, Hafeez or Sobers are not born every day.
Imam plays his best when the team is under pressure. That is a hallmark of a great player. All of his best innings have come under immense pressure and that tells you how mentally strong this guy is. Add to the fact that he is continuously fighting the "Inzamam baggage", he is top drawer. One of the rare confident breeds that Pakistan has produced. He may not be the most technically gifted player out there but he makes up for it in attitude.
His 70+ against Ireland when Pakistan were 14/3 chasing 160 odd was a gem of a knock. People will underrate his knock by saying that it only came against Ireland but will conveniently forget that "veterans" Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq fell or single digits in the 2nd innings and didn't help Pakistan at all in winning the match. What a shameful defeat that would've been to Test debutants had Imam not held his fort.
Similarly, 80+ against Afghanistan and Bangladesh in the Asia Cup were great innings too under pressure. He is one of the few who I have seen in Pakistan colors who enjoys the challenge of chasing and by his performances he has proved that he is a big player in the 2nd innings.
Sure he's not your Saeed Anwar but he doesn't need to be. At this point, his competition is Masood, Fakhar, Abid, Sami, Shehzad and he's doing very well. Needs to be persisted with and given a long rope. His Inzamam baggage will continue to haunt him no matter what he does so its imperative that he blocks out all the brouhaha about it. He can't choose his relatives.
The challenge for Imam is to now transfer his excellent 2nd innings efforts into 1st innings efforts. I remember when he was making his debut, I wrote on the Ireland Pakistan Test match thread that I would relieve Sarfraz of the captaincy and give it to Imam instantly. I still maintain that thought because he's the only one who reads match situations and has a good match awareness. It would be a gamble but worth taking. People here would laugh their heads off at the idea but Imam is mentally very tough and would handle captaincy well. A couple of centuries in tough conditions would solidify my thought of him being the captain.
So true.
Hafeez on this track would have probably scored a century in both innings![]()
The problem with this high praise and captaincy shouts is that Imam has four FC centuries after 43 matches, including four Tests on the flattest wickets in the world in the UAE. That suggests he has an issue in concentrating for long periods. Today he plays beautifully for 57 but when the team needed him to go on and make a hundred he gets out.
It’s just that we Pakistani fans are spoilt given the high batting standards and expectations we have had over the last 15 years, as we are used to such accomplished Pakistani openers like Hafeez who scored ton after double ton after triple ton, all around the world... and we expect any new Imam and Fakhar to come and do the same from day 1, but you have to understand that batsmen like Bradman, Hafeez or Sobers are not born every day.
Bhanja = Mom's side
Bhatija = Dad's side
Brother's son is bhatija. Sister's son is bhanja.
This cycle will keep repeating, he will score a 50 then go missing for the next 3-4 innings.
PP posters will praise him for the 50 but then throw alot of dirt on his name for the innings he doesn’t perform.
The problem with this high praise and captaincy shouts is that Imam has four FC centuries after 43 matches, including four Tests on the flattest wickets in the world in the UAE. That suggests he has an issue in concentrating for long periods. Today he plays beautifully for 57 but when the team needed him to go on and make a hundred he gets out.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imam-ul-Haq's last 9 Test innings:<br><br>8<br>6<br>0<br>57<br>9<br>22<br>9<br>6<br>27<br>Total runs: 144<br>Average: 16<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1081490268925382656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I think he is getting way too much hate. Yes he's failing but I can understand his selection, the guy was superb in his under 19 days and he's shown he's capable of playing some good innings under pressure. People are just milking the fact he's Inzi's nephew.
I think he is getting way too much hate. Yes he's failing but I can understand his selection, the guy was superb in his under 19 days and he's shown he's capable of playing some good innings under pressure. People are just milking the fact he's Inzi's nephew.
You are genius. I think they have domestic cricket for formality only. U19 cricket is the real deal.
At this rate, uncle might deny to recognise nephew
Never expected something from Imam for his domestic stats, but thought he might get better in Test as his game suits the format; but uncle availed him ODI ticket as well.
You must be having a laugh?He does. He is mentally stronger than most of the players who have been selected on “merit”, so I am happy to see more of him.
He does. He is mentally stronger than most of the players who have been selected on “merit”, so I am happy to see more of him.
You must be having a laugh?
That was the crappiest 2 hour of batting i have seen in my life. And trust you me i have seen a lot of cricket.
I would actually rate Imam's innings today (43 from 105 balls) higher than Babar's (49 from 55 balls) and Sarfaraz's (50 from 40 balls).
A proper Test cricket batsman can stay at the wicket for long periods of time, wearing down the opposition bowling, making it easier for the other batsmen in his team, and giving his bowlers longer periods of rest.
The attacking cricket that Babar and Sarfaraz played was quite unsuitable for the circumstances, given that the game is probably going to get over in 3 or at most days. It felt like they had no confidence that they could survive for a long period of time at the crease.
You must be having a laugh?
That was the crappiest 2 hour of batting i have seen in my life. And trust you me i have seen a lot of cricket.
You must be having a laugh?
That was the crappiest 2 hour of batting i have seen in my life. And trust you me i have seen a lot of cricket.
He does. He is mentally stronger than most of the players who have been selected on “merit”, so I am happy to see more of him.