"I wouldn't have picked Usman Khawaja" : Mohsin Khan

[Saj]

I remember speaking with Mohsin about Khawaja when he was chief selector.

The discussion was a lengthy one and one that addressed Usman's pros and cons as a batsman.

In fact at the time I suggested to Mohsin to cheekily try and get Usman to play for Pakistan ahead of Australia.

However Mohsin was not convinced and came up with a number of theories on why he felt Usman wasn't a convincing batsman and one who would have made it into the Pakistan Test team.

Hypothetical scenario of course now, but do you think that Usman would have/is good enough to have got into the Pakistan Test team?

 

[Azzurri]

he is good enough to replace azhar/shafiq ..

 

[srh]

On merit he probably would not have made into the Pakistan test team.

 

[Sultan Yusuf]

With our embarrassment of failures in the batting department, I don't know how we couldn't utilise someone like Usman Khawaja.

In answer to the question, the answer is OF COURSE he's good enough. Maybe not in the days of Inzi, Younis and Yousuf, but in the absence of them, he'd probably be 1st on the team sheet.

 

[PakistanKnight]

With the kind of batsmen we are getting right now,I will happily get him in.

 

[HamzaSaeen]

Well he is better than Hafeez who is apparently our test opener
So I'd say yes he is good enough.

 

[PakistanKnight]

he is good enough to replace azhar/shafiq ..

Both have proven themselves in domestic cricket and intl. cricket. Stop blind hate!!!

 

[srh]

he is good enough to replace azhar/shafiq ..

what are you smoking? Usman Khawaja is a middle order batsman and Pakistan's middle order is so loaded that even Umar Akmal cannot get in. How can Usman Khawaja get in and why he is better than Umar Akmal?

 

[Alamgeer]

Usman is not better than umar but obviously better than azhar and shafiq. Why cant umar get in test side is another story.

 

[Sultan Yusuf]

He can definitely be in ahead of Misbah or Hafeez

 

[Saj]

I'd have had him in the team ahead of Imran Farhat

 

[Anfield]

I'd have had him in the team ahead of Imran Farhat

But Imran Farhat shouldn't be in the in the first place.

 

[srh]

Usman is not better than umar but obviously better than azhar and shafiq. Why cant umar get in test side is another story.

 

[Madplayer]

In test team, NO!
He bats in the middle order but He isn't better than azhar, shafiq, younis or misbah in tests.

 

[Anfield]

How's Usman better than the players who had have scored centuries in Tests?

 

[DW44]

he is good enough to replace azhar/shafiq ..

Not good enough to replace either in the test side. Then there's Umar Akmal, a better batsman than both Shafiq and Azhar Ali, waiting to get back into the team so I don't see how Khwaja makes it to the Pakistani test side on merit.

 

[soso_killer]

He is good enough to play for Pakistan, but not at the expense of Shafiq i dont agree with that.
Pakistan can try and accomodate them both

 

[saiyan0312]

the only place he can get is either opening for blessed in all facets or wicket keeping. our middle order is fine. i will say he is better then younis and asad when he scores a century against steyn and co in SA. misbah and azhar are also solid.

 

[yadunoe]

I dont think he would make our test team or odi team I think haris, umar amin, umar akmal , sohaib maqsood are all better then him

 

[LegCutter]

Theres no way he is going to crack our Test middle order of Younis/Misbah/Azhar/Asad.
The ODI team; he can replace Hafeez at no 3

 

[King Amla 311*]

I dont think he would make our test team or odi team I think haris, umar amin, umar akmal , sohaib maqsood are all better then him

Don't even know who the last guy you mentioned is... Hahahaha 3 out of 4 players have done jack in international cricket so far and they are better than Khawaja?!? Its not like Khawaja's broken records or anything so far but when either of the players you have mentioned are playing test cricket currently then comeback and say something like that

 

[Gunner85]

If this thread is because of Usman Khwaja's half century in lords then let me tell it was not that good knock.yes he scored a fifty but a scrappy one.looked all at sea against swan.

 

[razabbas]

He cant make it to in our middle order , our middle order is loaded with solid temperement players - - -

The only way he can come in our playing XI is if he can keep or can open for us thats it.

Nothing special in him

 

[Anfield]

He is good enough to play for Pakistan, but not at the expense of Shafiq i dont agree with that.
Pakistan can try and accomodate them both

What has he done at International level to merit a place in any test side besides his country of course?

 

[Anfield]

The kind of Knocks Azhar Ali played against England in Dubai Khwaja can only dream of.

 

[Executioner]

I think he can transform into an opener and bat at the top. Unlike the middle order, the top order is fragile

 

[Anfield]

I think he can transform into an opener and bat at the top. Unlike the middle order, the top order is fragile

It's fragile no doubt but what has Khwaja achieved so far? 2-3 50s in what 14 Innings? I am not denying there is no room for players in our batting line-up, far from it but Khwaja is not any better than the players we have in our playing XI, if anything he's worse.

 

[Executioner]

It's fragile no doubt but what has Khwaja achieved so far? 2-3 50s in what 14 Innings? I am not denying there is no room for players in our batting line-up, far from it but Khwaja is not any better than the players we have in our playing XI, if anything he's worse.

Cant disagree

Khawaja has been abysmal in his international career so far but I think he has a lot more potential than that considering his performance in Australian domestic which is much more competitive than pak circuit. But then again, intl cricket is a completely different ball game as experts say

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Kawaja is a more technically correct and better stroke player than asad or Azhar . His problems are mainly mental IMO .

 

[Amjid Javed]

I'd have had him in the team ahead of Imran Farhat

Maybe ask Australia if they want to do a swap. Farhat would be probably Australias star batsmen if we did so!

 

[X-factor]

Khawaja hasnt had a consistent run in the team as of yet. Will be interesting to see how many hold true to their opinion a year down the road.

 

[yadunoe]

Don't even know who the last guy you mentioned is... Hahahaha 3 out of 4 players have done jack in international cricket so far and they are better than Khawaja?!? Its not like Khawaja's broken records or anything so far but when either of the players you have mentioned are playing test cricket currently then comeback and say something like that

lol with aus current line up any of those guys would make it

 

[yadunoe]

every player that pak has rejected so far has tuned out to be useless

 

[akamaka]

Only in the odi team as an opener (maybe). He is no way better than the likes of shafiq and Azhar who have proven themselves in test cricket in Crunch situations.

 

[lilFlip]

Some people are delusional here.

He is a good player. He is way better than our ttfs and ftbs.

I'd take him in Test/ODI and T20Is.

But, I'm happy that he is playing for Aussies, because in Pakistan cricket team I only want people who have passion to play for Pakistan.

 

[surprise-package]

Definitely he would be in.

Forget the fact that Pakistan has the weakest batting lineup among the eight top nations but just for his experience on bouncy Australian wickets. He would have been our best batsmen on tours to Australia and South Africa.

 

[ritzy_123]

At the moment he cannot replace anyone except Hafeez

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[Sadevdesai]

To say that Khawaja could not make into Pakistan Test team when he made into the Australian Test team, is like slapping your face to make your cheeks look rosy !!!!!!

 

[PakFan2010]

Deluded Pakistan fans

Check Khawajas innings in South Africa, He's miles better than Azhar Ali, Hafeez, Jamshed and Asad Shafiq.

He can play the pull shot.

 

[Pakprideuk]

Both Azhar and Asad have proven themselves. Till date Azhar has only had one bad series apart from that he's scored atleast one match-winning innings in every series. Just remember the england series in Dubai where Azhar scored 68 in a crunch situation with Asad who made 47 and Pakistan were able to put up 150 on the board for England to chase in the final innings.

Not to forget two 150+ scores with one coming against England and the other against Sri Lanka. Khawaja hasn't proven himself and has been very poor. I don't think he merits a place in our 11 at the moment considering we have Umar Akmal, Umar Amin and Haris Sohail consistently scoring 100s at the domestic level.

 

[coca-cola]

Kawaja is a more technically correct and better stroke player than asad or Azhar . His problems are mainly mental IMO .

Stroke maker yes - but as far as technique goes, Shafiq has it pretty much covered.

 

[Khaleefa]

Deluded Pakistan fans

Check Khawajas innings in South Africa, He's miles better than Azhar Ali, Hafeez, Jamshed and Asad Shafiq.

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This !!
There is not a single batsman in the current Pak team that reaches the shadow of Usman Khawaja. He is been extremely unlucky to have his career butchered by being played on and off and also at different spot. They never let him settle in.

 

[coca-cola]

To say that Khawaja could not make into Pakistan Test team when he made into the Australian Test team, is like slapping your face to make your cheeks look rosy !!!!!!

Stop looking at the past glory of Australian team. Right now they are mediocre at best. Their middle order includes the likes of Hughes and Smith for god's sake. Just because he's Australian doesn't necessarily make him a good cricketer. He has the technique and stoke play to be a really really good player, but he's not going to make it past established members of the test team like Azhar, Shafiq, Misbah or Younis on his current record...

 

[akamaka]

Khawaja has just two 50s in 7 test match. In 3 ODIs, 14 runs

 

[RagingJ]

Definitely he would be in.

Forget the fact that Pakistan has the weakest batting lineup among the eight top nations but just for his experience on bouncy Australian wickets. He would have been our best batsmen on tours to Australia and South Africa.

That's a good and interesting point.

 

[asifp]

FC average of 42 is OK. I choose guys like Fawad Alam and Umar Akmal over him any day!

 

[Alamgeer]

FC average of 42 is OK. I choose guys like Fawad Alam and Umar Akmal over him any day!

The man who cannot make it to the 30 probables for Pakistan is better than one who is playing in the middle order of Aus. interesting.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Stroke maker yes - but as far as technique goes, Shafiq has it pretty much covered.

Angled bat

Also he holds the bat so loosely when playing to the legside.

People tend to forget that asad wasn't averaging 50 in SA. He was doing well given our standards.

He survived the pacers and ripped into Peterson

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Imo, he's good enough to start in the Pak XI.

I think he's a better test batsman than Hafeez easily and could open for Pakistan.

But I don't think Pak is selecting their best 11s at the moment, so it's debatable.

 

[PakFan2010]

Also Khawaja is professional and he can speak proper English

He would be a good captain.

 

[Saj]

Usman Khawaja has been dismissed between 12 & 38 in eleven out of his seventeen Test innings

 

[in_cutter]

"I Wouldn't have Picked Usman Khawaja" : Mohsin Khan

They guy is a mega-flop. Don't know what the fuss is about.

 

[coca-cola]

Also Khawaja is professional and he can speak proper English

He would be a good captain.

what a dumb reason to have a batsmen in a team... and i don't think you know khawaja too well. a lot of people who've worked with him would say otherwise to his professionalism.

enough of this inferiority complex. just because he is "angraiz" doesn't mean he's a good enough batsman to walk into the team.

 

[Reverselap]

Shafiq has a century in South Africa. Azhar Ali has a 92 in England. Hundreds and 50's against tough opposition for both

What has Khwaja done?

 

[PakFan2010]

Khawaja has an average of 38.50 in South Africa.

What's Azhar Ali's, Jamshed and Asad Shafiq's average in SA?

 

[coca-cola]

^ Good comparison. Home conditions vs. away conditions, which player is better?

 

[in_cutter]

"I Wouldn't have Picked Usman Khawaja" : Mohsin Khan

Khawaja has an average of 38.50 in South Africa.

What's Azhar Ali's, Jamshed and Asad Shafiq's average in SA?

Check how many matches each have played in SA before comparing- Khawaja a whopping 1, Jamshed a whopping 2.

Why are you so bothered about Khawaja anyway? At the end of the day, he is Aussie!

 

[James]

He'd struggle to get into most teams to be honest.

 

[Buffet]

I am not sure if this lad has concentration to play at top level. He gets out in 20s/30s all the time.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

He's got a 42 average in Australian first class cricket. Would walk into Pakistans side.

 

[MarkCooper]

He's got a 42 average in Australian first class cricket. Would walk into Pakistans side.

How times change. He wouldn't get anywhere near the Test team just 5 years ago without averaging 50+ in First Class cricket.

 

[coca-cola]

He's got a 42 average in Australian first class cricket. Would walk into Pakistans side.

at the expense of who? Surely not Misbah and Younis. Hafeez? Unlikely given he can bowl.

Azhar? The guy who helped Pakistan whitewash England against the likes of Panesar and Swann on spinning tracks, the same duo that took down the "great" Indian batting line up? Khawaja can barely play Swann in English conditions. He misses comfortably straight balls.

Asad? Surely not on current form.

 

[PakFan2010]

at the expense of who? Surely not Misbah and Younis. Hafeez? Unlikely given he can bowl.

Azhar? The guy who helped Pakistan whitewash England against the likes of Panesar and Swann on spinning tracks, the same duo that took down the "great" Indian batting line up? Khawaja can barely play Swann in English conditions. He misses comfortably straight balls.

Asad? Surely not on current form.

Oh dear.
Khawaja can play the pull shot, Something which most Pakistan players can't do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ANTYFkBBjQ

Look at this innings.

 

[Wattoo]

he is good enough to replace azhar/shafiq ..

 

[Reverselap]

Oh dear.
Khawaja can play the pull shot, Something which most Pakistan players can't do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ANTYFkBBjQ

Look at this innings.

When the ICC makes a rule that only one batsman will face bouncers, he'll be great

 

[Wattoo]

the only place he can get is either opening for blessed in all facets or wicket keeping. our middle order is fine. i will say he is better then younis and asad when he scores a century against steyn and co in SA. misbah and azhar are also solid.

Lolz, Younas has 50+ average in tests mate. He is a good test batsman. Plus Asad and younas has recently scored centuries against SA. And usman is not opener nor a wicket keeper.

 

[coca-cola]

Oh dear.
Khawaja can play the pull shot, Something which most Pakistan players can't do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ANTYFkBBjQ

Look at this innings.

He can pull? maybe he should pull his average up from the 20s.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

at the expense of who? Surely not Misbah and Younis. Hafeez? Unlikely given he can bowl.

Azhar? The guy who helped Pakistan whitewash England against the likes of Panesar and Swann on spinning tracks, the same duo that took down the "great" Indian batting line up? Khawaja can barely play Swann in English conditions. He misses comfortably straight balls.

Asad? Surely not on current form.

Farhat chopped, Azhar made to open and Khawaja slots into the middle.

 

[James]

Farhat chopped, Azhar made to open and Khawaja slots into the middle.

Changing a whole batting order...to suit Usman Khawaja?

If this was a great or even good player then it would make sense...

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Did you see our batting last time we toured Aus/Eng/Sa? Seriously he would walk right in. Thats not due to him being a great or good player. Its due to the fact that we can't play outside of Asia and he can....a bit.

 

[coca-cola]

Farhat chopped, Azhar made to open and Khawaja slots into the middle.

that is the only way it would ever work.

Idc how unfair that would be to Azhar - as long as dhamaad ji doesn't make it into the team...

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I'd take Khawaja over any of our batsmen except Younis and Misbah IF we are playing outside of Asia, but taking into consideration all conditions he could only replace Farhat.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Usman Khawaja reminds me a little of Younis Khan of old. He needs one big score and the runs will flow.

 

[Professor]

he is good enough to replace azhar/shafiq ..

I'd take Khawaja over any of our batsmen except Younis and Misbah IF we are playing outside of Asia, but taking into consideration all conditions he could only replace Farhat.

Asad Shafiq bat ave outside asia :28

Azhar Ali bat ave outside Asia: 30

Usman Khawaja outside Asia: 24

So yeah Azhar and Asad both have modest averages outside of asia but still it is superior to UK's average. Now if we look at overall, than than both Azhar/Asad average at least 15 more runs than Usman Khawaja(both average around 42, compare to his 25). I am not sure on what basis you guys can say that Usman is better than Azhar/Asad. I think some people here have a werid viewpoint that if someone played cricket in Australia than he is automatically better than young Pakistani batsman.

 

[PakFan2010]

Asad Shafiq bat ave outside asia :28

Azhar Ali bat ave outside Asia: 30

Usman Khawaja outside Asia: 24

So yeah Azhar and Asad both have modest averages outside of asia but still it is superior to UK's average. Now if we look at overall, than than both Azhar/Asad average at least 15 more runs than Usman Khawaja(both average around 42, compare to his 25). I am not sure on what basis you guys can say that Usman is better than Azhar/Asad. I think some people here have a werid viewpoint that if someone played cricket in Australia than he is automatically better than young Pakistani batsman.

It's the truth, Khawaja is miles better than Azhar "block" Ali and Asad Shafiq bats lower down the order.

Azhar Ali isn't a 3, He blocks and blocks and kills the momentum of the side just to gain selfish runs.

 

[Professor]

It's the truth, Khawaja is miles better than Azhar "block" Ali and Asad Shafiq bats lower down the order.

Azhar Ali isn't a 3, He blocks and blocks and kills the momentum of the side just to gain selfish runs.

Truth? Can you please back this truth up by facts not just by calling Azhar Ali names?
Anyways we have a couple of Aussie posters here, i would like to ask them if they had a choice etween Azhar/Asad and Khawaja, which one would they pick?

 

[in_cutter]

"I Wouldn't have Picked Usman Khawaja" : Mohsin Khan

It's the truth, Khawaja is miles better than Azhar "block" Ali and Asad Shafiq bats lower down the order.

Azhar Ali isn't a 3, He blocks and blocks and kills the momentum of the side just to gain selfish runs.

Azhar averages 42 and has 4 hundreds to his name, Khawaja averages 25, 0 hundreds.

On what basis is Khawaja 'miles better' than Azhar?

 

[coca-cola]

Azhar averages 42 and has 4 hundreds to his name, Khawaja averages 25, 0 hundreds.

On what basis is Khawaja 'miles better' than Azhar?

because he plays the pull shot. obviously.

next question, please.

 

[hadi123]

No place for him in test team, our current test batting line up is fine

 

[Osman]

lets be honest...he is a poor player