ICC Champions Trophy 2013 vs ICC Champions Trophy 2025: Which campaign was more disastrous for Pakistan?

[mominsaigol]

Pakistan’s campaign in the 2025 ICC Champions Trophy has been more disappointing than the 2013 edition. Despite entering with high hopes, consecutive losses to New Zealand and India in the group stages have exposed the team’s vulnerabilities.

In 2013 Pakistan lost all 3 of their group stage matches against West Indies, South Africa and India.

For me this 2025 defeats feel more crushing, as the team’s inconsistency and lack of resilience have been evident.

Fans are frustrated, and the team faces serious questions about preparation, tactics, and leadership. As of now, the 2025 campaign is one of Pakistan's toughest challenges in recent memory.

Lets discuss

 

[JaDed]

I said it in other thread as well, 2013 was worse as PCT was fav there.. but got exposed.

 

[Hitman]

I'm not the one to boast of my team's credentials, but this CT has been a proper disaster for Pakistan in every sense. They have shown ZERO fight and competitiveness in both the matches so far.

The players know they will get away with it. Looks like they don't even care.​

 

[mominsaigol]

I'm not the one to boast of my team's credentials, but this CT has been a proper disaster for Pakistan in every sense. They have shown ZERO fight and competitiveness in both the matches so far.

The players know they will get away with it. Looks like they don't even care.​

This why I messaged you earlier. This is a shameless team.

Theirs a reason why Australia garners so much respect. They literally play with a nothing to lose mentality irrespective of whether their outgunned or not.

Pakistan on the other hand lives in a soap opera

 

[Asif321]

2013 team was worst under misbah and were expected to lose . This Rizwan led team was better on paper and playing at home still managed to be horrible .

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

I'm not the one to boast of my team's credentials, but this CT has been a proper disaster for Pakistan in every sense. They have shown ZERO fight and competitiveness in both the matches so far.

The players know they will get away with it. Looks like they don't even care.​

East might beat the West

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Merger of East and West Pakistan can compete better at international stage.
A little Bengali blood is needed over the Punjabi junoon.

 

[hafizexpress]

This why I messaged you earlier. This is a shameless team.

Theirs a reason why Australia garners so much respect. They literally play with a nothing to lose mentality irrespective of whether their outgunned or not.

Pakistan on the other hand lives in a soap opera

Even when Pakistan came and beat them at home?

 

[Rana]

Both seem very similar

SNGPL legacy

 

[giri26]

That is 2 times now where Pakistan looked million bucks in the lead up to an ICC tournament but failed to make an impact. In 2023 they were at the top of the world before they crashed in the Asia cup just before the World Cup. This year again they were coming of some serious series wins before they crashed in the tri-series before the WC. It can't be just skill which is deserting them, it is the mental aspect of the game. Don't think this set of players can reverse that trend as they have shown to be incapable of doing the same.

 

[BlindingLight]

That is 2 times now where Pakistan looked million bucks in the lead up to an ICC tournament but failed to make an impact. In 2023 they were at the top of the world before they crashed in the Asia cup just before the World Cup. This year again they were coming of some serious series wins before they crashed in the tri-series before the WC. It can't be just skill which is deserting them, it is the mental aspect of the game. Don't think this set of players can reverse that trend as they have shown to be incapable of doing the same.

They lack skill. Saying its a mental aspect is copium

 

[stani_pak]

2013 was really bad, but I think with the squad they had at that time, it was expected.

Despite Pakistan messing up the squad selection, and being the home team (although we are bad at home) there was an expectation to at least make the semi-finals.

So its a little hard to say, I will say there both equally bad hahaha

 

[mominsaigol]

Even when Pakistan came and beat them at home?

Bi laterals are different. Australia retired 5 of their players in an eliminator just to prepare for BGT

 

[Suleiman]

I hated that 2013 CT WI game so much. It was like someone drawing an irregular rectangle again and again or hearing someone’s voice crack over and over

Every time it looked like we would cross the line, something would happen and we lost. Fighting for our lives against that WI was diabolical.

That batting order was even weaker than this one though. Although 2013 Junaid, Irfan and Wahab >> Current pace attack.

45 degree Ajmal and Hafeez was also great, don’t have the spinners now either

 

[shah9425]

2013 Batting was pathetic We dropped Afridi I remember
But bowling was better than today

So lets see after final match which was more worse

 

[Devadwal]

This is bigger embarassment and disappointed than any other campaign because at home

 

[RidiculousMan]

2013 still.

In this campaign Pakistan at the very least got 1 point.

 

[shah9425]

I will say 2013 was much more disastrous

 

[sweep_shot]

- Pakistan didn't have the full team available during CT 2025. No Fakhar and no Saim.
- Pakistan's 1 game got rained out. That should've been an easy win for them.
- Indian drama also didn't help.

So, I think we can cut Pakistan some slacks as far as 2025 CT goes.

2013 CT was in England and Pakistan generally do well in England. So, I say 2013 CT was far more disastrous for Pakistan as they lost all games.

 

[mominsaigol]

2013 still.

In this campaign Pakistan at the very least got 1 point.

Absolutely not. 2025 is 100x more disastrous.

In 2013 Pakistan atleast managed to give west indies a heart attack and managed one close encounter.

2025 featured a massacre and it wasn't just because Pakistan was outmatched but simply due to a lack of intent.

22-2 in 10 overs and 150 for 2 in 35 overs has to be the 2 most embrassing performances I've ever seen.

The way saud and babar opened against NZ, the way rizwan and saud batted against India. The way imam ul haq was hyped as the returning replacement and Pakistani fans badly wanted a fakhar and Imam duo to return only for the guy to hit 10 of 30 and get run out in a comical manner

The constant drop catches and rubbish fielding, the pathetic fitness standards, babar losing it against fakhar and proving he's a hypocrite, etc etc

To top it off Pakistan were the hosts yet only got one game in their own den and their own fans didn't even support them this time around.

2013 was a horror show but 2025 takes the cake.

 

[mominsaigol]

- Pakistan didn't have the full team available during CT 2025. No Fakhar and no Saim.
- Pakistan's 1 game got rained out. That should've been an easy win for them.
- Indian drama also didn't help.

So, I think we can cut Pakistan some slacks as far as 2025 CT goes.

2013 CT was in England and Pakistan generally do well in England. So, I say 2013 CT was far more disastrous for Pakistan as they lost all games.

Pakistan's 1 game got rained out. That should've been an easy win for them.

No bamgladesh would have beaten Pakistan considering form and morale.

 

[Suleiman]

2013. Expectations were p high back then due to good bowling attack and defeating India in India.

Expectations were low this time after Saim and Fakhar were out.

Which is crazy because 2025 Pak smokes that 2013 squad any day of the week.

 

[mominsaigol]

2013. Expectations were p high back then due to good bowling attack and defeating India in India.

Expectations were low this time after Saim and Fakhar were out.

Which is crazy because 2025 Pak smokes that 2013 squad any day of the week.

No they don't if you consider current forms and not overall records. No fakhar and no saim means death

1) Imam ul haq > Nasir jamshed

2) Babar Azam > Kamran Akmal

3) Hafeez > Saud shakeel

4) Rizwan > Asad shafiq

5) Agha > Misbah

6) Malik > Tayyab

7) Khusdil > Umar amin

8) Wahab riaz > Current shaheen who's a joke

9) Chuck Ajmal > Naseem

10) Junaid Khan 2013 form > Rauf

11) abrar > Irfan in terms of value as he's a better spinner then irfan is as a pacer and a better tailender as well.

2013 Pakistan has a vastly superior bowling attack and while the batting is weak, The gap isn't as high as it is in bowling. Imam himself is bloody useless. He's as rubbish as nasir jamshed however jamshed is worse.

Same with Babar azam who maybe > 2013 KA but barely.

Hafeez in 2013 despite being in his Dale steyn nightmare moment is massively > saud as a batter. Rizwan is > Asad and agha > Misbah but Misbah is more reliable in that he can accumulate better and get 50 scores more often. Agha is a utility player and without support he isn't carrying much.

2013 malik is still > Tayyab and the gap between khusdil and unar amin isn't that high just because khusdil managed to play 2 of his best innings of all time lol. He would fail more often then not and this khusdil perfect no 7 drama would end.

10 overs of ajmal, Junaid, and wahab in his usual tournament form is too much fir 2025 Pakistan to handle