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THE International Cricket Council is considering ditching the Champions Trophy in favour of staging the World Twenty20 on a biennial basis.

While the final of the ICC’s secondary 50-over competition attracted an estimated televised audience of hundreds of millions as Pakistan crushed India at The Oval, the governing body is keen to capitalise on the exponential rise of its shortest format.

India are slated to host the ninth staging of the Champions Trophy in four years’ time but ICC chief executive Dave Richardson revealed it is far from a certainty.

This month’s Champions Trophy, held intermittently since 1998, was contested between only the top eight sides in the world, while the World Cup is currently scheduled to include just 10 teams.

It is a similarity between two of its biggest events that has led to a rethink, while Richardson expressed his hope that future World Twenty20s could become more inclusive with up to 20 nations invited to participate.

“What we want to do is differentiate our global events from each other so that they can be stand-alone and create maximum interest every time the event happens,” Richardson said.

“At this stage, the next Champions Trophy is still scheduled for India in 2021. Whether that gets changed, the consideration has been given to changing to two T20s in a four-year cycle which would mean swapping the Champions Trophy for a World T20.

“The fact is that World T20s do attract a lot of interest, they generate significant revenue for the television companies, but most importantly from our point of view they provide us with an opportunity to give more opportunities to more teams.

“A 16-team World T20 — even a 20-team World T20 — down the line is something that we would like to look at.

“With a 10-team World Cup we’re hoping to increase the competitiveness of matches and the standard of the tournament as a whole.

“It might not be necessary to continue with two 50-over tournaments going forward.”

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...y/news-story/41b8b46fde12e7e99624feff22cb0626
 
T20s are meh.
Shorter matches, bigger crowds and a wider demo.

T20s are the future of cricket (really they're the present).

I reckon one of ODI cricket or Test cricket will go as more and more leagues are set up around the world.
 
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yes, i understand the logic there. can't have two tournaments.
 
Shorter matches, bigger crowds and a wider demo.

T20s are the future of cricket (really they're the present).

I reckon one of ODI cricket or Test cricket will go as more and more leagues are set up around the world.

ODIs are the best format.
 
T20s are a big part of the future.

I'm surprised they played a 2017 version. Looked like it was ready to be scrapped after 2013.
 
T20s are a big part of the future.

I'm surprised they played a 2017 version. Looked like it was ready to be scrapped after 2013.

India won the last edition they had to play one with India as the defending champs. Cash cow.
 
India won the last edition they had to play one with India as the defending champs. Cash cow.
Pretty much.

ICC tried to cash in on that, but after the phainty in the Final, I don't think Indians will mind seeing the end of the tournament :))
 
To me a CT win is better than a WC win as European championship in football is better than WC in football. Other than Brazil and Argentina you don't have many other good teams in the World allthough some of the Latin American teams are good. So the competition in EC is tougher than WC.
 
A 20 team T20 WC + 10 team WC sounds pretty good tbh.

No country other than India takes the T20 WC seriously anyway :bm


See the celebrations by SL, Pakistan, WI when they win T20 WC and you would know countries care about it.. Just Australia care less about it other than that most countries care about a World Cup..
 
See the celebrations by SL, Pakistan, WI when they win T20 WC and you would know countries care about it.. Just Australia care less about it other than that most countries care about a World Cup..
Aus, NZ, SA and England don't care too much about it as it's usually on during football season. No idea about how it's viewed in Pakistan and SL, but I assume they care about it considering cricket is the most popular sport in those countries.
 
Aus, NZ, SA and England don't care too much about it as it's usually on during football season. No idea about how it's viewed in Pakistan and SL, but I assume they care about it considering cricket is the most popular sport in those countries.

I think if SA wins they would also care since they haven't won anything big and the hype they will get in their media on reaching final would be huge..

Australia and England are test nations so T20 would be a minority format there..

In NZ cricket itself is probably a minority sport compared to rugby and maybe some other sports so even if they won anything big in cricket even 50 over WC or test Series against Australia they won't care enough like when they win something big in rugby.. I might be wrong you can correct me here
 
I think if SA wins they would also care since they haven't won anything big and the hype they will get in their media on reaching final would be huge..

Australia and England are test nations so T20 would be a minority format there..

In NZ cricket itself is probably a minority sport compared to rugby and maybe some other sports so even if they won anything big in cricket even 50 over WC or test Series against Australia they won't care enough like when they win something big in rugby.. I might be wrong you can correct me here
Aus and NZ care little about the format.

There's interest for cricket during the summer, but usually world tournaments barely get coverage in NZ due to the timing (on really late and during Super Rugby and NRL season).

Australia it's a little earlier but there you compete with AFL, NRL and to a lesser extent Super Rugby.
 
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Tbh there's decent interest during the summer as there's nothing on, but it's nowhere near the same during world tournaments due to other sports and timing.

Cricket might be a fair weather sport in NZ as well, a lot of fans seem to have dropped off since the 2015 WC. Then again it may have been just the fans who embraced the tournament rather than the sport.
 
if it does get canned we can start the trend #wewontgiveitback and not look like fools :)))
 
Tbh there's decent interest during the summer as there's nothing on, but it's nowhere near the same during world tournaments due to other sports and timing.

Cricket might be a fair weather sport in NZ as well, a lot of fans seem to have dropped off since the 2015 WC. Then again it may have been just the fans who embraced the tournament rather than the sport.

Yup that's what I thought point if if they hold a WC every 2 years they would further devalue the World Cup and the format..
 
They should retire the competition now. It won't ever get better than the 2017 edition and no other team deserves to be known as the final Champions Trophy winners than this Pakistani side.
 
Do not ditch it , its a good tournament to assess the teams before the world cup. There are already so many t20 leagues around the world , 6 7 months of cricket is t20 and frankly i do not like t20 cricket much.
 
if it does get canned we can start the trend #wewontgiveitback and not look like fools :)))
That campaign was so cringey, but I guess that's what happens when you're only good in one sport :)))
 
Hope not. Great tourney imo. Short and sweet.
 
I have always been a big fan of this tournament. I wonder what the problem is with having an ICC tournament every year:

2011 - World Cup
2012 - WT20
2013 - Champions Trophy
2014 - WT20
2015 - World Cup
2016 - WT20
2017 - Champions Trophy

...... and so on.

You get a World Cup and a Champions Trophy every 4 years, and a WT20 every 2 years.

Some people won't like it, but there is no room for a Test Championship, especially the proposed model of 4 teams playing 3 matches. That's rubbish.
 
no its good as it is, ICC should stop shooting its own foot

T20 is just an entertainment, its not real cricket
 
Would be strange if they did. This tournament created a lot of interest. And the Pak vs India final match was one of the most hyped events for some time. Tournaments are the most exciting way of playing ODIs. Not the same as T20 tournaments which seem more luck based, like any team could win on their day. ODIs tournaments you get to see a side picking up momentum and playing good cricket over a longer period of time. It's a different feel from T20 tournaments, even though i enjoy those two.

Test championship just wouldn't work, and quite frankly I don't see it seeming very different from just regular test series. Whoever is playing at home will have a massive advantage too unlike in LOI tournaments where one feels any team can win. If they want to create more importance to tests ranking, they could do something similar to football leagues, have every team play a series at home and away during a time period (two years perhaps), and the team that finishes at the end after all this is done as no.1 wins the Test cup. However in reality even this is hard to implement as teams play each other at different regularities.
 
I'm for the earlier format, the knockout one.

Champions Trophy should be made knockout like the first 2 editions. Also stage in an emerging country to spread the popularity of cricket over there, like 1998 in Ban, 2000 in Kenya.
 
I'm fine with scrapping the Champions Trophy, it doesn't serve any purpose now they have reduced the number of teams.

I'm not OK with holding the Mickey Mouse cricket cup every two years, it's boring enough as it is. The only way they can get me on board is if they drastically increase the number of teams and get all the diddy sides in.
 
no its good as it is, ICC should stop shooting its own foot

T20 is just an entertainment, its not real cricket

What exactly do you think sports are? They can be used for positive functions, they can be used to teach people important life lessons, but the majority of that is at the amateur level. Professional sports are at their core entertainment. I might be entertained by Test cricket but that doesn't mean everyone is.
 
There is space for everything. Both the Cricket World Cup and Champions Trophy can be held after every 4 years.
 
The best team to ever play the sport won it so time to retire the tournament, it is all downhill from here.
 
I feel the shine is coming off T20s. And if it wasn't for WI not many would care as much.

I honestly find T20's being utterly overplayed, and if the ICC do indeed scrap one of these tournaments for a 2-year gap T20 WC it'll ruin whatever it once had.
 
It's on par if not more than the WC, at least the top 8 teams compete rather than having the minnows being bashed.
 
2021 Champions May Not Take Place: Dave Richardson

LONDON: The Champions Trophy could be scrapped in favour of staging the World T20 every two years, according to International Cricket Council (ICC) chief executive David Richardson.

Pakistan thrashed India by 180 runs to win this year’s edition of the Champions Trophy at The Oval on Sunday, with a worldwide television audience of millions watching the stunning final.


But some officials believe the eight-team event is now too similar to the World Cup which the ICC, controversially, has decided should be contested by just 10 teams from the 2019 event in England.

India are due to stage the next Champions Trophy in 2021 but Richardson said on Monday it was by no means certain the event would go ahead, with the former South Africa wicketkeeper saying future World T20s could feature up to 20 teams.

“What we want to do is differentiate our global events from each other so that they can be standalone and create maximum interest every time the event happens,” Richardson told reporters via telephone on the eve of the ICC’s annual conference in London.

He added: “At this stage, the next Champions Trophy is still scheduled for India in 2021. Whether that gets changed, the consideration has been given to changing to two T20s in a four-year cycle which would mean swapping the Champions Trophy for a World T20.”

Talking about World T20s, Richardson reveals that the shorter format’s premier tournament generates far more interest. “The fact is that World T20s do attract a lot of interest, they generate significant revenue for the television companies, but most importantly from our point of view they provide us with an opportunity to give more opportunities to more teams.

“A 16-team World T20 — even a 20-team World T20 — down the line is something that we would like to look at. With a 10-team World Cup we’re hoping to increase the competitiveness of matches and the standard of the tournament as a whole. It might not be necessary to continue with two 50-over tournaments going forward.”

This week’s ICC gathering at The Oval is also set to decide whether to grant Test status to Ireland and Afghanistan, with an announcement expected on Thursday.

“It’s never wise to try and make a call too early, but certainly the applications of both are very well founded,” said Richardson. “They both, on the face of it, meet the majority, if not all, of the full member criteria that has been set. I’m optimistic that they’ll be given serious consideration to have every chance of succeeding.”


https://tribune.com.pk/story/144028...may-not-take-place-warns-icc-chief-executive/
 
50-over cricket is much fun than T20... this is a boom for the fans
 
I hope they keep it. The best of the best in 1 tournament is brilliant. T20 WC should be expanded though. T20s are the way we can expand cricket.
 
Champions trophy for me was a multi nation tournament that happens every now and then, even though it doesn't, World Cup is still a massive tournament, but 2015 one was just a formality and as a Pakistani, I had absolutely zero interest until we reached the quaters miraculously
 
The ODI WC should have 12 or more teams,the T20 WC should have 18 teams without the qualifying rubbish.
The CT can continue,I have no problems with it except for the scheduling.
 
T20 should be played at club level. At international level play only the longer format 50 over and the Tests.
 
Champions trophy serves no purpose if we already have a world cup where only 10 teams will participate.

Champions trophy should be held every 4 given world cup retains the earlier formats.

Another thing I would like to focus is that why only England hosting these tournaments.

We know they hosted two seasons of CT back to back also will host next CWC.
 
Champions trophy serves no purpose if we already have a world cup where only 10 teams will participate.

Champions trophy should be held every 4 given world cup retains the earlier formats.

Another thing I would like to focus is that why only England hosting these tournaments.

We know they hosted two seasons of CT back to back also will host next CWC.

2013 CT: England
2015 ODI WC: Australia
2016 T20 WC: India
2017 CT: England
2019 ODI WC: England
2020 T20 WC: Australia
2023 ODI WC: India


That is the big three effect for you.


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Most bilateral ODI series have very little meaning so an ICC global event is always something avid cricket fans can look forward to! IMO the model we have now is awesome (highlighted above in Mamoon's post). I like having multi-national ODI tournaments. Even a XYZ Cup in Sharjah is better than a bilateral series for me. The only bilateral ODI series I would watch is Pakistan vs India to be honest.

Yay for multinational tournaments! Frequency of World Cup should NEVER change (and I'm sure it won't). WT20 frequency is also spot on, and we don't need additional WT20's.
 
Most bilateral ODI series have very little meaning so an ICC global event is always something avid cricket fans can look forward to! IMO the model we have now is awesome (highlighted above in Mamoon's post). I like having multi-national ODI tournaments. Even a XYZ Cup in Sharjah is better than a bilateral series for me. The only bilateral ODI series I would watch is Pakistan vs India to be honest.

Yay for multinational tournaments! Frequency of World Cup should NEVER change (and I'm sure it won't). WT20 frequency is also spot on, and we don't need additional WT20's.

ICC and cricket fans are masters of fixing things that are not broken. Absolutely nothing wrong with the scheduling of the ICC tournaments as it is, the only thing that should be changed is that countries like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc. should also get hosting rights.
 
CT is a good tournament and harder to do well than the WC IMO.

the WC, World T20 and the CT should all stay.
 
ICC and cricket fans are masters of fixing things that are not broken. Absolutely nothing wrong with the scheduling of the ICC tournaments as it is, the only thing that should be changed is that countries like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc. should also get hosting rights.

Bangladesh hosted the 2014 World T20 whilst SL hosted the 2012 World T20.
 
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