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"If a ball is there to be hit, I will try to smash it out of the park" : Sahibzada Farhan

In a PCB setup pre-1999 Farhan would already be in the team. Its not him only Pakistan has become one of the worst batting nations in cricket due to the nepotism orchestrated by the PCB. With U19 performance most are worried would we ever recover?

With Inzamam as chief selector I don't have much hope Farhan on any other good player would reach the Pakistan squad.
 
Hamstead_joy said:
In a PCB setup pre-1999 Farhan would already be in the team. Its not him only Pakistan has become one of the worst batting nations in cricket due to the nepotism orchestrated by the PCB. With U19 performance most are worried would we ever recover?

With Inzamam as chief selector I don't have much hope Farhan on any other good player would reach the Pakistan squad.
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Dear what made you think that pre 1999 was a non nepotistic era?
 
Rawalpindi Region 302-7 in 50 overs: (Azhar Ali 104, 111 balls, 9x4s, 1x6, Umar Amin 81, 88 balls, 6x4s, 2x4s, Iftikhar Ahmed 38, 36 balls, 6x4s, Taj Wali 4-43)

Peshawar Region 305-2 in 47.3 overs: ( Israrullah 150, 125 balls, 14x4s, 5x6s, Asad Shafiq 102*, 89 balls, 10x4s, 2x6s, Sahibzada Farhan 40, 66 balls, 4x4s, 1x6, Attaullah 1-62 )

Result: Peshawar Region won the match by 8 wickets
 
72 from 107 balls in last game and now 40 from 66 balls,
Kyaa huwaa bhai, he said he admires Shehzad and he is taking it seriously now
 
UN talkz said:
72 from 107 balls in last game and now 40 from 66 balls,
Kyaa huwaa bhai, he said he admires Shehzad and he is taking it seriously now
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Not a good sign, his strike rate is going down alarmingly. He is getting wrong guidance. Someone needs to speak to him. He is yet to break into the side. Can't build a case for himself if he piles dot balls in domestics.
 
Not surprised. He has strike-rotation issues. Not the master blaster we were expecting. Will be a lot more clear in PSL. Decent temperament though.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Not surprised. He has strike-rotation issues. Not the master blaster we were expecting. Will be a lot more clear in PSL. Decent temperament though.
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We are just desperate to hype up anybody since 3 of our aggressive openers have been banned. Farhan was never a master blaster as people hyped him up to be, he is more of an accumulator who can up the ante once set which is good for ODIS. Although in T20s I think given a long run, Mukhtar Ahmed or Nasir Nawaz can be that person.
 
DeadBall said:
We are just desperate to hype up anybody since 3 of our aggressive openers have been banned. Farhan was never a master blaster as people hyped him up to be, he is more of an accumulator who can up the ante once set which is good for ODIS. Although in T20s I think given a long run, Mukhtar Ahmed or Nasir Nawaz can be that person.
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Thats true. Sharjeel, Latif and even Shahzaib Hasan were massive losses to our LOI cricket. All three were turning into beasts, although I believe Shahzaib would have struggled with that stand and deliver technique against better bowlers. In my opinion, the only two dynamic batsmen in our entire domestic cricket are Fakhar Zaman and Sohaib Maqsood. If Maqsood has sorted out his tempermanet issues, he can turn into a solid middle-order batsman for Pakistan. I'm sure we will see him open the innings though to accomodate Hafeez and Malik in the future :facepalm:
 
UN talkz said:
72 from 107 balls in last game and now 40 from 66 balls,
Kyaa huwaa bhai, he said he admires Shehzad and he is taking it seriously now
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Chief selector likes openers who can see off shine and bat through innings.
 
UN talkz said:
72 from 107 balls in last game and now 40 from 66 balls,
Kyaa huwaa bhai, he said he admires Shehzad and he is taking it seriously now
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Well his team won those matches so you have look at the context of the innings, which I can't talk about since no live coverage.

Sahibzada should still be at the top choice if we want to try out a new opener. He has performed consistently, scored quickly in most cases but most importantly he scored in the most competitive List A tournament we have i.e the Pectangular or National OD cup where he was the best opener of the tournament.
 
He needs to work on his stance to be very honest. That crouch is ugly and with it he will find it difficult against the short ball on any half decent bouncy track. I hope its not his regular stance and its just that he is trying to adapt to low bouncy pitches.
 
ManFan said:
Is he better against pace or spin?
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From what I saw in the pentangular cup he didn't move his feet much against fast bowling which might trouble him against lateral movement. But anything remotely loose from the bowlers went to the boundary. As far as spin goes I don't know how he will fare against higher quality spinners but seemed ok at domestic level. He does have the big shots against spinners though.

Like I said the PSL will tell us a lot about him when he faces higher quality bowling.
 
Fahdi said:
From what I saw in the pentangular cup he didn't move his feet much against fast bowling which might trouble him against lateral movement. But anything remotely loose from the bowlers went to the boundary. As far as spin goes I don't know how he will fare against higher quality spinners but seemed ok at domestic level. He does have the big shots against spinners though.

Like I said the PSL will tell us a lot about him when he faces higher quality bowling.
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Than he will struggle in the PSL as it will be mostly spinners on wickets that will turn. Troubling times ahead but hopefully he comes good.
 
His team Peshawar were set a target of 282 and he played an amazing innings in their successful chase with a run a ball 119. He hit eight 4s and three 6s. Really hope he has a good PSL!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The day that Sahibzada Farhan will be called up to the Pakistan ODI team is edging closer. His last few List A scores:<br>119, 40, 72, 85, 14 and 88<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/960152410781110272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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hadi123 said:
His team Peshawar were set a target of 282 and he played an amazing innings in their successful chase with a run a ball 119. He hit eight 4s and three 6s. Really hope he has a good PSL!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The day that Sahibzada Farhan will be called up to the Pakistan ODI team is edging closer. His last few List A scores:<br>119, 40, 72, 85, 14 and 88<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/960152410781110272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Was this televised? If yes then can you find any highlights?
 
He can work on strike rotation when he’s in the national team. Needs to be in the squad ASAP, nothing will happen in domestics.
 
babajee said:
He can work on strike rotation when he’s in the national team. Needs to be in the squad ASAP, nothing will happen in domestics.
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This shows the mentality of all of the people in general.

Strike rotation is the basics of cricket and if this is not being taught or being ironed out at the club or domestic level then this points out to a bigger issue in the cricket systems in Pakistan.

The onus should and always will be on the player to prove themselves and work on these issues in their game before being called up to the national team.

If they're finding it hard to do so at domestic level then what makes you think they can or will do it at international level against quality teams?
 
Deewana Mastana said:
This shows the mentality of all of the people in general.

Strike rotation is the basics of cricket and if this is not being taught or being ironed out at the club or domestic level then this points out to a bigger issue in the cricket systems in Pakistan.

The onus should and always will be on the player to prove themselves and work on these issues in their game before being called up to the national team.

If they're finding it hard to do so at domestic level then what makes you think they can or will do it at international level against quality teams?
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The thing is he doesn’t have to work on rotating the strike in domestics as he can find the boundary with ease and end up playing innings at a good SR.

Agreed, the system is messed up lol. But time is on his side to iron out flaws.
 
babajee said:
The thing is he doesn’t have to work on rotating the strike in domestics as he can find the boundary with ease and end up playing innings at a good SR.

Agreed, the system is messed up lol. But time is on his side to iron out flaws.
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While I support his inclusion in the national team, I don’t agree that he will find the boundary with ease in international cricket. New players have a few good initial games before the better opposition figures out your strengths and shuts you down. That’s when the true quality of the batsman comes to the fore. Can he adapt his game and his shots? Can he rotate the strike so that he doesn’t get bogged down (after all, even the oppositions plans need to be executed)
 
Need to get him in the ODI and T20i squad. He is in good form. Need to use it to our benefit before he suffers a first slump in form(Every young batter suffers from it)
 
babajee said:
He can work on strike rotation when he’s in the national team. Needs to be in the squad ASAP, nothing will happen in domestics.
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Lmao... strike rotation is the second thing a kid learns after defense. If he hasn't learned how to rotate the strike by now, he never will. We might have another Shehzad on our hands.
 
Syed1 said:
Lmao... strike rotation is the second thing a kid learns after defense. If he hasn't learned how to rotate the strike by now, he never will. We might have another Shehzad on our hands.
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We might indeed have another Shehzad but Sahibzada deserves a go on merit.
 
Averages 69 at SR of 83 in the Regional One Day Cup so far.
 
Ahmed Shehzad in ODIs: Average 32.56, SR 72.08
Ahmed Shehzad in List A: Average 56.67, SR 95.27

We just have to hope that the likes of Farhan, or any new openers we try in ODIs, don't turn out to be duds at the international level. They need to have the ability to overcome the challenges they face, which Shehzad is incapable of doing.

For comparison:

Fakhar Zaman in ODIs: Average 45.83, SR 94.33
Fakhar Zaman in List A: Average 51.55, SR 94.83
 
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Abdullah719 said:
Ahmed Shehzad in ODIs: Average 32.56, SR 72.08
Ahmed Shehzad in List A: Average 56.67, SR 95.27

We just have to hope that the likes of Farhan, or any new openers we try in ODIs, don't turn out to be duds at the international level. They need to have the ability to overcome the challenges they face, which Shehzad is incapable of doing.

For comparison:

Fakhar Zaman in ODIs: Average 45.83, SR 94.33
Fakhar Zaman in List A: Average 51.55, SR 94.83
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Your love for Shehzad is immense... I have scrolled three to four different threads... Where you are just trying to prove how crap Shehzad is :)))
 
Syed1 said:
Lmao... strike rotation is the second thing a kid learns after defense. If he hasn't learned how to rotate the strike by now, he never will. We might have another Shehzad on our hands.
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Not in Pakistan, atleast I remember from our time, few decades ago, first thing you learn is how to strike the ball hard. Tape ball Cricket was very dominating, 90% plus starts with tape ball. There are lot of fundamental issues with tape ball, you use your bottom hand a lot, no feet movement, its hand eye co-ordination for most part. There is hardly any short balls, because they sit up so nicely, no body really use them, so there are few lengths you have to worry about. There is no concept of placing the ball for strike rotation, you either hit hard or get out. You develop lot of bad habits while playing tape ball cricket. Same is not true for bowlers, you actually develop better skills at lighter ball at younger age. you learn to bowl fuller and yorker length at a very young age, and also how to give more air to the ball (aka swing the ball), plus arm speed(that is much easier with lighter tape ball, you can develop better shoulder and back muscles), which are hard things to do with hard ball when you are young. That's why guys like Wasim/Amir were swinging the ball long before they ever picked up hard ball in their hand.

You can see reflection of lot of these in Pakistani batting culture. Kids have to learn batting all over again when starting playing with hard ball. That means many of the top tier talent is filtered out, the other issue is hard ball cricket is rich kids game, actually very rich people's game, 80-90% of Pakistan cannot afford it. Real talent in batting never comes up to the top...
 
Sports_Psychologist said:
Your love for Shehzad is immense... I have scrolled three to four different threads... Where you are just trying to prove how crap Shehzad is :)))
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I was analysing the statistics of Pakistani openers in recent times and thought of using Fakhar and Shehzad for comparison, specially since Farhan was compared to Shehzad above. I don't have to prove anything, the numbers speak for themselves. :))

Actually, the previous comments are on point. There are similarities in terms of their statistics and in fact, Shehzad has outperformed MOST openers in Pakistan recently, specially in 50-over tournaments. But we can't extrapolate that to mean that since Shehzad struggled, the others will struggle too.
 
Abdullah719 said:
I was analysing the statistics of Pakistani openers in recent times and thought of using Fakhar and Shehzad for comparison, specially since Farhan was compared to Shehzad above. I don't have to prove anything, the numbers speak for themselves. :))

Actually, the previous comments are on point. There are similarities in terms of their statistics and in fact, Shehzad has outperformed MOST openers in Pakistan recently, specially in 50-over tournaments. But we can't extrapolate that to mean that since Shehzad struggled, the others will struggle too.
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:))) well we all know that... there's nothing wrong in comparison... I was laughing about similar posts in 2,3 different treads..
 
Needs to do something fancy in PSL to make himself noticed.
 
Not ready for international cricket yet. 6 (16) is unacceptable in T20s.
 
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Shocking performance, knowing how ISU operate that may mean him being dropped, which would be a mistake. Have to back players like this, especially where they have merited their opportunity
 
Very poor innings from Sahibzada. Haven't seen anything impressive from him in 2 games
 
What on earth is Waqar teaching this kid, he's regressing under his coaching :mv [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION]
 
PakPassion.net : Which batsmen have impressed you the most, players whom you would consider your role models, perhaps?

Sahibzada Farhan : The player I have watched and admired has always been Ahmed Shehzad but if you ask me about who I like amongst the non-Pakistanis then the answer is simply Sachin Tendulkar as he is in a different class altogether and is a legend. Sachin is my cricketing hero and he is a legendary cricketer.
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:(
 
Most of these guys are all talk. Very unimpressive so far. Pak batsmen are being badly exposed.
 
Rayyman said:
Give him another chance before bashing. He struggled today, but it was good bowling on a trash pitch where even Fakhar looked like Murali.
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Not bashing, man. But that was a Shehzad-esque knock.

Hopefully he has a better showing next game and isn't dropped.
 
Rayyman said:
Give him another chance before bashing. He struggled today, but it was good bowling on a trash pitch where even Fakhar looked like Murali.
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Lol Fakhar is not looking like Murali, he's just bowling real slow with flight to deceive the batsmen, Santner does this and he's getting some success.

Can't blame pitch every time either, look at Talat, he played a blinder during the chase the other day in a low scoring game.
 
BlueDoritos said:
Lol Fakhar is not looking like Murali, he's just bowling real slow with flight to deceive the batsmen, Santner does this and he's getting some success.

Can't blame pitch every time either, look at Talat, he played a blinder during the chase the other day in a low scoring game.
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Talat was clueless against Tahir too. He only scored against the three Multan pacers. Plus they were chasing 130 so not under pressure to score quickly.
 
Alright, relax. Stop behaving like a bunch of teenagers every time you see a new player fail. You have to give them time, especially batsmen.
 
Rayyman said:
Talat was clueless against Tahir too. He only scored against the three Multan pacers. Plus they were chasing 130 so not under pressure to score quickly.
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Lol half his team git out on 60 odd he had to score the majority of the runs for IU, and he was facing the best bowling unit until then. And you say this is no pressure? :ishant Sahibzada didn't even have half of that pressure. Sohail also got wrecked in his last game so he's not bowling like Shoaib Akhtar either, Talat would smash him to all parts.
 
The lad was awful, not playing any shots or showing any positivity. Another few innings like the one today and no one will pick him again.
 
BlueDoritos said:
Lol half his team git out on 60 odd he had to score the majority of the runs for IU, and he was facing the best bowling unit until then. And you say this is no pressure? :ishant Sahibzada didn't even have half of that pressure. Sohail also got wrecked in his last game so he's not bowling like Shoaib Akhtar either, Talat would smash him to all parts.
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Talat did exactly that hit him out of the ground. :ishant
 
6 off 16 isn't good and needs to improve. Hopefully he doesn't end up like his hero Ahmed "Selfie" Shehzad.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Alright, relax. Stop behaving like a bunch of teenagers every time you see a new player fail. You have to give them time, especially batsmen.
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Keep on dreaming, this is pakistanis we are talking about. Anyway, hope this kid is given the whole PSL will be a good experience for him. He does have raw talent but is a work in progress with not a lot of experience, needs support and a long rope
 
BlueDoritos said:
Lol half his team git out on 60 odd he had to score the majority of the runs for IU, and he was facing the best bowling unit until then. And you say this is no pressure? :ishant Sahibzada didn't even have half of that pressure. Sohail also got wrecked in his last game so he's not bowling like Shoaib Akhtar either, Talat would smash him to all parts.
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First you talk about pitches and then jump to pressure lol. :fadi
 
Rayyman said:
First you talk about pitches and then jump to pressure lol. :fadi
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You're clutching on straws right now, Admit it, Sahibzada has looked awful so far and Talat looked much better than him doesn't matter if under pressure or difficult pitch... :danish
 
I think we also have to appreciate that these guys have never played in front of decent crowds with their every move be analysed. Some will swim, others will sink.
 
Hope Farhan learns a thing or two from Ronchi!
 
Glimpses of his talent today.

Some beautiful shots.
 
Shot of the night there against Tymal. Doesn't look assured against the short stuff though. Doesn't get over the ball.
 
He clearly has talent and potential, some of those shots were really nice.

I think Pakistan should just try him in LOIs because he has potential and there is nobody better than him.
 
his best innings of the PSL, he really got comfortable after looking a little shaky at the start. Ronchi going the way he way could only have helped

He's clearly got potential, but I don't think he's ready for international cricket just yet
 
Has potential.

Need to develop off side game and hitting a bit more.
 
He’s got a bit of potential. This is why the next match should really be misbahs last match because there are a lot of youngsters who could contribute more to the team then misbah.
 
Misbah have got a fractured hand. [MENTION=7701]Prince of Pakistan[/MENTION]
 
babajee said:
Welcome back :afridi

Who’s better Umar or Farhan?
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Thanks. :najam

Umar when he started was better, but the current Umar is not the same.

Need to see more of Farhan but from watching him in domestics, he's currently better.
 
aloo paratha said:
He clearly has talent and potential, some of those shots were really nice.

I think Pakistan should just try him in LOIs because he has potential and there is nobody better than him.
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True. Right now Shehzad is our opener. :(
 
He was quite fortunate in both the dropped catch and there was hardly any pressure on him due to Ronchi.

However I was very impressed, it takes skill to hit big against proper pace, and he did that with pure timing, not just slogging


I hope he score's well in the final

Really glad Farhan got this chance, it gives me renewed hope for his selection
Our opening options are so limited bar Fahkar that i would give Farhan a go in the t20s vs WI over the likes of Amin or Asif Ali
 
babajee said:
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] did you see him today?
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Not much.

But did that straight SIX, which indicates ability. Now, how much he can protect his wicket by his shot selection, will determine where he'll end - KL Rahul actually plays some shots better than Kohli - but he might have played his last game in LO for IND before WC 2019 today.
 
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