If Ahmed Shehzad didn't fail in first match of the CT, Fakhar Zaman would have never gotten a chance

[rajimam]

It is typical Pakistani system of selection. Every now and then some good young players are being selected on merit in 16 men's squad. But finally the TTFs are being tried in the playing XI and new talents are being benched.

We all observed that Fakhar Zaman got selected for the first time in West Indies tour of 2017. In all 3 ODI matches he was ignored for Shehzad who miserably failed. Then we saw Shehzad in the CT squad. In the first match against India, shehzad again got opening spot instead of Fakhar. Again Shazzy failed miserably. So, the management had no way except trying Fakhar.

So, what occurred if any how Shazzy could manage a score like 30(45) against India in first match? I think, Fakhar never got a game in CT although consequently he became the key batsman to win us the Champions Trophy.

That is the example of our selection maxim. "TTFs for field and youngsters for bench ever." In order to prove eligibility, a player should have some chances. How can a youngster prove himself even without getting some games? This the Pakistani way of buring the talents.

In this T20 Series against SL, same way is being followed till now. Chucker is brought back in the age of 37. He will get all 3 games with a 14 average and 103 strike rate. But I can't expect Umar Amin or Amer Yameen get a single game to prove themselves. I am very frustrated with this unfair policy but what to do?

 

[another drop catch]

Sarfraz in post match presentation insists that he will field different team today
so there is a chance he might play both amin and yamin in todays match

 

[fawad_wellwisher]

F Zaman is completely clueless on these slower UAE pitches. He can't strike the ball until the ball comes on to the bat nicely.

 

[Syed1]

F Zaman is completely clueless on these slower UAE pitches. He can't strike the ball until the ball comes on to the bat nicely.

Sharjeel had a grand total of one fifty in T20s in UAE.

These type of pitches aren't conducive for batsmen like Fakhar and Sharjeel. Still I'd take Fakhar any day of the week over the likes of Shehzad and Azhar.

 

[Rana]

Sharjeel had a grand total of one fifty in T20s in UAE.

These type of pitches aren't conducive for batsmen like Fakhar and Sharjeel. Still I'd take Fakhar any day of the week over the likes of Shehzad and Azhar.

acha jee,

Lets break down your statement..."these types of pitches"...elaborate, what's in these pitches and what is the difference between the pitches in the UAE, The road in Lahore and the three tracks in England in which Fakhar scored big on? Fakhar fails in UAE just like Sharjeel does because "these types of pitches" don't suit players like him. But pitches like the one in Lahore suited a failure such as Shahzad, hence they were very easy to bat on...yet Fakhar was ordinary on those as well. I'm not sure what your argument is here? So Fakhar and Sharjeel like pace on the ball? That doesn't answer what most critics are saying about him trying to hit the ball too hard instead of trying to use the pace.

"Players like Sharjeel and Fakhar". Can you back your claim up by producing a list of "players like them" and proving they don't succeed in the UAE?

 

[Mamoon]

Sharjeel was much better than Fakhar, who is superior version of Awais Zia. Sharjeel was a gifted timer and picked up the length very early. His footwork was poor which would have made him a walking wicket against lateral movement, but he was a much better batsman overall. Very much in the mould of Warner.

Fakhar is not a good timer and nor does he pick up the length early. He has played more bouncers with his helmet than with his bat. His bat speed is very impressive and he can hit the ball hard when it is in his arc, but he looks very ungainly outside his comfort-zone or when the bowlers seem to have a plan against him. Tries to hit the ball too hard. and is technically all over the place.

However, he is mentally strong and has the character to pull through. I think his confidence is dented at the moment and he is struggling to live up to the expectations. Badly needs a big knock, and it has to come soon otherwise it will be hard for him to justify his place. The CT final century will not keep him in the team for the rest of his career.

 

[another drop catch]

Ahmed shehzad was far more better than one innings wonder Fakhar zaman

 

[Rana]

Sharjeel had a grand total of one fifty in T20s in UAE.

These type of pitches aren't conducive for batsmen like Fakhar and Sharjeel. Still I'd take Fakhar any day of the week over the likes of Shehzad and Azhar.

From Cricinfo,

David Warner-
4 T20I matches played in the UAE, 165 runs scored @55.00 Strike rate 141. 2x50s

Quinton De Kock
2 TOI played in UAE, 78 runs @78.00, strike rate 136.84


Tamim Iqbal
11 T20I matches in UAE, 361 runs @45.12, Strike rate 115.33 , 4x50s
(Tamim's career average is 29.83)


Eoin Morgan (not an opener, but a Sharjeel, Fakhar type player)
7 T20I matches in UAE, 168 runs @33.60, strike rate of 117.48
(Morgan's career average is 28.65, his strike rate is 130.46, a realistic candidate to back your claim only in terms of his general runs flow)


With these prominent names in the world and their success in the UAE, I think you must be reffering to Shikhar Dhawan

 

[babajee]

From Cricinfo,

David Warner-
4 T20I matches played in the UAE, 165 runs scored @55.00 Strike rate 141. 2x50s

Quinton De Kock
2 TOI played in UAE, 78 runs @78.00, strike rate 136.84


Tamim Iqbal
11 T20I matches in UAE, 361 runs @45.12, Strike rate 115.33 , 4x50s
(Tamim's career average is 29.83)


Eoin Morgan (not an opener, but a Sharjeel, Fakhar type player)
7 T20I matches in UAE, 168 runs @33.60, strike rate of 117.48
(Morgan's career average is 28.65, his strike rate is 130.46, a realistic candidate to back your claim only in terms of his general runs flow)


With these prominent names in the world and their success in the UAE, I think you must be reffering to Shikhar Dhawan

Abu dhabi is especially worse. I’m willing to bet that these stats are much worse there

 

[DRsohail]

Sharjeel was much better than Fakhar, who is superior version of Awais Zia. Sharjeel was a gifted timer and picked up the length very early. His footwork was poor which would have made him a walking wicket against lateral movement, but he was a much better batsman overall. Very much in the mould of Warner.

Fakhar is not a good timer and nor does he pick up the length early. He has played more bouncers with his helmet than with his bat. His bat speed is very impressive and he can hit the ball hard when it is in his arc, but he looks very ungainly outside his comfort-zone or when the bowlers seem to have a plan against him. Tries to hit the ball too hard. and is technically all over the place.

However, he is mentally strong and has the character to pull through. I think his confidence is dented at the moment and he is struggling to live up to the expectations. Badly needs a big knock, and it has to come soon otherwise it will be hard for him to justify his place. The CT final century will not keep him in the team for the rest of his career.

he was not that bad in odi,score two good cameos but yes he needs to perform and to get a big score otherwise we know how we treatyoungsters after some failures while hafiz and sarfarz will have a free ride despite of sero performance insn year.

 

[rajimam]

My point wasn't Sharjeel vs Fakhar or Shehzad vs Fakhar in this thread. I think some people have commented without reading my post thoroughly.

My concern is that in Pakistani selection method although some youngsters are being selected, finally TTFs are being preferred for final XI. Youngsters are always overlooked. Please comment on this point.

 

[srh]

It is typical Pakistani system of selection. Every now and then some good young players are being selected on merit in 16 men's squad. But finally the TTFs are being tried in the playing XI and new talents are being benched.

We all observed that Fakhar Zaman got selected for the first time in West Indies tour of 2017. In all 3 ODI matches he was ignored for Shehzad who miserably failed. Then we saw Shehzad in the CT squad. In the first match against India, shehzad again got opening spot instead of Fakhar. Again Shazzy failed miserably. So, the management had no way except trying Fakhar.

So, what occurred if any how Shazzy could manage a score like 30(45) against India in first match? I think, Fakhar never got a game in CT although consequently he became the key batsman to win us the Champions Trophy.

That is the example of our selection maxim. "TTFs for field and youngsters for bench ever." In order to prove eligibility, a player should have some chances. How can a youngster prove himself even without getting some games? This the Pakistani way of buring the talents.

In this T20 Series against SL, same way is being followed till now. Chucker is brought back in the age of 37. He will get all 3 games with a 14 average and 103 strike rate. But I can't expect Umar Amin or Amer Yameen get a single game to prove themselves. I am very frustrated with this unfair policy but what to do?

Sarfraz and Mickey were horrible with how they treat Fakhar

Only Pakistan was lucky that Shehzad failed in first CT match and the rest is history.

 

[Hasan123]

But he failed and Fakhar got his chance .

 

[Sirris]

That's exactly the reason why I always favor selecting a new player and giving him a fair chance instead of hoping for repeated failure to find back his lost Form and unleash the "talent".

Stats are just stats, behind these stats is a person, a human being which a factor in itself. Some people are mentally tough while others are weak. Some are hard worker and learn from their mistakes while others blame everyone but themselves. No two player who have the exact same average and SR would be actually the same in their approach of the game.

 

[another drop catch]

Fakhar is batting version of wahab
one performance here and there
like wahab's pace is pace yaar
fakhar's strike rate is strike rate yaar
both doesn't results in consistency

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Even if that wasn’t against India then no Fakhar at all I guess.