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"If I can be No.1 in the world without power hitting, then I don't need power hitting" : Babar Azam

For all of Babar Azam's class, he is still a mental midget

I have yet to see him do anything of note in a big run chase.

This is his time do something for the team.

He looks exceptional batting first, but put him in a run chase and he disappears.

Would like to see him take the team home once chasing 300 or in this case get the team close to 373.

Anything less kind of bodes badly for you in this era where your top batsman and one of the top 10 batsman in the world has not made any meaningful contributions to get you over the line in a big run chase.
 
Which means Babar over here needs to get a 100 or a big 150 at higher than run a ball.

His notorious knock against Australia chasing 360 in dead rubber ODI where he compromised the chase just to get to his 100 and then get out right afterwards didnt stand really well regardless of his achievements in that series.
 
If you are chasing scores of 380 then you need a team of sloggers. I don't think we have sloggers who are good enough anyway, and I don't think we'll be chasing 380 every game so not sure what your point is.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
If you are chasing scores of 380 then you need a team of sloggers. I don't think we have sloggers who are good enough anyway, and I don't think we'll be chasing 380 every game so not sure what your point is.
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Concept of power hitters is old.

England would've still made 330-340 even without Butlers power hitting had their regular batsman been batting.

Your top 3 have to fire for you to win a big run chase. The top 3 is good enough to accelerate attack and contain according to the situation.

That's actually what his status and the games situation demands
 
waleed88 said:
Concept of power hitters is old.

England would've still made 330-340 even without Butlers power hitting had their regular batsman been batting.

Your top 3 have to fire for you to win a big run chase. The top 3 is good enough to accelerate attack and contain according to the situation.

That's actually what his status and the games situation demands
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Babar is one of the few technically complete batsmen in the Pakistan team, that gets him in my team every time. Who would you suggest to take his place in the ODI team?
 
Why has he hit the brakes? Again an example of a batsmen who scores soft runs. He is playing a horrendous innings. Needs to step it up. I am a fan of Baber and I’m disappointed how it’s going about this
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Babar is one of the few technically complete batsmen in the Pakistan team, that gets him in my team every time. Who would you suggest to take his place in the ODI team?
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Point I'm making is something else. He likes to be compared to Kohli, then he has to walk the talk
 
Babar azam again compromising on a run chase for his selfish needs. Youd think in 2 years he wouldve improved as a batsman and played more for the team under pressure.
 
waleed88 said:
Point I'm making is something else. He likes to be compared to Kohli, then he has to walk the talk
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He's not Kohli, and neither is anyone else apart from Kohli. The only way to get Kohli in our team is to invade India, defeat their army then plant the Pakistan flag in Dehli. Would you be happy with that solution?
 
The OPs is right He needs to show a lot more intent here and generally when batting The rate required is hitting 9s and 10s and babar is going along at 5 an over picking up singles

Chasing 300 plus totals you need everyone to buy in to the chase and show aggression

Fakhar cant do it on his own
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
He's not Kohli, and neither is anyone else apart from Kohli. The only way to get Kohli in our team is to invade India, defeat their army then plant the Pakistan flag in Dehli. Would you be happy with that solution?
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I had a little less extreme solution in my mind. But yes whatever
 
If Babar would've gone full Virat Kohli at this point Pakistan wouldve been favorites. Alas he is just a pretender and I hate being right about his timidness all the time. Was looking for his selfish 50 rather than play for the team. As soon as he tried to accelerate he got out.
 
Supremely disappointing. Just a decent supporting player at the moment. Lacks a killer instinct and that’s separates the good from the best.
 
Softie.

These words will haunt him today.

But Babar will come good.

Just needs to play ODIs like T20s where he is a gun batsman.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
He's not Kohli, and neither is anyone else apart from Kohli. The only way to get Kohli in our team is to invade India, defeat their army then plant the Pakistan flag in Dehli. Would you be happy with that solution?
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Now here's a plan :ashwin
 
If Babar had scored same amount of runs as Fakhar at the same SR, Pakistan would have won.
 
He is one of our two or three solid bats. Why are we criticising him? Yeah he had trouble reaching the fence but didn't do too bad...

Although the context of the game was such that he needed to play at 100+ SR but he was always an accumulator so we shouldn't expect the slogging from him. It should have been the lower order hitters wo did that but they clearly failed.
 
Babar got out unluckily . He was playing perfect support role to Fakhar Zaman.
Even if kohli was there he would have played similarly as in a partnership one batsman accumlates and the other goes after the bowling.
 
He was playing the perfect innings yesterday.
Haris needed to do exactly the same supporting Asif to take the game deep.
I can't believe what I am reading
 
Even if kohli was there he would have played similarly as in a partnership one batsman accumlates and the other goes after the bowling.
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lol, yeah sure!
 
Also, what's the obsession with comparing Babar with Kohli who is a top-3 ODI bat ever?
 
"I am the best, forget the rest, my game is air-tight, Oscar nominated, no cracks in it, no improvement needed" - P much every Pak cricketer from the last 15 years when talked to about their weaknesses.

Most notable being none other than, :hafeez and :afridi
 
No.1 he don't want to be compared with kohli.
He know he has to do well.
In 2nd odi he was playing perfectly. He is our best batsman and you don't have any replacement.
 
waleed88 said:
If Babar would've gone full Virat Kohli at this point Pakistan wouldve been favorites. Alas he is just a pretender and I hate being right about his timidness all the time. Was looking for his selfish 50 rather than play for the team. As soon as he tried to accelerate he got out.
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Gone full Virat Kohli? Which level does this mode get unlocked?
 
Not everyone batsmen has to be a power hitter, there should be one player who can bat all the way at 85+ SR, so that others around him can attack and Babar is the best available for that role, he should go for the big shots only in the last 10 overs.

If he had played some random shots rather than playing sensible cricket, he might have given his wicket and all of the other batsmen could have falled like pack of cards, which usually happens with Pakistani batting lineup and we might have not reached 361.

For years, we wanted a highly consistent batsman who can play long innings at a 80-90 SR throughout the 50 overs, and now when we have one, we want him to develop into something which might hurt his natural game. His importance will be even greater on pitches that will be difficult for batting, which might be few but can happen in a KO game. Then, you will see power hitting isn't everything.

I am pretty sure he will end up as the greatest batsman ever to play for Pakistan in all formats Inshaallah and we just need to support him.
 
By nature he is not a power hitter. Rahane once in a while can play innings. But too malnourished to be a power play. Doesn't mean small guys can't be great finishers. For instance Shane Rutherford from Windies.Dinesh Karthik, Pooran from Windies can all smoke big sixes when needed.
 
Even Kohli admitted several times about the importance of power hitting and how he is still trying to improve that part of his game. Babar is a bit too arrogant for his own good.
 
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33 ball and no boundary!!


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This shows what is wrong with the PAK batting game plan if there even is one!
I mean does Babar really think that PAK will score a minimum of 9 runs per over for the next 25 overs or so! That wicket was a batsman dream wicket. How on earth can be on 26 facing more then 30 deliveries!

This is a failure from his side, a big one. Yet so called PAK analysts were praising his innings.
 
Our very own 'better than Kohli at his age' only scored 1 boundary in his run a ball half century trying to chase 373.

Would like to see him do more in a chase than just boost his average. Hasn't had a single match winning contribution in big run chases for our country.

One of the main culprits for our flopped run chase... has the mental strength of a snowflake.

If your best batsman thinks so selfishly no wonder your team hardly ever chases a total like this.
 
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Arsalan Pro said:
Not everyone batsmen has to be a power hitter, there should be one player who can bat all the way at 85+ SR, so that others around him can attack and Babar is the best available for that role, he should go for the big shots only in the last 10 overs.

If he had played some random shots rather than playing sensible cricket, he might have given his wicket and all of the other batsmen could have falled like pack of cards, which usually happens with Pakistani batting lineup and we might have not reached 361.

For years, we wanted a highly consistent batsman who can play long innings at a 80-90 SR throughout the 50 overs, and now when we have one, we want him to develop into something which might hurt his natural game. His importance will be even greater on pitches that will be difficult for batting, which might be few but can happen in a KO game. Then, you will see power hitting isn't everything.

I am pretty sure he will end up as the greatest batsman ever to play for Pakistan in all formats Inshaallah and we just need to support him.
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He can't be our greatest batsmen if his chasing ability is so poor. Doesn't bode well your for star no.3

To be mentally so fragile
 
waleed88 said:
He can't be our greatest batsmen if his chasing ability is so poor. Doesn't bode well your for star no.3

To be mentally so fragile
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He is still learning, ain't a 30+ year old fellow. I said he will end up as one of the greatest, not is.

His game is one of the finests with only few deficiencies. For now, he needs to bat as long as possible at a healthy SR with others accelerating around him.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
He is still learning, ain't a 30+ year old fellow. I said he will end up as one of the greatest, not is.

His game is one of the finests with only few deficiencies. For now, he needs to bat as long as possible at a healthy SR with others accelerating around him.
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If you haven't chased a total in your 4th year as an International cricketer. Then you can't be the greatest. Youre a mental midget. Inzamam managed to do that as a teenager.

He still has a long way to go to be considered even a 'great'
 
Doesnt bode well on you that your star batsman rakes in soft runs that hardly ever benefit your team half the time.
Especially when chasing and the pressure is on you.
 
I seriously don't see Babar Azam achieving much in his international career other than few hundreds, to be honest. He is missing that one thing to be counted among the elite players, Hunger.

Hunger to succeed and hunger to win.

What i have seen in his recent knocks is that he slows down when he is near hundred or fifty.

He looks to me more of milestone focused person than actually trying to win it for his team and not be worried about all the personal milestones on his way.

He surely lacks the temperament that he must possess to be counted as an elite player.
 
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He gets a free pass because he is 'best of the lot' but it will reflect very poorly on him if he is the same mental midget this world cup for us without any match winning or meaningful contributions for the team.
 
waleed88 said:
If you haven't chased a total in your 4th year as an International cricketer. Then you can't be the greatest. Youre a mental midget. Inzamam managed to do that as a teenager.

He still has a long way to go to be considered even a 'great'
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Not everyone is same, Inzi might have more natural ability but didn't justified it with his averages in the end. He was more of a match winner.

Babar currently is a consistent batsman who lacks that ability, still he is the Number 1 T20I batsman who has helped his team become the best in the world. Also, is a Top 5 ODI batsmen.

Everyone has different opinion, but for most of us he is the best in Pakistan currently. Again he isn't that good of a chaser, yet a foil for others to step on the gas.
 
Babar has started off really well here. Has to bat till 40th over at least today and score in excess of 150 to make up for his failures in the series.
 
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32 off 34 so far from babar Consuming too many dot balls

Really needs to up this if pakistan is to post 350 plus again
 
Again , playing for himself ...so many dots then a good looking 4. Story of Babar's career
 
Both are batting well so far.
But still a lot to do to be the number 1 batsman in the world. For this, he has to perform in tests.
 
Needa to make his next 100 off 75 balls and then carnage around him please from one and all
 
It's a 380+ pitch..those who are defending this 90-100 SR batting should be looking at the past few scores at this ground . Blind support of favourite players makes people write nonsense..
 
England avge 7.5 runs an over on this ground over the last 4 years

So anyone saying a run a ball is acceptable is looking at another hammering
 
How well he played Archer and Wood when both were really bowling brilliantly at 90+mph in the power play. That was a brilliant display of batting.

He surely was selfish yesterday in the 80's but overall it was still a good innings. For SR etc you have to look at what his counterpart, Joe Root is doing and you will understand that Babar Azam is doing perfectly fine with his SR.
 
Maybe he needs to rethink this. How about add something new to your game rather giving full effort and dribbling away for a single. Pathetic attitude. He'll never be a great if he's just satisfied.
 
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