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Are Indians really concerned that Bangladesh might actually do this?
If they did, it would be the most epic left field move no one would have expected.
But in reality it will not happen unless Indian instigates something first.


Nah no one is concerned. We are just having a hearty laugh at Kanglu delusions.Are Indians really concerned that Bangladesh might actually do this?
If they did, it would be the most epic left field move no one would have expected.
But in reality it will not happen unless Indian instigates something first.

I am glad you are showing the rightful map of Kashmir ... hallelujahWhich one do you prefer?
i. A only
ii. B only
iii. C only
iv. Both B and C
My pick: iv (Both B and C).
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have you seen Indian government make any statement about imminent threat of BD attacking India?Are Indians really concerned that Bangladesh might actually do this?
If they did, it would be the most epic left field move no one would have expected.
But in reality it will not happen unless Indian instigates something first.

Are Indians really concerned that Bangladesh might actually do this?
If they did, it would be the most epic left field move no one would have expected.
Reminds me exCtly like their cricket fans..doing Naagin dance and other cringe celebrations ...the basti vibe in gentleman's game and now geopolitics...minnows who get frustrated for not being treated as equal and we all know how fans with chip in their shoulder cry at the end of every match...have you seen Indian government make any statement about imminent threat of BD attacking India?
BD is a basket case. Whatever good was happening under hasina is undone now. It’s funny for most Indians to see BD clowns talking about greater BD and whatnot. It’s amusing though.![]()
If you think about it maybe these call centers are supported by their army and government to get them billions to buy weaponsThey have a loss rate of over 90% when it comes to military conflicts.
They are not made for wars. They should stick to call center scamming and unethical business practices.![]()
Yeah man all the wars were won by Pakistan...If you think about it maybe these call centers are supported by their army and government to get them billions to buy weapons
Nuke threats work on non nuclear power anot on a nuclear power,Disproportionate response..that Pakistan has... Large scale attack on Indian civilian or economic centers..mass Ballastic missiles attack or nukes...only these will result in India destroying the country of Pakistan and break it up into provinces..else it will be more of small scale conflicts aimed at symbolic message and deterrence
Dhaka was surrender ed to india and your ancestors came running to us with folded hands to save them, that's your aukaat, don't talk big , you're from Bangladesh, living in North America doesn't change thatThey have a loss rate of over 90% when it comes to military conflicts.
They are not made for wars. They should stick to call center scamming and unethical business practices.![]()
It will never happen, Bangladesh has no military capabilities, if they try anything they will lose rangpur and chtAre Indians really concerned that Bangladesh might actually do this?
If they did, it would be the most epic left field move no one would have expected.
But in reality it will not happen unless Indian instigates something first.
Delulu is their default software uploaded by their militaryYeah man all the wars were won by Pakistan...
Kashmir is with them
Bangladesh is with them
Siachen is with them
Kargil is with them.
Delulu ka bhi hadd hota hai
Are Indians really concerned that Bangladesh might actually do this?
If they did, it would be the most epic left field move no one would have expected.
But in reality it will not happen unless Indian instigates something first.
If you think about it maybe these call centers are supported by their army and government to get them billions to buy weapons

10 Billion is nothing for Indian GDP. But for Pakistan, it is massive.I wouldn't be surprised if India's GDP is heavily boosted by call center scammers and other fraudsters. They seem to loot Billions (maybe even Trillions) on a regular basis.



Why Bangladesh should get Assam?
Reasons:
1) Assam was historically a part of Bengal.
2) Assam borders Arunachal Pradesh which belongs to China and China is likely to get it at some point.
3) Sharing a border with China is much better than sharing border with India. China is also BD's biggest economic and military partner.
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So if Pakistan really export a nuke to BD, then they could manage it much better, feel sorry for your country then10 Billion is nothing for Indian GDP. But for Pakistan, it is massive.
I just saw that BD GDP is more than Pak GDP.
Ind - $4.2T
BD - $475B
Pak - $410B
Congrats Sweeper. You are better than your Islamic brother.![]()
Pak does not have it in them to export any Nuclear tech to BD. Trump will not be happy. For an economy on ventilator, any sanctions will spell certain death for Pak.So if Pakistan really export a nuke to BD, then they could manage it much better, feel sorry for your country then
Indian GDP is not 4.2T... Its a complete fabrication, we have gone through this before.10 Billion is nothing for Indian GDP. But for Pakistan, it is massive.
I just saw that BD GDP is more than Pak GDP.
Ind - $4.2T
BD - $475B
Pak - $410B
Congrats Sweeper. You are better than your Islamic brother.![]()
Indian GDP is not 4.2T... Its a complete fabrication, we have gone through this before.

North Korean regime will be laughing on your comment lolPak does not have it in them to export any Nuclear tech to BD. Trump will not be happy. For an economy on ventilator, any sanctions will spell certain death for Pak.
North Korean regime will be laughing on your comment lol

Which one do you prefer?
i. A only
ii. B only
iii. C only
iv. Both B and C
My pick: iv (Both B and C).
A)
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B)
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C)
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Maps like this, the Akhand Bharat map etc get me puzzled. What do you propose to do with all of the 100s of Millions of Hindus in the former Indian lands that Bangladesh will supposedly occupy in this instance? Will they be killed? Chased away? Converted? How does this fantasy work in terms of briding some of it with reality?
Same question for the Indians touting the Akhand Bharat fantasy - what will you do with the close to 1 Billion muslims in these lands especially when Hinduism does not have an organized proselytizing+conversion like Islam does?
Are both these plans and people who purport these just plain stupid or is there some method to this fantasy madness?
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You will be more surprised if you compare GDP per capita and hdi in 2023...Bangladesh is at par with India and ahead in many sectors....pity all that is gone when they allies with beggar bankrupt jehadi countries10 Billion is nothing for Indian GDP. But for Pakistan, it is massive.
I just saw that BD GDP is more than Pak GDP.
Ind - $4.2T
BD - $475B
Pak - $410B
Congrats Sweeper. You are better than your Islamic brother.![]()
No Indian Hindu wants any more Muslims particularly the Taliban let jihad kind in West and the lungi but more rabid kind in the west in India anymore....poor ill educated intolerant sharia law abiding people should not be allowed in...liberal educated people can be welcomed as they add value to the society and that should be irrespective of religion.Maps like this, the Akhand Bharat map etc get me puzzled. What do you propose to do with all of the 100s of Millions of Hindus in the former Indian lands that Bangladesh will supposedly occupy in this instance? Will they be killed? Chased away? Converted? How does this fantasy work in terms of briding some of it with reality?
Same question for the Indians touting the Akhand Bharat fantasy - what will you do with the close to 1 Billion muslims in these lands especially when Hinduism does not have an organized proselytizing+conversion like Islam does?
Are both these plans and people who purport these just plain stupid or is there some method to this fantasy madness?
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Sure man...all the foreign investors Microsoft Amazon etc are not investing in India because they know Indias data is fabricated and don't do due diligence in pumping billions of dollars ..keep crying..might solve the water crisis as IWT is scrappedIndian GDP is not 4.2T... Its a complete fabrication, we have gone through this before.
Kim jong in can survive...can Asif Munir survive with our peace prizeNorth Korean regime will be laughing on your comment lol
See what I wrote .I didn't say Paksitan can win..I said India will escalate and destroy or invade Paksitan only if Pakistan makes a disproportionate move...it will not work but it will result in India escalating. For example it doesn't have to be nukes but imagine a Hamas style attack on India..do you think Pak military will survive that attack ..they won't ..now it's up to them if they want to use nukes or try to find a humiliating yet better for everyone exitNuke threats work on non nuclear power anot on a nuclear power,
But Saar BD is a shoopa powaaa Shaaar. Believe me shaaar!!You will be more surprised if you compare GDP per capita and hdi in 2023...Bangladesh is at par with India and ahead in many sectors....pity all that is gone when they allies with beggar bankrupt jehadi countries

Kim jong in can survive...can Asif Munir survive with our peace prize
You do realize if you include all that area, Muslims will be in severe minority in those lands right?Which one do you prefer?
i. A only
ii. B only
iii. C only
iv. Both B and C
My pick: iv (Both B and C).
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Lol @Devadwal why your media so worried about such a contingency
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Pakistan eyes Saudi-like military deal with Bangladesh. What it means for India
Over the past few months, several top Pakistani defence officials have made back-to-back visits to Bangladesh. From the chairperson of Pakistan's Joint Chiefs of Staff, Navy chief, to ISI head Lt General Asim Malik -- all have made a beeline to Dhaka as Muhammad Yunus steers Bangladesh away from Delhi towards Islamabad. It is, however, not for nothing. Amid tensions with India running high, Pakistan and Bangladesh are now eyeing a defence agreement, similar to the one Islamabad signed with Saudi Arabia.
In September, Saudi Arabia signed a strategic mutual defence agreement with nuclear-armed Pakistan. However, what caught the attention was the wording - "an aggression against either country shall be considered an aggression against both". In Pakistan, the pact was seen as a strategic deterrence against India, which sent Islamabad running for cover during Operation Sindoor in May.
THE PAKISTAN-BANGLADESH TANGO
Now, the buzz is that Pakistan is looking to sign a similar NATO-style defence pact with its newfound ally, Bangladesh. It will be the first such arrangement since the 1971 liberation of Bangladesh. Ironically, the same Pakistani armed forces carried out genocide and massacred lakhs of Bangladeshis during the war.
The countries have already established a joint mechanism to draft the proposed agreement, according to two media reports. The deal, when signed, will pave the way for Bangladesh and Pakistan to officially begin sharing intelligence, conduct joint military drills, and even enter into arms agreements.
However, there is no word on whether the deal will include nuclear cooperation. If it does, it will no doubt be a worrying aspect for India. As part of its deal with Saudi Arabia, Pakistan has claimed that its nuclear capabilities would be available even though Riyadh has been ambiguous.
CONCERN FOR INDIA
The ongoing unrest in Bangladesh, which has taken a sharp anti-India tone following the murder of radical leader Sharif Osman Hadi, has only given Pakistan a platform to push the defence deal.
On Tuesday, a leader of Pakistan's ruling party demanded a formal military alliance between the countries, only adding credence to the speculation.
"If India attacks Bangladesh, Pakistan will stand with Dhaka with full force... Those who control ports and seas rule the world," Pakistan Muslim League leader Kamran Saeed Usmani said. He argued that a Pakistan-Bangladesh military partnership would significantly alter regional power dynamics.
While India has not commented on the matter, it is closely monitoring the developments, IANS quoted officials as saying. If such an agreement is indeed signed, it can be a potential security challenge on the eastern front, particularly if nuclear cooperation is included.
It gels well with Pakistan's strategy of a "two-front war" against India -- combining pressure from the west and the east.
With the Awami League barred from the elections, India will be hoping that Khaleda Zia's Bangladesh National Party (BNP), which is more Delhi-friendly than the radical Jamaat-e-Islami, comes to power. In that case, the deal may be stalled, reports said. The Jamaat is known to be a stooge of Pakistan's spy agency, ISI.
It is the reason why Pakistan wants the pact to be formalised under a favourable Yunus administration, which has pushed for closer ties with Islamabad at the cost of distancing Bangladesh from India.
Source: India Today

Bangladesh, Pakistan, and China are on the same page when it comes to India.
Even Maldives, Nepal, and Sri Lanka have issues with India.
India have become pretty isolated in the region thanks to the ret*rded sanghis.![]()
I think China is likely to liberate Zangnan (also known as Arunachal Pradesh).

Let me rephrase it..why is Pakistan getting excited about it. It's the same reason we don't like it. I completely see why Paksitan wants this deal but I don't see why Bangladesh wants this deal.Lol @Devadwal why your media so worried about such a contingency
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Pakistan eyes Saudi-like military deal with Bangladesh. What it means for India
Over the past few months, several top Pakistani defence officials have made back-to-back visits to Bangladesh. From the chairperson of Pakistan's Joint Chiefs of Staff, Navy chief, to ISI head Lt General Asim Malik -- all have made a beeline to Dhaka as Muhammad Yunus steers Bangladesh away from Delhi towards Islamabad. It is, however, not for nothing. Amid tensions with India running high, Pakistan and Bangladesh are now eyeing a defence agreement, similar to the one Islamabad signed with Saudi Arabia.
In September, Saudi Arabia signed a strategic mutual defence agreement with nuclear-armed Pakistan. However, what caught the attention was the wording - "an aggression against either country shall be considered an aggression against both". In Pakistan, the pact was seen as a strategic deterrence against India, which sent Islamabad running for cover during Operation Sindoor in May.
THE PAKISTAN-BANGLADESH TANGO
Now, the buzz is that Pakistan is looking to sign a similar NATO-style defence pact with its newfound ally, Bangladesh. It will be the first such arrangement since the 1971 liberation of Bangladesh. Ironically, the same Pakistani armed forces carried out genocide and massacred lakhs of Bangladeshis during the war.
The countries have already established a joint mechanism to draft the proposed agreement, according to two media reports. The deal, when signed, will pave the way for Bangladesh and Pakistan to officially begin sharing intelligence, conduct joint military drills, and even enter into arms agreements.
However, there is no word on whether the deal will include nuclear cooperation. If it does, it will no doubt be a worrying aspect for India. As part of its deal with Saudi Arabia, Pakistan has claimed that its nuclear capabilities would be available even though Riyadh has been ambiguous.
CONCERN FOR INDIA
The ongoing unrest in Bangladesh, which has taken a sharp anti-India tone following the murder of radical leader Sharif Osman Hadi, has only given Pakistan a platform to push the defence deal.
On Tuesday, a leader of Pakistan's ruling party demanded a formal military alliance between the countries, only adding credence to the speculation.
"If India attacks Bangladesh, Pakistan will stand with Dhaka with full force... Those who control ports and seas rule the world," Pakistan Muslim League leader Kamran Saeed Usmani said. He argued that a Pakistan-Bangladesh military partnership would significantly alter regional power dynamics.
While India has not commented on the matter, it is closely monitoring the developments, IANS quoted officials as saying. If such an agreement is indeed signed, it can be a potential security challenge on the eastern front, particularly if nuclear cooperation is included.
It gels well with Pakistan's strategy of a "two-front war" against India -- combining pressure from the west and the east.
With the Awami League barred from the elections, India will be hoping that Khaleda Zia's Bangladesh National Party (BNP), which is more Delhi-friendly than the radical Jamaat-e-Islami, comes to power. In that case, the deal may be stalled, reports said. The Jamaat is known to be a stooge of Pakistan's spy agency, ISI.
It is the reason why Pakistan wants the pact to be formalised under a favourable Yunus administration, which has pushed for closer ties with Islamabad at the cost of distancing Bangladesh from India.
Source: India Today
You are right .China is talking about Sikkim Bhutan Arunachal and is not doing anything...they can't even do anything with Taiwan...and got their ass handed to them by Vietnam...it's a paper tiger who uses threat to get their way..won't work with Indians..they know they are far better off in India than be oppressed under China like the Tibetians and Uyghurs.I sometimes joke but I wasn't joking when I wrote this.
Zangnan (Arunachal Pradesh) is under the radar of China.
Amen...
Look at IMF reports and India’s economic data is least revised. You have no basis for your arguments. Bring any credible financial agency number that said India’s economic data is false??Yes. It is more like 2.5T (probably even less than that). Saw this the other day.
Indians tend to lie about their data. Their data shouldn't be believed, unless verified by third parties.
Also, Indian call center scammers and fraudsters loot Billions yearly. If you deduct that, their GDP is even lower.
Lol. That Akhand Bharat thing is a bookish fantasy. No one wants that. Just some extreme keyboard warriors doing their thing.Maps like this, the Akhand Bharat map etc get me puzzled. What do you propose to do with all of the 100s of Millions of Hindus in the former Indian lands that Bangladesh will supposedly occupy in this instance? Will they be killed? Chased away? Converted? How does this fantasy work in terms of briding some of it with reality?
Same question for the Indians touting the Akhand Bharat fantasy - what will you do with the close to 1 Billion muslims in these lands especially when Hinduism does not have an organized proselytizing+conversion like Islam does?
Are both these plans and people who purport these just plain stupid or is there some method to this fantasy madness?
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North Easterners have far more patriotism than an average woke person from a metro city. We have quite a few from NE states in our college and I can assure you they will never chose anything other than India.You are right .China is talking about Sikkim Bhutan Arunachal and is not doing anything...they can't even do anything with Taiwan...and got their ass handed to them by Vietnam...it's a paper tiger who uses threat to get their way..won't work with Indians..they know they are far better off in India than be oppressed under China like the Tibetians and Uyghurs.
When you grow, you will always be alone because thats the nature of the path. Chinese grew rapidly between 1985-2015 but the West realized that and ‘China+1’ strategy has been the hot topic in supply-chain aspect of every industry, yet they are pushing through even though they are alone. They throw biscuits to smaller nations every now and then but they tread alone on their path. Same with Russia.Bangladesh, Pakistan, and China are on the same page when it comes to India.
Even Maldives, Nepal, and Sri Lanka have issues with India.
India have become pretty isolated in the region thanks to the ret*rded sanghis.![]()
Indian terrorist’s attack in Bondi beach was condemnable. But is the whole world up in arms? Not really. I have seen people seeing it with doubt and suspicion of a false flag. Delhi bomb blast, not a single hoot or flying eff given outside saffron circles. Also, another attack by indian terrorists.You live in your own deluded world...LOL. The entire world is speaking one thing and unanimously condemning Bondi Beach, Manchester Synagogue, Delhi blast but you seem to be complefely alien from those. If is a fact that Indians in UK are most well do to immigrants only second to white English and Pakistanis/Bangladeshis lowest in that group. This is not hearsay but info from home office.
India is not against any Abrahamic faith. These dramebaazis used to work pre 2014 but not any longer. When Delhi doctors bomb blast the city recently, were they Hindus attacking innocent people from Abrahamic faith? When that innocent Hindu guy is burnt alive in Bangladesh, who was attacking whom?
Stop this drama man. Indian minorities, both muslims and christians are flourishing in India across all fields - films, sports, politics etc. How many minority cricket players played cricket for Pakistan? Ever questioned that?
There was an entire thread about muslim facing issues in India where Indian muslim posters themselves denied the claim made by Pakistani OP. When shall we get opportunity to ask a Pakistani Hindu poster here what he faces in his country? How come we dont see anyone here?
It is hilarious...how much under the rock you guys live.
Indian terrorist’s attack in Bondi beach was condemnable. But is the whole world up in arms? Not really. I have seen people seeing it with doubt and suspicion of a false flag. Delhi bomb blast, not a single hoot or flying eff given outside saffron circles. Also, another attack by indian terrorists.
On what metric you are better than other minorities in UK? Please dont tell me you are going to bring up money again. Embarrasing. Baniya mentality. You guys are such soul-less nerds always talking about money when being pointed out again and again by not me but your white masters on social media platforms that they believe that you make money through scamming and cheating the system. Quoting me “home office” and thats why people like Vivek Ramswamy are clowned and brutally hated on while people like Mamdani who have a soul are not hated the same way. Zero personality, and small D energy syndrome is common in Indians.
You are against Abrahamic faiths, otherwise why are you crying about Mughals all the time and why are you so insistent in renaming places to Hindu names? You have cow protection groups or more like cow rakshak terrorists who hunt trucks and lynch people. Same way you call christian converts as “rice bags” and lynch them as well for eating meat. I have already condemed Bangladesh attack and called those people animals. So dont even think of gaslighting anyone here.
Indian minorities are flourishing in what? You have indian minorties not being able to buy land or house in hindu majority colonies, literal ghettofication. I know very much in detail about your society thanks to my exposure to the filth through social media and in person convos. Punjabis are running away from punjab, with village after village getting empty. Systemic allowance of drug abuse in punjab so that their youth goes in waste.
Pakistan’s minorities are mostly from the province of Sindh which is not known for producing sportsmen. Nice try. And Pakistan’s population is incomparable to Indian population. You have more indian muslims than Pakistanis yet we barely hear indian muslim perspective on interwebs. Should i question that as well? Maybe open another account larping as an indian muslim.


Let's take one by one...India Paksitan is not the issue...issue is sharia Islam promotes jehadis and brings disrepute to Islam. Which Indian is celebrating these scums...we want them out of our society. India does not promote support or protect terrorist...that is outsourced to our partition brothers. We are ashamed of these guys.Indian terrorist’s attack in Bondi beach was condemnable. But is the whole world up in arms? Not really. I have seen people seeing it with doubt and suspicion of a false flag. Delhi bomb blast, not a single hoot or flying eff given outside saffron circles. Also, another attack by indian terrorists.
On what metric you are better than other minorities in UK? Please dont tell me you are going to bring up money again. Embarrasing. Baniya mentality. You guys are such soul-less nerds always talking about money when being pointed out again and again by not me but your white masters on social media platforms that they believe that you make money through scamming and cheating the system. Quoting me “home office” and thats why people like Vivek Ramswamy are clowned and brutally hated on while people like Mamdani who have a soul are not hated the same way. Zero personality, and small D energy syndrome is common in Indians.
You are against Abrahamic faiths, otherwise why are you crying about Mughals all the time and why are you so insistent in renaming places to Hindu names? You have cow protection groups or more like cow rakshak terrorists who hunt trucks and lynch people. Same way you call christian converts as “rice bags” and lynch them as well for eating meat. I have already condemed Bangladesh attack and called those people animals. So dont even think of gaslighting anyone here.
Indian minorities are flourishing in what? You have indian minorties not being able to buy land or house in hindu majority colonies, literal ghettofication. I know very much in detail about your society thanks to my exposure to the filth through social media and in person convos. Punjabis are running away from punjab, with village after village getting empty. Systemic allowance of drug abuse in punjab so that their youth goes in waste.
Pakistan’s minorities are mostly from the province of Sindh which is not known for producing sportsmen. Nice try. And Pakistan’s population is incomparable to Indian population. You have more indian muslims than Pakistanis yet we barely hear indian muslim perspective on interwebs. Should i question that as well? Maybe open another account larping as an indian muslim.
India can never invade Bangladesh as they fear its allies more than BD itself....but in the long run BD need to work on propping up a strong army
Agree.
India is unlikely to start any conflict anytime soon with anyone. These are the reasons:
1) They have no military ally. Even Russia just wants to sell their oil/weapons to India. Russia is not a military ally of India. Russia is allied with China. So, India is pretty isolated militarily.
2) India does not get backed by west like Israel do. India is pretty irrelevant. West simply uses India for their own benefits. Nothing more. So, India can experience a massive PR disaster and possibly sanctions too if they get adventerous in Bangladesh.
3) India is surrounded by multiple hostile states --> Pakistan, China, Bangladesh, Maldives. Even SL and Nepal have had issues with India.
4) There are Chinese projects in Bangladesh. China have invested Billions in Bangladesh. I don't think China will allow India to interfere with their projects. India do not have the gut to take on China.
5) Indian military is massively overhyped and not very battle-ready as we saw in recent conflicts.
6) Their recent Operation Tandoor was a massive disaster. They lost 6-7 jets and lost soldiers too. It was so bad they had to beg to America for intervention. They seemed psychologically traumatized from that.

Here we go again.Agree.
India is unlikely to start any conflict anytime soon with anyone. These are the reasons:
1) They have no military ally. Even Russia just wants to sell their oil/weapons to India. Russia is not a military ally of India. Russia is allied with China. So, India is pretty isolated militarily.
2) India does not get backed by west like Israel do. India is pretty irrelevant. West simply uses India for their own benefits. Nothing more. So, India can experience a massive PR disaster and possibly sanctions too if they get adventerous in Bangladesh.
3) India is surrounded by multiple hostile states --> Pakistan, China, Bangladesh, Maldives. Even SL and Nepal have had issues with India.
4) There are Chinese projects in Bangladesh. China have invested Billions in Bangladesh. I don't think China will allow India to interfere with their projects. India do not have the gut to take on China.
5) Indian military is massively overhyped and not very battle-ready as we saw in recent conflicts.
6) Their recent Operation Tandoor was a massive disaster. They lost 6-7 jets and lost soldiers too. It was so bad they had to beg to America for intervention. They seemed psychologically traumatized from that.
Finally although you don't realize it you admit that your army loots your country by creating a fake story of Indian aggression. India never attacks another country but always punishes a country for trying to invade India. Sometimes their own country is cut in half.. sometimes they lose a glacier and other times they run to US for ceasefire requests. Same is true for BD..Indja has zero aggressive intent in BD...but if the Jamaat and the uncouth hasnaat tries anything...they will either be handled by unknown gunmen before the event or chicken neck will be enlarged with zero qualms.India can never invade Bangladesh as they fear its allies more than BD itself....but in the long run BD need to work on propping up a strong army