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Dead pitch.

Spin on

Ball 40 overs old and doing nothing

Sun out

Perfect batting conditions
 
Yk cannot score with this technique even if u12 kids were bowling at him
 
he will score big this innings I have a feeling
 
Dead pitch.

Spin on

Ball 40 overs old and doing nothing

Sun out

Perfect batting conditions

Yah, conditions are perfect for him to score some runs.
 
Big score or not he is still doing the flamingo dance with his legs

Should audition for the future strictly come dancing
 
No. As much as I hated his dramas, I want him to complete 10k test runs for Pakistan before being dropped for good.
 
Dead pitch.

Spin on

Ball 40 overs old and doing nothing

Sun out

Perfect batting conditions


Dropping younis out before he gets 10 k will cause WW3, PCB don't have the guts to fine him , how will they have the guts to drop him ?
 
Looks like he's booked himself a ticket for Australia.

Inevitably, he'll pound a few 150s on them concrete slabs out there; some sunny days ahead for Younis!
 
Younis Khan should consider this his swansong and retire. 1 meaningful knock in 8 potential innings is hardly something to be proud of. The fact that this may secure his place in the team is all that's wrong with Pakistan cricket.
 
Younis Khan should consider this his swansong and retire. 1 meaningful knock in 8 potential innings is hardly something to be proud of. The fact that this may secure his place in the team is all that's wrong with Pakistan cricket.

If his knocks wins or draws this game for Pakistan, then he has booked his seat for Australia.
 
No way to please some people. This is no way to treat a legend. Not like that guy hasn't scored a hundred previously in England either! Fans will realise his worth when he's gone. Classy :yk
 
This is why you do not drop class players, they can show up anytime and sometimes it is a good thing that the management doesnt listen to fans.
 
He scored a hundred.....what has been up to for three matches....dancing around like a hot potato
was being thrown at him.....

Happy he scored today........but needs to be dropped for not doing it in the previous games.
Something does not seem right how all has happened.
 
He scored a hundred.....what has been up to for three matches....dancing around like a hot potato
was being thrown at him.....

Happy he scored today........but needs to be dropped for not doing it in the previous games.
Something does not seem right how all has happened.

What if he adds another hundred to his score?
 
Bumble was talking about how he adjusted his technique for this match with a graphic which showed all his dismissals because of him batting outside of the crease like he does on the halwa tracks in UAE, and can get away with going at the ball in front of him due to the dead pitches.

This game he was well within his crease, and instead of reaching out for the ball like the last 3 tests, he was letting it come to him hence why he was falling over forward less.

Only wish he made this adjustment 2 matches ago.
 
What if he adds another hundred to his score?

I hope he does but even that will not make up for the way played in previous games.
Really he is not that bad the way he danced around....in previous games and look at the way he got out.
Today for some reason maybe last chance maybe Misbah has told his players he will quit after the last game,
he is back to normal solid batting.
 
I'm not happy with his scoring 100 today. Any average FC batsman can score a ton after failing in 6 innings and now he will score some runs against the innocent WI attack on a dead wicket in UAE and we will stuck with him for some time. No more chances for some new faces to get a chance, not good.
 
Lets just hope Misbah stays until Hafeez and Younis Khan start to perform regularly...
I personally would ban them for one year....they have been underperforming again and again.......

Azhar Ali needs to be less chancy and more regular :)
 
I'm not happy with his scoring 100 today. Any average FC batsman can score a ton after failing in 6 innings and now he will score some runs against the innocent WI attack on a dead wicket in UAE and we will stuck with him for some time. No more chances for some new faces to get a chance, not good.

:))

You make it sound like that's how he's been his entire career.

The man averaged 50+ for the past seven series.
 
Younis Khan should consider this his swansong and retire. 1 meaningful knock in 8 potential innings is hardly something to be proud of. The fact that this may secure his place in the team is all that's wrong with Pakistan cricket.

Everyone has bad series.

Like I mentioned, he has averaged 50+ over the past seven series (2 years). That's a much longer period to assess how good he is.

What's longer? 7 series or 7 innings? You tell me. :)
 
Everyone has bad series.

Like I mentioned, he has averaged 50+ over the past seven series (2 years). That's a much longer period to assess how good he is.

What's longer? 7 series or 7 innings? You tell me. :)

Fair enough.

And you have to give Younis Khan credit here for scoring a great double ton. But I still think it would be best to call it a day and make way for younger talent. And this is the perfect opportunity to bow out when you're on a high. Instead he'll wait for another bad series where he doesn't get that double and is simply discarded from the team.
 
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] bhai I think YK heard you... he looks almost invincible out there
 
Relatively flat pitch

2 spinners

Suns out

If younis has any ability left then this is the day to make it count
 
Dead pitch.

Spin on

Ball 40 overs old and doing nothing

Sun out

Perfect batting conditions
He has failed in 13/15 innings outside Asia since July.

If he cashes in on this batsman's paradise does that make up for the five Tests lost in which he failed?
 
He has failed in 13/15 innings outside Asia since July.

If he cashes in on this batsman's paradise does that make up for the five Tests lost in which he failed?

It's not a case of cashing in because the last match was also a batting paradise.

It doesn't make up for anything
 
Ominous signs so far and Australia playing right into his hands picking two spinners and a trundler. This is even better than the Oval where he only had Moeen to kickstart his innings.
 
Stage is set for him to score a dead rubber hundred and his fans to come out of their caves and hail this ATG with centuries in all countries.

Flat pitch, sunshine, two spinners and a trundler. Doesn't get more comfortable than that for a player like him.
 
Stage is set for him to score a dead rubber hundred and his fans to come out of their caves and hail this ATG with centuries in all countries.

Flat pitch, sunshine, two spinners and a trundler. Doesn't get more comfortable than that for a player like him.

Younis is an ATG whether you like it or not and would have stayed an ATG albeit a lower tier even if he had scored a pair here.Not many sub cont batsman succeed away from Asia past the age of 35 judging YK on these twin tours is harsh. All this tour has done is give confirmation he is not our best ever test match batsman Miandad it is.
 
Stage is set for him to score a dead rubber hundred and his fans to come out of their caves and hail this ATG with centuries in all countries.

Flat pitch, sunshine, two spinners and a trundler. Doesn't get more comfortable than that for a player like him.

Couldn't have said this better myself. Expected him to perform in the dead rubber, as long as his fans have something to boast about.
 
Couldn't have said this better myself. Expected him to perform in the dead rubber, as long as his fans have something to boast about.

YK has been anything but a dead rubber man if condition are in his comfort zone he will always get you clutch runs.
 
ATG.

Scoring runs in Australia and England even though he's clearly past his prime at the age of 40+

Imagine how many he'd have scored if he got a chance to play here at his peak. [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]
 
Stage is set for him to score a dead rubber hundred and his fans to come out of their caves and hail this ATG with centuries in all countries.

Flat pitch, sunshine, two spinners and a trundler. Doesn't get more comfortable than that for a player like him.

Younis Khan is an ATG whether you like it or not and regardless of what happens in his last 7-8 innings

Also if he does score a century then yes he will be felicitated rightly. Scoring a century in every country is a great, great achievement and its not like others didn't get multiple cracks at it
 
Younis Khan is an ATG whether you like it or not and regardless of what happens in his last 7-8 innings

Also if he does score a century then yes he will be felicitated rightly. Scoring a century in every country is a great, great achievement and its not like others didn't get multiple cracks at it

If Younis Khan is an ATG than surely Mahela Jayawardene who averages almost 50 is also an ATG with an average of 49.84 and 34 100s.
 
He could get to his 10k runs in this innings and then retire
 
Younis Khan has become the batting equivalent of afridi in tests. Performs once every 6-8 innings
 
Hope he scores a 200 tomorrow and retire after that. 200 and 10000 , the best time to retire.
 
Younis is an ATG whether you like it or not and would have stayed an ATG albeit a lower tier even if he had scored a pair here.Not many sub cont batsman succeed away from Asia past the age of 35 judging YK on these twin tours is harsh. All this tour has done is give confirmation he is not our best ever test match batsman Miandad it is.

Younis Khan is an ATG whether you like it or not and regardless of what happens in his last 7-8 innings

Also if he does score a century then yes he will be felicitated rightly. Scoring a century in every country is a great, great achievement and its not like others didn't get multiple cracks at it

He isn't. He is only a Pakistan batting great. Miandad is the only batting ATG Pakistan has produced. Younis isn't Pakistan's second best Test batsman either, Anwar was better than him and although I don't agree with it, I can accept why some people might consider him better than Inzamam and MoYo in Tests. When it comes to overall batsmanship, he is not even in the top 5 produced by Pakistan.
 
yes Mahela is an ATG

I think you are confusing the term "All Time Great" to just a "brilliant to good batsmen of the game".

Going by your definition even Matthew Hayden is an ATG because he averages 50 and has scored 30 100s in the game with 8500+ runs.
 
People are much harsher on YK than on other batsmen.

He has had a bad tour, but he's not been our worst batsman by a long way. Younger guys have, along with the captain. And if he can play a good knock here to help save the test, he should get credit for that.
 
He should retire regardless of his performance in this match.But I fear he'll stick around till the WI tour
 
If Younis Khan is an ATG than surely Mahela Jayawardene who averages almost 50 is also an ATG with an average of 49.84 and 34 100s.

No

There is no comparison

Maehla Jayawardene averaged 35 or under in SA, Australia, NZ and England. And UAE as well but that maybe you can take as an anomaly as he had ability to play there

But Im sorry. There is no comparison b/w Mahela and YK

YK is an ATG
 
He isn't. He is only a Pakistan batting great. Miandad is the only batting ATG Pakistan has produced. Younis isn't Pakistan's second best Test batsman either, Anwar was better than him and although I don't agree with it, I can accept why some people might consider him better than Inzamam and MoYo in Tests. When it comes to overall batsmanship, he is not even in the top 5 produced by Pakistan.

YK is an ATG

He is up there in every aspect be it scoring runs in different countries, peak returns, chases etc.

The only major aspects he loses points is in style of batsmanship and aesthetics which is why he is lower than other ATGs
 
YK is an ATG

He is up there in every aspect be it scoring runs in different countries, peak returns, chases etc.

The only major aspects he loses points is in style of batsmanship and aesthetics which is why he is lower than other ATGs

A good measure of ATGness is how you are remembered as a player after your retirement.

Apart from Pakistani fans, I don't think anyone will talk about Younis after 10-15 years. He hasn't enjoyed that status in his career, and the major reason - apart from poor style and approach - has been his insignificant performance overseas in terms of helping Pakistan win any major series. For a player who is a Test cricketer only, it is a very vital metric which he has failed to achieve. England last summer was his best chance.

At times that isn't enough either. For most people Amla and Cook aren't ATGs either, although Cook is for me.
 
none of match is dead rubber, ever match is played to win.
1-2, 0-2 always looks better than 0-3

crazy to say match is dead rubber, specially the one in England.

why our fans always downplay our own's achievements ? and overhype everyone else?
look at david warner, 14 of his 18 centuries are at home. wahts wrong when our players scored when they are in their comfort zone? had avg of 27 in SL recently but still labelled best opener in world.
 
Younis is no ATG. He has missed his shot at that status. Needed to be consistent in three overseas tours.

However he is no FTB either. A damn good player by our standards.
 
I believed YK will score runs compared to MISBAH and he has done that in the past too.. YK's technique is different from MISBAH and also has more experience than MISBAH....I did hope YK to score runs and a same 200 like he did in ENGLAND, Once MISBAH retires PCB should honour YK with captaincy for tests until he retire.. It is very obvious neither PCB can force him to retire nor he will quit looking at his poor performances... I believe Azhar the future test captain can learn a lot from YK captaincy,,, YK and Butt was touted as a future captains by Woolmer...
 
I am surprised that Zaheer Abbas does not figure in the top 5 batsmen from Pak. I would rate him as good as Inzi or Younis. He was a very good ODI player too. Any comments what Pak fans think about Zaheer Abbas.
 
Hahahaha what?

A fifty in a dead rubber and he is an ATG?

He can score a 200 in this match but should still be remembered as a failure in the series when Pakistan needed him the most.
 
ideally this should be his and misbahs last test match.

I want pcb to give chances to the replcements in the next few relatively easier series against westindies , zimbabwe and srilanka. There is no point hanging around with these two against them. We will have two test matches against england in england and by that time the new guys should have 10-15 test matches under their belt.
 
Younis is such a troll.. will score in the last game making him impossible to drop for the next series
 
I am surprised that Zaheer Abbas does not figure in the top 5 batsmen from Pak. I would rate him as good as Inzi or Younis. He was a very good ODI player too. Any comments what Pak fans think about Zaheer Abbas.

Zaheer Abbas was excellent against spin but not as good against pace and short deliveries.

Was ahead of his time in ODIs, he batted at a modern SR.
 
Ultimate troll. Ideally, he should bow out regardless after this series. One reckons that he won't be going anywhere till he crosses ten thousand test runs.
 
ATG.

Scoring runs in Australia and England even though he's clearly past his prime at the age of 40+

Imagine how many he'd have scored if he got a chance to play here at his peak. [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]

Exactly but the bigotry of some degenerate fans is endless with their disrespect, they are the justin bieber of cricket fans; woke up in the modern era think the likes of Virat Kohli are ATG's :))) and that Khan can only score runs on flat decks when they fail to acknowledge what he has acomplished throughout his career across all conditions. Now Khan lacks consistency but it's only because he has been past his prime, past the age of 35 cricket stars decline but this legend past that age has managed to remain world class I am frightened to think of the genius Khan would have been capable of had he toured these places at his peak he'd have broken every record imaginable.
 
Surprised when I woke up and saw the score. Expected Pak to be 3 or 4 down. YK looks intent on steadying the ship.
 
Ah the typical Yuni bhai century in a dead rubber coming up. Always shows up when his career is about to be ended.


What a legend this guy. Can score whenever he desires. Truly an ATG.
 
Exactly but the bigotry of some degenerate fans is endless with their disrespect, they are the justin bieber of cricket fans; woke up in the modern era think the likes of Virat Kohli are ATG's :))) and that Khan can only score runs on flat decks when they fail to acknowledge what he has acomplished throughout his career across all conditions. Now Khan lacks consistency but it's only because he has been past his prime, past the age of 35 cricket stars decline but this legend past that age has managed to remain world class I am frightened to think of the genius Khan would have been capable of had he toured these places at his peak he'd have broken every record imaginable.

Exactly, look at what's happened to Amla and he's only 33. Khan, despite being horribly out of form and way past him prime, has still managed to average in the 40s in this series.

Some of these so called "fans" would like to stigmatize and devalue all performances of his entire career just because he couldn't make an impact in one series in the twilight of his career when he's clearly past his prime.
 
Ah the typical Yuni bhai century in a dead rubber coming up. Always shows up when his career is about to be ended.


What a legend this guy. Can score whenever he desires. Truly an ATG.

So the oval one is dead rubber?
 
Exactly, look at what's happened to Amla and he's only 33. Khan, despite being horribly out of form and way past him prime, has still managed to average in the 40s in this series.

Some of these so called "fans" would like to stigmatize and devalue all performances of his entire career just because he couldn't make an impact in one series in the twilight of his career when he's clearly past his prime.

I totally agree with that, it's a reason which is so easily overlooked because it contradicts their narrow minded opinions. At least [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] is consistent , he has repeatedly advocated that he doesn't want him in the team because he understands that Khan is past his prime but never does he derail what a great bat he use to be I just disagree with him in that Khan still warrants a place in the side during these away tours. But I believe Khan has scored more runs then Babar? one of the players Junaids wanted Khan to replace. Anyway, others in general like to suck up to certain posters or just don't know much about cricket hence their delusional ways
 
I totally agree with that, it's a reason which is so easily overlooked because it contradicts their narrow minded opinions. At least [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] is consistent , he has repeatedly advocated that he doesn't want him in the team because he understands that Khan is past his prime but never does he derail what a great bat he use to be I just disagree with him in that Khan still warrants a place in the side during these away tours. But I believe Khan has scored more runs then Babar? one of the players Junaids wanted Khan to replace. Anyway, others in general like to suck up to certain posters or just don't know much about cricket hence their delusional ways

Yeah, Babar is averaging 11 in this series while Khan's average is 43.
 
It seems like people have different definitions for levels of greatness, which is causing confusion.

Pakistan have won 12 test matches in Australia, England, New Zealand, South Africa and West Indies since YK made his debut. Younis wasn't selected for five of them. Out of the remaining 7, YK made a significant contribution in 5 of those.
 
It seems like people have different definitions for levels of greatness, which is causing confusion.

Pakistan have won 12 test matches in Australia, England, New Zealand, South Africa and West Indies since YK made his debut. Younis wasn't selected for five of them. Out of the remaining 7, YK made a significant contribution in 5 of those.

Ha! so much for 'UAE Khan' [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

Am struggling to dissect the reasoning behind the logic of some posters, it's like once they give into a specific line of thinking there is no turning back. Bit like the fans who still criticise Roman Reigns and John Cena just for the sake of it
 
Ha! so much for 'UAE Khan' [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

Am struggling to dissect the reasoning behind the logic of some posters, it's like once they give into a specific line of thinking there is no turning back. Bit like the fans who still criticise Roman Reigns and John Cena just for the sake of it

1. 2001 Vs New Zealand at Auckland - 91 & 149*
2. 2001 Vs England at Old Trafford - 65 & 17
3. 2005 Vs West Indies at Kingston - 106 & 43
4. 2007 Vs South Africa at Port Elizabeth 45 & 67*
5. 2016 Vs England at Oval - 218
 
Im surprised no one mentioned this. YK's record in the 4th innning makes him an ATG. thats when batting is the hardest and pressure is the greatest, no matter the conditions.

also, can we have a list of 10 ATG's so we know the comparisons....
 
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